Author Topic: PAM 00024 & Rollie Sub (Read 12554 times)

RaymondT · « **on:** October 24, 2012, 11:57:07 AM »

Hi Sifus,

Wondering if anyone can gives some input/review.I'm looking for some personal review/opinion as i'm now in the cross road between a PAM00024 or a Rollie Sub.

Honestly , i'm caught between these 2 & my fund permits me to only choose 1. thank you guys!...

G.MAC · « **Reply #1 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:03:09 PM »

Submariner. Because it is a rolex. Unless you already have a Seadweller, Deepsea Seadweller or any other submariner then I'd go for the PAM00024.

The Godzilla · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:10:31 PM »

Sub man...

jacky8888 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:29:36 PM »

Submariner......

dennis.T · « **Reply #4 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:34:30 PM »

Sub first.. Thn others

RaymondT · « **Reply #5 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:42:13 PM »

Thanks guys , How about the reselling value for both ?

jacky8888 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:43:35 PM »

Also submariner......

RaymondT · « **Reply #7 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:47:52 PM »

Assuming i'm putting a budget of about 15k , which sub model/yr that falls under this range (pre-owned). Guys , pls let me know so that i can start the hunting

G.MAC · « **Reply #8 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:50:06 PM »

Sometimes it is all about luck when it comes to reselling. Sometimes you meet a buyer that really wants what you have and you will suffer minimal to no loss. Sometimes, when you choose to sell at the wrong time i.e: economic downturn, then you will not get a good price. But generally, it is safe to say that Rolex has the better resale value. For RM15k, the new ceramic range such as the 116610 and the 114060 is out of your reach. You can get the non-ceramic range such as the 16610 and the 14060 for that amount. For year, best to get one as new as possible.

ck77 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24, 2012, 12:50:35 PM »

Quote from: Ball Lover on October 24, 2012, 12:47:52 PM

Assuming i'm putting a budget of about 15k , which sub model/yr that falls under this range (pre-owned). Guys , pls let me know so that i can start the hunting

yes 15k is suffice for a pre-owned sub.
happy hunting.

tonykpk · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2012, 01:50:03 PM »

Quote from: Ball Lover on October 24, 2012, 12:47:52 PM

Assuming i'm putting a budget of about 15k , which sub model/yr that falls under this range (pre-owned). Guys , pls let me know so that i can start the hunting

A mint condition no date sub . If you don't own a rollie yet,

RaymondT · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2012, 02:07:23 PM »

Is there any particular point that i will need to look out for when getting a pre-owned sub ? Worried the parts maybe replaced or it is not being properly service by the previous owner or worst still ,fake.

Recently , i was in Macau. I saw alot of pawn shop selling all sort of sub , not sure if they're full set or original but it is really confusing.

ck77 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2012, 02:12:11 PM »

Quote from: Ball Lover on October 24, 2012, 02:07:23 PM

Is there any particular point that i will need to look out for when getting a pre-owned sub ? Worried the parts maybe replaced or it is not being properly service by the previous owner or worst still ,fake.

Recently , i was in Macau. I saw alot of pawn shop selling all sort of sub , not sure if they're full set or original but it is really confusing.

That's always a risk of buying pre-owned.
For peace of mind, get it verify at RSC before deal, if possible.

dpkong · « **Reply #13 on:** October 24, 2012, 02:27:45 PM »

There is advice on buying pre-owned in the forums. But to sum it up, buy the seller first.

Best to do a local deal where you can easily find the seller again if it you face a problem. Buying from overseas, it's best to buy from an AD. Too much going on in Macau or HK that you have to be a very seasoned buyer before trying your luck.

Rolex Submariners regularly show up in our For Sale section.

ssss · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2012, 03:26:42 PM »

Submariner. You will never regret, I bet you.

bOcy · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2012, 03:59:48 PM »

Got a d series (2005-2006?) 2 lines submariner 14060m with paper from shop in hong kong earlier this month. Cost is more or less RM15k, they charge % if pay by credit card

an all purpose watch, comfortable to wear, very happy with it

The Godzilla · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2012, 04:03:04 PM »

Save up, be patient, go for Sub Date

RaymondT · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2012, 07:14:40 PM »

I prefer the date sub , its functional for me as i refer to the watch date all the time. Is there any particular reason alot of sifus here prefer the no date ?

Pajero · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2012, 07:26:13 PM »

Submariner first

then PAM

hanz079 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 24, 2012, 07:37:12 PM »

Quote from: Ball Lover on October 24, 2012, 07:14:40 PM

I prefer the date sub , its functional for me as i refer to the watch date all the time. Is there any particular reason alot of sifus here prefer the no date ?

Coz the dial is more proportionate / balanced.
And also it's more closer to the original sub.

JayJay · « **Reply #20 on:** October 24, 2012, 08:01:50 PM »

subs is prefer due to higher resale value over long term as compare to pam24.

just like comparing Merc and Volks - both are good german car but somehow Merc carried better resale price, i guest same goes for rolex.... in this case

Enkidu · « **Reply #21 on:** October 24, 2012, 08:11:10 PM »

Quote from: Ball Lover on October 24, 2012, 07:14:40 PM

I prefer the date sub , its functional for me as i refer to the watch date all the time. Is there any particular reason alot of sifus here prefer the no date ?

Like Hanz said, the Submariner is more balanced and does not come with the cyclop which some people don't like.

But, if you are not obsessed with symmetry and do not have a problem with the cyclop, just go for the sub-date, especially the improved 116610LN. I own both (14060M and the 116610LN) and personally I prefer the 16610LN. No question about it.

PS: The cyclop is stuck to the crystal by a very good rolex glue. If the cyclop bothers you more than your Rolex losing its value or the cystal getting chipped, I believe you can try removing the cyclop by exposing the cyclop to the blue flame from a hand-torch for a couple of seconds. It will normally fall off or you can flick it away with a pen knife. Haven't tried it myself though. Try it at your own risk of course.

RaymondT · « **Reply #22 on:** October 24, 2012, 08:41:20 PM »

Quote from: Enkidu on October 24, 2012, 08:11:10 PM

Quote from: Ball Lover on October 24, 2012, 07:14:40 PM
I prefer the date sub , its functional for me as i refer to the watch date all the time. Is there any particular reason alot of sifus here prefer the no date ?

Like Hanz said, the Submariner is more balanced and does not come with the cyclop which some people don't like.

But, if you are not obsessed with symmetry and do not have a problem with the cyclop, just go for the sub-date, especially the improved 116610LN. I own both (14060M and the 116610LN) and personally I prefer the 16610LN. No question about it.

PS: The cyclop is stuck to the crystal by a very good rolex glue. If the cyclop bothers you more than your Rolex losing its value or the cystal getting chipped, I believe you can try removing the cyclop by exposing the cyclop to the blue flame from a hand-torch for a couple of seconds. It will normally fall off or you can flick it away with a pen knife. Haven't tried it myself though. Try it at your own risk of course.

The no date actually looks cleaner , but mayb i have been surveying only the date sub , the no date 4 me felt like missing some details somewhere somehow

Thank you all the gurus / sifu for the advice ,:)

IWCking · « **Reply #23 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:29:23 PM »

I will go for Sub with date. Indeed, sub with date price tends to be higher than those without date.

hanz079 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:38:36 PM »

If I remember correctly, the newer 6 digit reference Rolex will have the underside of the cyclops coated with anti reflective coating.
Removing the cyclops will mean that there will be a mark on the crystal... does not look very good.

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Author Topic: PAM 00024 & Rollie Sub (Read 12554 times)