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omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« on: December 29, 2012, 11:30:32 PM »
hi brothers,

Need your guidance, Which is better if to compare omega smp 212.30.41.20.01.002 and longines non date legend diver?

Price wise between those are not that much around rm1.4 k, one being new other is preloved.

What is your opinion? Kinda need urgent advice and hope these two watches are not being taken by others hehe

Thank you!


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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 05:22:29 AM »
Which one sings to you more? The only you have to satisfy is yourself.

Comparison apple and orange. One in house movement, the other ETA (well sort of in house), black dial vs brown dial, normal diver case with external bezel vs compressor case (internal rotating bezel), new vs pre-loved, still in production vs no longer in production, Brushed finished vs polished finish, great lume vs poor lume, metal bracelet vs strap,mdate vs no date and the list goes on.....
Both iconic watches....

Oh yeah, if you are particular about alignment, like bezel markings, the lld may not be the watch for you.

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 08:11:05 AM »
Modern vs Retro

What do u have now? That would give u a better picture.

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2012, 08:24:19 AM »
Hi there,

Thnks for the inputs. Frankly i like both hahahah seriously, both watches are like love at first sight

Of course i saw smp first then lld.

My home affairs minister prefers the lld since it looks different than my other wathces,

Errr but i dont have much serious collection, now i have speedy pro, seiko sarz035, and dress wtch like emporio armani, guy laroche and cerruti.

Thanks


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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2012, 12:34:42 PM »
I would pick the LLD for the reason of variety. There isn't much to choose from other brand when it comes to the LLD. Other retro/tribute sell way more than a LLD and most of them aren't even that nice.

The SMP however being a modern dive watch. You can easily find substitute. Since you have a speedy in your collection why not wait a bit before adding another Omega.

I have both watch (well ... the smp has since been stolen) I find the LLD possess more character than the SMP. Not that the SMP is a bad watch. It's just that the LLD has more funk than the SMP  :laugh:

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 12:51:33 PM »
Yeah I agree.
LLD is one hell of a good looking watch.
I suggest getting a more thicker strap for it as the original strap that comes with the LLD is kind of lightweight.
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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 01:04:30 PM »
I would pick the LLD for the reason of variety. There isn't much to choose from other brand when it comes to the LLD. Other retro/tribute sell way more than a LLD and most of them aren't even that nice.

The SMP however being a modern dive watch. You can easily find substitute. Since you have a speedy in your collection why not wait a bit before adding another Omega.

I have both watch (well ... the smp has since been stolen) I find the LLD possess more character than the SMP. Not that the SMP is a bad watch. It's just that the LLD has more funk than the SMP  :laugh:

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Tyler

Thanks tyler and sorry to hear about the stolen smp.

Yeah, frankly today i was on the net finding info on  this LLD. Here in jpan, ballpark price for new LLD  yen 231,000.
But i dont know the brand new price in Malaysia, to make comparison, can someone give me hint?

Because the preloved one nondate is not tht cheap considering its seconhand item in jpan.

This is the only reason i am still hesitating to go to the shop and of course, its been raining the whole day today!

Its true the smp is easily available and lld is quite rare on nondate version.

On the movement of these watches, both are comparable in quality and durabality?

And also i found 3 differents dials on LLD:
- Nondate with automatic inscription
- date with automatic inscription only
-  date with automatic and 30 bar inscripition.

Is there any reason behind this?

Thanks

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 01:15:25 PM »
Yeah I agree.
LLD is one hell of a good looking watch.
I suggest getting a more thicker strap for it as the original strap that comes with the LLD is kind of lightweight.

Yeah hanz,

Thanks for suggestion on the straps, will do after getting the watch

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2012, 01:22:58 PM »
RRP for the date and non-date is the same at rm6800.
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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2012, 01:40:47 PM »
RRP for the date and non-date is the same at rm6800.

Wow, that rm6800 i believe bfore discount. So price in japan damn expensive lah. Hmmmm

Any one selling preloved? Better buy in Malaysia i guess

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2012, 02:12:00 PM »
Not that easy to find. The LLD is not a rare watch but is one watch that really love by its owner for sure.

6k is the list price last time when it was introduce.

I would rather find one with all the box & paper and pay abit more than a really good price but lacking this and that.

The movement is nothing to shout about and a reliable one for sure.

I have a friend love it so much that he bought a second one!

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2012, 02:18:26 PM »
Not that easy to find. The LLD is not a rare watch but it sure is one love by its owner.

6k is the list price last time when it was introduce.

I would rather find one with all the box & paper and pay abit than a really good price but lacking this and that.

The movement is nothing to shout about and a reliable one for sure.

I have a friend love it so much that he about a second one!

Regard
Tyler

The model with date is dime a dozen and still being produced.
The non date one is rare... and now discontinued I believe.
Yes... Recommended Retail Price is rm6800.
Terrenceterrence "seriously, i think buying a watch for it's secondhand value is like getting married and thinking about divorce at the back of your mind."


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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2012, 02:29:51 PM »
Thanks you guys

Well the one lld that I'm looking is nondate preloved, not sure bout the condition. Tomorrow will check it. But price wise is close to malaysia rrp on brand new one. Thats somthing to give serious thought.

What about omega smp as per my reference above? I believe this is old model, non ceramic bezel? Any hint on rrp price in Malaysia?

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2012, 04:02:20 PM »
Be careful, if you based your decision heavily on price chances are you will end up with a bargain not a watch.

What good is a watch when it remind you that you should have gone for the other instead.

If the price in Japan is not favorable then maybe you should look some where else instead of changing your mind.

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2012, 05:00:30 PM »
Understood Tyler

Point taken. Will go to the shop and evaluate the condition tomorrow. Will update you.

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2012, 07:13:49 PM »
Correction, LLD list price here is RM6.9k
Only date version is available now.

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2012, 03:54:19 PM »
Went to the shop and it was closed!


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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2012, 09:05:50 PM »
 :o

Baahahahahahaa ... ... sorry I couldn't resist.

Look like it's gonna be a 2013 watch.

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2012, 09:36:00 PM »
Hahaha

Yeah tyler, happy new year to you too!

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2013, 10:24:35 AM »
Hello,

Just wanna update my quest!

I got it, happy and case is closed!

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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2013, 10:41:26 AM »
Hello,

Just wanna update my quest!

I got it, happy and case is closed!
Which one? Pics or it didn't happen... hahaha  ;D
Terrenceterrence "seriously, i think buying a watch for it's secondhand value is like getting married and thinking about divorce at the back of your mind."


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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2013, 11:29:49 AM »
Hello,

Just wanna update my quest!

I got it, happy and case is closed!
Which one? Pics or it didn't happen... hahaha  ;D

hahah this one bro!


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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2013, 12:16:49 PM »
Good choice  :thumbsup: my Date version say hi to you, see mine 3 O'clock also showing 3  :Laughing_on_floor:


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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2013, 12:19:27 PM »
Hello there  :D


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Re: omega SMP 212.30.41.20.01.002 vs longines non date legend diver
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2013, 12:28:52 PM »
Congratulations.

That's a great watch. I have mine for some time now and can't say enough good thing about it. This is a gem hidden in the modern Longines collection.

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Tyler
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