Seems a space for another.. what shud it be?

[antoniosaprozeld]

Hi guys..

Thot i had the variety to cover several objectives, within my limited means.. so i set a few parameters;
1. Max of 4 (maybe can bend this for a 5th)
2. One each from notable watchmaker brands within my means; rolex, jaeger, breitling, zenith etc
3. Must be for variety of occassions; dinner wear, semi-formal, casual & sports
4. Variety of size and shapes and straps; some square some round, smaller dials to larger dials, crocstrap to ss bracelets

So hv d 4 which to me is well rounded;
1. JLC reverso grande hometime; dinnerwear croctrap with 35mm width squareshaped
2. Breitling navitimer 01; semi formal calfstrap with 46mm width roundfaced
3. Rolex 116610LV; casualwear ss brace with 40mm width round
4. Graham silverstone stowe; sportswear rubberstrap with 48mm width round

Looking at the stats, feel need to upgrade d graham, but its actually a nice watch to look at & to wear..

If its u guys having set such parameters, what wld u guys do? How would you guys justify a replacement.. & what to replace.. & replace with what?

Penny for ur thots

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[Timeless]

imo, I feel graham's crown guard is kinda like fire extinguisher design. Otherthan that, the overall design looks fine

[antoniosaprozeld]

Yeah its different all right.. but thot should upgrade d graham to a watchmaker brand like zenith or omega or even panerai.. there's a big gap from my 40mm to 46mm.. maybe find a 43mm width watch with rubberstraps..

D moonwatch was first to mind, 42mm and seems many like to swap to natostraps, didnt notice rubberstraps tho.. or panerai 44mm's.. those look good on rubberstraps.. not sure if both are robust for sports use tho..

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[Spider boy]

you need a panerai and alot of different colour straps.

[antoniosaprozeld]

you need a panerai and alot of different colour straps.

Ur input echoed in my head like for days, and some.. so looking at some models.. so ticked 44mm, ticked roundish dial, ticked natostrap/rubber/brown leather BUT NO-NO on redundant blackfaced dial.. consider d breitling as blackdial & another target 42mm moonwatch also blackdial..

What do u guys think of a whitefaced dial? But thats so not panerai right? Hmmm..

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[rnsm1979]

you need a panerai and alot of different colour straps.

Ur input echoed in my head like for days, and some.. so looking at some models.. so ticked 44mm, ticked roundish dial, ticked natostrap/rubber/brown leather BUT NO-NO on redundant blackfaced dial.. consider d breitling as blackdial & another target 42mm moonwatch also blackdial..

What do u guys think of a whitefaced dial? But thats so not panerai right? Hmmm..

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tobacco dial for panerai ? it looks cool actually

[nikfs1881]

Personally, white dial panerai is not as appealing as the black dial.....

Why not the german watchmaking companies, Lange or GO? Or delay the purchase and go for  AP or VC instead when the right time comes?


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[Timeless]

Never go wrong with panerai

[arcsaber7]

Never go wrong with panerai

Agreed. Never go wrong with PANERAI especially the basic ETA movement.

[antoniosaprozeld]

Is that ppl refer to the white dials as, tobacco dials is it?

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[antoniosaprozeld]

Personally, white dial panerai is not as appealing as the black dial.....

Why not the german watchmaking companies, Lange or GO? Or delay the purchase and go for  AP or VC instead when the right time comes?


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Yeah, GO is something i liked.. but its quite pricy tho.. but as a start will look at which GO is 42 or 44mm.. easier to set targets

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[rnsm1979]

Is that ppl refer to the white dials as, tobacco dials is it?

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nup, there is white dial and also tobacco dial in the series

[Spider boy]

Gold hands and patina dials are my favourite. Not many watches can go with red , green, yellow and other bright colours straps and still look as good. For that price range, it's undeniable the ultimate contestant

[beaujarle]

I always feel that a Panerai is a must for watch lovers

[arcsaber7]

I always feel that a Panerai is a must for watch lovers

Yeah! Agreed. If possible, a pair of basic luminor and radiomir. Good enough.

[Danny911]

Hello, I'm new here and your post caught my attention. Well I have a soft spot for Panerai and Graham, so if it were me, I would actually change the parameters a bit and ultimately have a Chrono Graham for sports, Panerai for the formal occasion and a Tag Heuer as a daily. Just my 2 cents tho. 

[antoniosaprozeld]

Hello, I'm new here and your post caught my attention. Well I have a soft spot for Panerai and Graham, so if it were me, I would actually change the parameters a bit and ultimately have a Chrono Graham for sports, Panerai for the formal occasion and a Tag Heuer as a daily. Just my 2 cents tho. 

