Oris or Ball or Tag Heuer

[nefc]

Hi all MWF,

After much consideration and much help from fellow forumers specially much contribution from @olkuu0205 @Cocas and @terencefoo59..

I had a walk again in Mall and basically shortlisted my list to 3 of the following:-

 -Oris Aquis Date - Blue dial, ceramic bezel, Metal strap - below 5.5k

 - Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon Deep Quest - stainless steel built -> unsure but should be around 7k also

 -Tag Heuer Aquarace Calibre 5 - Black dial, ceramic bezel, Metal strap -> 7k+

I honestly needed advise again on the criteria below based on the model stated above. My Budget is RM8k+- which mean if I were to go for Oris, I will also consider extra order for the rubber strap for more casual occasion use.

 -Robustness/build quality/qc
 -Movement quality of the watch
 -Best for everyday wear and long term use
 -Price:value ratio
 -Something I should know?

Again thank you all for the input..

Nef 

PS: photo below for reference, I decided not to take the Ball Hydrocarbon GMT cause hours marking complicated and not to my liking, if I were to get the Ball I will go for DeepQuest or something simpler and bold.

[Olkuu0205]

Tag or oris nicer than ball. My friend Pakai ball the model u show above quite few of them have issue defect problem on bracelet broke very easily, screw not tight on those case part or even the tritium tube drop before...funny xia 

Choose tag or oris lo haha

[kygan711]

I would buy the oris and get some leather straps on it with the extra budget. You can get custom strap makers to make them for you from USD 100-180 per strap. Don't buy the rubber strap if you can. Do check if it's easy to remove and install strap on the watch though and what tools you need to buy which is usually just a single screw driver with the right size.

[KennyH]

For me, either tag or oris but prefer tag more on its look and shape. For oris, the dial looks too empty with small hands and I like the bezel of the tag.

[Vykraine]

I would think the oris is abit plain and simple.. where the tag is more class..dont forget it can change to rubber strap as well

[nefc]

Hey guys, thanks for the input.

Well I think now is down to oris or tag now. I had remove ball from the list reason being that the dial is nice but at the same time I had bad experience getting my hand hurt by the dial (even smaller one) when I push against the floor while I fell on slippery floor.

Now for tag and oris, how's the build quality to compare with? Price:value ratio? Any issue I should be aware of?

Either of them, I'll get it with a metal bracelet 1st then will get an extra leather/rubber/fabric strap later on as suggested. The original tag heuer strap really looks nice though compared to the original oris rubber strap. So if Oris, I might go for an after market leather strap instead of its rubber one..

Ps: Do advise as well which of these 2 watches looks better on my wrist? 

Edit: For side note, my feeling towards these 2 watches now are:-

Tag - Looks nicer on my wrist but I felt this brand is getting more mainstream which I do not like. Does the spec justify the price where it is almost RM2k more expensive than Oris which have the equal performance.

Oris - I like this watch reason being the blue dial which give a sense of elegance at the same time a sporty feeling by the exterior built and... I always thought that Oris is a more premium brand than Tag Heuer and din't know why (No offend to Tag users/fan)

[Cocas]

Hey guys, thanks for the input.

Well I think now is down to oris or tag now. I had remove ball from the list reason being that the dial is nice but at the same time I had bad experience getting my hand hurt by the dial (even smaller one) when I push against the floor while I fell on slippery floor.

Now for tag and oris, how's the build quality to compare with? Price:value ratio? Any issue I should be aware of?

Either of them, I'll get it with a metal bracelet 1st then will get an extra leather/rubber/fabric strap later on as suggested. The original tag heuer strap really looks nice though compared to the original oris rubber strap. So if Oris, I might go for an after market leather strap instead of its rubber one..

Ps: Do advise as well which of these 2 watches looks better on my wrist? 

