panerai pam 318 scandal

[bOcy]

hi, just read about it, you guys know about it??

http://watchfreeks.com/view_topic.php?id=22595&forum_id=75&jump_to=277863

[zameenzahari]

It's been going around for a few weeks since Neeraj posted about it on p.com . OP made an offer to all owners that it will swap the movement with the OPII movt if the owner wants to..."scandal" closed...

[gloomis]

is really a big surprise when i 1st read and saw the photo they post about the pam318. the calibre is totally not acceptable, dont even wan to spent time n cost on detailing. I read it in watchbus taiwan. already know pam is not selling the movement but at least make some minor afford on the calibre as consumer is spending so much on the watch.

[takashi78]

So which movement will PAM switch to for the owners?

[G.MAC]

the OPII movement as mentioned by bro zameen

[Watchnewby]

Does this means that Panerai is using sub-par movement while mantaining the selling price and making huge profit out of it?

[ck77]

So far that's no official explanation from Panerai/Richmont yet.

[hanz079]

Does this means that Panerai is using sub-par movement while mantaining the selling price and making huge profit out of it?

Ermm... yes?

So far that's no official explanation from Panerai/Richmont yet.

No explanation and I don't expect to see any either.

Some comments that I read on the other forums surprises me, some even go to the extent of backing panerai on things like they don't care about the movements, it's a tool watch, good move that they are changing the movements and etc...
But let's face it... this is NOT supposed to happen in the 1st place.
And out of the 150 units involved, how many do you think will get the movements changed?
I am guessing besides the usual active WIS, most will not even know about this "scandal"... sad...

[Watchnewby]

Yes, besides the hardcore WIS of Panerai stock, this scandal will not be known to the rest.
Anyway, my take is that this should not happen in the first instance. Panerai is also known as a well reputable watch brand and should not go to this extent.
I can only imagine if Roleks watches using external movement (not in-house one) which will create a lot of ruckus in the world. 

[TheHobbit]

This should not have happened in the first place. I do not question the choice of movement used in the first place. It was stated up front that the movement used in the watch was different, OP29, from the rest and that the movement does not come with the COSC. The fact that Panerai made a mistake in the subsequent catalogue did not help the situation. Also the mistake made in the owners manual on the choice of shock protection system used added to it.

For me, it is pride in what you do and that is by at least signing the movement. Something they did not do.

Did Panerai set up to 'cheat' the customers? I don't think so.It was a mistake on their part (among many others) but I attribute it to part and parcel of growing up, perhaps to fast. I am sure they will learn from it and perhaps learn more then just this but other things that they have done and also the way they handle this situation. I am sure there is a way to address the matter netter and also how to inform the owners in general.

Other brands have also made mistakes along the way and have (some yet) learnt from these mistakes.

Anyway from what I am reading, most of the people who knows about this is not planning to change out the movement. A memento perhaps of how Panerai made a mistake. Who knows.

[siodee]

Anyway from what I am reading, most of the people who knows about this is not planning to change out the movement. A memento perhaps of how Panerai made a mistake. Who knows.

You hinted that they purposely do it, so it can be "goreng" in the future??

[Watchnewby]

Anyway from what I am reading, most of the people who knows about this is not planning to change out the movement. A memento perhaps of how Panerai made a mistake. Who knows.

Hobbit,
You may be right in that sense. Just like the rare bank notes with some "mistake" or stamps with unusual or funny prints.

[bOcy]

Hi,

Really can't find explanation on why the movement came unfinished, or is it the norm for non-display case backs?

I also read posts that take the watch as 'rare' error that could become collectible.

From the photos i can appreciate the difference good finishing can make.

Now I wonder what the valjoux movement inside my portuguese chrono looks like, it does not have exhibition case back  I might not be able to face the truth~

[bryankwc]

Did Panerai set up to 'cheat' the customers? I don't think so.It was a mistake on their part (among many others) but I attribute it to part and parcel of growing up, perhaps to fast. 

Panerai is now part of a business corporation whose main objective is profits.
I think this happened becos some bright spark thought of a way to add to the bottom line, and in most cases it was a good idea.
However, the Pam brand & popularity is fueled by WIS & purist - not your everyday simpleton (no disrespect meant - I'm one of these simpletons, anyway  ) who wears a watch just to tell time.
There was a kinda similar blowup with Tag Heuer claiming the Seiko-innovated movement as their own in-house one.
Power to the people! & the WIS!!!
Take care, Ciao!

[Scott C.]

Now I wonder what the valjoux movement inside my portuguese chrono looks like, it does not have exhibition case back  I might not be able to face the truth~

Your prot chrono is 7750 with 5 position adjusted by IWC  no need to worry, i have the same movement in classic pilot series work accurately