project watch - Y so tough for Malaysian !

[rusminag]

At least he/she has a LE 1/1 watch.... dont be upset...

[Godzillaz]

... sigh ... not an LE 1/1 but a 0 because it's only a prototype.

and some bad taste in the mouth because he/she has been taken for a ride.

I'm not upset just disappointed.

Regards
Tyler

At least he/she has a LE 1/1 watch.... dont be upset...

[rusminag]

... sigh ... not an LE 1/1 but a 0 because it's only a prototype.

and some bad taste in the mouth because he/she has been taken for a ride.

I'm not upset just disappointed.

Regards
Tyler

At least he/she has a LE 1/1 watch.... dont be upset...

I meant a working sample unit.... not a dummy prototype...
LE 1/1 should worth something in the latter years....

[chrisyen]

to be fair in this

u want a unique watch... i also want a unique watch
the unique watch u want and the unique watch i want can be very different.

so to convince me to want the unique watch u want to do

at least u need to tell me
1. how is it going to look like
2. how much its going to cost
3. what sort of time frame are we expecting

more so if u want me to pay before you have the watch make later!

and

now do you see why MWF do not allow you and previous ppl to use MWF name on project watch.... because MWF cant responsible for your doing!

No, what we really need to make a decision not someone with resources. A prototype is a waste of time if no one really want a project watch in the 1st place.

I understand the need to know, it's human nature. However sometimes we have to be realistic. Who are you going to ask to do the prototype? Who's going to pay for it (yes it does cost money)?

All those work for what? To convince us that we need a project watch?

Well ... ... I don't see the reason to move even 1 step further because a project watch is a passion of wanting a unique watch that represent a community. If someone need convincing maybe then the community isn't that important to the person.

Again I might sound upset which I think I'm slowly heading to that direction.

But deep down I just wish more of us would really want a project watch and willing to go the distance.

Sorry to take it out on you. Really sorry:Praying:

Regards
Tyler

That would cost a lot resources. A prototype before getting in the numbers of people is like a death wish.

Wait and see attitude is for observing disaster not for going into an adventure. For that we need faith.

The potential frustration and wrongs turn on a project watch is plenty. If is that easy then it won't take this long and we should bought 3 instead of ending up with none.

I hope I've not offend you in anyway. This are just some of the thoughts and hurdle when starting a project watch.

Regards
Tyler

 

Anybody wants to build a prototype? Members can sample it during GTG.

Yes.. We need somebody with these resources...

[rusminag]

If we want to go for 100 units.... All committed need to put deposit of at least RM1k per unit. So the total sum collected will be RM100k. We need to have the sum deposited into an account that entrusted to the Project Manager(Bro Chrisyen maybe). The Project Manager will release the money once requested by the watch developer (Bro Hobbit maybe...). For the design, have to hire a watch Designer that will come out with the drawings and details based on inputs from all the buyers.... Maybe then it will happen...

[famouscool]

I can't draw, I am not rich, I a noob in watches... but I can commit ... so your 40++ now 40++ + 1. 

[G.MAC]

the whole issue always boils down to money. People will back off when the sum is too big. But then, they would pick on the design of the watch, movement etc as the main factor. Commitment is the biggest issue here. And with deposits, the issue would be on the trust in the moneyholder. A lot of factors have to be taken into account. Bro Tyler is also right. Making a prototype just for people to oogle, drool, molest but in the end still not commit to the purchase would make the fellow feel like he was taken for a ride. That feeling plus the time,effort and cost incurred as well. And no a 1 LE is of no value if it is from an unknown manufacturer and if no one wants it. Value is pre-determined by the demand for an item. Also, what price would you attach to it when there is no standard or precedent to be based upon?

[Godzillaz]

To clarify the topic a bit.

I'm trying to solicit view and ideas what the member would like to see not something of one person's preference.

I don't want just a unique watch. I want a watch that represent the community. For that to happen many will have to put in effort to work out what the watch would look like.

I'm not trying to sell a watch so I don't need to convince anyone to like what I like or to buy the watch. If no one want one then that's it but at least do tell if you don't want one. Sitting on the fence poking is no fun for both party.

