Panerai Detonator

[hanz079]

THIS.

The moderator sets the tone of the forum. If you allow vigilantes and trolls to post what they want - even if they claim its all a "discussion", "in fun". After all, the Joker did say, "why so serious" before he massacred the whole place. Bashers are so keen to shove his/her opinions in your face, hence 2 derailed threads.

When anything gets posted, the reader will decide if it's nonsense or not.
They can also choose to reply or not.
I don't think any opinion can be shoved in the face as you put it.
Disagree? Start typing away then...

Questions raised are legitimate by the way I see it.
Wether it is strong enough to stop a person buying a PAM?
I certainly don't think so.

But it does open another perspective as to how to look at claims of heritage or whatnot.

[Plankton-IkanBilis]

A drop of heritage...at the rate its going, due to all the streroids and supplements that have been administered since its resuscitation, many (mainly the less informed) will be drowned in its so-called sea of heritage.

[STT1987]

THIS.

The moderator sets the tone of the forum. If you allow vigilantes and trolls to post what they want - even if they claim its all a "discussion", "in fun". After all, the Joker did say, "why so serious" before he massacred the whole place. Bashers are so keen to shove his/her opinions in your face, hence 2 derailed threads.

When anything gets posted, the reader will decide if it's nonsense or not.
They can also choose to reply or not.
I don't think any opinion can be shoved in the face as you put it.
Disagree? Start typing away then...

Really? No one can shove opinions in their faces? Two derailed threads, one discussing Panerai straps and the other Panerai picture roll-call. A self confessed hater shows up posting OT nonsense on the threads on a brand that he openly dislikes and mocks under the guise of "discussion"? He had his own "discussion" thread until everybody got fed up talking in it, why don't he resurrect it if he is so interested in the topic. It's not about Panerai anymore - it's attention seeking. If I had an ignore button like facebook, I'd use it.

Opinions like his are like a**-holes, everyone has them; if I wanted someone to bash my collection - I'll ask my sister-in-law. Right now, MWF is only useful to me because of the merchants section (got a few nice bargains from there thx); here in the discussion threads - not so much. The trolls run wild and are probably friends with the mods.

[Enkidu]

Huh? Where in my last paragraph did I say you were afraid? I thought it was others (outsiders) that is afraid. If you have read that statement as you being afraid, then I do apologise, evidently my English is not so good.

Hahaha...No, you did not say I was afraid and I did say you said I was afraid. Communication problem. English not so good?? Don't be modest.

That pic you just posted is also from the same web-site I posted the other day. I have in fact sent an e-mail to ANSI ASIMUT also. Let's see what he says.

Now that the crowd has joined in, I'll need to shield myself from the usual after-the-battle flame-throwers. So, maybe will not be able to answer all your questions in detailed. 

[hanz079]

THIS.

The moderator sets the tone of the forum. If you allow vigilantes and trolls to post what they want - even if they claim its all a "discussion", "in fun". After all, the Joker did say, "why so serious" before he massacred the whole place. Bashers are so keen to shove his/her opinions in your face, hence 2 derailed threads.

When anything gets posted, the reader will decide if it's nonsense or not.
They can also choose to reply or not.
I don't think any opinion can be shoved in the face as you put it.
Disagree? Start typing away then...

Really? No one can shove opinions in their faces? Two derailed threads, one discussing Panerai straps and the other Panerai picture roll-call. A self confessed hater shows up posting OT nonsense on the threads on a brand that he openly dislikes and mocks under the guise of "discussion"? He had his own "discussion" thread until everybody got fed up talking in it, why don't he resurrect it if he is so interested in the topic. It's not about Panerai anymore - it's attention seeking. If I had an ignore button like facebook, I'd use it.

Opinions like his are like a**-holes, everyone has them; if I wanted someone to bash my collection - I'll ask my sister-in-law. Right now, MWF is only useful to me because of the merchants section (got a few nice bargains from there thx); here in the discussion threads - not so much. The trolls run wild and are probably friends with the mods.

Which is what led to the split off from the main roll call thread.
Now we have a seperate thread to talk about something that was raised which is quite interesting.
The Panerai Detonator... discussions seem to be going pretty well... for a time...

And lets not forget a fanboy / cult / risti  (his words) comes in with a challenge... a mindless one at that... sissy even if I can say it.

[Enkidu]

I opine that for certain models of Panerai, especially when it comes with sandwich dial, minute markers cannot be had. Why cos design and implementation cannot be rendered. Imagine and look for yourself. Minute markers on the dial can only be had for non-sandwich dial, ie applied markers dial.

Without minute markers is good cos to the wearer it feels more laid-back. Matter of plus minus one minute no life death situation.

