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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: G.MAC on August 20, 2011, 03:46:45 PM
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Another time for sharing. I'd like to advise newbies to the watch collecting scene to always go for your grail watch/es .
To me there are a) grail watches b) semi-grail watches and c) everyday watches. Grail watches are watches which I dream of and will never sell. Semi-grail watches are watches which i wont sell unless to obtain a grail watch. Everyday watches are watches i own which could be sold at any give time to obtain either the grail or semi-grail. Throughout my life collecting watches, i have cycle through a fair share of watches before obtaining my grail. I tried substituting my grail with another watch but the feeling is not the same and thus many have come and gone. So if you buy your grail:
a) you will feel very satisfied and happy - this is self explanatory
b) you save money - Watches devalue over time except certain brands. I'd cycle through a fair share and each time i sold them, i lose money.
c) you wont find the urge to buy another watch soon(unless you got more than one grail watch)
This is through personal experience. So far 2/3 of my grail watches have been obtained. One upon graduation and the other upon consolidating my collection. I will leave the last for another time. Any other members can also share some of their advice so that junior watch collectors would not be so lost in the whole world of watch collecting.
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May i add some too ???
Firstly
Watches are not investment especially if you are buying those "small/unknown/not many people know" type of watch brand which will depreciate ALOT when you try to sell. Even if you bought lolex/lolmega/Bretiling etc chances of getting a high return is quite low compared to buying property. The most you can get is maybe 80% more or less your money back UNLESS you get the odd one like the one cheese had on his Tudor heritage chronograph.
In my opinion, watches (i meant those big name brand) are not investment but more to be "liquid" as in it will be easily (depending on brand tho) turn into cash when you (are desperately) need cold hard cash.
I hate people generally told me watches is an "investment" :HammerHead:
Secondly
When you buy watches, please consider about the maintenance cost. Depending who you gave the watch to be serviced, prices will be from around Rm800 to ten of thousand Ringgit.
As a rule of thumb, if the watch have more bell and whistle usually the service cost will be higher. Same goes to how old is the watch, the older the watch usually more expensive. The person/company who will handle your watch will also determine the price of the service, official service center usually the most expensive (they label it as "profit center") but it does not mean the tech folks there will know what are they doing (eg seiko service center :HammerHead:). Some indie watch repairer will do better job at lower price but the problem is that they may not have access to parts but usually will not be the problem unless your skru up your watch badly.
It is an interesting point to think about it when you compared it to buying a Honda and Ferrari and counting the cost of owning it (like servicing, spare parts etc). ::)
Thirdly
Get the watch you liked the most and try not to follow the crowd.
I had seen posted in this forum and other forum asking "What do you thing of watch A" and usually the person will end up buying if the replies were positive and end up ditching the plan to buy it if the replies were negative. Usually I would just reply the person "Buy it if you liked it alot".
The reason I said this is because you are buying the watch to satisfy yourself aka "Shiok Sendiri" and not to buy and wear for the sake of pleasing other people.
When I first entered into the hobby, the first watch brand I saw is Panarai and I immediately stuck my eye onto it because it is "THE" watch to get because it is cool and you get the honour to be a "Paneristi". I was crazy for that particular watch (PAM 000) to the level of putting down my name in the waiting list at the AD in Pavilion (they havent call me yet lol :HammerHead:) but the fever on it died down. Why?
I asked myself why I wanted to buy it? The reason because everybody else was wearing it but once i tried it on my wrist (tru one of the forumer) it does not look right on my wrist and somehow I don have the "feel" when wearing it. What is the point of buying it if I don't even have the "feel" or chemistry between the watch and me (sounded like I am going after girl to be my GF :police:). Therefore, i decide not to go after it. No offence to Panerai lover ya :Cheers:
So buy whatever watch that satisfy you regardless of what other people think about it :laugh:
Lastly
Enjoy the hobby and PLEASE don't judge people by what watch are they wearing like what those people in watchshop does :)
A person who may owned a few humble seiko vintage diver can be more WAY MORE PASSIONATE than a person who bought gazillion ringgit watch but do not know anything about it. :angel:
Enjoy the hobby and smile like the girl in my avatar... lol :Laughing_on_floor:
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Very sound advice bro Gigi.
