Author Topic: Disgracing originality...  (Read 21091 times)

Offline kltime

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 310
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2010, 12:19:15 PM »
Only crazies like us are willing to plunge in RM30k-40k on a tiny STAINLESS STEEL mechnical watch!   ;D

Don't la drive it in pulak... :)

Anyway, 4 me I hv a personal limit on how much I wld pay 4 a watch. Above that sum,4 me u r already paying more for the branding and your personal connection/attraction to the brand rather than the watch/movement/complication/etc. But thats me, 2 each his own. Finance man la...always consider the $ and sen. And is definitely not 30-40k...envy you guys...

Offline David_cheong

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1772
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2010, 12:27:07 PM »
Did I mention that at one time my accumulation of watches, its value is equivalent to x years of my annual salary? Yes I was crazy then, like most of us here. No known antidote to cure at that point of time. But surely and slowly, time has healed.

But as I look at it, I dared say I am still a recovering addicts and to redeem myself, I have to start a new life with less watches. Get a new lease of life by getting more sunshine and more passionate with other nice things in life.

Go for a nice holiday more often, indulge in good food, make a pledge to do things you never have done before, explore other new venture, etc, etc. 

Yes, nowadays, not fully recovered, I (still) have passion and urge to indulge sound interest on watches but at controlled pace on its acquisitions.

My 2 cts.

dc
I am almost a recovered watchaholic, but last checked shows only 70% recovered. How?

Offline adrian

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2010, 12:37:32 PM »
Not only i know this guy, i also know another guy who been selling a so called super high grade replica.In which i would never in life put my money on it as the price is simply outrageous. It cost at around 2k for a so called good replica of ullyese nardin, rolex and hublot. Unbelievable that someone actually put their hard earn money , that much on something clearly a fake.

And to my surprise, he told me his client is neither a commoner like me. They are the VIP's , the who's who...and some underground riches, who names never appeared in public. Some of his client can afford (and even actually do it) buying an Alphard with cold hard cash...not cheque...seriously cash... and yet, they regularly purchase watch from this dude...sometime they bought it as a gift (so we wonder whether he genuinely ikhlas or not) sometime he get it for himself and similar to that guy i know, he rotated it with his original...

i havent reach that stage where i can afford a PAM...and later in life when i am able to do that, i dont know whether i would do the same as the guy above, but for now clearly i dont quite agree with what they do. Especially using a fake PAM and tell story about the original PAM they kept at home....Maybe i might get another one or two homage and be truth about it...

someone mention about that Dato wearing the hublot, at least he has the guts to admit that it is not the real deal....hehehehhehe

Those 2k high grade replicas are a major problem. I wanted to look at pre-owned PAM but bcoz these high end reps exist and I can't tell the difference, there's always the thought of being scammed. The same thing with buying one from the actual owner. How do you know if the person is selling the real thing since it comes with box+papers. Not that the owner is trying to cheat but he could have bought a high end rep without know it. So end up getting from AD which has its plus points as well in terms of affordability.

Offline gapper

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
    • allen's posterous
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2010, 01:13:07 PM »
Did I mention that at one time my accumulation of watches, its value is equivalent to x years of my annual salary? Yes I was crazy then, like most of us here. No known antidote to cure at that point of time. But surely and slowly, time has healed.

But as I look at it, I dared say I am still a recovering addicts and to redeem myself, I have to start a new life with less watches. Get a new lease of life by getting more sunshine and more passionate with other nice things in life.

Go for a nice holiday more often, indulge in good food, make a pledge to do things you never have done before, explore other new venture, etc, etc. 

Yes, nowadays, not fully recovered, I (still) have passion and urge to indulge sound interest on watches but at controlled pace on its acquisitions.

My 2 cts.

dc


well said dc.  :thumbsup:
every single word speak every single bit in my mind.

Offline Gigi

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1176
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2010, 01:55:25 PM »
I saw some ppl with a rolex gmt pepsi when i was waiting for someone. I told him "whoa nice rolex, can i have a look?" Then he let me see his watch, when i turn to the backcase i knew it is a fake one cause the backmarking was meant for the Sea-Dweller. Then the person told me it was gift from his dad, of cos i did not tell him it a fake and give him back the watch.