Regards
Tyler

to be fair in this

u want a unique watch... i also want a unique watch
the unique watch u want and the unique watch i want can be very different.

so to convince me to want the unique watch u want to do

at least u need to tell me
1. how is it going to look like
2. how much its going to cost
3. what sort of time frame are we expecting

more so if u want me to pay before you have the watch make later!

and

now do you see why MWF do not allow you and previous ppl to use MWF name on project watch.... because MWF cant responsible for your doing!

No, what we really need to make a decision not someone with resources. A prototype is a waste of time if no one really want a project watch in the 1st place.

I understand the need to know, it's human nature. However sometimes we have to be realistic. Who are you going to ask to do the prototype? Who's going to pay for it (yes it does cost money)?

All those work for what? To convince us that we need a project watch?

Well ... ... I don't see the reason to move even 1 step further because a project watch is a passion of wanting a unique watch that represent a community. If someone need convincing maybe then the community isn't that important to the person.

Again I might sound upset which I think I'm slowly heading to that direction.

But deep down I just wish more of us would really want a project watch and willing to go the distance.

Sorry to take it out on you. Really sorry:Praying:

Regards
Tyler

That would cost a lot resources. A prototype before getting in the numbers of people is like a death wish.

Wait and see attitude is for observing disaster not for going into an adventure. For that we need faith.

The potential frustration and wrongs turn on a project watch is plenty. If is that easy then it won't take this long and we should bought 3 instead of ending up with none.

I hope I've not offend you in anyway. This are just some of the thoughts and hurdle when starting a project watch.

Regards
Tyler

 

Anybody wants to build a prototype? Members can sample it during GTG.

Yes.. We need somebody with these resources...

[rusminag]

Bro Tyler,

The last project watch discussions:
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,3232.0.html
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,3254.msg32284.html#msg32284

For your reference....

[chrisyen]

which community and member r u referring to?   

since you are not allow to use malaysiawatchforum name for your private project watch, hence your project watch should not have represent the community/member of malaysiawatchforum!

I'm trying to solicit view and ideas what the member would like to see not something of one person's preference.

I want a watch that represent the community.

[famouscool]

malaysiawatchforum is a forum... we can always give another name for the community for example: GWM (Gila watch malaysia  )

Then we are separating the forum and the community.... just my 0.00 cent thought (since they round up 0.02 cents!!)

[khanwooi]

my personally thinking

if you all want to do a watch project, i rather maybe chrisyen you find some kaki maybe 1-4
then just 4 of you who really into it, then you all come out you own design then make it watch out.
the quantity out maybe will be alot let say 100pcs, then sell it

maybe in the MWF merchant maybe you can make a special mark representing this watch, i think if the price reasonable and it unique there will always some supporter in MWF will buy from you, then you will recover back your money.

i will call this putting your own interest into business. you got your interest and dream come true, you earn money.

actually you can do it on your own, think about it.
it very hard complicated if doing in group, many decision many opinion that why u say so many watch project fail.

[terrenceterrence]

Dude, you are akin them to commit their own money make a watch and sell?

Then that would be called a business. No one in their right mind would commit a couple of thousand dollars and tie down the funds for a couple of months to a year with hopes of clearing the stock for fickle minded forummers without some markup as a security and profit.

That would beat the whole purpose and spirit of the forum community. It's money upfront by interested party or no go. If it screws up we are in the same boat. Like that only call togetherness mar.

my personally thinking

if you all want to do a watch project, i rather maybe chrisyen you find some kaki maybe 1-4
then just 4 of you who really into it, then you all come out you own design then make it watch out.
the quantity out maybe will be alot let say 100pcs, then sell it

maybe in the MWF merchant maybe you can make a special mark representing this watch, i think if the price reasonable and it unique there will always some supporter in MWF will buy from you, then you will recover back your money.

i will call this putting your own interest into business. you got your interest and dream come true, you earn money.

actually you can do it on your own, think about it.
it very hard complicated if doing in group, many decision many opinion that why u say so many watch project fail.

[hanz079]

Dude, you are akin them to commit their own money make a watch and sell?

Then that would be called a business. No one in their right mind would commit a couple of thousand dollars and tie down the funds for a couple of months to a year with hopes of clearing the stock for fickle minded forummers without some markup as a security and profit.

