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Which one would you choose and why..

Tutima Nato/Commander (Lemania 5100)
4 (12.9%)
Hanhart Fliegerchrono (Manual Wind Valjoux 7760)
1 (3.2%)
Omega Speedmaster 3570
24 (77.4%)
Tudor Prince Date Chrono (Auto Valjoux 7750)
2 (6.5%)

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Offline terrenceterrence

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Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« on: February 25, 2011, 10:56:08 PM »
Been thinking maybe it's time i get myself my first affordable chrono for a try. Which one would you guys choose?

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 10:56:40 PM »
and why..........

thanks in advance
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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 10:59:57 PM »
You should consider adding the Zenith El Primero to your list. Just a suggestion.

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 11:06:58 PM »
thanks..but I don't really fancy the design of the watch.
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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 06:24:40 AM »
Of course omega moonwatch :D

Only issue is manual winding and no date... It's my weekend watch  ;D

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 06:25:30 AM »
Sppedy  :thumbsup:
Simply classic.
If it's good enough to use for moon missions, is good enough for me  :Dancing_banana:

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 07:05:43 AM »
Tutima, Lemania 5100.

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 07:29:36 AM »
speedmaster +1, from this for selection

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 10:54:04 AM »
Legendary Lange Datograph.

gd 1. But a dayograph can buy 20 pieces of those listed up there!

I will suggest a seiko brightz Phoenix 8r28 in house movement with column wheel n vertical clutches!!!

Price just slightly lower than those listed!!!

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 11:16:32 AM »
Based on those listed... I guess Omega would be the choice.
Based on Brand Recognition, Tradition, Quality and future value.
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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 12:08:00 PM »
The speedy no hesitation.. if there was an el primero inthere i might think a lill but still end up with the speedy.. there is no chrono whith such history n distinct design
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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 01:57:27 PM »
I would take tutima commando for its simplicity. minute and second chrono hands in 1 dial. also, the advantage of not having a second hand is ez to set time especially for ppl like me who likes to set the time "accurate" to the second :)

btw, The movement installed in the current speedy is not the one used for moon missions.


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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2011, 06:59:06 PM »
Speedy pro.... a classic from Omega!!!

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 08:31:13 PM »
Of course the Tutima!
Why?
Bcos..
1. the red hands/arrow hand
2. reminds me very the much of the Sinn142 (is it cheaper than the Sinn142 ?)
3. the Lemania5100
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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2011, 09:24:22 PM »
In your choice for me speedy is the winner.
Cant beat the classic styling. Super easy to read the time at a glance.

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 09:43:27 PM »
Of course the Tutima!
Why?
Bcos..
1. the red hands/arrow hand
2. reminds me very the much of the Sinn142 (is it cheaper than the Sinn142 ?)
3. the Lemania5100


Why lemania5100?

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2011, 09:54:47 PM »
Lemania 5100 to me has the best readability. Forget about squinting ur eyes on the small dials and do some mental calculations @ the same time.

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2011, 02:42:15 AM »
Yeah that's my sentiment too about a Lemania. They say soon it'll be a museum piece.

I do love the Sinn 142 but the few pre-owned pieces with 5100 is selling at a premium. tried on the 7750 version and it does not have the "wow" factor as the 5100. but love how it feels and look on the wrist.



That is why the next best thing similar to the 142 and having a history to boot would be the Tutima Commando/Nato Chrono. the integrated chrono pushers looks cool IMHO. BTW anyone knows why "special forces" chronos have only a single sweeping second hand e.g. Sinn EZM and Tutima Commando?

As for the Hanhart, maybe the "nostalgia" factor comes into frame over here. the off centred pushers and the look of it looks real cool. nothing much spectacular going underneath it other than the the whole look of it. but think it'll look great paired up with a vintage bund and leather strap.



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The Moonwatch is somehow a peculiarity with me. It always look better on someone else other than me. i like the look and whole "moon heritage" marketing, but i need to strap it on the wrist again to have a feel. Don't really care much about brand recognition. I recognise the brand and that is more than enough, I don;t need someone else to notice to make me feel better of myself.

The Tudor Prince Date Chrono/Tiger Chrono always makes me smile whenever i see one. it's cute and funky IMHO. The Daytona that it's trying to emulate is always abit light, too refined and too "dressy". I can never carry it off. but the Tudor to me is the working man's daytona  :laugh:. Thicker and rougher around the edges.

all four are a couple of hundred different from each other in the preowned market. set myself a limited budget for watches each year, so i try to make the best possible judgement as possible cause i tend to buy and keep.

thanks everyone for giving opinions  :thumbsup:

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2011, 05:57:59 AM »
Of course the Tutima!
Why?
Bcos..
1. the red hands/arrow hand
2. reminds me very the much of the Sinn142 (is it cheaper than the Sinn142 ?)
3. the Lemania5100


Why lemania5100?