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Very sound advice bro Gigi.
Just sharing my opinion and experince in it :thumbsup:
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Thanks for sharing , I generally agree with your points especially the first one.
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Vry true
Its a good input for newbie like myself :)
thanks for the advice :thumbsup:
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Very good advice for an impulse buyer like me ;D
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I was an impulse buyer before also. After i realised it, it was too late to avoid losses but never too late to start cutting them :).
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I was an impulse buyer before also. After i realised it, it was too late to avoid losses but never too late to start cutting them :).
+1 :thumbsup:
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Good advice, G.MAC, especially for newbies like me with limited budget.
But because of my limited budget, I'll have to go for a 'semi-grail' as my first serious collection :Blue:
I appreciate Gigi's point as I also believe that we should be happy and proud to be who we are, no matter what's on our wrist.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
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Great advice and duly noted LOL :thumbsup:
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Advices from various members can used to reflect on other matters and vice versa. Don't live beyond your means. Specifically, don't buy a watch will make you inferior in front of others in your opinion. Buy the watch you can wear freely and happily. Same goes for car.
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Good advise from G.Mac & Gigi.. I strongly agreed on the investment part..and like what Sshark said dnt live beyond your mean...but i can't control myself to stretch my budget to get some watches which little bit beyond my mean :HammerHead:
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Good advise from G.Mac & Gigi.. I strongly agreed on the investment part..and like what Sshark said dnt live beyond your mean...but i can't control myself to stretch my budget to get some watches which little bit beyond my mean :HammerHead:
Don't we all bro... Don't we all... :Cheers:
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Bro,
Is it true some brand collection price would goes up in time? If that is so, it could be considered as an investment right?
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good advice guys...:) thanx...
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Bro,
Is it true some brand collection price would goes up in time? If that is so, it could be considered as an investment right?
This is very rare. DO be careful if you consider watches as an investment. Be more prepared to make a loss as opposed to a profit. Watches are NOT a good form of investment. Very risky.
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Good advice, G.MAC, especially for newbies like me with limited budget.
But because of my limited budget, I'll have to go for a 'semi-grail' as my first serious collection :Blue:
I appreciate Gigi's point as I also believe that we should be happy and proud to be who we are, no matter what's on our wrist.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
a grail need not be an expensive piece. It is just the watch which you really want from the beginning. How do you know which watch you really want is another discussion altogether. I was fortunate to know what i want and stick closely to it also despite the many potent poison from this forum :Laughing_on_floor:
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Don't care about other's preference.
One's grail is another's daily watch.
I'm not watch salesperson - I don't judge you by what you wear.
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agreed...i just bought a lesser known brand for the price of a Ball but so what, i love it to bits and i've never felt so satisfied with the purchase :thumbsup:
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agreed...i just bought a lesser known brand for the price of a Ball but so what, i love it to bits and i've never felt so satisfied with the purchase :thumbsup:
Ball is good from quality and price standpoint. But the previous older model were more "value for $" than current models. Nearly got myself a ball but din't in the end. But still it is a nice watch :thumbsup:
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I think otherwise, just different perspectives;
I understood how Gigi felt, sorry forgot yr real name, after some of us have gone through the cycle...
I was newbie before, and I did share this experience with DC. No matter how "Gang Ho" the advise is. It is better to let individual go through the mentality cycle;
1) Let them think watch is for investment, after a few round of burning
2) Let them have impulse buying, so some of us can acquire cheaper price in the 'Sale section"
3) Let them try different brand, so they will value more on the Grail
Simple rule, if you tell the kid not the play with fire, they will never understand. Let them try once, they will never argue with you...
