Planning to get a new panerai.... Advice n info needed

[kentkoh79]

Currently planning to get a panerai  after owning a  rolex sea dweller  and tt GMT IIC.... Model that are interested including  000, 005, 111,112, 183 and 312. Any advice from sifus as a beginner in panerai? Any ADs currently hav available stock for models mentioned above ?? Thanks....

[pexus]

I don't have a Pam and my knowledge certainly cannot be compared to some of the knowledgable Ristians here...

but since I've had the privilege of learning from them freely, here's me trying to return the favor to others...

1. look at the `base' models.  The 000 and 112 are the most popular and affordable base models.  It seems that no matter what Pam collectors have, they will always have one base model.  In fact, there is an interesting thread somewhere in this forum with a poll on which model is more popular

2.  Are second hands important to you? From what I read, some find it a must (to see if their watch is ticking).  To some, it makes the dial looks busy.  If you can decide on this, then it will narrow down your choices

3.  Sandwich or painted dial.  Both are beautiful and from what I read, its really up to the preference of the owner

4.  Do you want to see the movement? If yes, it will further narrow down your choices....I think they call it solid case back vs display

5.  check out the gallery and review section in this forum.  Killer pics and reviews available. 

[GlySinn]

I think u wont go wrong with any of the models that u mentioned. 
Except for the 312, all of em are using 3rd party movements. Also the 312 has the easier strap change system, which makes it harder for u to scratch yr Pam when u change straps.
Get the one tat comes your way and u feel syiok about it. The one that makes your heartbeat a little faster . 

[G.MAC]

a lot of this type of question in regards to the base models have been answered. You just have to go through them in the general discussion or via the search function. You will see that the 000 or the 112 are the more popular models. Unless you dont like the handwinding ones and more keen of an auto that the 312 is the model for you.As for whether the AD have them, the only way is to pay them a visit. Even if there is no stock, you could put your name down on the waiting list.

[Godzillaz]

000. The rest you will end up getting variation of them but 000 stand on its own. No substitute unless you go PreV which is a BMW(bloody mahal watch).

I would get the 000 as my 1st unless you want to go PreV.

Regards
Tyler

Currently planning to get a panerai  after owning a  rolex sea dweller  and tt GMT IIC.... Model that are interested including  000, 005, 111,112, 183 and 312. Any advice from sifus as a beginner in panerai? Any ADs currently hav available stock for models mentioned above ?? Thanks....

[kentkoh79]

Thanks bro pexus, glysinn and g. Mac for giving info.... I think i personnally prefer 312.... Not only for the 1950 case but also the in house movement... Although someone previouslly at other forum did mentioned that this new movement is not that stable. But the current price for 111 which is nearly 20k with just ETA movement.... This a little bit held me back and need to think twice the problem for me is that i am not from kl.... So... This is not possible for me to pay visit to look for the models at various ADs within 1 day.... Hopefully any bro those always pay visit to ADs can inform me whether those models are available or not ... If yes which AD? And max discount?

[gloomis]

i will say 000 o 111. just choose between this 2 to start journey to pams. slowly u will know what u want from there.....

if still cant make the choice then please join our pam gtg in coming june. u will have a clearer picture about pams

good luck.

[MadZiZ]

If your heart sings for a 312 then just go for it, later onwards when you get Pam crazy then a base will also tend to be in your collection. In actuality any Pam will be nice once you know the history behind the brand. Sorry just a noob opinion though unlike many of the Ristis here.....

[famouscool]

Sunway Giza has 112 and 000.... I took the 005 de last Friday....

[TheHobbit]

Get the one that sings to you. If it is the PAM00312, so be it. You re the one that is going to wear the watch and you are the only person the watch has to impress.

[G.MAC]

I have the PAM 351 which shares the same movement as the PAM312 with the difference being gold hands, tobacco dial and titanium case. As for the movement, there is no problems with mine so far. Only thing having a display caseback, makes it prone to magnetisation. Other than that, it is going on strong. Try looking at the Panerai site for the list of AD. As per forum rules, we cant discuss discounts here although i can safely say that discounts for Panerai, like Rolex, is extremely low and the prices are generally very stiff.

[ericer]

I have the PAM 359 same movment as PAM312. So far so good......

[zameenzahari]

We ristis say zero the hero..nothing like a zero to start your PAM journey. It is in essence what the DNA of panerai is..big, clean, simple

Zero the Hero!

