Arguments for and against Rolex

[hanz079]

Correct me if I am wrong but I heard from a friend that Rolex watches are the only watches that you can change the date irregardless of the hour hand position.
Any truth to this?
As I recall, it's better not to change date when the dour hand is at certain time of the day as the date change mechanism is already engaged so if any adjustments made during the time will "hurt" the movement.

Erm... no answers on the above? 

[takashi78]

NOT true.
Same rules apply.

[pexus]

he wore a Rolex and got robbed....inside prison...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3738566/Jailed-MP-Elliot-Morley-is-robbed-of-watch.html

[Sid Vicious]

Cool way to wear a Rolex: GQ mag Aug 2011

[dpkong]

Correct me if I am wrong but I heard from a friend that Rolex watches are the only watches that you can change the date irregardless of the hour hand position.
Any truth to this?
As I recall, it's better not to change date when the dour hand is at certain time of the day as the date change mechanism is already engaged so if any adjustments made during the time will "hurt" the movement.

i'm not quite sure what the question is about but you might be referring to quickset date function.

as to changing the date when the hour hands are at certain positions "hurting" the movement, it believe it does not apply to Rolex movements.

BTW, you should have asked on a new topic and not piggy-back here since it's not really related to this thread.

[sshark]

This is the norm here. Members piggy back on others instead of starting a new thread. it makes it difficult to search for content based on the the subject.

[brolex]

I can see that feature being seen either as a pro or con, I suppose.  *shrugs*

[dpkong]

Should have added that piggyback posts won't get much response due to thread title alone.

[Cocas]

Note:I dont create this all by myself,just happen to find this over askmen.com. Thought sharing with you all and lastly no offense to who love rolex

Arguments against Rolex

Rolex Movements Are Over-Hyped
First, the movement quality of your run-of-the-mill Rolex is nothing special. In fact, many much more affordable Swiss watches use movements that keep time just as well. To add insult to injury, there are even some Chinese, Japanese and Russian movements that are just as -- if not more -- accurate as a standard Rolex movement.

Rolex Watches Look Stale
Rolex’s designs are stale. This brand hasn’t released a truly new model in over a decade, and the majority of the watches it makes today are exact duplicates of the watches it made half a century ago. In fact, the biggest innovation it has made in recent years is a new metal called “Rolesor,” which is heavily advertised as a great new substance for watchmaking. Guess what; it’s just steel and gold.

Rolex Stories Are Nothing But A Myth
All those stories you hear about Rolexes being chosen as the watch for great adventures are only half true. For example, Rolex claims Sir Edmund Hillary wore an Explorer when he scaled the summit of Mount Everest for the first time. This is not the case. In fact, he only carried the Explorer until he reached the summit and then put on a watch from a small British company called Smiths. Hillary even wrote a signed letter endorsement to Smiths stating: “I carried your watch to the summit and it worked perfectly.” Rolex also submitted a watch to NASA in the early ‘60s to be considered for use in the moon missions. We all know how that turned out.

Rolex Watches Are For Seniors Or Rappers
It is rare for a brand to be considered both stodgy and lame and ghetto fabulous at the very same time, yet Rolex has done it. If you ask one person on the street what they think of Rolex, they’ll tell you their elderly grandfather wears one in between rounds of golf and his daily 2 p.m. nap. If you ask another, they’ll tell you the only people that wear Rolexes are athletes and rappers. So which are you, a sleepy 85-year-old bald man or an 18-year-old athlete from the hood trying to prove his worth to the world?

Rolex Watches Are For Posers
If you are not one of the two groups mentioned above, wearing a Rolex oozes desperation. Yes, a Rolex is the most recognizable watch on the planet -- now is that supposed to be a good thing? Young men that don a Rolex are perceived as self-absorbed, insecure and image-obsessed by those around them. Essentially, you just look like a douche. Be confident enough in yourself and in your sense of style that you don’t need to be wearing a veritable calling card of the nouveau riche.

Arguments for Rolex
Rolex Watches Are Classic
You’ll see below that most Rolex watches are archetypes: The Rolex Submariner is the classic diver’s watch, The Rolex Datejust is the classic formal men’s watch of the last half century and The Rolex Daytona is the classic sports chronograph. Rolex has benefited from keeping its product line simple and consistent. Instead of releasing brand new models, it keeps refining existing designs. This is extremely important because each watch contains the suggestions and wearing experiences of countless people who together have helped create timepieces that look good and work well.