Just my 16 cents of worth, my cents keep increasing... :Laughing_on_floor:
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I agree wif siodee... Once seen ghost, sure afraid of the dark...
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I agree wif siodee... Once seen ghost, sure afraid of the dark...
that goes for your Sonata too? ;D
cabut~~~
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Buy car abit different experience for me.
I actually started with a Kelisa to Persona to Vios to Civic and now Sonata.
As it is common knowledge in Malaysia and the world for that matter, cars are bound to decline in value... 10% per year by normal estimates... faster if you drive a European make like Audi, Beemer, Merc...
Normally my cars would stay with me for at least 3 years before I change... and I only took 5 year loans for my cars...Now my style would not be suitable for those taking 7 year or 9 year loan...
A friend of mine took out a 9 year loan on his toyota... after driving it for 5 years, he sell the car and settle his bank loan and is left with peanuts that's not even enough for a downpayment on a new car... 2nd hand value? You only need to worry about that if you're taking a long car loan, which is risky if you ask me... The only thing that I would go for the maximum term loan is property... if I can afford to pay off a 3 year car loan, I would... but 5 years is more realistic for me... ;)
For me, whenever the 3 years is up, I only have 2 years left on the bank loan, I even if I calculate that the value of my car loses 15% per year for 3 years and I sell it based on that estimate, I still have enough to pay off my loan and downpayment for a new car.
People who owned cars would know that we will never be satisfied... when we buy a car, we would say to ourselves, once I finish paying this car... sky clear liao... got car to drive with no monthly payments... who are we kidding? That's how I think when I finished paying my Kelisa.
Itchy butt go look at new cars liao...
Sorry for going off topic here... ;D This is my own experience in car buying...
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as a snr newbie ::), thank you all for your sound advise ;D
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haha... very sound advise from all here..
I myself is a newbie to this hobby. I bought my first wrist watch when I got my first work's bonus. Nothing fancy, just a quartz Tissot. As I progresses thru life, I picked one or two along the way, just to be able to choose and change according to mood. Still, not big into watches, yet.
But my perspective on watched changed. I wanted a watch to fit the occasions that I will partake in.
A dress watch, swimming, jogging, hiking, car track/driving, lepak-ing etc..
As I surf and learn the mechanics and passion of watches from the internet, I was totally attracted to watches more now than before. The readings fueled my passion for watches, but still I stay true to my first intention for getting watches.
I even got a plastic-type Addidas digital watch that I used when travelling in and around China on business trips. Beats the hassle of needing to take off my watch at the scanners.... ;D
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I was newbie before, and I did share this experience with DC. No matter how "Gang Ho" the advise is. It is better to let individual go through the mentality cycle;
1) Let them think watch is for investment, after a few round of burning
2) Let them have impulse buying, so some of us can acquire cheaper price in the 'Sale section"
3) Let them try different brand, so they will value more on the Grail
Simple rule, if you tell the kid not the play with fire, they will never understand. Let them try once, they will never argue with you...
Just my 16 cents of worth, my cents keep increasing... :Laughing_on_floor:
True, true for most people who doesn't want to heed seniors' advices.
For me, the advices from the "watch sifus" here is as precious as our "grails". It is just that human nature and incessant "poisons" that may make one sway from his/her original intention to pursue their "grail".
I must add that it is Good Advices from G.Mac & Gigi for most newbies like me.
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Any advise from sifus here is much more personal and from experience. Not so much thou for shops out there...( not all..).
After all, they are in the business of making monies. But I do respect some who really and sincerely wanted to teach you "the rope" about watches.
Final and most common sentences for "what is the best watch to buy?" the answers are usually - "depends on how deep your pocket is...." haha...
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Any advise from sifus here is much more personal and from experience. Not so much thou for shops out there...( not all..).
After all, they are in the business of making monies. But I do respect some who really and sincerely wanted to teach you "the rope" about watches.