[gloomis]

We ristis say zero the hero..nothing like a zero to start your PAM journey. It is in essence what the DNA of panerai is..big, clean, simple

Zero the Hero!

  good one.....fully support u. A Zero is always a Hero 

[G.MAC]

Zero is always the starting point anyway. 0,1,2,3,4....

[Friday]

^^ What G.Mac said.

But mind you next you'll start thinking; now i need a sec counter then what about a date, would be nice to have a 1950 case maybe a radiomir how about boutique edition 

Be prepared once bitten no more turning back 

Which ever pam you'll choose.. You will enjoy it dearly.. 

[SubFoo]

Among those models u mentioned the 111 moves me the most.... Mainly because it has a see thru case back and sandwich dial with manual winding.... Means u will need to wind/molest it every couple of days while admiring the mechanism with the see thru case back..... With the seconds hands u will know that ur watch is still working!!! Good luck with ur choice and post some pics when u get it....

[Godzillaz]

Yep. Once you been to Paris you can never go back to the farm.

Regards
Tyler

^^ What G.Mac said.

But mind you next you'll start thinking; now i need a sec counter then what about a date, would be nice to have a 1950 case maybe a radiomir how about boutique edition 

Be prepared once bitten no more turning back 

Which ever pam you'll choose.. You will enjoy it dearly.. 

[famouscool]

Got your PAM already??

[kentkoh79]

Got your PAM already??

not yet la.....only will go to KL end of may ... hopefully can get the model that i prefer.....i will sapu any models like 005 , 111 0r 112 if available at any watch shop ..ha !

[MadZiZ]

Good luck once bitten you will be looking forward towards the next Pam and the story never ends lol 

[TheGr8One]

Dear sifus,
What do you guys think about 177 (Luminor Marina Titanio with seconds hand)?
I initially plan to go for 104 (but open to the base classic models too), the AD only has 177 available. I don't really fancy the brown strap but the AD will happily swap for me.
I am indecisive, I don't really wanna pay a higher price for the Titanium case. I have 2 questions: -
* Generally what is the 2nd hand value attached with the 177? In case I grew less fond of it in the future and wishes to dispose it.
* What is the major difference between a 005 and a 177?

Many thanks in advance.

[dsiewmy]

Dear sifus,
What do you guys think about 177 (Luminor Marina Titanio with seconds hand)?
I initially plan to go for 104 (but open to the base classic models too), the AD only has 177 available. I don't really fancy the brown strap but the AD will happily swap for me.
I am indecisive, I don't really wanna pay a higher price for the Titanium case. I have 2 questions: -
* Generally what is the 2nd hand value attached with the 177? In case I grew less fond of it in the future and wishes to dispose it.
* What is the major difference between a 005 and a 177?

Many thanks in advance.

i think you need to know if you want to go after a automatic with date or a manual winding watch.
because you're now choosing between 2 very different watches.

as for 2nd hand, they are both about the same, but of cos one may be easier to sell as it's deem more practical than the other (to some).

major differences
<177> titanium, manual winding, clear caseback, gator with tangbuckle, sandwich dial

<005> steel, manual winding, steel solid caseback, calf with tang buckle, painted dial, +logo

<104> steel, automatic with date, steel solid caseback, gator with deployment, painted dial

[Godzillaz]

If you worry about second hand value then you should just seek a 000. The price is more stable. Always a watch I would buy if I am starting going into panerai. I didn't because I have already plan out my collection with a theme.

Ask your AD for the 000 you might have to press them because it's a hot seller. If anything fail seek help from bro dsiewmy or CKNg515 to see whether they can locate one for you at cheaper price. 

Regards
Tyler

Dear sifus,
What do you guys think about 177 (Luminor Marina Titanio with seconds hand)?
I initially plan to go for 104 (but open to the base classic models too), the AD only has 177 available. I don't really fancy the brown strap but the AD will happily swap for me.
I am indecisive, I don't really wanna pay a higher price for the Titanium case. I have 2 questions: -
* Generally what is the 2nd hand value attached with the 177? In case I grew less fond of it in the future and wishes to dispose it.
* What is the major difference between a 005 and a 177?

Many thanks in advance.

[Bobo Chia (Risen)]

If you're don't mind about hand winding.. Just go for the Pam 000!
With the logo that look so nice!