Edit: For side note, my feeling towards these 2 watches now are:-

Tag - Looks nicer on my wrist but I felt this brand is getting more mainstream which I do not like. Does the spec justify the price where it is almost RM2k more expensive than Oris which have the equal performance.

Oris - I like this watch reason being the blue dial which give a sense of elegance at the same time a sporty feeling by the exterior built and... I always thought that Oris is a more premium brand than Tag Heuer and din't know why (No offend to Tag users/fan)

I put Ball rank above Oris and Tag in term of toughness and durability.

In term of casing shape and Stainless Steel finishing surface, Tag is best amongst them.

If your want the best hour marker/ hands finishing, Ball is the best.

For moonphase, ball first then follow by Oris.

The above just my personal opinion though.

[azzamov]

Hey guys, thanks for the input.

Well I think now is down to oris or tag now. I had remove ball from the list reason being that the dial is nice but at the same time I had bad experience getting my hand hurt by the dial (even smaller one) when I push against the floor while I fell on slippery floor.

Now for tag and oris, how's the build quality to compare with? Price:value ratio? Any issue I should be aware of?

Either of them, I'll get it with a metal bracelet 1st then will get an extra leather/rubber/fabric strap later on as suggested. The original tag heuer strap really looks nice though compared to the original oris rubber strap. So if Oris, I might go for an after market leather strap instead of its rubber one..

Ps: Do advise as well which of these 2 watches looks better on my wrist? 

Edit: For side note, my feeling towards these 2 watches now are:-

Tag - Looks nicer on my wrist but I felt this brand is getting more mainstream which I do not like. Does the spec justify the price where it is almost RM2k more expensive than Oris which have the equal performance.

Oris - I like this watch reason being the blue dial which give a sense of elegance at the same time a sporty feeling by the exterior built and... I always thought that Oris is a more premium brand than Tag Heuer and din't know why (No offend to Tag users/fan)

I owned similar tag, except it's came with yellow stitch strap. If you ask me, I am happy with my tag...

Fyi, I also owned oris and ball, which are Oris F1 william and Ball Stormchaser. Both watches were in my stable since 2009.

[nefc]

I owned similar tag, except it's came with yellow stitch strap. If you ask me, I am happy with my tag...

Fyi, I also owned oris and ball, which are Oris F1 william and Ball Stormchaser. Both watches were in my stable since 2009.

Hi azzamov, is yours with the black dial and black case with black ceramic bezel? If yes I assume that's the titanium version.

If so just curious how long u been using it and does the coating chip off easily?

[Vykraine]

well..since u clearly like the oris more..then just go for it. =)..but if you are willing to spend around 8 to 9k..maurice is also a good choice..class and elegant.

[kygan711]

with 8 to 9k can check
out
preown bell and ross already if lucky

[azzamov]

I owned similar tag, except it's came with yellow stitch strap. If you ask me, I am happy with my tag...

Fyi, I also owned oris and ball, which are Oris F1 william and Ball Stormchaser. Both watches were in my stable since 2009.

Hi azzamov, is yours with the black dial and black case with black ceramic bezel? If yes I assume that's the titanium version.

If so just curious how long u been using it and does the coating chip off easily?

Hello bro. Nope, mine is the regular stainless steel model, 41mm size.
Initially wanted the blue one with some orange details, but no stock.
So I settled with black...

[kevinlohkm]

Brought tag calibre 5 ceramic at Changi Airport for sgd2200 with free gift. Been wearing it for a year now. Solid piece

[spacewalker]

Get That Tag AR Ceramic , it will looks good either on bracelet or rubber. The fitting also nice, not too tick.

[artyca]

I'd go with the Tag. Still the best brand for entry level watches.

[jmur3]

Tag or oris nicer than ball. My friend Pakai ball the model u show above quite few of them have issue defect problem on bracelet broke very easily, screw not tight on those case part or even the tritium tube drop before...funny xia 

Choose tag or oris lo haha

Weird, i do own a few ball watches and have never encountered such issues. FYI, some are already 8 years old, mind you.
Maybe your friend was just unlucky. For the above stated issues, they should be noticeable within the 3 year warranty period, no?
In which he can go to service center and get them fixed or replaced.