Final and most common sentences for "what is the best watch to buy?" the answers are usually - "depends on how deep your pocket is...." haha...
peiseh, the problem is uncertainty of our pocket whether deep or not. the main problem is our pocket got "lubang" :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
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1) Let them think watch is for investment, after a few round of burning
2) Let them have impulse buying, so some of us can acquire cheaper price in the 'Sale section"
3) Let them try different brand, so they will value more on the Grail
Hmmm......Is this one of the 'tricks of the trade' to watch collecting? ;)
My dream for my 1st grail is a good rolex - sub or explorer.
After surfing thru this forum a bit, I find myself opening up to other makes as well. Too much poison in the forum!?! :-\
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problem is sometimes u have a target and as you are searching for your target something else comes along and sweeps you off your feet...so you have to up your budget a few times higher than your initial target and then poof your other half sees a smaller version of the watch which sweeped you off your feet so you have to double that upped budget as well :o
so my advice is...if you're looking for a watch, make sure you set aside budget at least 6 - 8 times the price of the target watch :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
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so my advice is...if you're looking for a watch, make sure you set aside budget at least 6 - 8 times the price of the target watch :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Looks like I'll have to tarik my belt for another couple of years :'(
Or, lower my sights for now :-\
Hai-ya! The pains of getting poisoned........
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so my advice is...if you're looking for a watch, make sure you set aside budget at least 6 - 8 times the price of the target watch :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Looks like I'll have to tarik my belt for another couple of years :'(
Or, lower my sights for now :-\
Hai-ya! The pains of getting poisoned........
yea man...better target a Seiko5 1st....at least when you actually buy can get a Tag or Ball.... :Laughing_on_floor:
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From dreaming of 'Explorer' with a 'Sub' to playing 'Tag' with a 'Ball' :Jumping:
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My dream for my 1st grail is a good rolex - sub or explorer.
After surfing thru this forum a bit, I find myself opening up to other makes as well. Too much poison in the forum!?! :-\
Yes, too much "poison".
For me it is the other way around. My 1st grail target is a Seiko. Along the way came Russian watches, military & pilot watches. Still taking "antibiotics" to negate whatever "poison" has been absorbed.
Still the "mother of all poison" is still taking effect and the next grail for me will be a Rollie (maybe a year or two from now).
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yo gigi...you said it well here
Lastly
Enjoy the hobby and PLEASE don't judge people by what watch are they wearing like what those people in watchshop does :)
A person who may owned a few humble seiko vintage diver can be more WAY MORE PASSIONATE than a person who bought gazillion ringgit watch but do not know anything about it. :angel:
Enjoy the hobby and smile like the girl in my avatar... lol :Laughing_on_floor:
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newbie...u wanna good investment....buy shares, land, houses, property, gold, oil, or even buy cash in other form of currency....
u buy watches, you appreciate the world of horology.....sometime u get away with good price when u need to sell but that is just bonus....stay within popular demand could help in maintaining a good price...even folk here selling PAM and Rollies at lower than market price when they want to get quick cash....yes some make money but not all...
so if really u have that money for investment...invest on other thing first....
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Hope I'm not breaking any rules with this post.
Since this thread is for newbies, and I am new to this hobby, can I ask the Sifus here this.
There are many shops that sell pre-owned watches. In your experience, how do you check or find out if;
a) the shop / seller is honest with his claims.
b) the authencity of the watch that you are interested in?
Thanks in advance for the advices :thumbsup:
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My rule is simple, invest your money into property & gold. Profit gained from these investment can be used to buy watch :) Do not use your hard earned money to buy expensive things like watches. People always say watch is not an investment but think twice as with US currency going down, some people actually buy watches from the states at lower price and sell it in Malaysia at higher price :) Some smart people are actually making profit from buying and selling watches.
For me whatever it is, as long as you dont go loaning from Along to buy watch & your monthly expenses is ok ( all the necessity paid & have savings every month ), the extra dosh is yours to spend.
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Hope I'm not breaking any rules with this post.