Hey, Kenny, from your posts I think I must be your new-found idol. I remember you wrote you're in KL? PM me for a drink this Saturday. Pavilion is good. And bring along that PAM of yours (promise I won't do anything o it).

[Enkidu]

Not all Risti are the same. Just as not all watch from a brand are worth collecting. Enjoy your 210.

Regard
Tyler

OK, this I cannot disagree. But the comradeship is so strong, it's hard to prevent hitting the innocent sometimes. For that, it's my turn to apologise!! 

[takashi78]

Its Friday!

[fidoneo]

By Fidoneo.

Wah.. Debate still going on ?? Now the topic is on a detonator ?? haha ... really come out with something to talk about ... I got an idea , why dont post all your questions in Network54 ? let all those ristis reply you including me . hows that sound ?

Fanboy/Risti/Cult whatever you like to call it .




Cool... this is like saying, come to my territory if you dare...
Why not ask them to come over?
Oh wait... I forgot that you're the authorized spokes person.
Post the link over at p.com if you like, and they can reply here if they like or if they think if it's worth their time.
And BTW, we all know anything negative about pams over at p.com will be deleted in an instant...
It's not a secret... it's a well known fact.

And you might be able to reply over at p.com, but I am also sure it will be more or less the same at "I agree" "Well Said" or something along those lines.

Hanz. i was just suggesting and no i wasnt asking you guys for a challenge , well if you think i am not welcome here , Please ask danny or the other moderators to ban me from THIS FORUM ok ? i shall write and reply whatever i like .. so what wrong with "i agree " , "well said " ? Do you have a problem with my replies

[kiamat]

I opine that for certain models of Panerai, especially when it comes with sandwich dial, minute markers cannot be had. Why cos design and implementation cannot be rendered. Imagine and look for yourself. Minute markers on the dial can only be had for non-sandwich dial, ie applied markers dial.

Without minute markers is good cos to the wearer it feels more laid-back. Matter of plus minus one minute no life death situation.

Hey, Kenny, from your posts I think I must be your new-found idol. I remember you wrote you're in KL? PM me for a drink this Saturday. Pavilion is good. And bring along that PAM of yours (promise I won't do anything o it).

i know this is non of my business but enkidu, i hope you will set up a gtg... pavilion is an ideal meeting place.

[Enkidu]

Maybe i am more simple minded besides being a vigilante like Enkidu said i am.

You sure like to use "aka" alot 

As much as i dont like certain brands based on my own uncle sense of style and over 50yrs old i dont wage an all out "war" to diss certain brands.
I just stop buying them or not even buy my first.

This thread however gave me a whole new insight to Panerai in the "side biz" that they did way before. Interesting watch general knowledge.

My England may not be as good as most of you but i just came across this pic on the internetz....

Heeeey its Friday !!!

Where got all out war? Just posting a pic of topless male fashion models and Pamela Anderson considered all out war?

Yes, there is more to Panerai than most of us know. Lots of devices, timers, navigation instruments etc. For the best info, pics and diagrams googling may not be enough. For vintage gadget buffs, it can be a real treasure trove of knowledge. For leather strap, ammo strap loving folks unfortunately, such discussions are a complete waste of time and bandwidth. Hence, some of the heated reactions you received on this thread.

Add notes: And these devices may not be side-biz as you put it. Hobbitt and Tyler may know more, but I suspect it could be as important as if not more important than their watch biz during WWII.

Enkidu (A.K.A The Attention Seeker) 

[swleong]

"WEAR PAM OR......"

Is Friday, why so serious 

[terrenceterrence]

hahahahhah a good one  

okay will wear mine today. it's been sitting in the drawer for more than a year.

still think Pam is a big con job sorry to say. just a small nobody's-plebian opinion.

DNA and what not nonsense, it's just an excuse to sell you a cheap watch under the guise of "heritage".

"WEAR PAM OR......"

Is Friday, why so serious 

[Enkidu]

i know this is non of my business but enkidu, i hope you will set up a gtg... pavilion is an ideal meeting place.

I have not got a reply from Kenny. But if he is game for a drink, I'll PM you and you can bring along your newly acquired 425 if you trust I won't do anything to it.  Not a suitable time to organise a GTG I think, not just after I have been accused of being an attention seeker.   