Did feel like keeping d 48mm graham, get a 44mm panerai and for the 42mm, either a moonwatch or the cartier santos 100 XL..

But challenge for d panerai, d ones that i like are all 47mm.. which 44mm to go for, i'm not sure.. was looking at d pam113 white dial.. also an old pam029 tuxedo dial.. would be nice to get a brown or blue dial tho.. need to learn more..

For d moonwatch, love d history but hv to find a SMP tribute to moonwatch, only those would excite me.. d black dialed manual wind, i find hard to love.. recently found out cartier santos 100 XL is 42mm.. dont think its rich in heritage.. but surely rich brand.. know any other 42mms that can include in list?

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[antoniosaprozeld]

Would be cool to hv 40, 42, 44, 46 & 48mm variety in my collection.. hey, guy shud keep dreaming while he tries right?

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[adamjohari]

Dress watch: Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Moon
Sports/Tool: Rolex Explorer ii 16570 for budget. 216570 for a little extra.
Vintage: Heuer Monaco
Ultra Dress: A Lange Sohne Saxonia

Just my rm0.02

[antoniosaprozeld]

Dress watch: Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Moon
Sports/Tool: Rolex Explorer ii 16570 for budget. 216570 for a little extra.
Vintage: Heuer Monaco
Ultra Dress: A Lange Sohne Saxonia

Just my rm0.02

Interesting.. thx for d inpit.. but is there a structure to your choice making? Or its totally free-styling it?

You see.. i'm trying to create some structure to an otherwise "ikut kata hati" situation.. thus, the accountant say lets set a parameter spread across baskets to diverse; so diff brands, sizes, straps, colors.. so after some fields are filled, you see what parameter's left & what watch might match those parameters.. then see if u like any of it..

Saja susahkan diri so have excuse why i'm not buying the watch apart from 'cant afford yet'

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[adamjohari]

Foe the JLC i thought you would like a moon phase complication in there. Plus it's an ultra thin. The 4 hardest features to create in a watch i believe is the tourbillon, chronograph, ultra thin and minute repeater. The chronograph and ultra thin are within reach of most people.

If you wanted a real tool watch that you wouldnt mind banging around, rolex seems the way to go. Also, it uses a steel strap so it gives a better "tool" vibe as compared to the dressier JLC above.

The Heuer Monaco vintage, or even the new one is square in shape. Brings a lot of history and pedigree to the line up. An alternative would be the golden ratio JLC reversos, where you can hide the front part to display the back. Back then it was used to play polo, but i believe the reverso nowadays is more to a dress watch.

Lange to me is the peak of watch making. I regard them higher than PP imho. Just one look at the back of the datograph would make ur eyes light up in happiness. I tried the saxonia on my wrist once, and it exuded a quality that was so much more than the JLC i tried.

[antoniosaprozeld]

Foe the JLC i thought you would like a moon phase complication in there. Plus it's an ultra thin. The 4 hardest features to create in a watch i believe is the tourbillon, chronograph, ultra thin and minute repeater. The chronograph and ultra thin are within reach of most people.

If you wanted a real tool watch that you wouldnt mind banging around, rolex seems the way to go. Also, it uses a steel strap so it gives a better "tool" vibe as compared to the dressier JLC above.

The Heuer Monaco vintage, or even the new one is square in shape. Brings a lot of history and pedigree to the line up. An alternative would be the golden ratio JLC reversos, where you can hide the front part to display the back. Back then it was used to play polo, but i believe the reverso nowadays is more to a dress watch.

Lange to me is the peak of watch making. I regard them higher than PP imho. Just one look at the back of the datograph would make ur eyes light up in happiness. I tried the saxonia on my wrist once, and it exuded a quality that was so much more than the JLC i tried.

Turning ur input into something more structured would be to add complications into the variety specs; ie. Brand, size, shape, color, strap AND COMPLICATION..

So whats the variety of complications?
1. Normal minute hour seconds
2. With date
3. With day date
4. Perpetual
5. GMT
6. Chrono

Would u categorise tourbillion or ultra thin as complications?

Or would u include tourbillion into dial colors variety parameter?

& add thickness as additional parameter so you can have ultra thin JLC and extra think Deep Sea?

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[zjchen]

Tour billion is definitely a complication. Annual calendar too before u go to perpetual. Also many other crazy ones like minute repeaters etc.

Not sure about everyone but diving watches to me is another complication.


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[antoniosaprozeld]

Lets list it;
1. Normal minute hour seconds
2. With date
3. With day date
4. Annual calendar
5. Perpetual
6. GMT
7. Chrono
8. Minute repeater
9. Tourbillion

How wld u rank them tho?


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