Since this thread is for newbies, and I am new to this hobby, can I ask the Sifus here this.
There are many shops that sell pre-owned watches. In your experience, how do you check or find out if;
a) the shop / seller is honest with his claims.
b) the authencity of the watch that you are interested in?
Thanks in advance for the advices :thumbsup:
hm...maybe one that will accept and give you back a decent trade-in price if you decided to sell the watch back to him.
Authenticity - shop that declares it in writing. If they are coy about this, walk away.
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Gigi aka Abel.
Brovo..You are getting more mature by the day........
Keep it up.
dc
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Hope I'm not breaking any rules with this post.
Since this thread is for newbies, and I am new to this hobby, can I ask the Sifus here this.
There are many shops that sell pre-owned watches. In your experience, how do you check or find out if;
a) the shop / seller is honest with his claims.
b) the authencity of the watch that you are interested in?
Thanks in advance for the advices :thumbsup:
If you walk into those shop, most of them are business man, they need to take care of the rent, stocks, and all the running costs. If they sell you at low price, sure something fishy. If sell you at high price, then you walk away. Unless you know some of them, or tag along with some sifus here when we organize GTG, then explore a few times before you pull the trigger, now of course, there is no free lunch la, you got to pay to gain ma. Sifus also human being, need to eat and drink ma... :Laughing_on_floor:
Alternative, buy from MWF's Sale section, some are reputable seller here, some with huge discounted price and it is authentic. This one is FOC, no need pay to gain...
Just my 16 cents
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gigi, siodee AAA+ advices
on investment there are alway risks involve, it will be up or down
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Ai ya ya siodee, ............. dun start a bad preceedance lah, newbie will shy away from future gtg woh, how ah? :laugh:
To be honest and frank, most of our gtg....where foods and drinks are concerned....its AA style...where how much you have (eat.drink) is how much you should pay. I hope this will do away the shyness from many of our members attending the gtg...unless you're are buddy x 2 with a fellow members and buy his/her drinks/dinner, etc.
Having said that, I can also accept drinks from anyone who is willing to do so...as a token of appreciation, if any...... :laugh:
dc
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I'll be happy to buy drinks for any of you guys 'cos it's great to know more friends with the same interest. :Cheers:
What more if can help me get my grail at the same time - that's a real bonus!
I'll keep an eye out to see if I can join you guys on a gathering in the near future.
By the way, me Ipoh mali!!! :thumbsup:
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Gigi aka Abel.
Brovo..You are getting more mature by the day........
Keep it up.
dc
No lar, i may be in watch forum but not on other matters.. I make big and small mistake too :'(
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DC, why so fast reveal our fairness, Bro Bryan from Ipoh can bring us Bean Sprout Chicken and Paper wrap chicken :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Bryan, you can check out GTG session for upcoming
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I'll be happy to buy drinks for any of you guys 'cos it's great to know more friends with the same interest. :Cheers:
What more if can help me get my grail at the same time - that's a real bonus!
I'll keep an eye out to see if I can join you guys on a gathering in the near future.
By the way, me Ipoh mali!!! :thumbsup:
Ok, in this case, Bryan can make do with some makan2 to siodee and me (only), if he wants some jalan to get his grail..which also a bonuses for us..as we have to talk & talk till our saliva also dries up
dc
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Siodee> beansprout chicken best taken at its place where it's prepared. So call out when you wanna come Ipoh.
Since David will talk till mouth dry, best to replentish with Ipoh's famous snow-beer :Cheers:
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Siodee> beansprout chicken best taken at its place where it's prepared. So call out when you wanna come Ipoh.
Since David will talk till mouth dry, best to replentish with Ipoh's famous snow-beer :Cheers:
wah! now ipoh have beer ar?
never been back for a long time... sigh
so watch gallery opened in syuen yet? talked with the young boss and heard they are branching out into ipoh and kk early this year
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Siodee> beansprout chicken best taken at its place where it's prepared. So call out when you wanna come Ipoh.
