Grand Seiko

[JOS2012]

I'm not surprised...
If you know them, do some of us here a favour and organise a GS gathering for us to view and learn from them...
 

Bro jos2012,
My collection is small. There are some people with very large gs collection in Malaysia.  Keeping quiet!!
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[felixlew]

thx to all sifu and master of watch
you all really open my eye sight ,and lots of pro advise.....

[felixlew]

in sunway there is a premeir shop izzit?

[JOS2012]

Sunway LG has a GS counter next to a Seiko AD...but not many choices of GS....

in sunway there is a premeir shop izzit?

[dpkong]

Your comments, concerns and enquiries are duly noted and I do see your valid points..

Will try to enlist in a Japanese class and assist for Japanese reports if you have not bought a SD by then..

And once you have enrolled in a Japanese class, I'll also bring some of the more "fleshy" Japanese magazines to you for translation. You can read them out to me at Starbucks pavilion.....

Will they be wearing watches in the magazines???

 

[harkensng]

I'm not surprised...
If you know them, do some of us here a favour and organise a GS gathering for us to view and learn from them...
 

Bro jos2012,
My collection is small. There are some people with very large gs collection in Malaysia.  Keeping quiet!!

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Bro jos2012, actually I met  up with enkidu and another Seiko fan from scwf over new year period. Mainly to see grand Seiko. We did ask whether it''ll be good to have gs gtg but then reckoned it will not be good bcos then we will be seen by other members as become exclusive club. Better let the mods organise a general gtg and we bring our gs so more people can appreciate. Just our view then......

God bless
Harken

[takashi78]

Anyone and everyone welcome to organize gtg.
Not only the mods.
Go ahead...we are very open here.

[swleong]

ah, GS gathering....the poison starts attacking me....slowly  but surely. ...

[Alvin-8880]

Sunway LG has a GS counter next to a Seiko AD...but not many choices of GS....

in sunway there is a premeir shop izzit?

Actually there is 1 watch shop at Paradigm selling GS too, quite a range there. Just next to Starbucks.

[RaymondT]

I have never look at Seiko the way i look at it now after kena poison from you guys 

Anyway, i saw this vintage beauty selling by a japanese seller for 1.4K USD , was wondering if it is a good price to pull the trigger ?

[Enkidu]

I have never look at Seiko the way i look at it now after kena poison from you guys 

Anyway, i saw this vintage beauty selling by a japanese seller for 1.4K USD , was wondering if it is a good price to pull the trigger ?

Hi, Raymond,

USD1.4k sounds a bit on the high side. Is the dial original to the watch or re-finished? If the latter, then the value will be negatively affected further.

Please also check the gold GS medallion on the case-back. Is it in good condition? This is very important. Make sure the gold medallion also has the Daini symbol (like that on the dial) and not the Suwa symbol. Some japanese sellers take us gaijins for idiots.

If I am correct, movement-case number for this piece should be 4522-7000. Please check the case back for this number (written on the horse shoe).

[RaymondT]

Hi Enkidu,

According to the seller , the dial was "refinished by professional" before it was put on sale.

Got another pic of the caseback which says "4520-7000" , does that mean the watch it not in its original parts?



Luckily i got a forum like this to fall back to for advice

btw , my bad , the seller is actually not japanese but taiwanese.

[Enkidu]

Hi Enkidu,

According to the seller , the dial was "refinished by professional" before it was put on sale.

Got another pic of the caseback which says "4520-7000" , does that mean the watch it not in its original parts?



Luckily i got a forum like this to fall back to for advice

btw , my bad , the seller is actually not japanese but taiwanese.

My deepest apology.  This is a non-date model. So 4520-7000 is correct. This model was made largely from 1968-1970. So the serial number - August 1969 - appears to be consistent. And yes, watches from those years says "waterproof" and not "water-resistant". Gold medallion looks OK with Daini symbol.

