Pepsi OR Nananana Batman ?

[ViiiLaix]

Hello guys, I am in the dilemma on which to purchase for my grail watch. It will be my daily go-to steel watch; it will be for fun also for work.

I'm torn between a Y-Series Pepsi 16710 minty condition (fullset) versus the BLNR Batman.



I had tried both on my wrist, the problem is, I'm not trying both of them at the same time. When I tried the Pepsi, it sings to me; while trying the Batman, it also sings to me as well. Of course, I can only choose one of them.

My heart told me to go with the Pepsi, as it's iconic & rich with history because it is the "Pepsi"

Also, I'm lusting for it since 2012 before getting into watches (that time I wore a Ben Sherman quartz), just a random walk into a shop in Berjaya Times Squre, saw this blue-red thingy watch, I already felt the charm of this watch. My heart told me to go with the Pepsi (and the price back then is just RM16000).

But, my logic told me with the new Batman, whereby now it comes with 5 years new warranty plus the bracelet is superior then the Pepsi - solid. Also, the price differences between these two is not really that much, just adding a little more I could get a brand new BLNR compared to the 14 years old Pepsi. Thus, batman is somewhat kinda rare to comeby models as well. Both this watches holds its value well.

Please kindly advice if you get only to choose one between these two.


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[Meowy]

A brand new BLNR will be a tough challenge to find in the market.

If I were you and set my mind on a new one for either piece, I will walk into the AD/boutique, ask for both and see which one got stock.

Leave it to fate.

[Kesharoo]

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[Danielo]

The steel Master II GMT now is available in that 'Batman' & Full black ceramic bezel.  Even though the dual colour bezel is a proprietary design by Rolex, my personal feeling towards it is that it would more of a trend than an actual move by Rolex for its lineage.

When the blue/black was released, I loved it, but since then I felt that it has lost it's charm and is more of a novelty which opposes what I think a Rolex should be.

[Equinox]

I was in kinda same decision before. I was between the 16710 coke or the Batman. I got the Batman less than 2 months ago. Still honeymoon phase. Haha

What lead me to Batman is the newer model simply have more beef.  It has more presence on wrist. And I'm also not really a big fan of the fading bezel. I'm sure I'll be happy 10 years down the road when the cerachrom bezel still looks as if it's new. 

I still have my name queued in multiple ADs for the BLNR.

Anyway I'm sure u will enjoy the piece no matter which one u choose. Cheers!

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[yehlai]

If like more bling and noticeable then new GMT

[dualcarb]

I like them both and tried them both. In the end, I went for the 116710LN. I prefer the more solid bracelet, the easy link extension. Ceramic bezel and triplock crown. The 16710 is tough a nails, I'm sure. But on my wrist, it felt light and flimsy in comparison. But the classic looks of a full black bezel and the green GMT hands coupled with a little bit of green on the dial is just too sexy to pass up. This is just me and there would be many other opinions out there. Ultimately, the only option that matters is yours. How you feel and how the watch makes you feel.

[chrisyen]

Color matter? Then easy... see which color sing to u!

Otherwise, if just one watch to wear most of the time
Go for the newer GMT master ii
It's much much much better built
No heart pain for scratching ur bezel
And the new bracelet and buckle is one best in watch industry


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[ViiiLaix]

@dualcarb I'm agree that it feels light and flimsy as its bracelet are still using hollow links instead the solid one like the ceramic gmts, this is also my concern as it will stretch from daily wear. As it already been worn for 14years, how much life span of this bracelet still left with?

But for all the modern Rolexes nowadays with solid links, I'm confident it won't stretch and meant to be worn for a very long long time.

@chrisyen thanks for posting the picture for my use of comparison. If colours then it's Pepsi, if more on solidness definitely the batman wins, but Batman is definitely hard to hunt one down.

[roystock]

Batman is by far my favourite watch - robust and classy, with an useful GMT function.
I also like my Pepsi, but I am not comfortable to bring it into swimming pool, so batman wins

[ViiiLaix]

Seems like all the comments are going to Batman.


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[psychokandy]

I must say BATMAN as I am bias....coz that's the one I have. You'll like it.

[psychokandy]

@dualcarb I'm agree that it feels light and flimsy as its bracelet are still using hollow links instead the solid one like the ceramic gmts, this is also my concern as it will stretch from daily wear. As it already been worn for 14years, how much life span of this bracelet still left with?

But for all the modern Rolexes nowadays with solid links, I'm confident it won't stretch and meant to be worn for a very long long time.

@chrisyen thanks for posting the picture for my use of comparison. If colours then it's Pepsi, if more on solidness definitely the batman wins, but Batman is definitely hard to hunt one down.

eventhough the 5 digit Rolex has hollow center link, if well taken care off, the bracelet won't stretch that much. i have seen my colleague's Sub Date 15 years old without any bracelet stretch.

[pexus]

the 116710 BLNR is a solid, gorgeous watch with many great modern features.  The weight, blue lume, micro-adjustment, chameleon-like ceramic bezel and newer movement sets it apart from the 16710. 

the 16710? Possibility of swapping 3 bezels, coupled with oyster/jubilee bracelet makes it a very versatile watch. However, you will need to spend more $ and time to acquire these extras.  Some people find the aluminium hue of pepsi/coke bezel more attractive, even when its faded... 

its a tough choice. 

If i have to pick one? 16710...not a t-dial 16710 or 16750...but the lumi- 16710, as a worry-free daily watch

[dpkong]

The 16710 will be a lighter watch to wear. Without the polished centre links, you won't have to worry about daily beater use. I think the lugs are more proportionate compared to the fatter lugs of the new models. The blue/red hue on aluminum is nicer than that dull blue on ceramic.