Since David will talk till mouth dry, best to replentish with Ipoh's famous snow-beer :Cheers:
where is ipoh famous snow beer ? ;D
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Siodee> beansprout chicken best taken at its place where it's prepared. So call out when you wanna come Ipoh.
Since David will talk till mouth dry, best to replentish with Ipoh's famous snow-beer :Cheers:
IMHO, if daytime, drink white kopi. If night time, snow-beer. :Cheers:
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Yup! Ipoh white coffee for Siodee & DC to keep them talking, stuff their mouths with 'Yee-poh ngar choy kai' to shut them up and finish off with snow beer to put them to sleep! :Laughing_on_floor:
But, seriously I haven't gone round my own town to look for good pre-own pieces. :-[
I guess there would be more choices in KL anyway.
Terence> There's only 1 watch shop in Syuen Hotel I know of, and they are the AD for Rolex. The main shop is run by the elder brother in old town, near the popular white coffee shops.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
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Yup! Ipoh white coffee for Siodee & DC to keep them talking, stuff their mouths with 'Yee-poh ngar choy kai' to shut them up and finish off with snow beer to put them to sleep! :Laughing_on_floor:
But, seriously I haven't gone round my own town to look for good pre-own pieces. :-[
I guess there would be more choices in KL anyway.
Terence> There's only 1 watch shop in Syuen Hotel I know of, and they are the AD for Rolex. The main shop is run by the elder brother in old town, near the popular white coffee shops.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
dunno... the young boss in watch gallery told me they are opening in ipoh during CNY and have a shop in KK in sutera harbour
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Bryan, White coffee for DC, snow beer for me la :Laughing_on_floor:,
Btw, is it home made snow beer? didn't know Ipoh got Snow Beer, must try next time visit there, any recommended pub or restaurant???
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Since when Ipoh is famous of snow beer?
I thought only snow White?
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Snow beer or 'sheet far bear' was made popular in Ipoh back in the 80s and slowly spread to KL in the 90s, if I got the facts right.
Basically, it's beer chilled to a certain temp and when the bottle is open, the foam pours out in a 'snowy' texture.
Beer lovers swear that it goes down nice and easy and you don't get drunk so easy! :Cheers:
Most popular place is in old town, between the Maybank building and the historic 'Concubine Lane', at night.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
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Snow beer or 'sheet far bear' was made popular in Ipoh back in the 80s and slowly spread to KL in the 90s, if I got the facts right.
Basically, it's beer chilled to a certain temp and when the bottle is open, the foam pours out in a 'snowy' texture.
Beer lovers swear that it goes down nice and easy and you don't get drunk so easy! :Cheers:
Most popular place is in old town, between the Maybank building and the historic 'Concubine Lane', at night.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
oh now i remember what is "snow beer"........
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Yup! Ipoh white coffee for Siodee & DC to keep them talking, stuff their mouths with 'Yee-poh ngar choy kai' to shut them up and finish off with snow beer to put them to sleep! :Laughing_on_floor:
But, seriously I haven't gone round my own town to look for good pre-own pieces. :-[
I guess there would be more choices in KL anyway.
Terence> There's only 1 watch shop in Syuen Hotel I know of, and they are the AD for Rolex. The main shop is run by the elder brother in old town, near the popular white coffee shops.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
Ipoh old town serves great white coffee but for that exquisite smooth lingering aftertaste try the iced white coffee at Foo Kwai coffeshop in Kg Bercham. Never fail to stop by for a cuppa when passing thru. Corner shop just next to Maybank, opposite Shell station. Serves great noodles and yong tau foo mix too. Highly recommended is the dry curry mee. Yummy. Try it Bryan, and rate it.
