Author Topic: Omega Moonwatch or Tudor Black Bay Black? (Read 20036 times)

nikfs1881 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 21, 2015, 04:09:24 PM »

Quote from: Everdying on October 21, 2015, 09:07:05 AM

Quote from: Calibr on October 21, 2015, 09:04:00 AM
Quote from: Everdying on October 21, 2015, 08:00:19 AM
"the only thing worse than a fake rolex, is a real one" - Jeremy Clarkson

Why attribute a quote on Rolex by someone whose specialty was to write and speak about cars, and who had been described with an apparent violent and questionable sexual behaviour according to Wikipedia, adding that he "was suspended by the BBC from Top Gear following a "fracas" with one of the show's producers" early this year..

In the same page in Wikipedia, it was also stated "In April 2007, he was criticised in the Malaysian parliament for having described one of their cars, the Perodua Kelisa, as the worst in the world, "its name was like a disease and suggested it was built in jungles by people who wear leaves for shoes".

Haha.. so now we know!

no need to be so hypocritical.
a lot of malaysians are also critical of malaysian cars.
its only when malaysians go overseas, that they start being defensive even over the crappiest of crap malaysian products.

Totally agree! He has no credibility to talk about watches! The only person that can talk about both cars and watches is in this very forum, our one and only @r3kahsstub

Jeremy is a lot of things .....but him talking about watches is akin to Paultan talking about handbags! Lol.... And what he said about Rolex just proved just that!

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D'Andy · « **Reply #26 on:** October 21, 2015, 05:09:34 PM »

I think both are

and could co-exist in one's collection. Having owned the Burgundy BB, I could say with conviction that the BB was a great watch and really under-rated. The brand is giving you lots of "watch" for the monies that you paid. I am waiting for the Black BB to hit the showroom, where I believed that I may be swayed to own the BB again. Having said that, the Moonwatch is a very handsome vintage piece- what with its hand-winding movement and hesalite crystal. I am also looking for a good piece myself; and at the right price and condition, I would part monies for this historical piece. Either way, you won't go wrong with either pieces...

jacky8888 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 22, 2015, 08:21:51 AM »

agreed ... preowned Exp II.... anytime

r3kahsttub · « **Reply #28 on:** October 22, 2015, 02:09:14 PM »

Bro @nikfs1881, don't say like that bro. I am jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none.

Price aside, if I had to pick between the two, I would have gone for the speedy pro. However, given that a brand new speedy pro costs in the region of RM19k and the BB retails for under RM13k, I would sway towards the BB as it is the much more affordable of the two.

Btw, BB black is already available in most ADs:

G.MAC · « **Reply #29 on:** October 22, 2015, 02:31:11 PM »

Very very nice. Have not seen one in the flesh.

D'Andy · « **Reply #30 on:** October 22, 2015, 04:12:45 PM »

She's a beauty alright...

maxbill · « **Reply #31 on:** October 22, 2015, 04:39:26 PM »

If you have already owned GMT Master, think u can skip the Tudor BB la....Speedmaster will offer you a different flavour...

diazepam · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2015, 02:50:34 PM »

I just tried on a BB Black. No chemistry with me once I see it on my wrist. Even though it's 41mm, it somehow looks oversized on my wrist.

roystock · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2015, 06:39:37 PM »

I just saw one in mid valley and also, no click.
Perhaps you should also display the nato version.
The stainless steel BBB feel a little cold, doesn't really jive with the warm / vintage feel dial

diazepam · « **Reply #34 on:** October 24, 2015, 07:04:12 PM »

I also checked out the Speedmaster Pro at the Omega boutique. Comes with the case including 3 different straps. Very tempting. If it was in the old 38mm, I would've bought it already. Too bad (or should it be - luckily) they no longer come in 38mm. The salesperson said there was a 'midsize' version, though he's not sure if they still stock it - and he was so hesitant to check for me, I was like nevermind la - you just missed out on a sale.

Someone, please post up a pre-loved SMP for sale.

farhanbh100 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 25, 2015, 03:31:58 PM »

rest assured u wont rest eazy till u acquired both

MRH · « **Reply #36 on:** October 25, 2015, 03:47:38 PM »

To say that Omega is a Rolex wanna-be is just plain brand snobbery. Both are good brands from different companies. Rolex was 007 watch of choice and now its the Omega.

Guess the main question is, what functions do you prefer? The chrono or the 200m underwater usability. Both are desirable watches with different capabilities and at 2 different price points so you have to decide yourself, which one "talks" to you better.

For me, the speedy rocks!

antoniosaprozeld · « **Reply #37 on:** October 25, 2015, 04:01:16 PM »

I've read that at one point in time, samsung sees itself as a sony wannabe.. continuously positions itself to compete w sony.. & now, many years on, one can say that they are good brands from different companies.. competing at equal level..

& so i say omega wants to be a rolex competitor.. are they there yet? Definitely not.. rolex still is by far the brand of choice in malaysia.. maybe one day tiger woods would choose omega over rolex..

If not for brand snobbery, we'd all be wearing seiki 5s

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antoniosaprozeld · « **Reply #38 on:** October 25, 2015, 05:17:24 PM »

But that said, lets bring the discussion back to the topic which is, moonwatch or the black bay..

Definitely moonwatch on the historical 861 or 863 or the 1861/1863 calibers.. tho i dont understand why those are at 2 years warranty instead of the normal 4 years warranty..

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roystock · « **Reply #39 on:** October 25, 2015, 05:53:40 PM »

To me, Rolex or omega for 007 simple doesn't matter. The 007 endorsement, if anything, cheapened the watch.
I admire real people in the real world and not some fictional character (I do watch Bond though, but I am not an 007 wannabe). And which brand 007 choose, is simply a function of which brand paid the producer more.
Btw, in Ian Fleming's book, 007 wears Rolex Explorer, and I supposed Rolex didn't pay him for endorsement.