It is a real tool movement, robust and reliable. I like it because of the ease of reading. The chrono parts are rendered in red, no mistaking it. The second and minute indicator are large, no need to squint to try and read the minute. The 24 hour indicator is useful, more so when you want to adjust the date and don't have to worry if the time is at 12 or 24, no worry about damaging the movement. Very useful when you are spelunking and have no reference if it is day or night, also if you fly or are in areas when there is long day or nights. You also have the day and date. I would choose the Moon watch if it was still fitted with the original cal.321.

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2011, 08:00:01 PM »
I'd go for speedy as well.

But if it's my pick, would go for Sinn 156, 256 or the Bell & Ross M1... u can't go wrong with those...

Here's the 156:

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2011, 08:03:50 PM »
156



Bell & Ross M1

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2011, 08:26:51 PM »
Perhaps this might be a bit off-topic.
Here's something about the Lemania5100 (Mod. feel free to remove if the link is not appropriate) :)
http://www.chronomaddox.com/nouvelle_lemania_5100.html

... correct me if i'm wrong.. the Sinn142(Lemania5100) was brought to space & tested too. (can't remember the source)

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2011, 08:42:09 PM »
Tutima +1
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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2011, 09:10:40 PM »
... correct me if i'm wrong.. the Sinn142(Lemania5100) was brought to space & tested too. (can't remember the source)

http://sinn142.fateback.com/

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Re: Which Chrono would you choose and why?
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2011, 09:36:39 PM »
Just some interesting reading on Chrono:

This Guide briefly examines most of the Swiss Automatic Chronograph movements currently in production today.

First of all, you do not need a "name" watch to get a very good timepiece.  Many lesser-known manufacturers use the exact same movements as the Name Brands.  The only difference may be of refinement--the higher-end the watch the more the manufacturer may refine, polish and decorate the movement.

Valjoux 7750    This is by far the most common Swiss Chronograph movement in production today.  An integrated--designed to be a chronograph--25 Jewel workhorse, this is a highly durable, proven movement.  Franck Muller uses it on occasion, as well as IWC, Baume&Mercier, Cartier, etc.  An ETA (the largest Swiss movement manufacturer) product, it vibrates at 28,800 vph and is available in many configurations.  The 7751 features a Moon Phase and Triple Date; 7753 features 9-6-3 Subdials with Date at 4:30 or 6:00.   

ETA  2894-2    ETA also produces this movement.  The 2894 is cutting edge, vibrating at 28,800 vph with 37 Jewels.  This higher jewel count is mandated because this is a Modular Movement--a piggyback chronograph module is positioned on top of the 28 series movement, itself with 21 Jewels.  A remarkable 12.25 ligne in width.  These movements are showing up in more and more chronographs.  Also available in a variety of configurations.  Tag-Heuer, Chopard, Omega, and Baume & Mercier, among others, use this movement.

Zenith El Primero    This is probably the most famous chrono movement of all time.  Zenith originated it around 1963-4, and it is, with minor improvements, still in production today. It is an integrated 31-Jewel wonder vibrating at 36.000 vph--the world's fastest mechanical chronograph.  Rolex used this in the Daytona until 2000, when it premiered it's own movement.  Also used in the Tag Heuer Calibre 36,  Panerai, Roth, Ebel, etc.  If a watch other than Zenith contains the El Primero, it will certainly be advertised as such.

Lemania 1350   Ebel is the prime user of this 30 Jewel movement vibrating at 28,800 vph.  Breguet uses a customized version of this in their Type XX.  A very tough movement with a reputation for durability and lack of variance.  Lemania also makes the 5100, a movement used by Sinn and Tutima.

Rolex 4130   This brand-new Rolex Chronograph movement replaced the El Primero in the Daytona in 2000.  At 44 Jewels with a vph of 28,800, this movement has already won praises for it's toughness and accuracy.  Elegant  three-column design with a phenomenal 72 hour power reserve. Now Rolex, like just a few other Houses, produces all its movements in-house.

Frederic Piguet 1185   At 21.600 vph, this 37 Jewel movement is used in Audemars Piguet, Blancpain, Cartier Pasha,  VC, and  Brequet, among others.  With its exquisite three-column design, it is a favorite of collectors, who have considered it the finest autochrono movement made.  Exceptionally thin at 5.2mm.

Omega 3313 Co-Axial  This is Omega's Showpiece movement, originally based on the Piguet 1185, but now upgraded to include the Co-Axial Escapement (a large leap in mechanical technology). With a large power reserve of 55 hours, 3-column design, 37 Jewels, this movement is now state of the art (28,800vph). 

Patek Philippe 5960  PP's first automatic chronograph movement (2006) is a 3-column design, vibrating at 28,800 vph with 40 Jewels.  Complete with a solid 18K rotor and a 55 hour reserve, this is the most exclusive autochrono movement made, and with the Rolex, available in no other watch.  Generally available on eBay for less than 80K in platinum case.

As of today, Swatch Group of Switzerland owns ETA, Lemania, Valjoux, and F. Piguet, giving it a stranglehold on the Swiss Watch Industry.  It will be interesting; new movements by a variety of producers are now in the early stages of production.