Author Topic: Paracrom Blu in 14060M (Read 21315 times)

bigkahuna · « **on:** July 16, 2012, 10:55:20 AM »

I’m not sure if this has already been discussed/confirmed here but I thought I’d share this information anyway. I’ve recently sent my Submariner 14060M random serial to Rolex Malaysia for a recalibration as it was running a little slower than it should and I thought since they were going to open my watch, I’ve asked them to confirm if my Sub has the new paracrom blu balance spring as there were many conflicting reports about it. Anyway, my curiosity has finally been put to rest today as Rolex confirmed that my random serial Sub is definitely running on the new paracrom springs. Hope this helps clear the air for those of you wondering about the same thing. Cheers!

ck77 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 16, 2012, 11:57:48 AM »

Read about it over the net.
Thanks for confirming its not a myth.

TheHobbit · « **Reply #2 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:21:19 PM »

Perhaps it is time to get one.....

pexus · « **Reply #3 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:24:07 PM »

thanks...was discussing about this too few weeks ago.....
so its real then....and congrats for having one!

tonykpk · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:51:40 PM »

A little info to share with fellow MWF ,starting from M serial that is post 2008 most sports model are equip with blue paracrom spring. It is more durable and a higher degree of anti magnetism ...

bigkahuna · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:13:03 PM »

Hi Tony, I believe you are referring to the GMT 16710 with the 3186 movement where it was rumored that the Z and M serial is with the paracrom springs.

However, for the submariner, the myth suggest that only the late G serial (2010) to random serial are the only ones with paracrom springs.

tonykpk · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2012, 08:20:29 AM »

yes it is , bigkahuna.but i'm not to sure about about the z serial. You can always check with Rc KL, phone them n give them your serial..The deepsea n daytona post 2008 are also equip with the blue paracrom spring.

tonykpk · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2012, 08:31:05 AM »

Im quite sure that all ceramic bezels subs are equip with blue paracrom springs..

SeaDwellerR · « **Reply #8 on:** July 17, 2012, 09:10:27 AM »

Fantastic news. Thanks for sharing

jacky8888 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 17, 2012, 11:13:23 AM »

how about 14060M v series?

ck77 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:08:02 PM »

Quote from: jacky8888 on July 17, 2012, 11:13:23 AM

how about 14060M v series?

Like bikahuna said, only late G serial (2010) to random serial are with paracrom blu spring.

jacky8888 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:24:16 PM »

sigh....

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hanz079 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:30:54 PM »

Quote from: jacky8888 on July 17, 2012, 01:24:16 PM

sigh.... ...

Dun worry bro, 4liner with 3130 movement is still one hell of a watch.
Unlike mine, ck, terrence and pexus punya... 2 liner with caliber 3000 movement... lol

tonykpk · « **Reply #13 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:33:25 PM »

Jacky pls call rolex center kl .,give them your watch serial n they will return a call with answers to your query..

TheHobbit · « **Reply #14 on:** July 17, 2012, 02:25:23 PM »

Just out of curiosity, does it really matter if the watch is not fitted with the Parachrom? Also how does one identify if ones watch is indeed fitted with the parachrom hairspring? The colour blue? Well, the parachrom hairspring was introduced in 2000 and it was not blue in colour. Let's enjoy the watch and not get caught with the technicalities.

ck77 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 17, 2012, 02:27:00 PM »

Quote from: TheHobbit on July 17, 2012, 02:25:23 PM

Just out of curiosity, does it really matter if the watch is not fitted with the Parachrom? Also how does one identify if ones watch is indeed fitted with the parachrom hairspring? The colour blue? Well, the parachrom hairspring was introduced in 2000 and it was not blue in colour. Let's enjoy the watch and not get caught with the technicalities.

My 2 liners cal 3000 is running within COSC spec.

bigkahuna · « **Reply #16 on:** July 17, 2012, 02:43:45 PM »

I agree with Hobbit and it shouldn’t really matter. I just want to shiok sendiri by knowing I have it but it doesn’t necessary mean that it’s better

. Anyway, here is an interesting read about this topic: http://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.htm

tonykpk · « **Reply #17 on:** July 17, 2012, 02:55:22 PM »

Of course it doesn't matter sir Hobbit , Rolex have been making watches without the blue paracrom springs for over a century and to have one with is a bonus. Conventional hair spring are made of ferromagnetic alloys ,so they are more vulnerable to magnetic fields n shock. The blue parachrom spring is made of paramagnetic alloy, it won't be affected so easily by magnetic fields n it is 10 times more resistant to shocks..