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miss ipoh.... any coffee shop in ipoh is better than everything over here.
can't get any decent noodles over here. everything so heavy alkaline taste. coffee and tea sucks too....
tau foo far not smooth enough...bean sprouts not crunchy enough..... fried noodles too sweet.....
the only saving grace are the women wears shorter than Ipoh :Laughing_on_floor:
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the only saving grace are the women wears shorter than Ipoh :Laughing_on_floor:
But is it better than Kampar? ;)
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the only saving grace are the women wears shorter than Ipoh :Laughing_on_floor:
But is it better than Kampar? ;)
Wow, from Ipoh to Kampar, you mean Kampar's woman wear panties only????
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Why is Ipoh famous for produces so many langlui ah ??? .............. Is it because of the ngahchoi chicken? :Cheers:
Most of the Ipoh langluis go to study or work in Kl and learnt to wear short-short skirts! :P
Nayo> I'll try the place in Bercham. Sounds yummy! Is it open at night as well?
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Guys,
Please keep this thread clean you guys are staying off from the main purpose of this topic.....
I dont want newbie to look for guidance end up reading about good food and drinks......
:o
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Guys,
Please keep this thread clean you guys are staying off from the main purpose of this topic.....
I dont want newbie to look for guidance end up reading about good food and drinks......
:o
Agree :thumbsup:...if the newbie read until here, those previous posts are some bad example to follow, especially those food or leng lui stuff. This is MWF (Malaysia Watch Forum), and not (Malaysia Wanted Food)... :Laughing_on_floor:
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Guys,
Please keep this thread clean you guys are staying off from the main purpose of this topic.....
I dont want newbie to look for guidance end up reading about good food and drinks......
:o
Sorry, topic got carried away not intentionally.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
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Back to topic.
To summarise:
From Gmac - always go for your grail watches. There may be semi-grail & everyday watches, but the most satisfaction is your grail watch.
From Gigi -
1) Watch is not "investment". Only watches (those big name brand) are more "liquid" to exchange for cold, hard cash.
2) Consider about maintaining the watch ie., sent for service; prices will be from around Rm800 to ten of thousand Ringgit
3) Get the watch you liked the most and try not to follow the crowd, ie buy the watch to satisfy yourself, no one else.
4) Enjoy the hobby and do not judge people by what watch are they wearing.
From siowdee -
Let the newbies think that watch is an investment, get their fingers burn, then they will learn.
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Hope I'm not breaking any rules with this post.
Since this thread is for newbies, and I am new to this hobby, can I ask the Sifus here this.
There are many shops that sell pre-owned watches. In your experience, how do you check or find out if;
a) the shop / seller is honest with his claims.
b) the authencity of the watch that you are interested in?
Thanks in advance for the advices :thumbsup:
Me no sifus, but from what I can gather these past few weeks,
a) the shop / seller is honest with his claims - "buy" the seller first, ie get "pally" with the seller and from there assess if he is an honest seller; find out from other buyers (if you know them), recommendation from internet(?).
b) the authencity of the watch that you are interested in -
1) do your own homework; for example, if I am looking for a 1970 Rollie, check out the serial no. and see it match the year of make or not.
2) caress or molest the watch, (this one may need many moons of experience by feeling the fakes with the originals) you will know if the watch is a "chou fo" (Cantonese meaning rough stuff aka fakes)
3) get watch sifus from MWN to tag along for their assessment
Some of the recommendation can be forund in the thread started by siodee on vintage watch and please see my comments at reply #13:
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,2798.0.html
Cheers.
Chng
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Watchnewby> Thnks for the post. I bow in respect to your superior knowledge.
Take care, Ciao! :thumbsup:
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I am thank for the explaination. After two years, I think i got my semi holy grail. But I have made some mistakes n sold it off after a few months. Some seniors also advised me to stay with a certain numbers (unless its collectable) otherwise we bankrupt our account. I have much to learn. After 2 years, I do not think I have lost alot of money and am still confine to 6 pieces only.
Now I am eyeing my holy grail and may just off load my moonwatch.