I also saw a fake panerai with a heartbeat (ala federique contant).  :HammerHead: :HammerHead:

Hmm in my opinion, i rather spend my $ on a seiko/G-shock then a high quality fake. I dont care ppl say I got no taste or what, so long I am happy with the watches  :HammerHead:

Offline gapper

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
    • allen's posterous
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2010, 03:08:02 PM »
well.. some ppl buy watch just merely to fulfill their desire to show off on status.
hey, giving u a scenario... if u happen to see someone driving a C-class... did u dare to say the Rollie he wears is 100% ori? i don't think so... happen to know some... none of them wear genuine piece.

just solely my own view.. no offense to other tai kos... ok..

Offline steveting

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 149
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2010, 03:24:20 PM »
2k for a replica watch...thats insane..i rather buy a "original"seiko!! what they want is the BRAND!! like many toyota owners like to switch the logo to Lexus..thats lame..

Offline terrenceterrence

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2476
    • scrapsofmylife
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2010, 03:31:44 PM »
2k for a replica watch...thats insane..i rather buy a "original"seiko!! what they want is the BRAND!! like many toyota owners like to switch the logo to Lexus..thats lame..

that reminds me of the "Wiralution" during my days  :Laughing_on_floor:

Better outrun my gun....faster than my bullet


Offline Scott C.

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2345
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2010, 04:12:36 PM »
Guys, personally i do not support anyone to buy fake/replica at any reason...

Just be careful on the discussion, don't swing too far to favore fake/replica and I trust all our members are very well aware it's not "right" to support fake / replica in MWF  :thumbsup:

Offline adrian

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2010, 09:39:08 PM »
Hmm in my opinion, i rather spend my $ on a seiko/G-shock then a high quality fake. I dont care ppl say I got no taste or what, so long I am happy with the watches  :HammerHead:

True dat brother!  :thumbsup:

Offline mnazri.tan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 824
  • Time As It Is
    • Time As It Is.....
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2010, 09:46:58 AM »
Dear Scott..

Yes we do not support the fake industry.It is wrong in many level.

I think what we are doing here is purely admitting in reality, it happen..and purely discussing everyone opinion on this matter. I think we can summarize at least 70% against it...

I hope you dont see this as offensive. I think this type of discussion will help especially for the newbies, as sometime there are people who are not aware that buying fake is wrong. Reading comments like this create awareness but ultimately decision is on their hand, but at the very least we make people realize what is what and why is why...

just my 2 cents obviously :)

Offline sshark

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1832
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2010, 10:26:26 AM »
I find it strange where some who keep the real and wear the fake most of the time. What's the point? It is not like the real watch value will appreciate with time. If you want to keep the watch as an investment why buy the fake? just buy the real and keep. I jsut don't understand the logic. like the saying, the money is not yours until u spent it. same goes with the watch.

Offline David_cheong

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1772
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2010, 11:59:04 AM »
Dear Scott..

Yes we do not support the fake industry.It is wrong in many level.

I think what we are doing here is purely admitting in reality, it happen..and purely discussing everyone opinion on this matter. I think we can summarize at least 70% against it...

I hope you dont see this as offensive. I think this type of discussion will help especially for the newbies, as sometime there are people who are not aware that buying fake is wrong. Reading comments like this create awareness but ultimately decision is on their hand, but at the very least we make people realize what is what and why is why...

just my 2 cents obviously :)

Well said - mnazri. tan

Like the kung-fu master said, he has attained purity, that is, able to see ' The meaningful of life' / or the philosophy of master hood, and we as WIS able to differentiate 'right from wrong' on many points discussed on this subject issue.

Fakes are sometimes not all wrong. Take for example, Mona Lisa...You can see many replicas / duplicates / copies (read fake) master piece around the world. What do we see in them. These (replicas) master piece are there for all to enjoy viewing, when the real piece is in safe hand.

My 2 cts
dc
I am almost a recovered watchaholic, but last checked shows only 70% recovered. How?