And stretch on the hollow bracelet is not a really big issue. Do try to get one with solid end links on the bracelet.

[TheHobbit]

Some people prefer the tool watch look of the 16710 and others the modern look of the Batman. Just like some prefer Rolex with lug holes while others do not. To me the 16710 is a classic and am sure the Batman will be a future classic as well. Both watches are great and you can't lose choosing either one. At the end of the day, its your wrist and it is you that the watch have to satisfy. What ever your choice, wear it with good health and do post some pics.

[D'Andy]

I think that the Batman is a very versatile watch for the business traveller, and should wear well towards becoming a future classic. Having said that, the 16710 is a genuine classic today, and prices had been on an increasing trend over the years. If there was a 16710 available at a reasonable price, I would go for that piece first; since it is relatively harder to get that over the Batman (also hard to get, since well, we are talking about the elusive Batman lurking in the shadows after all    )

[ViiiLaix]

Interesting. I agreed with Batman being lurking in the shadows. It makes no sense as Rolex mass produced this watch, and there's still a shortage in the demand. I believe this piece is readily available in all the AD's safe.

Some dealer quoted "You can get the watch immediately la, but also need to purchase the gold model like datejust." 

I think that the Batman is a very versatile watch for the business traveller, and should wear well towards becoming a future classic. Having said that, the 16710 is a genuine classic today, and prices had been on an increasing trend over the years. If there was a 16710 available at a reasonable price, I would go for that piece first; since it is relatively harder to get that over the Batman (also hard to get, since well, we are talking about the elusive Batman lurking in the shadows after all    )

[ViiiLaix]

Some people prefer the tool watch look of the 16710 and others the modern look of the Batman. Just like some prefer Rolex with lug holes while others do not. To me the 16710 is a classic and am sure the Batman will be a future classic as well. Both watches are great and you can't lose choosing either one. At the end of the day, its your wrist and it is you that the watch have to satisfy. What ever your choice, wear it with good health and do post some pics.

Definitely will post pics when I get either one of these. Still in dilemma, a tough choice 

[ViiiLaix]

The 16710 will be a lighter watch to wear. Without the polished centre links, you won't have to worry about daily beater use. I think the lugs are more proportionate compared to the fatter lugs of the new models. The blue/red hue on aluminum is nicer than that dull blue on ceramic.

And stretch on the hollow bracelet is not a really big issue. Do try to get one with solid end links on the bracelet.

I think that the bezel insert is nicer as well, as it is iconic. I just felt like 16710 is a humble and honest watch, makes the wearer kinda like easy-to-approach guy and it wouldn't scream that loud either.

I had one reserved is the Y series, with SEL, hollow bracelet and that lug holes adding more character.  As I am so used to the weight of my 114060, when it tried the Pepsi, it feels so so so light. Perhaps it's just my feeling to question the quality (bracelet) of this watch.

[dpkong]

The 16710 will be a lighter watch to wear. Without the polished centre links, you won't have to worry about daily beater use. I think the lugs are more proportionate compared to the fatter lugs of the new models. The blue/red hue on aluminum is nicer than that dull blue on ceramic.

And stretch on the hollow bracelet is not a really big issue. Do try to get one with solid end links on the bracelet.

I think that the bezel insert is nicer as well, as it is iconic. I just felt like 16710 is a humble and honest watch, makes the wearer kinda like easy-to-approach guy and it wouldn't scream that loud either.

I had one reserved is the Y series, with SEL, hollow bracelet and that lug holes adding more character.  As I am so used to the weight of my 114060, when it tried the Pepsi, it feels so so so light. Perhaps it's just my feeling to question the quality (bracelet) of this watch.

Rolex made a lot of watches using this bracelet design and it will last a lot longer than you or me.

[TheHobbit]

The 16710 will be a lighter watch to wear. Without the polished centre links, you won't have to worry about daily beater use. I think the lugs are more proportionate compared to the fatter lugs of the new models. The blue/red hue on aluminum is nicer than that dull blue on ceramic.

And stretch on the hollow bracelet is not a really big issue. Do try to get one with solid end links on the bracelet.

I think that the bezel insert is nicer as well, as it is iconic. I just felt like 16710 is a humble and honest watch, makes the wearer kinda like easy-to-approach guy and it wouldn't scream that loud either.

I had one reserved is the Y series, with SEL, hollow bracelet and that lug holes adding more character.  As I am so used to the weight of my 114060, when it tried the Pepsi, it feels so so so light. Perhaps it's just my feeling to question the quality (bracelet) of this watch.

Its a common feeling when one moves from the modern 6 digit Rolex to trying the older 5 digit Rolex. 

[rururuss]

Go for the Batman! Even for me who isn't into Rolexes, it looks awesome 

[D'Andy]

I just felt like 16710 is a humble and honest watch, makes the wearer kinda like easy-to-approach guy and it wouldn't scream that loud either.

I know how you feel- I had the same feeling with the SD4k. Flipped that to get the SD43, then felt that the newer version had lost the essence of the traditional SD, especially with that Cyclops (although that red-liner was oh-so-attractive). It didn't help that I recently spotted a BNIB SD4k going for almost RM60k after conversion (too optimistic an asking price, I know), but am kicking myself for the flip. The 16710 is like the SD4k, in a way.

[Sky 007]

I don't have Batman, but I have this 2 models 16700 & 16710, i know the new model come with the new ceramic bezel & the new solid bracelet & others... but I still go for the history, I know more difficult to find a good condition Pepsi since was discontinued if compare with the Batman. This only my personal opinion.


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