Is Bell & Ross a good choice for first luxury watch under RM15k?

[Olkuu0205]

Based on your topic below 15k for bell & Ross sure is really a good choice. bell & ross brand standing level is very popular and luxury. But below 15k of course also have other choice. But If u like Bell & ross just go get it.

[chrisyen]

Follow your heart

Buy a watch that you would love to wear on your wrist
Not other ppl wrist

Watch is more than just history and movement

Many brand with history already collapsed
Many brand with own movement also collapsed

Below rm15k is definitely bell & ross range...

BR golden heritage is also its very original series of design

BR set many trend on design
Even bigger brand with much longer history copying BR design or idea all the time

So I will say

If u like it... buy!!!


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[danslater]

Could not agree more. Buy what wears nice on your wrist..

On a separate point which should be of no significance, I have a 27 y/o cousin who tells me that ladies dig his Bell & Ross 

[lisa hasan]

Follow your heart

Buy a watch that you would love to wear on your wrist
Not other ppl wrist

Watch is more than just history and movement

Many brand with history already collapsed
Many brand with own movement also collapsed

Below rm15k is definitely bell & ross range...

BR golden heritage is also its very original series of design

BR set many trend on design
Even bigger brand with much longer history copying BR design or idea all the time

So I will say

If u like it... buy!!!


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Agree


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[Olkuu0205]

Follow your heart


Buy a watch that you would love to wear on your wrist
Not other ppl wrist

Watch is more than just history and movement

Many brand with history already collapsed
Many brand with own movement also collapsed

Below rm15k is definitely bell & ross range...

BR golden heritage is also its very original series of design

BR set many trend on design
Even bigger brand with much longer history copying BR design or idea all the time

So I will say

If u like it... buy!!!


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Agreed Chris +1 Bell and Ross is a really really well develop watch company with their own way with short history, some brand with long long history but branding also not good as bell and Ross.

[saprozeldo]

One of my first few watches was a Bell&Ross.. didnt know better then.. so heart says then i loved it.. so typically ignorance is bliss.. no one taught me that its very likely i wont hold on to the B&R when my economy improves & will flip it..  no one taught me that PVD is the worst case material to take care of & there's no such thing as 'polishing' PVD.. & no one taught me that B&R secondary market value is more akin to Volvo than that to Honda..

Btw, pls check the balance of a B&R on your wrist. It didnt sit nicely on my wrist and kept falling to the sides. Since i have just used my early days budget on it, just kinda accepted & had to just live with it.

So just sharing my experience. Would i buy a B&R as my first watch now? Regardless how i liked it back then, on the benefit of hindsight and over 15k poorer, i'd say NO.

What i would have gone for?
1. Definitely not new. Go for pre-owned
2. Something thats easier to flip and maybe lose less than 40% of what i bought it for
3. Definitely non-PVD material

Good luck

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[fuzzy]

Is it worth the price? No, because RV is very poor.

But should you get it? Yes absolutely if you love it. Don't use RV or what others think as the barometer of how good or worthy a watch is.

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[KennyH]

If thinking of RV, one may definitely feel very difficult in pulling trigger. Just do it.

[chrisyen]

Actually not that true though

The RV for BR03 are quite good
Unless u r buying at full retail price

N it's sell pretty fast now in pre owned market
Certainly sell faster than most Pam models now

Every brand hv some model resale better than other

I personally sold many Br03 & Br01 and Brv123
I m pretty sure it sell better than many brand at this price range

If all think of RV before buying
That's like thinking divorce before marry

Y not just buy Rolex submariner




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[kygan711]

So say you buy Bell n Ross. Go scout around compared new vs pre own.
For me, somehow I think pre own will be my choice as I have seen the 12-15K watches selling for 7-9k pre own after 1 year.
If price of new vs preown small gap then go new instead.
Buying pre own will be better if you choose to sell this watch and get another. You will never know our taste change overtime and this happens to a lot a lot of people. We think one watch for life now when we buy but it rarely happens. There is always something nicer, better all the time coming out.

[saprozeldo]

Actually not that true though

The RV for BR03 are quite good
Unless u r buying at full retail price

N it's sell pretty fast now in pre owned market
Certainly sell faster than most Pam models now

Every brand hv some model resale better than other

I personally sold many Br03 & Br01 and Brv123
I m pretty sure it sell better than many brand at this price range

If all think of RV before buying
That's like thinking divorce before marry

Y not just buy Rolex submariner




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yeah i bought new for full retail price back then before i met MWF   so shud go pre-owned.. & yeah, most RV of pre-owned watches is not bad.. in my case, max was 20%ish less after a year of use, can put it down to rental cost i suppose

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[asimo]

the BR Skull is nice

[mikelcch]

One of my first few watches was a Bell&Ross.. didnt know better then.. so heart says then i loved it.. so typically ignorance is bliss.. no one taught me that its very likely i wont hold on to the B&R when my economy improves & will flip it..  no one taught me that PVD is the worst case material to take care of & there's no such thing as 'polishing' PVD.. & no one taught me that B&R secondary market value is more akin to Volvo than that to Honda..

Btw, pls check the balance of a B&R on your wrist. It didnt sit nicely on my wrist and kept falling to the sides. Since i have just used my early days budget on it, just kinda accepted & had to just live with it.

So just sharing my experience. Would i buy a B&R as my first watch now? Regardless how i liked it back then, on the benefit of hindsight and over 15k poorer, i'd say NO.