[jmur3]

Anyway to TS, I think the new Oris Propilot big crown day date is nice.
Just a suggestion.

[Cocas]

Tag or oris nicer than ball. My friend Pakai ball the model u show above quite few of them have issue defect problem on bracelet broke very easily, screw not tight on those case part or even the tritium tube drop before...funny xia 

Choose tag or oris lo haha

Weird, i do own a few ball watches and have never encountered such issues. FYI, some are already 8 years old, mind you.
Maybe your friend was just unlucky. For the above stated issues, they should be noticeable within the 3 year warranty period, no?
In which he can go to service center and get them fixed or replaced.

I put Ball into fridge to test it's mechanical thermometer, i also had a car accident and my Ball mad cow knocked against the dashboard badly but it's tick perfectly and I didn't even need sending it for service.

[Seiko2012]

tag heuer seem like the brand name is not up to the price now

[nefc]

Get That Tag AR Ceramic , it will looks good either on bracelet or rubber. The fitting also nice, not too tick.

Actually I am abit towards Oris now.. Tag Heuer seem to be very mainstream now.

Plus, when I look around pre-own shops or pre-own online watch have tonnes of these Calibre 5 AR.. From old to new.. Makes me had a bad feeling to buy it as my 1st luxury entry watch..

I am also looking at the Bell & Ross 03-92 steel now... apparently it fits my wrist well.

But lots people had said that their price does not judge the value of the watch.. After some studies yes.. because it uses similar movement to other 3 watches I had posted which is much cheaper..

[Olkuu0205]

Get That Tag AR Ceramic , it will looks good either on bracelet or rubber. The fitting also nice, not too tick.

Actually I am abit towards Oris now.. Tag Heuer seem to be very mainstream now.

Plus, when I look around pre-own shops or pre-own online watch have tonnes of these Calibre 5 AR.. From old to new.. Makes me had a bad feeling to buy it as my 1st luxury entry watch..

I am also looking at the Bell & Ross 03-92 steel now... apparently it fits my wrist well.

But lots people had said that their price does not judge the value of the watch.. After some studies yes.. because it uses similar movement to other 3 watches I had posted which is much cheaper..

Totally It's not similar movement bro... oris u post 733 movement is based on sellita sw200 and tag caliber 5 now also using sellita sw
while the one u wear bell & ross is using high end precision adjusted ETA 2892-2 , the model u wear 03-'92'means the caliber 28'92'-2 in bell & ross 
It's a super famous and robust reliable & accurate movement. Iwc mark xviii, entry portofino and some other top brand now is on this movement too...  do more homework first bro.
bell & Ross branding is just like BMW while the brand u post earlier is more like Volkswagen, no wrong no right depend on you. But guess most people will go for BMW Mercedes if want me to choose.

Value is vary, because the three other watch u post also doesn't seem like do judge the value of the watch either...

[G.MAC]

For RM8k, I would go pre-owned for the simple reason that "value" is better there with someone else taking a hit on their initial outlay. For RM8k, you could look at the pre-ceramic Omega Seamaster, some Omega Speedmaster Automatic with Co-Axial movement ( not to be confused with the 9300 caliber), some older variant IWC etc.

If however I am stuck with the three choices, I would go for the Tag Heuer.

[nefc]

Get That Tag AR Ceramic , it will looks good either on bracelet or rubber. The fitting also nice, not too tick.

Actually I am abit towards Oris now.. Tag Heuer seem to be very mainstream now.

Plus, when I look around pre-own shops or pre-own online watch have tonnes of these Calibre 5 AR.. From old to new.. Makes me had a bad feeling to buy it as my 1st luxury entry watch..

