Author Topic: New Rolex Datejust 2 or Pre-own Submariner (Read 9343 times)

tancho · « **on:** January 24, 2014, 12:06:58 PM »

A colleague asked me if he should get a brand new Datejust 2 SS (for around RM18,xxx, with higher discount from grey dealer) or a pre-owned Submariner 16610 for approximately RM17K - RM18K plus. He's also contemplating a pre-owned Sub 16610LV.

Basically he can't make up his mind coz he's torn between getting a brand new Datejust 2 SS for RM18K plus or a pre-owned Sub for only slightly less or just as much (the LV model).

FYI, he said all 3 models "sing" to him; it's only a matter of whether he should spend the moola on a brand new or pre-owned watch that's bugging him.

I told him I'd pose the question here to seek the sifus comments.

What would you tell him?

Rgds

Yoda · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2014, 12:49:18 PM »

Dear tancho

I have this situation too. Finally I decided to get the older discontinued model as the new ones he still can get it later.

But really have to be confident that the preowned ones are in good condition.

manSubmariner · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2014, 12:52:45 PM »

Imo- save money until he can buy new 16610, dont rush or he will end up with something less or he didnt like much...

iamyourfazaaa · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2014, 06:02:27 PM »

I would get the LV. Or the 116610LN.

joskovic · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2014, 07:50:27 PM »

the Datejust and Sub is 2 different watches. 1 dressier and the latter being more sporty. it's all depends on his personal preference... ask him a few questions then it might be easier for him to decide what he need (to get first, we know it's not going to be the last

)

1. what's the occasion? is it a daily beater or weekend watch or dinner?
2. what's his usual dress code? semi-formal, shirts or jeans with t-shirt etc..
3. how old is he?

if he is into a more classy/dressie look, i would say go for the Datejust.
if not, I would say the Sub is more like an all rounder.

hope it helps

dennis.T · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2014, 08:01:04 PM »

Even submariner can be all round watch. You can make it as dress watch by put it on with leather strap

Like other mentioned Profession and age is key info for us to answer your question..

tancho · « **Reply #6 on:** January 24, 2014, 08:23:32 PM »

Thanks to all who gave their insights

He's in his late forties, professional and is quite laid-back and casual. From my perception, both the dressier Datejust 2 or the Sub would suit him as a daily beater. He's basically undecided on getting the new piece or the pre-owned one as both are quite close cost wise.

Not necessarily a bad dilemma to be in, though

dualcarb · « **Reply #7 on:** January 24, 2014, 08:56:38 PM »

If it is a first Rolex purchase, I would go for the DJ II. It will go with suits, jeans and shorts as well. I would rather buy new as compared to preloved. I understand that a discontinued model is more "special"...I would rather go with peace of mind since the watch is new...just my two cents...

PN

tancho · « **Reply #8 on:** January 24, 2014, 09:06:02 PM »

Quote from: dualcarb on January 24, 2014, 08:56:38 PM

If it is a first Rolex purchase, I would go for the DJ II. It will go with suits, jeans and shorts as well. I would rather buy new as compared to preloved. I understand that a discontinued model is more "special"...I would rather go with peace of mind since the watch is new...just my two cents...

PN

Very sensible

jason_recliner · « **Reply #9 on:** January 25, 2014, 05:30:53 AM »

Does he want a dress watch or a dive watch?

tancho · « **Reply #10 on:** January 25, 2014, 06:29:48 AM »

Quote from: jason_recliner on January 25, 2014, 05:30:53 AM

Does he want a dress watch or a dive watch?

I think he doesn't mind either. Going by logic, he should get a dress watch as he already has a dive watch of a different make (that's what I told him). But apparently he doesn't mind another. However, he did say he was going back to the AD to have another look at the datejust 2, so I reckon he's leaning towards the new piece.

manSubmariner · « **Reply #11 on:** January 25, 2014, 06:41:42 AM »

Quote from: dualcarb on January 24, 2014, 08:56:38 PM

If it is a first Rolex purchase, I would go for the DJ II. It will go with suits, jeans and shorts as well. I would rather buy new as compared to preloved. I understand that a discontinued model is more "special"...I would rather go with peace of mind since the watch is new...just my two cents...

PN

Well said man..

Azi · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2014, 10:12:55 PM »

Perhaps he should try both at the shop. I have recently done so and found the DJ2 to wear quite larger than the 16610. And I am inclined to the DJ2 instead, or rather my wrist haha..

erin8817 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2014, 08:38:40 AM »

My 2 cents.
Since your friend is considering pre-owned for both Sub and Sub LV, it seems his heart is keen towards the Sub. The only obstacle is pre-owned issue and $$ for brand new Sub.
Why not wait for a few more months, save a few more thousand and then go for a BNIB Sub. BNIB SubC Date 116610LN cost around RM23,xxx.
If he get the Datejust now, he'll still yearn for the Sub and will end up buying the Sub in the future. In the end, he'll end up spending more $
Cure the bug now and go for the Sub.
(although the bug will eventually come back in the form of other more fine timepieces, ie PP, ALS, AP..it never ends)
If any fellow WIS has a cure for the bug, please share the vaccine

contender · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:00:23 AM »

What is the difference with all the terminology used by grey dealers ...... Brand New In Box (BNIB), some list as NEW ?? What about undated warranty cards ?

theseira · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:23:26 AM »

I'd get subby.

erin8817 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:02:39 AM »

Quote from: contender on January 30, 2014, 09:00:23 AM

What is the difference with all the terminology used by grey dealers ...... Brand New In Box (BNIB), some list as NEW ?? What about undated warranty cards ?

AFAIK, BNIB are watches that are parralel imports or bought by grey dealers. The warranty card will show the watch are sold by overseas ADs, ie Italy, HK, Japan etc. The warranty start date maybe one/two month earlier.
However, all Rolex carry international warranty.

Example of the watch sales cycle.
New vs BNIB

New: Rolex> AD > customer
BNIB: Rolex> AD > grey dealers/bulk purchaser> customer

Again this just my2cents.

farhanbh100 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2014, 12:22:58 PM »

new dj2!

pexus · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2014, 06:02:40 AM »

tell your friend there's a possibility he'll end up having both....so maybe this dilemma is just a matter of which one he should own....

GMTmaster · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:17:04 PM »

Quote from: pexus on January 31, 2014, 06:02:40 AM

tell your friend there's a possibility he'll ended up having both....so maybe this dilemma is just a matter of which one he should own....

haha...

what a fortune teller....

Calibr · « **Reply #20 on:** February 04, 2014, 08:10:48 AM »

IMHO, Datejust looks better in two tone.. so a pre-owned Sub would be a better choice between the 2. However, bear in mind that if the pre-owned Sub is more than 5 years old, you might want to factor in an additional overhaul service by RSC which cost around RM2k.

ndtaan · « **Reply #21 on:** February 04, 2014, 10:13:33 AM »

The age old 20million dollars question;This or That........
Have fun while you're at it

meoramri · « **Reply #22 on:** February 04, 2014, 10:51:03 AM »

Not getting either is also an option. If your friend needs advice on what he wants to get with his hard-earned money, he is not ready to make that choice.

jason_recliner · « **Reply #23 on:** February 05, 2014, 04:05:24 AM »

Quote from: meoramri on February 04, 2014, 10:51:03 AM

Not getting either is also an option. If your friend needs advice on what he wants to get with his hard-earned money, he is not ready to make that choice.

Yep.

enkil · « **Reply #24 on:** February 12, 2014, 01:44:15 AM »

Nice dilemma to have

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Author Topic: New Rolex Datejust 2 or Pre-own Submariner (Read 9343 times)