What i would have gone for?
1. Definitely not new. Go for pre-owned
2. Something thats easier to flip and maybe lose less than 40% of what i bought it for
3. Definitely non-PVD material

Good luck

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Great advice.

But in the end buy whatever tickles your fancy. If you feel a B&R can give you yours money's worth then by all means. For me at 15k, I would look at Tudor Pelagos, the Blue in particular. A beautiful piece.

[chrisyen]

Nothing to do with BR

99% of the watch
U walk or from shop buying brand new

The value drop straight
U buy a Rolex datejust n c
Or buy a Patek Phillipe catralava n see




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[chrisyen]

So if u think of resale
No considering
Perfect condition
Full warranty from manufacturer
Fullset with ur name
Customer service
No risk of fraud n cheap

Then by all means
Buy pre owned !


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[KennyH]

For me, if just think of having one of it, pre-owned will do since my desire of having other will keep coming. So the one with me now may not be forever.

[saprozeldo]

For me, if just think of having one of it, pre-owned will do since my desire of having other will keep coming. So the one with me now may not be forever.

Exactly.. As someone new at developing an interest in watches, its most likely we dont know what we really like.. and we'll keep having a desire for something else.. its a journey until that moment when we really know for sure..

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[danslater]

Actually not that true though

The RV for BR03 are quite good
Unless u r buying at full retail price

N it's sell pretty fast now in pre owned market
Certainly sell faster than most Pam models now

Every brand hv some model resale better than other

I personally sold many Br03 & Br01 and Brv123
I m pretty sure it sell better than many brand at this price range

If all think of RV before buying
That's like thinking divorce before marry

Y not just buy Rolex submariner




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Yea, this is what a friend of mine did back just 3 years ago..

Buy 2 submariner. 1 with date and 1 with no-date.

Put the no-date in his drawer and kept it as a NOS. Wear the date sub.

Now the NOS one already appreciate by close to 40%

and the date - its well worn but I'm sure the value will hold 

[Timeless]

BR is a good choice start with. ML, Tudor, IWC etc. could consider in this budget too if falls inder your preference.

[altee]

Is it worth the price? No, because RV is very poor.

But should you get it? Yes absolutely if you love it. Don't use RV or what others think as the barometer of how good or worthy a watch is.

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Truth. Choose something that evokes an emotion in you - not because the movement is technically superior, or the case material durable, or whatever else. At the end of the day, it is whether you love wearing it and how you feel looking at it.

As many have noted, you get a lot for your money with a Tudor. But if you don't love looking at it, why bother? So maybe take some time, and consider your options, before settling on one that in your opinion, meets your gives you the best balance of design language, quality, technical (movement / case material), value, and also market perception. Also, who you want compliments from - the general public (choose a B&R), or a watchnut? (choose a Tudor).

Good luck.

[chrisyen]

Actually not that true though

The RV for BR03 are quite good
Unless u r buying at full retail price

N it's sell pretty fast now in pre owned market
Certainly sell faster than most Pam models now

Every brand hv some model resale better than other

I personally sold many Br03 & Br01 and Brv123
I m pretty sure it sell better than many brand at this price range

If all think of RV before buying
That's like thinking divorce before marry

Y not just buy Rolex submariner




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Yea, this is what a friend of mine did back just 3 years ago..

Buy 2 submariner. 1 with date and 1 with no-date.

Put the no-date in his drawer and kept it as a NOS. Wear the date sub.

Now the NOS one already appreciate by close to 40%

and the date - its well worn but I'm sure the value will hold 

If u buy a watch
Not for wearing
Just keep in the safe

Then that's an investment
40% due to ringgit fell also
Buy property mayb u make more
In terms of roi

Topic is 15k watch range
BR03-92 is around this
After discount is actually ard rm11-13k with steel - ceramic case





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[Olkuu0205]

Actually not that true though

The RV for BR03 are quite good
Unless u r buying at full retail price

N it's sell pretty fast now in pre owned market
Certainly sell faster than most Pam models now

Every brand hv some model resale better than other

I personally sold many Br03 & Br01 and Brv123
I m pretty sure it sell better than many brand at this price range

If all think of RV before buying
That's like thinking divorce before marry

Y not just buy Rolex submariner




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Yea, this is what a friend of mine did back just 3 years ago..

Buy 2 submariner. 1 with date and 1 with no-date.

Put the no-date in his drawer and kept it as a NOS. Wear the date sub.

Now the NOS one already appreciate by close to 40%

and the date - its well worn but I'm sure the value will hold 

If u buy a watch
Not for wearing
Just keep in the safe

Then that's an investment
40% due to ringgit fell also
Buy property mayb u make more
In terms of roi

Topic is 15k watch range
BR03-92 is around this
After discount is actually ard rm11-13k with steel - ceramic case





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Chris here's another Bell & Ross 

[chfoong]

Chris here's another Bell & Ross 

Not a typical B&R that i usually see, this looks awesome!

[Olkuu0205]

Chris here's another Bell & Ross 

Not a typical B&R that i usually see, this looks awesome!

Chfoong thanks hehe, the Uncommon one , that's why I love it  , for me bell & ross is a good watch , this one is 40Hours power reserved high precision ETA 2895-2 with 4 adjusted position. 

[KennyH]

Chris here's another Bell & Ross 
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This BR is really nice. What price range is it around?