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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: Rolex Prices Tanking
« Last post by Petai300 on April 14, 2021, 11:12:17 PM »
HG need to spend 130k minimum for them to put you into ‘waiting lists’ for sp model.

Strangely, new buyer still hoping for a rrp sport model?

If no AD history, just go get from grey..

Just curious, have you or any other member here speak with their ADs directly about the "Spend History" or "Bundling" in order to get in the waitlist for the watch you want?

I purchase from grey and that's only because the ADs never have the models I want, and never gave me a guarantee that if I were to spend xxx amount of money or say bundle with xxx models, then I will guarantee to have the piece I want in an estimated time frame.

I spoke with a SA at Pavillion before and I was being very upfront about it and asked him "Do you accept bundling? I am willing to buy certain less desirable pieces as a gift to my parents/gf in order to get on the list for xxx reference." The guy straight up just said no they do not condone this type of practice. So that really leaves me no choice but to go grey re... maybe I looked like a flipper? I was being very sincere...

If an AD tells me "Look, if you are willing to buy xxx + xxx then we will make sure you get the reference you want in xxx months" then I wouldn't have gone grey at all.

I guess the way you bring the question up in such a manner makes them think that you are probably just one of those customers send in by grey dealers to make bundle deals for a highly desirable piece and that's why they will tell you upfront that they don't condone such practice.

The grey dealers have their network of "customers" that walks into the shop and build their purchase history with them by just pretending to buy up some other branded watches with the intention to pop a question on a desirable Rolex piece sometime later and hoping to get them to be approved by the AD manager.

Have you ever wonder why there are so many brand new / unworn other branded watches offered at a good discount by grey dealers? The discount is even better than what AD can offer and some of them will openly tell you if you want this piece deposit with them and they will so call pre-order it, their pre-order is basically sending a "customer" to walk into AD and get this piece building profile, because if they manage to hit a Rolex piece, the profit easily cover whatever the loss they made from selling other branded watches to another customer at loss.

And I would definitely think some AD might have insiders who work with grey dealers to help them to swallow up some unwanted stocks and hence explains why each time a Rolex shipment arrives, the grey dealers are the first ones who happily blasting out all these brand new stocks with ridiculous pricing.

Just a tip, if you willing to spend on other pieces just spend on the other pieces first with the AD, don’t ask them to guarantee you with black and white on your rolex purchase because that will never work, the sales person has no authority to guarantee you any piece unless you are speaking to the one who is approving who the watch will sell to.
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Members' Pre-Owned Watches / Re: Hublot Classic Fusion 45mm
« Last post by farhanbh100 on April 14, 2021, 08:18:31 PM »
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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: OMEGA Seamaster 300m or Tudor Black Bay?
« Last post by zoltan on April 14, 2021, 06:12:54 PM »
I owned 3 Stainless Steel watches, 3 G Shock & 1 Nylon Strap watches.
The next target would preferred leather/rubber strap watches.
Please give some advice, thank you

Between Omega and Tudor is indeed a hard choice, but it goes back to what are you looking for in a watch?
A. Design? For me, and again, its my own opinion but I don't really fancy the Omega Seamaster design as the helium escape value looks like another crown, versus the Tudor. Kinda breaks the symmetry with a additional crown jutting out.
B. Resell value? Generally, Omega suffers a huge cut when compared to Tudor?
C. Power reserve? I would choose Tudor as it offers 72Hours when compared to Omega 55 Hours. Longer power reserve is helpful for an automatic watch
D. Brand? Totally subjective as some prefer Omega and some prefer Tudor (poor man Rolex)
E. Warranty? I think they are the same now? As both Omega and Tudor offers 5 year
F. Materials used? I think Omega uses more fancy materials when comparing to Tudor. Tudor only has titanium in the Pelagos but the Omega has Sedna gold

I appreciated for your meticulous analysis, i actually had something in my mind, i just want to get more opinion from watch collectors. i found myself lack of the love to Pelagos, despite its made of titanium. Instead i was consider about Black Bay 36/41mm

And the Seamaster 300m, i like the design even its with the escape valve. The black dial had a busy face, might be my own problem because i cant read the time well every single time i look at it.

By the way, i like the IWC Top Gun you wrote in your blog. :)


Thanks for the kind words. Its my first blog ever, so thanks! There will be a part 2 of the IWC! Coming soon.. :) And also I will be doing a review on the tudor pelagos.
That’s nice! I’m really rooting for this Pelagos. Looking forward for your entry.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just posted my review on the Tudor Pelagos but its the LHD version. :P

Good review
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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: Watch Protective Films
« Last post by dpkong on April 14, 2021, 05:38:35 PM »
Personal advise, worthy to apply for expensive watch.

What's the point? If you look at watches with stickers on, it looks really tacky and spoils the original shine.

Also, the stickers don't cover the edges which are really the places that takes the knocks and dings.

And RM800++ for a few pieces of plastic?? And we thought grey dealers were fleecing buyers....

 :Laughing_on_floor:
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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: Rolex Prices Tanking
« Last post by dpkong on April 14, 2021, 05:34:49 PM »
What to do? It’s getting more and more reseller stores open...

They ‘sapu’ all the stock from AD..., there is really nothing left for fans nowadays...

So long as there are people buying new watches from grey dealers, the price will only keep going up...
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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: Rolex Prices Tanking
« Last post by Gentlemen101 on April 14, 2021, 03:50:37 PM »
What to do? It’s getting more and more reseller stores open...

They ‘sapu’ all the stock from AD..., there is really nothing left for fans nowadays...
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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: Watch Protective Films
« Last post by Horotime on April 14, 2021, 03:44:37 PM »
Every scratch has a story, ends up with a good patina which you can erase every time you decide to go for a service and give it a good renewed life
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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: Rolex Prices Tanking
« Last post by Horotime on April 14, 2021, 03:40:34 PM »
Well, even DJ are rare pieces in store nowadays.
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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: Is it safe? Carousell seller
« Last post by zoltan on April 14, 2021, 02:59:35 PM »
Maybe some try low ball then resell with higher value.
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General Discussion - Modern Watches / Re: Servicing a 7750 movement
« Last post by zoltan on April 14, 2021, 02:57:50 PM »
Services my 7750 before. Cost around 900++
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