But USD1.4K for a refinished dial HW GS is on the high side definitely. IMHO, "Professionally refinished" means very little or nothing. Of course, it must be professionally refinished. I am sure it won't be described as "unprofessionally refinished". At the end of the day, it's still a refinished dial and its value depreciates accordingly because of that.

If I were you, I'll let this one pass. That's just my own opinion of course.

[RaymondT]

Guess I will give it a pass as well , thanks enkidu !

[harkensng]

Bro, 1400usd is way too high. Maybe 500 to 700usd only because 'rfinished dial.

[JOS2012]

hi harkensng,
actually there is no diff when members pm each other to organise private gatherings of which there have been several.
My suggestion of an organised GS themed gathering is out in the open where anyone having an interest to talk GS/Credor is welcomed to join and also showcase and share their prized GS/Credors.

I'd love it if members set up other brand specific gatherings as most of us own several brands anyway...
Your opinion of course is duly noted and I must say that you are a very diplomatic guy unlike my redneckedness.

Bro jos2012,
My collection is small. There are some people with very large gs collection in Malaysia.  Keeping quiet!!

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Bro jos2012, actually I met  up with enkidu and another Seiko fan from scwf over new year period. Mainly to see grand Seiko. We did ask whether it''ll be good to have gs gtg but then reckoned it will not be good bcos then we will be seen by other members as become exclusive club. Better let the mods organise a general gtg and we bring our gs so more people can appreciate. Just our view then......

God bless
Harken
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[eltontan]

Hi Enkidu,

According to the seller , the dial was "refinished by professional" before it was put on sale.

Got another pic of the caseback which says "4520-7000" , does that mean the watch it not in its original parts?



Luckily i got a forum like this to fall back to for advice

btw , my bad , the seller is actually not japanese but taiwanese.

My deepest apology.  This is a non-date model. So 4520-7000 is correct. This model was made largely from 1968-1970. So the serial number - August 1969 - appears to be consistent. And yes, watches from those years says "waterproof" and not "water-resistant". Gold medallion looks OK with Daini symbol.

But USD1.4K for a refinished dial HW GS is on the high side definitely. IMHO, "Professionally refinished" means very little or nothing. Of course, it must be professionally refinished. I am sure it won't be described as "unprofessionally refinished". At the end of the day, it's still a refinished dial and its value depreciates accordingly because of that.

If I were you, I'll let this one pass. That's just my own opinion of course.

I wonder how you can tell that this is Aug 1969 from the serial number of 980016?

[JPSP]

hey guys,

can i check if SBGE001 and SBGA071 come with quick set date function? I can't find it in website and i don't have the time yet to to the boutique to check it out.

Thanks 

[davidtth]

hey guys,

can i check if SBGE001 and SBGA071 come with quick set date function? I can't find it in website and i don't have the time yet to to the boutique to check it out.

Thanks

from the crown ? yes the 1st pull out like most of watch

[davidtth]

not too sure about the GMT, u may look into the manual

http://www.seikowatches.com/support/ib/pdf/SEIKO_9R66_GS.pdf

[JPSP]

not too sure about the GMT, u may look into the manual

http://www.seikowatches.com/support/ib/pdf/SEIKO_9R66_GS.pdf

Thanks david! I just checked out Seiko's website to download the instruction manual (didn't know they've that information available). According to the instructions, seems like for spring drive diver watch has quick set date function but for spring drive GMT one doesn't have quick set date function. I prefer watches with quick set date function.

[euclidorus]

For SD GMT, you turn the hour hand 2 full turns clockwise to increase by one day - at times can take quite a bit longer if you're used to quick set.

not too sure about the GMT, u may look into the manual

http://www.seikowatches.com/support/ib/pdf/SEIKO_9R66_GS.pdf

Thanks david! I just checked out Seiko's website to download the instruction manual (didn't know they've that information available). According to the instructions, seems like for spring drive diver watch has quick set date function but for spring drive GMT one doesn't have quick set date function. I prefer watches with quick set date function.