That would beat the whole purpose and spirit of the forum community. It's money upfront by interested party or no go. If it screws up we are in the same boat. Like that only call togetherness mar.

my personally thinking

if you all want to do a watch project, i rather maybe chrisyen you find some kaki maybe 1-4
then just 4 of you who really into it, then you all come out you own design then make it watch out.
the quantity out maybe will be alot let say 100pcs, then sell it

maybe in the MWF merchant maybe you can make a special mark representing this watch, i think if the price reasonable and it unique there will always some supporter in MWF will buy from you, then you will recover back your money.

i will call this putting your own interest into business. you got your interest and dream come true, you earn money.

actually you can do it on your own, think about it.
it very hard complicated if doing in group, many decision many opinion that why u say so many watch project fail.

Yup... no one no matter how loaded will tie in their own money for 100pcs stock of watches.
At 1.5k each... that's 150k... cash...
All for passion and interest? It's abit too much for anyone.
Terrence is right, either money up front by interested parties or it's a no go...

[takashi78]

LOL this thread should be discussing bout why is it so tough making project watch but then turn into the ACTUAL project watch discussion.

Better stay on topic guys if not become confusing.

[Godzillaz]

Well ... as much as I hate to but I do have to admit you got me there. 

I can't use MWF and what's a community watch when I can't write the name of the place where the member hang out. 

Sad but true.

I understand starting a project watch involving the forum is especially tricky.
 
Regards
Tyler

which community and member r u referring to?   

since you are not allow to use malaysiawatchforum name for your private project watch, hence your project watch should not have represent the community/member of malaysiawatchforum!

I'm trying to solicit view and ideas what the member would like to see not something of one person's preference.

I want a watch that represent the community.

[SonnyCooL]

Well ... as much as I hate to but I do have to admit you got me there. 

I can't use MWF and what's a community watch when I can write the name of the place where the member hang out. 

Sad but true.

I understand starting a project watch involving the forum is especially tricky.
 
Regards
Tyler

which community and member r u referring to?   

since you are not allow to use malaysiawatchforum name for your private project watch, hence your project watch should not have represent the community/member of malaysiawatchforum!

I'm trying to solicit view and ideas what the member would like to see not something of one person's preference.

I want a watch that represent the community.

why can't use ? not open mind enough ?

Most malaysian is not that rich to enjoy Art piece ...

[terrenceterrence]

There would be a lot of bad blood and grievances if anything should go wrong.

Warranty issues, money issues.... After a couple of Kx100 that would be around 6 digits. So how trustworthy is everyone. After all we are just a few characters on the screen to each other.

Also even if we only pay direct to manufacturer and they themselves commit to the warranty issues, how sure are all of us that everyone would not "mouth say, penis feels good" when the time comes to wiring the money to manufacturer?

You can understand why the moderators are so reluctant to drag the name of the forum into such project.

A "brothers" watch would be plausible but a forum watch may be not at the moment.

[Gigi]

Ehhh, if wanna talk abt the project watch better continue on the original topic... Like Takashi said, it turning into another project watch discussion 

[chrisyen]

Actually it can be more serious than just warranty or runaway money...

Let say one big brand found the project watch copied their design... Or any special technical ip belongs to them... They will sue Mwf for sure...

Anyway
Godzillaz - u hv my respect for trying to make things happen... Pushing a special watch that can represent the community here...

Lets meet up n talk one day... Without Mwf, v still can make some private project...

N I strongly believe, v r not far away from a Mwf project watch

[Godzillaz]

The respect is mutual. I got mad on some of the things you said but those are the truth. I have to deal with with these issues if the project watch/commmunity watch is going to come true.

Yeah let's talk. I'll pm you.

Regards
Tyler

Actually it can be more serious than just warranty or runaway money...

Let say one big brand found the project watch copied their design... Or any special technical ip belongs to them... They will sue Mwf for sure...

Anyway
Godzillaz - u hv my respect for trying to make things happen... Pushing a special watch that can represent the community here...

Lets meet up n talk one day... Without Mwf, v still can make some private project...

N I strongly believe, v r not far away from a Mwf project watch

[Angryrodent]

basic casing around 42-44mm (i would prefer 39 but i think the bigger would get more to join) go to a chinese companies doing one of em marina miltair with a request for one with a mwf dial... will not be great watch but it will be cheap and not many will have it