thanks all for recommending my sales thread.
basically these are the RRP:
PAM 380 - 13800
PAM 210 - 17200
PAM 183 - 18600
the typical discount for 210 and 183 is xx% depending on AD.
PAM 380 on the other hand is going nett price at AD, but premium at grey dealers (14.5k~14.9k).
reason is becos they are pricing it together with 000 which is same price.
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