I am also looking at the Bell & Ross 03-92 steel now... apparently it fits my wrist well.

But lots people had said that their price does not judge the value of the watch.. After some studies yes.. because it uses similar movement to other 3 watches I had posted which is much cheaper..

Totally It's not similar movement bro... oris u post 733 movement is based on sellita sw200 and tag caliber 5 now also using sellita sw
while the one u wear bell & ross is using high end precision adjusted ETA 2892-2 , the model u wear 03-'92'means the caliber 28'92'-2 in bell & ross 
It's a super famous and robust reliable & accurate movement. Iwc mark xviii, entry portofino and some other top brand now is on this movement too...  do more homework first bro.
bell & Ross branding is just like BMW while the brand u post earlier is more like Volkswagen, no wrong no right depend on you. But most people will go for BMW, Mercedes brand for me if choose.

Value is vary, because the three other watch u post also doesn't seem like do judge the value of the watch either...

Hi olku0522,

Yes, did some research but instead of eta 2892-2 I thought they are using a reworked selitta sw300 (use to substitute eta 2892-2) to their own so call calibre BR-cal.302.

While I know the tag and oris I posted earlier are using the movement brother to eta 2892-2 and and sw300 which are eta 2824 for the tag and sw200 for the oris.

Read some reviews for 2824/sw200 vs 2892/sw300 both have their pros and cons and their basically on par which each other.

Correct me if I'm wrong though..


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[Olkuu0205]

Get That Tag AR Ceramic , it will looks good either on bracelet or rubber. The fitting also nice, not too tick.

Actually I am abit towards Oris now.. Tag Heuer seem to be very mainstream now.

Plus, when I look around pre-own shops or pre-own online watch have tonnes of these Calibre 5 AR.. From old to new.. Makes me had a bad feeling to buy it as my 1st luxury entry watch..

I am also looking at the Bell & Ross 03-92 steel now... apparently it fits my wrist well.

But lots people had said that their price does not judge the value of the watch.. After some studies yes.. because it uses similar movement to other 3 watches I had posted which is much cheaper..

Totally It's not similar movement bro... oris u post 733 movement is based on sellita sw200 and tag caliber 5 now also using sellita sw
while the one u wear bell & ross is using high end precision adjusted ETA 2892-2 , the model u wear 03-'92'means the caliber 28'92'-2 in bell & ross 
It's a super famous and robust reliable & accurate movement. Iwc mark xviii, entry portofino and some other top brand now is on this movement too...  do more homework first bro.
bell & Ross branding is just like BMW while the brand u post earlier is more like Volkswagen, no wrong no right depend on you. But most people will go for BMW, Mercedes brand for me if choose.

Value is vary, because the three other watch u post also doesn't seem like do judge the value of the watch either...

Hi olku0522,

Yes, did some research but instead of eta 2892-2 I thought they are using a reworked selitta sw300 (use to substitute eta 2892-2) to their own so call calibre BR-cal.302.

While I know the tag and oris I posted earlier are using the movement brother to eta 2892-2 and and sw300 which are eta 2824 for the tag and sw200 for the oris.

Read some reviews for 2824/sw200 vs 2892/sw300 both have their pros and cons and their basically on par which each other.

Correct me if I'm wrong though..


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Bell and Ross is using high grade ETA movement, even the one u post 03-92 is using 2892-2 top grade. Not reworked sellita movement as u said... of course every watch brand have their own name for their caliber but u need to know their base movement on each model or it might be an in-house. Both are different manufacturer not brother...2824=sw200-2, , I have ETA and sellita watch, the one with sellita I sold, personally I only go for ETA(except 2824)or either in-house. I won't use apple compare with orange. Eta value, quality, robustness, the history, the watch choose to use on eta is can't replace with sw for me. 
Overall watch is not just about movement, there still many other thing to talk about. 
All sifu don't shoot me, just my personal preference. 

[Olkuu0205]

Ald decide which model to buy yet?