[gapnap]

My suggestion of an organised GS themed gathering is out in the open where anyone having an interest to talk GS/Credor is welcomed to join and also showcase and share their prized GS/Credors.

I want in ! 

[JOS2012]

James,
true GMTs means the date will advance or retard in line with the hours hands forwarded or retarded in 1 hourly steps to show the actual date of your current destination away from home.

AFAIK the other true GMTs like the Rollie GMT II works the same way. To-date true GMTs do not have a rapid date changer as the mechanism of having both a rapid date changer as well as the date being able to be forwarded or retarded without damaging the date changing mechanism has not been developed.

Non-true GMTs have the rapid date changer but their dates cannot be retarded backwards when the hands are retarded backwards in hourly steps if I'm not wrong..

Can anyone advise me if the UN GMT (developed yrs back when Ludwig Oeschlin- who is a genius- was at UN) can do both...?


My previous B&R by Sinn which uses a modified 7750 with an extra hour hand (note I didn't say its a GMT) is able to show 2 hour zones. The date could not be retarded but could be advanced with the rapid date changer which means you need to advance the next full month cycle to arrive back at just 1 date before..

I stand corrected...

For SD GMT, you turn the hour hand 2 full turns clockwise to increase by one day - at times can take quite a bit longer if you're used to quick set.

not too sure about the GMT, u may look into the manual

http://www.seikowatches.com/support/ib/pdf/SEIKO_9R66_GS.pdf

Thanks david! I just checked out Seiko's website to download the instruction manual (didn't know they've that information available). According to the instructions, seems like for spring drive diver watch has quick set date function but for spring drive GMT one doesn't have quick set date function. I prefer watches with quick set date function.

It's really disappointing that the GMT doesn't have quick set function when i finally tracked down SBGE021 and intended to pay for it...the other Seiko GMTs are smaller in size unfortunately (i prefer 42mm min). Am i correct to say all GS spring drive GMT don't have quick set date function? 

SBGA071 is a very nice piece too but i've too many divers watch.... 

[JPSP]

James,
true GMTs means the date will advance or retard in line with the hours hands forwarded or retarded in 1 hourly steps to show the actual date of your current destination away from home.

AFAIK the other true GMTs like the Rollie GMT II works the same way. To-date true GMTs do not have a rapid date changer as the mechanism of having both a rapid date changer as well as the date being able to be forwarded or retarded without damaging the date changing mechanism has not been developed.

Non-true GMTs have the rapid date changer but their dates cannot be retarded backwards when the hands are retarded backwards in hourly steps if I'm not wrong..

Can anyone advise me if the UN GMT (developed yrs back when Ludwig Oeschlin- who is a genius- was at UN) can do both...?


My previous B&R by Sinn which uses a modified 7750 with an extra hour hand (note I didn't say its a GMT) is able to show 2 hour zones. The date could not be retarded but could be advanced with the rapid date changer which means you need to advance the next full month cycle to arrive back at just 1 date before..

I stand corrected...

For SD GMT, you turn the hour hand 2 full turns clockwise to increase by one day - at times can take quite a bit longer if you're used to quick set.

not too sure about the GMT, u may look into the manual

http://www.seikowatches.com/support/ib/pdf/SEIKO_9R66_GS.pdf

Thanks david! I just checked out Seiko's website to download the instruction manual (didn't know they've that information available). According to the instructions, seems like for spring drive diver watch has quick set date function but for spring drive GMT one doesn't have quick set date function. I prefer watches with quick set date function.

It's really disappointing that the GMT doesn't have quick set function when i finally tracked down SBGE021 and intended to pay for it...the other Seiko GMTs are smaller in size unfortunately (i prefer 42mm min). Am i correct to say all GS spring drive GMT don't have quick set date function? 

SBGA071 is a very nice piece too but i've too many divers watch.... 

Thanks!

BTW, UN GMT can do both with the +/- pushers...sold it off few years ago.