Thank you
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Interesting thread. Must have missed it because of the ipoh girls and kampar girls and ...... ::) :P ;D :)
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Ipohmali :Cheers: :Dancing_banana:
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Wah, so rich one. I wear my Panerai for all functions. Hope I can have someday be like you all. Can get watch for daily wear, for pasar malam, for dinner and for etc..... hehehee...
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Wah, so rich one. I wear my Panerai for all functions. Hope I can have someday be like you all. Can get watch for daily wear, for pasar malam, for dinner and for etc..... hehehee...
Your one panerai is worth more than our seikos, citizen, casio, swatches etc.
You wear wear one watch for many occasions.
We wear many watches for the one occasion we deemed appropriate (in our opinion).
:Cheers:
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We wear many watches for the one occasion we deemed appropriate (in our opinion).
:Cheers:
How to wear many watches for 1 occasion? I gotta see this :)
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We wear many watches for the one occasion we deemed appropriate (in our opinion).
:Cheers:
How to wear many watches for 1 occasion? I gotta see this :)
sshark,
It is not for 1 occassion but "for the one occassion we deemed approriate."
Meaning for examples, for scuba diving/snorkelling/swimming wear a Divers watch; for extreme sports/rock climbing/mountaineering wear a "tough nut to crack" watch like the Casio G-shock; for black top dinner wear a Dress watch; and for playing sports game, wear a Sport watch etc.
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different watch worn for different occasion
We wear many watches for the one occasion we deemed appropriate (in our opinion).
:Cheers:
How to wear many watches for 1 occasion? I gotta see this :)
sshark,
It is not for 1 occassion but "for the one occassion we deemed approriate."
Meaning for examples, for scuba diving/snorkelling/swimming wear a Divers watch; for extreme sports/rock climbing/mountaineering wear a "tough nut to crack" watch like the Casio G-shock; for black top dinner wear a Dress watch; and for playing sports game, wear a Sport watch etc.
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We wear many watches for the one occasion we deemed appropriate (in our opinion).
:Cheers:
How to wear many watches for 1 occasion? I gotta see this :)
sshark,
It is not for 1 occassion but "for the one occassion we deemed approriate."
Meaning for examples, for scuba diving/snorkelling/swimming wear a Divers watch; for extreme sports/rock climbing/mountaineering wear a "tough nut to crack" watch like the Casio G-shock; for black top dinner wear a Dress watch; and for playing sports game, wear a Sport watch etc.
can i say, make it 3 diff watch
1) Formal Watch
2) Sport Watch
3) Casual Watch
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I think it is correct on all the 2 pts. Never an investment, never dictated by others. I tend to think well established brands do have better resale value and can easily be traded. Except for afew, I do feel that Rolex is quite robust and easier to maintain.
Equally correct is different watch for different occasion. I keep a casio for my gym n jogging though I have some that cost many times over. I have taken my casio on my adventures and outing. Then I keep a tag carrera for daily used, mostly when I am out late, no issue of robbery. Come to think of it, my prized watches are mothball most of the time. I still try to wear it once a week on rotation. There's the irony; something well made and built but seldom used.
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I dunno bout you guys.
But I wear my 16570 Noir ExpII daily rain or shine.
Now I passed it to my wife, she's wearing it all the time too.
Now I am on my year 1996 Sub that I got back from service.
Wear it everyday as well rain or shine.
If there's a formal event or dinner to attend, I wear my Zenith Chronomaster Open.
The watch that does not get worn often is my Omega Co-Axial Blue Bond.
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Yes that's the irony. The more u pay the less u will use. After I realized that, a while ago, I started my more expensive watch more freq depending on occasions
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Yes that's the irony. The more u pay the less u will use. After I realized that, a while ago, I started my more expensive watch more freq depending on occasions
+1 on the part "The more u pay the less u will use".
I am on my Seiko 5 as a daily beater.
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I learn to sell my beaters after a while so i end up wearing the Pam or rolex daily.
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Hi guys,wanna ask u guys where's the best place to get pre-owned watch online and offline?