Take the Rolex Submariner line as an example. Based on the classic “Oyster” water-resistant watch cases, the timepiece is specifically designed to be easy to read in most conditions, to be hardy and have a comfortable and reliable construction. The Submariner design has achieved an almost impossible task: to look good on almost every person, on any occasion, regardless of age or outfit. Other Rolex watches edge close to this ideal as well. You have to ask yourself the question of whether that is due to something about the design of these watches or rather because we have been seeing them on important wrists our whole lives, and they simply mentally fit these positive watch stereotypes.

James Bond Wore A Rolex
Omega doesn’t want you to know this, but the original James Bond watch was a Rolex Submariner. Creator Ian Fleming wrote that Bond was wearing the timepiece, while Sean Connery in the role brandished his Submariner proudly. Countless actors, celebrities and politicians have also been known to be Rolex men. Take the popular line of Paul Newman Daytona watches, or the Rolex Day-Date nicknamed the “President,” because many U.S. presidents (and otherwise) during the 20th century were known to wear the watch. Wearing a Rolex and being associated with these people and personalities can hardly be described as something you’d want to avoid. 

Rolex Watches Are The Ultimate Status Symbol
Wearing a Rolex watch communicates to people that you are successful enough to have rewarded yourself with the luxury of a nice watch. Rolex watches are not the only luxury watches out there by far, but they are the most well-known. From basic entry-level luxury models to diamond-encrusted gold watches for the ultra-privileged, a Rolex is so much more than a mere timepiece. It is a statement about your way of life and taste. Some people take it even further; the world of aftermarket Rolex watches feature decorated brims and jewel encrusted designs, suggesting that telling time becomes a mere afterthought.
 
Other watches also want to be like Rolex, whose designs are the most copied the world over. Most of these watches legitimize “homage” timepieces with a different brand name, but there is of course the dark underworld of fakes as well. You’ll find at least a little of Rolex design in the majority of nice watches out there. So, even if you don’t have a watch with the Rolex name, chances are there is a bit of Rolex influence. You can’t deny that even if Rolex watch designs don’t move you, a big part of you wants one.

Rolex Watches Have Excellent Movements
Being a company that makes all of its own parts (rare in the watch world), it goes without saying that Rolex makes each of its own movements (historically, this was not always the case), excluding other watch companies from using Rolex mechanical movements. While Rolex is not known in the modern sense for having particularly complex movements (it offers basic watches with features such as the time, date, day, or a chronograph), it is preferred by watch makers to work on being so well designed, easy to fix and highly reliable. As such, almost every Rolex movement sold is COSC certified Chronometer attesting to its accuracy.

Rolex Watches Hold Value
Among the few truly collectible watch brands from a value perspective are Rolex timepieces. It has been said that you can buy a new Rolex Submariner today, wear it for five years, and then sell it in good condition for close to the original purchase price. Like cars, most other watches lose a chunk of their value after being sized and put on a buyer’s wrist. There are also the investment-grade Rolex watches that achieve stellar auction results yielding some of the most impressive prices ever known at an auction. This is due to the power behind the Rolex name and brand, as well as the world’s fervor for these “gold standard” super watches.

A simple guy like me with small earning.
For Rolex: They are beautiful.
Against Rolex: The selling price and service cost are pricey.

[adamjohari]

Rolex is a good watch. It's a tool watch that can be worn everyday.

The only thing that sucks is that everyone has one and you aren't unique. You go to any wedding and you'll see so many people with Rolex. There's nothing wrong with liking a Rolex, just the same as many people enjoy the Beatles or Michael Jackson. Keep in mind they make 800k watches a year.

But if you're a wis who likes movement and finishing, the history of watchmaking, you'll likely won't be a Rolex fan. I don't see the late George Daniels, RW Smith, Journe etc owning a Rolex. I've seen them own vintage Omega, Heuer and JLC.

I also find the marketing of Rolex quite deplorable. Where they get people like John Mayer giving rave reviews saying that the new Daytona is actually 10k usd more than the retail, have Federer rubbing his hands like a kid getting candy, etc.

[theseira]

For Rolex the pic above. Enough said.

Btw FPJ also recommend in an interview if budget around 10k usd go for Rolex.


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[adamjohari]

He did recommend it. And the interviewer laughed a bit. To which Journe had to say again that it was a good tool watch.

The Daytona you bought is lovely. But you didn't pay 10k USD above the retail for it right?

I prefer the older Daytonas with less lines and Panda eyes though. Same with the Subs, the 5513 is my more ideal sub.