[hanz079]

Hanz. i was just suggesting and no i wasnt asking you guys for a challenge , well if you think i am not welcome here , Please ask danny or the other moderators to ban me from THIS FORUM ok ? i shall write and reply whatever i like .. so what wrong with "i agree " , "well said " ? Do you have a problem with my replies

Unless any rules was broken repeatedly, I doubt anyone will ban you from this forum.
I could be wrong or my command of the english language might be shallow.
From what I can deduce from your post.
You are asking us to post whatever questions we have over at your home turf.
And over there, YOU and of course the ristis will answer the questions... my question is why there? What's wrong here?
I am sure your answers are highly revered at your home turf but unfortunately the discussion is here.
If they find it interesting enough, they can come over.
And if you can find a discussion even remotely as interesting, mind provoking, passion inducing thread over at your home turf... feel free to post the link here too... that is if you can find any...
Like I said, when the water subsides, you will know who is swimming naked.

[fidoneo]

Hanz. i was just suggesting and no i wasnt asking you guys for a challenge , well if you think i am not welcome here , Please ask danny or the other moderators to ban me from THIS FORUM ok ? i shall write and reply whatever i like .. so what wrong with "i agree " , "well said " ? Do you have a problem with my replies

Unless any rules was broken repeatedly, I doubt anyone will ban you from this forum.
I could be wrong or my command of the english language might be shallow.
From what I can deduce from your post.
You are asking us to post whatever questions we have over at your home turf.




First P.com is not My homeground. MWF IS !. i found friends in this forum. ! and i respected each and every one of you  except for the recent bashing on the PAM . So what my question to you guys are very simple since majority of us cant answer the question posted . why dont we post in P.com and ask them instead . I wasnt asking for a challenge ? why do u have to put salt into my statements ??
And over there, YOU and of course the ristis will answer the questions... my question is why there? What's wrong here?
I am sure your answers are highly revered at your home turf but unfortunately the discussion is here.
If they find it interesting enough, they can come over.
And if you can find a discussion even remotely as interesting, mind provoking, passion inducing thread over at your home turf... feel free to post the link here too... that is if you can find any...
Like I said, when the water subsides, you will know who is swimming naked.

[kiamat]

i know this is non of my business but enkidu, i hope you will set up a gtg... pavilion is an ideal meeting place.

I have not got a reply from Kenny. But if he is game for a drink, I'll PM you and you can bring along your newly acquired 425 if you trust I won't do anything to it.  Not a suitable time to organise a GTG I think, not just after I have been accused of being an attention seeker.

noted... i will change a new strap to match my clothing for that day   
i hope i don't sound like attention seeking 

[STT1987]

I'm asking my personal MWF friends not to bother with this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

Not getting paid for this sh**...
      

Where is getting bashed on the head class?
  

[fidoneo]

I'm asking my personal MWF friends not to bother with this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

Not getting paid for this sh**...
      

Where is getting bashed on the head class?
  


Wah .. ST..hahaha

[dpkong]

I meant fun NOT fund.

Helloooooooooo...of course we know it's a fun watch. Of course we know Panerai cannot be taken seriously. What do you think I have been saying all these while??  But watch out, your idol Master Hobbit (a.k.a The Supreme Guardian Angel of the House of PAM) may be swooping down on you pretty soon to explain why PAM is considered a fun watch. Don't look at me!! 

And Kenny, I am so sorry you got a lemon. Let me see, first it was Felix's PAM, then Sooncheng's PAM, then....., ......, now yours. Hmmmm.....looks like there is a whole orchard of PAM lemons out there, all within the past 2 months. But not really surpirising. Lemon is an essential ingredient in mediterranean cooking.

And thanks for sharing your story. What can I say?? Maybe I'll just say what the ristis always say:

Bro, you just earned my full respect, I salute you!!! 

 

Dpkong,

What was it that was lacking in this thread?

Woot?? How did I get dragged into this??

[Enkidu]

Right now, MWF is only useful to me because of the merchants section (got a few nice bargains from there thx); here in the discussion threads - not so much. The trolls run wild and are probably friends with the mods.

What? discussion threads not useful for you? Hey, at least you found out how to differentiate a GMT from a Sub and learnt that Subs were not around in 1947. C'mon lah. Be fair to us....

http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,7126.0.html

[dpkong]

 

Why do the fanboys have to come in here and spoil the discussion about "Panerai Detonators" ?

Do they have internet scanners that pick up every discussion about Panerai and then do a word scan to see if it appears to be "bashing" the brand?

And then without reading or trying to comprehend what the discussion is about, tell us to take our discussion into their forum ? Reminds me of days in primary school where the opponent draws the line and ask the "enemy" to cross it where his buddies are waiting to pounce. I'd always say, you draw the line, you come over.

If you have something useful to add to the discussion, please do so. Otherwise, just close the page and move on to the next discussion. This one isn't about straps.