TheHobbit · « **Reply #18 on:** July 17, 2012, 03:31:30 PM »

Quote from: tonykpk on July 17, 2012, 02:55:22 PM

Of course it doesn't matter sir Hobbit , Rolex have been making watches without the blue paracrom springs for over a century and to have one with is a bonus. Conventional hair spring are made of ferromagnetic alloys ,so they are more vulnerable to magnetic fields n shock. The blue parachrom spring is made of paramagnetic alloy, it won't be affected so easily by magnetic fields n it is 10 times more resistant to shocks..

I am all for advancement in watch technology but there are times the advancements are taken out of context.

dpkong · « **Reply #19 on:** July 17, 2012, 05:17:04 PM »

Quote from: tonykpk on July 17, 2012, 02:55:22 PM

Of course it doesn't matter sir Hobbit , Rolex have been making watches without the blue paracrom springs for over a century and to have one with is a bonus. Conventional hair spring are made of ferromagnetic alloys ,so they are more vulnerable to magnetic fields n shock. The blue parachrom spring is made of paramagnetic alloy, it won't be affected so easily by magnetic fields n it is 10 times more resistant to shocks..

you're worried about the spring being affected by magnetic fields but not about the other hundreds of parts in there that might?

while Rolex is saying the new parachrom is much better than the older navarox, they didn't give actual figures of how much improvement it actually was.... a 1% improvement is still an improvement....

Gigi · « **Reply #20 on:** July 17, 2012, 08:32:24 PM »

I was caught out with the parachrome spring fever when i was looking for 14060m sub. Was thinking about for some time and i decide to get a 2003 14060m sub instead. Save me some dough on the way, was shocked to see the current new 14060m price in ad's

tonykpk · « **Reply #21 on:** July 17, 2012, 08:51:15 PM »

hi Dpkong , in its sales catalog it states clearly that it is 10 times more resistant to shock.

dpkong · « **Reply #22 on:** July 17, 2012, 10:20:12 PM »

Quote from: tonykpk on July 17, 2012, 08:51:15 PM

hi Dpkong , in its sales catalog it states clearly that it is 10 times more resistant to shock.

what kind of shock? the type that will kill the wearer but the watch lives on? sales catalog are what they are.. to create sales...

in the end, the buyer will have to decide if the improvements are worth the asking price or if they are of any real benefit to the user. FWIW, my M series 16570 and V series 116523 would/should have the parachrom and my 16523 might not. it doesn't bother me what spring is in there and with the recent usage, i find that the 116523 being very new is losing seconds and needs some adjustment. the 16523 and 16570 is keeping very good time despite how it's worn.

tonykpk · « **Reply #23 on:** July 18, 2012, 07:55:01 AM »

In watches when we say shock it means dropping your watch from low levels, every day use vibration like working with tools. Im no md to tell you what kind of shock can kill.

hanz079 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 18, 2012, 06:38:21 PM »

Quote from: ck77 on July 17, 2012, 02:27:00 PM

Quote from: TheHobbit on July 17, 2012, 02:25:23 PM
Just out of curiosity, does it really matter if the watch is not fitted with the Parachrom? Also how does one identify if ones watch is indeed fitted with the parachrom hairspring? The colour blue? Well, the parachrom hairspring was introduced in 2000 and it was not blue in colour. Let's enjoy the watch and not get caught with the technicalities.

My 2 liners cal 3000 is running within COSC spec.

Mine is running on COSC specs as well.
I think most rolexes on nivarox spring is just fine.
Wouldn't hurt if it comes with parachrom blu though.
I am not sure if the premium is justified.
There is a way to get a parachrom blu in my watch, just purposely damage the current spring in my sub, send it for repair and Rolex will replace it with a parachrom blu.
I have no idea how much it costs but the parachrom blu can fit in any existing rolex movements with no problems.

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Author Topic: Paracrom Blu in 14060M (Read 21315 times)