[adamjohari]

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/that-time-revolution-asked-roger-smith-kari-voutilainen-laurent-ferrier-and-philippe-dufour-what-watch-theyd-recommend-for-under-10000

a good read. the masters have spoken!

but on Roger Smith's instagram, you can see that he owns an Omega Seamaster and a vintage Heuer. The late G Daniels had a JLC Mark XI.

[theseira]

He did recommend it. And the interviewer laughed a bit. To which Journe had to say again that it was a good tool watch.

The Daytona you bought is lovely. But you didn't pay 10k USD above the retail for it right?

I prefer the older Daytonas with less lines and Panda eyes though. Same with the Subs, the 5513 is my more ideal sub.

Ok for Rolex:
a lot of Vintage pieces are extremely desirable and prices are reflected by auction results.

Against Rolex:
Franken and Re-Dials for the vintage pieces. Makes it difficult for the non experts to acquire one.

PS:
I got mine at retail. No way I would pay over retail for Daytona C. I don't think the premiums could last in this economy. Markets are collapsing. And I prefer vintage subs and daytonas too.

[Cocas]

Correct me if I am wrong but I heard from a friend that Rolex watches are the only watches that you can change the date irregardless of the hour hand position.
Any truth to this?
As I recall, it's better not to change date when the dour hand is at certain time of the day as the date change mechanism is already engaged so if any adjustments made during the time will "hurt" the movement.

Erm... no answers on the above? 

My Explorer II 16570 changing is by moving the hour hand. Yes, I think this is true at least for my Explorer.

[TheHobbit]

Why Rolex?



Great build quality, easy to service, easy to move (if have to), reliable

And not something you will see very often in the wild either.

[adamjohari]

Not see very often? 

[TheHobbit]

Not see very often? 

Should have made it clearer, in reference to the watch in the photo.

[sshark]

Great build quality, easy to service, easy to move (if have to), reliable

And not something you will see very often in the wild either.

Easy to move? I presume you mean resale every watch is easy to move hahhahah

[theseira]

Not see very often? 

Should have made it clearer, in reference to the watch in the photo.

That's a beauty! I haven't seen that in the wild also only saw the silver/plat dial version.

[TheHobbit]

Great build quality, easy to service, easy to move (if have to), reliable

And not something you will see very often in the wild either.

Easy to move? I presume you mean resale every watch is easy to move hahhahah

[TheHobbit]

Not see very often? 

Should have made it clearer, in reference to the watch in the photo.

That's a beauty! I haven't seen that in the wild also only saw the silver/plat dial version.

More so since this watch is not what you think it is.

[cwss_my]

well... when we discuss about watches.... rolex will always be on the list!

[tonykpk]

Imagine a collector without at a piece of  rolex. No doubt the Daytona have one of the very best movement that
has a vertical  coupling , column wheel and  real 72 hours Pr.
But I won't be paying  20k Rm premium for a watch that has 2 lugs  thinner  on the  crown and pusher side  than the other 2 .

They should have make the SS  Daytona casing similar to the everose gold ceramic Daytona casing  then only
I would  put my $ down. It's only my  opinion .

Regards.

[AbbasHabshee]

Imagine a collector without at a piece of  rolex. No doubt the Daytona have one of the very best movement that
has a vertical  coupling , column wheel and  real 72 hours Pr.
But I won't be paying  20k Rm premium for a watch that has 2 lugs  thinner  on the  crown and pusher side  than the other 2 .

They should have make the SS  Daytona casing similar to the everose gold ceramic Daytona casing  then only
I would  put my $ down. It's only my  opinion .

Regards.

ROLEX HQ


Boss : Guys, we need to minimize cost as possible and maximize profit. Come out with an idea so we could proceed on creating Baselworld 2016 models and to save our jobs and the company.

Designer & Marketing Team: Boss, since we have tons of 116520 steel cases, why dont we just create a new SS Daytona with a lil twist?

Boss : Hmm interesting, continue...

Designer & Marketing Team: Why dont we make lil twist and change the steel bezel to ceramic and do some modification on dial, this will be different from the current 116520. Maybe we could name it 116500 with new bezel and dial. This, in our opinion will be minimizing our cost very much and we could make a long waiting list for ADs so there will be premium over the waiting list just like what happened to 116520 and maximize the profit.

Boss: Very interesting! Proceed! Cant wait too see the crazy premium go all iver the ADs and Dealers 


Thats what happening right noe and for the mean time Rolex gives you  for paying the premium!


ROLEX: Thanks for helping us in maintaining especially in this bad economic days