Hanz. i was just suggesting and no i wasnt asking you guys for a challenge , well if you think i am not welcome here , Please ask danny or the other moderators to ban me from THIS FORUM ok ? i shall write and reply whatever i like .. so what wrong with "i agree " , "well said " ? Do you have a problem with my replies

First you ask us to go over to your territory to ask the question, where you and your friends will "answer us" (the purported challenge) and now you say it's not a challenge. Make up your mind. Are you or are you not asking us to post this there? Can you now see where the problem is? And please see the bold highlight as it shows you do enjoy issuing a challenge.

A gentle hint: It would be easier for us to read your replies if you learned how to use the "Quote" function. Inserting your replies randomly makes it difficult to see where your comments are.

I'm asking my personal MWF friends not to bother with this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

Not getting paid for this sh**...
      

Where is getting bashed on the head class?
  

Wow! You must have a lot of influence to decide what your friends can or cannot read. Who knows they might find something interesting in this thread about Panerai history? Or are you like some people in this country who gets to decide who gets to read what? Using foul language here to express yourself is so revealing.

All hail the mighty one...

 

A drop of heritage...at the rate its going, due to all the streroids and supplements that have been administered since its resuscitation, many (mainly the less informed) will be drowned in its so-called sea of heritage.

  

The truth hurts but this comment may be too deep for some to comprehend.

Now let's get back on track and tell me more about Panerai detonators and whatever else Panerai might have been making. The history is beginning to perk my interest. Too bad I'm too far from KL or I would come to Pavillion as well and no, I won't do anything to the watches. On the contrary instead!

[harkensng]

Maybe i am more simple minded besides being a vigilante like Enkidu said i am.

You sure like to use "aka" alot 

As much as i dont like certain brands based on my own uncle sense of style and over 50yrs old i dont wage an all out "war" to diss certain brands.
I just stop buying them or not even buy my first.

This thread however gave me a whole new insight to Panerai in the "side biz" that they did way before. Interesting watch general knowledge.

My England may not be as good as most of you but i just came across this pic on the internetz....

Heeeey its Friday !!!

Bro Enkidu,

Takashi78 is correct. why do you need to attack panerai? why this need? just let it be. after a while people will realise for themselves it's true quality or short of quality. doesnt not pay to be a hero. you only kena hantam and abused.

I bought my first pam abt five years ago. Lots of frens have Pams then. Then I bought second one, in 2009. Will i buy again? No. The quality/price ratio is just too low for my liking. Unfortunately i realised it late, but the positive thing is i did realise it at the end.  Once bitten by the bug, people will "fatt san keng". Buy, buy, buy.... after a while "aaaahhh....what have I done??" My point is, people will finally realise. No need for others to say it to them. why take the trouble? you so keen to get attacked by the hard core paneristis?

I am newbie here. But I have followed your earlier postings here. Good taste in watches. I really like your GO navigator and the IWC portuguese HW. From yr postings, i guess you are the same Enkidu in the old seiko citizen watch forum before the change in management few years back? I learned so much from some of your "tutorial" postings in the old scwf. Very useful for a noob like me. Especially about how to replace a lost click-ball in a seiko diver bezel using a rollerball of a 1.0mm ball pen. Interesting! Real genius! so I feel rather sad to see you kena hantam by people who cannot even tell the difference of a rolex sub and a rolex gmt!

Like bro kennypane said, it's a cult this Pam thing. A curse. You cannot do anything to cure it. Let it go!

God bless

- harken



 

[Kennypane]

I opine that for certain models of Panerai, especially when it comes with sandwich dial, minute markers cannot be had. Why cos design and implementation cannot be rendered. Imagine and look for yourself. Minute markers on the dial can only be had for non-sandwich dial, ie applied markers dial.

Without minute markers is good cos to the wearer it feels more laid-back. Matter of plus minus one minute no life death situation.

U promise u won't hurt me? Sorry weekends are off drinking for me. Next Monday I can be at Pavilion say maybe at La Bodega cos I have a meeting at 4pm nearby. Pls don't bring your gang to hurt one poor Panerai wearing gentleman.

Hey, Kenny, from your posts I think I must be your new-found idol. I remember you wrote you're in KL? PM me for a drink this Saturday. Pavilion is good. And bring along that PAM of yours (promise I won't do anything o it).

[Kennypane]

I like what harkensng said "Fatt san Keng". Laugh my ass off on a Saturday morning.  it just sounds funny. With limited financial resources we cannot buy buy buy. When u do that, it detonates your bank account. Now let's go back to talking seriously about our hobby.

Panerai since I joined as a member a month ago at MWF has been getting a lot of limelight from the Angel and the Devil here. Next person starting a new thread next should come up with something refreshing.

Have u guys met Enkidu before hope to take him to some Italian pasta with an Italian watch on the wrist. Panerai that is.