Offline kltime

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 310
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2010, 12:22:15 PM »
2k for a replica watch...thats insane..i rather buy a "original"seiko!! what they want is the BRAND!! like many toyota owners like to switch the logo to Lexus..thats lame..

Whether we accept it or not, status and therefore being seen with the "right" brand is important to a lot of ppl...Drive merc/bmw(cannot buy fake :laugh:), live at upmarket house/condo ( oso kenot fake...) , wear branded watch/hand bag/etc ( unfortunately all these items are fake-able :Mad:...).

I don't condone fakes either,but I do know also a Seiko wld not be seen as the "right" brand to these ppl,unless they are WIS also...

Offline kltime

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 310
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2010, 12:24:51 PM »

However come 2 think abt it...I remember Roman Abromovich Chelsea's Gazillion worth club owner only wearing an
"affordable"... I think its a Casio..

Offline terrenceterrence

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2476
    • scrapsofmylife
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2010, 04:16:09 PM »

However come 2 think abt it...I remember Roman Abromovich Chelsea's Gazillion worth club owner only wearing an
"affordable"... I think its a Casio..

Polar

LKS wears wears seiko
Better outrun my gun....faster than my bullet


Offline sshark

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1832
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2010, 05:25:31 PM »
It would be better for Lim Kit Siang to wear a Seiko  rather than a rolex.

Offline terrenceterrence

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2476
    • scrapsofmylife
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2010, 05:48:16 PM »
It would be better for Lim Kit Siang to wear a Seiko  rather than a rolex.

eh the LKS i am referring to is Asia Superman, Cheung Kong Holding's Chairman
Better outrun my gun....faster than my bullet


Offline G.MAC

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1895
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2010, 07:29:28 PM »
some are just not that into watches. watches are just a means of keeping time
Your ONLY job in this world is to make sure that you are happy

Offline terrenceterrence

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2476
    • scrapsofmylife
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2010, 07:36:29 PM »
the moral of the story is that ppl who are uber rich also does not need fakes.

why should a plebian like us?

Better outrun my gun....faster than my bullet


Offline dennis.T

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1507
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2010, 09:49:26 PM »
can i assume this is generation gap??? my 60yo ex-boss drive a latest S-class but with fake rolex and his 36yo son drive a Porsche Caynne with genuine Daytona and Submariner.... some more the old man ask me why his son need a so powerful car? how fast he can drive in SG? SG express way max speed is 90km/h nia.... :Laughing_on_floor:

i dnt support Rep if you cant afford the real 1 thn you can go for homage...

Offline kltime

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 310
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2010, 07:54:08 AM »

Obama the most powder-ful man in thw world oso non-Wis, now wear quartz Jorg Gray chrono( which I tot I saw newspaper ad in Star 2-3 wks ago...). B4 that Tag Heuer Aquaracer (quartz oso!!?).

Anybody has any idea wat our PM has on his wrist?

Offline jacky8888

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 981
  • More than meets the eye
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2010, 10:19:44 AM »

Obama the most powder-ful man in thw world oso non-Wis, now wear quartz Jorg Gray chrono( which I tot I saw newspaper ad in Star 2-3 wks ago...). B4 that Tag Heuer Aquaracer (quartz oso!!?).

Anybody has any idea wat our PM has on his wrist?
our PM is a PAM fan....
Jacky Wong

Offline adrian

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2010, 10:30:22 AM »

Obama the most powder-ful man in thw world oso non-Wis, now wear quartz Jorg Gray chrono( which I tot I saw newspaper ad in Star 2-3 wks ago...). B4 that Tag Heuer Aquaracer (quartz oso!!?).

Anybody has any idea wat our PM has on his wrist?
our PM is a PAM fan....

Most of the time I see him wearing this.


Offline Cocas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2924
Re: Disgracing originality...
« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2016, 02:26:45 PM »
Borrowing from Oris slogan : real watches for real people.

Vice versa and following the logic: fake watches for fake people.    :Laughing_on_floor:
« Last Edit: July 31, 2016, 03:07:27 PM by Cocas »