Rolex vs Panerai

[sshark]

Yes, Rolex over engineered their bracelet and I believe 316L is more than enough to handle pitting under human sweat condition.

Rolex calibre is used exclusive for its watches while 6497 (from base to chronometer mvmt) is used in other brands. Some people look specifically for this exclusiveness. Nvm, it is rumored, Rolex sold their watches in the range of millions annually.

I find Rolex & omega are good and they are comparable.

[chiewata]

buy one Lolex then buy another Pamerai will oke loh balanced up mah this is call hedging.....

[chiewata]

i was first thinking not to reply in this topic since i do not know how to compare this 2 brand.... they r very very different actually... n yet they r very close at one time...

after reading alot of negative thing bout pam here... i was thinking is pam that bad?
i'm no a paneristi and associated with pam or richemont... i owned 2 rolex n a pam now...

rolex was designed for daily wear... a daily beater.... accurate, tough, good wr, gd shock resistant, easy to maintain...
pam design replicate its history oversize military divers look... good wr, good lume, easy to read....

some ppl complaint around rm15-20k
rolex use 904l steel, in house movement, good wr, bracelet, forever green design...
but pam use eta, 316l steel, leather/rubber strap...

but pam was not using a normal eta movement!
pam used soprod modified for them eta movement... its not as cheap as u think the movement pam using
for example the handwing movement
compare to a usd130 base 6497-1 movement
pam upgraded following
1. beat 21600 instead of 18000
2. 56 hours power reserve instead of 38
3. rhodium plated instead of nickel/non plated ( rhodium is most expensive metal, mush more expensive than platinum, nickel is much cheaper material)
4. perlage finish on part of base plate
5. bridges modified
6. bridges edges trimmed and polished
7. bridges has cote de geneva finishing
8. glucydur balance
9. cosc tested
10. flamed blued screws
11. polished barrel wheel
12. engraved its brand and gold plated
13. higher grade rubies
14. nivorox-1 hair spring
etc

so rolex has a 904l oyster case.... if u know the old rolex steel is poor... cant even stand human sweat.. i hv seen plenty of old rolex case back has
alot of 'portholes'...
pam? yes, its used 316l.... but 316l its good enough for a watch...

bracelet  vs leather /rubber
rolex bracelet good? pls try the sinn, ball, omega.........
pam leather is dressy... its rubber strap is one of the best i ever find....

presentation
rolex box....u know what i mean...
pam... by far better....

bla bla bla.....

end of the day... we all must know that when both brand position themselve differently in market....
so ppl buy with different purpose.... which one better?
depend on who r u and why u buy the watch and how u use it.....

Sifu Yen amazing info and comparison there where most of it I dun understand but only one point I would like to comment is not all PAM model is COSC tested n certified my 210 is not certified by COSC....

[Scott C.]

Those no second hand will not have COSC la... but my PAM0 seem pretty accurate 

[chrisyen]

Sifu Yen amazing info and comparison there where most of it I dun understand but only one point I would like to comment is not all PAM model is COSC tested n certified my 210 is not certified by COSC....

yes!
for historical line
all marina/those with small second model with cosc
all base/without small second model no cosc

unless u buy a cosc grade or non cosc grade movement from eta.... but not for pam.... pam use same grade
so only different cost is to get the cosc different is another thousand.... thats the only different!
pam may even need to pay more to remove the small second.... lol

[Alice]

wah....mind boggling but thanks for the info shared Now I know my watches better 

[ex001]

Like both brand. They produce great watches. If i have more money i'll buy more of them