Back to the topic, I do dig the moon watch story because it is real tool used by real people in mission that is really important.
Also, omega paid NASA nothing. They just produced a better watch (back then).

That said, if you pitch Omega vs Rolex, I will pick Rolex anyday.
I like their stubbornness in making good better. Their engineering, material, precision is simply very good.
And I also like the fact that they just do what they did, do not pay too much attention to fashion.
Rolex Submariner looks the same for the untrained eye - from 1950-2015.

Omega Seamaster series? I lost count of how many different varieties out there when it come to size, colour, and the dial itself.
The first DOTM was great. Second was OK. But now, I cant recall how many was launched earlier this year? 3/4 different colour?

nikfs1881 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 25, 2015, 08:17:22 PM »

Quote from: roystock on October 25, 2015, 05:53:40 PM

To me, Rolex or omega for 007 simple doesn't matter. The 007 endorsement, if anything, cheapened the watch.
I admire real people in the real world and not some fictional character (I do watch Bond though, but I am not an 007 wannabe). And which brand 007 choose, is simply a function of which brand paid the producer more.
Btw, in Ian Fleming's book, 007 wears Rolex Explorer, and I supposed Rolex didn't pay him for endorsement.

Back to the topic, I do dig the moon watch story because it is real tool used by real people in mission that is really important.
Also, omega paid NASA nothing. They just produced a better watch (back then).

That said, if you pitch Omega vs Rolex, I will pick Rolex anyday.
I like their stubbornness in making good better. Their engineering, material, precision is simply very good.
And I also like the fact that they just do what they did, do not pay too much attention to fashion.
Rolex Submariner looks the same for the untrained eye - from 1950-2015.

Omega Seamaster series? I lost count of how many different varieties out there when it come to size, colour, and the dial itself.
The first DOTM was great. Second was OK. But now, I cant recall how many was launched earlier this year? 3/4 different colour?

Fully agree with Antonio and roystock! I couldn't have said any better.....

Back to the topic: to reiterate: Tudor BB and Moonwatch, of course moonwatch hands down!

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roystock · « **Reply #41 on:** October 25, 2015, 08:44:46 PM »

Hi OP,

I believe most of us are referring to the Moon watch @ 42mm, full size.
I saw from your latest reply that you are actually looking for a Reduced (38mm)?
There are some differences between the moon watch (42mm) vs the Reduced (38mm). You can see the link here
http://www.fratellowatches.com/speedy-tuesday-speedmaster-reduced-versus-speedmaster-professional-moonwatch/

In the preowned market, the reduce is considerably cheaper.

And if you were to repost this question, Speedy Reduced vs Tudor Black Black Bay. The answer, I believe, will be slightly different.

antoniosaprozeld · « **Reply #42 on:** October 25, 2015, 09:11:15 PM »

Good ref roy

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diazepam · « **Reply #43 on:** October 26, 2015, 10:07:47 AM »

Quote from: roystock on October 25, 2015, 08:44:46 PM

Hi OP,

I believe most of us are referring to the Moon watch @ 42mm, full size.
I saw from your latest reply that you are actually looking for a Reduced (38mm)?
There are some differences between the moon watch (42mm) vs the Reduced (38mm). You can see the link here
http://www.fratellowatches.com/speedy-tuesday-speedmaster-reduced-versus-speedmaster-professional-moonwatch/

In the preowned market, the reduce is considerably cheaper.

And if you were to repost this question, Speedy Reduced vs Tudor Black Black Bay. The answer, I believe, will be slightly different.

Hi Roy,

Thanks very much for the link and the info contained therein.

I think I must have been mistaken then. I always thought that the moonwatch came in two different sizes for men - a full-sized version and a mid-size or 'boy-size' of 38mm. And I had thought that they have since stopped releasing it in the 38mm size, retaining only the 42mm.

I see now that this is incorrect, though interestingly enough, there were 2 speedmasters at the AD - the hand-wound moonwatch, and a speedmaster coaxial. Anyways, I think I'll have to try on the 42mm and reassess if its too big for my wrist.

r3kahsttub · « **Reply #44 on:** October 26, 2015, 10:30:48 AM »

Good catch, roy.

Yes, they still make the smaller speedy (speedy reduced, speedy triple date), but just FYI, I have some friends with pretty small wrists, and still manage to pull off the speedy pro. But yes, best to try it on before you decide on one. And should you decide that a speedy is really what you want... then you can do no wrong with the (larger) speedy pro!

kingpin · « **Reply #45 on:** October 26, 2015, 01:28:37 PM »

2 different style of watch... I will go for Moonwatch.. Again, for me always go for the feeling. How you feel when the watch is on your hand. Have fun while your are hunting.

antoniosaprozeld · « **Reply #46 on:** October 26, 2015, 05:37:41 PM »

Yeah.. smp moonwatch is the way.. dont go halfway.. got extra buck then go for dotm or gotm

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alphaz · « **Reply #47 on:** October 27, 2015, 05:58:04 AM »

I'm a chrono guy so moonwatch for me!

axaxax · « **Reply #48 on:** October 27, 2015, 07:13:50 PM »

You can look at it from different angle.

Some would recommend you based on your current collection setup.

Alternately. If ur looking for a daily beater. Both qualifies. If you want something low key, you should go for the moonwatch. If you want tool watch that people will notice, then you should get a BB.

Also worth to note that to me, BB is a halfway house to a Sub.

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Timeless · « **Reply #49 on:** October 27, 2015, 10:18:55 PM »

Black bay to me, less is more

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Author Topic: Omega Moonwatch or Tudor Black Bay Black? (Read 20036 times)