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Title: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: kevlee on June 13, 2013, 09:31:29 PM
As the subject above....G shock, Luminox, Victorinox....This only I know.....Meanwhile, is there any special brand made for specific country army??
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: dpkong on June 13, 2013, 09:49:41 PM
Where's Enkidu when he's needed???

Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: TheHobbit on June 13, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
As the subject above....G shock, Luminox, Victorinox....This only I know.....Meanwhile, is there any special brand made for specific country army??

What are you looking for? Issued watches? Military inspired watches?
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: Godzillaz on June 14, 2013, 08:02:37 AM
I guess I can count as one. Can you be more specific on what you are looking for?

The only G-Shock I know with military linkage is the Sky Cockpit. The rest of them are bought off the shelf by the military personnel or purchase department. I suspect even with the Sky Cockpit it don't see any military action.

Regard
Tyler
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: bezelnut on June 14, 2013, 10:40:20 AM
Actually I'm also interested into military watches, not military related marketing or inspired, but real military issued vintage.

Lets keep this good thread going, and every info and help is greatly appreciated.

Some pics borrow from the internet, showing why military vintage watches rocks.  ;D
Bulova A15 with two inner bezel. Issued during WWII.
(http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/watches/1944BulovaMilitaryA15_11262011.jpg?1322315515)
(http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/watches/1944BulovaMilitaryA15_21126.jpg?1322315515)
(http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/watches/1944BulovaMilitaryA15_31126.jpg?1322315515)
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: Everdying on June 14, 2013, 11:15:25 AM
if thats the case, got plenty out there.
from omega to rolex to seiko.
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: CKL1213 on June 14, 2013, 11:29:56 AM
perhaps if you feel like joining the expendables get a Panerai
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: bezelnut on June 14, 2013, 11:45:17 AM
As the subject above....G shock, Luminox, Victorinox....This only I know.....Meanwhile, is there any special brand made for specific country army??

If you are looking for military watch for today's soldier, look at CWC (Cabot Watch Company), they are supplying watches to British army forces since the 70's.

(http://www.mailboxcentres.com/images/cwc_chronograph.jpg)
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: watzisname on June 14, 2013, 02:20:10 PM
As the subject above....G shock, Luminox, Victorinox....This only I know.....Meanwhile, is there any special brand made for specific country army??

If you are looking for military watch for today's soldier, look at CWC (Cabot Watch Company), they are supplying watches to British army forces since the 70's.

(http://www.mailboxcentres.com/images/cwc_chronograph.jpg)

Is this the CWC that made the Nautilus lookalike?
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: jason_recliner on June 14, 2013, 02:22:23 PM
According to those currently serving, the most popular watches in the military are G-Shocks. Several have been issued, but I don't know which ones off the top of my head.

As mentioned above, CWC have been issued to the British forces. Precista, too (the older models, not the new ones by Eddie at TZUK). A couple of Seiko chronos were issued to the RAF in the 80s.

The Sinn EZM1was issued to German special forces. Possibly some other models, too.

Some Gallet chronos have been issued to at least one air force.

Going back a bit further, IWC, JLC, Stowa, Laco, and Omega have all been issued at various times.

And then there is what many collectors would consider the grail, the Mil Sub.

So many to choose from... Depending on your budget, you could spend $100 or $100,000. Enjoy the hunt, and post pics of your acquisition!
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: kevlee on June 14, 2013, 03:14:49 PM
As the subject above....G shock, Luminox, Victorinox....This only I know.....Meanwhile, is there any special brand made for specific country army??

If you are looking for military watch for today's soldier, look at CWC (Cabot Watch Company), they are supplying watches to British army forces since the 70's.

(http://www.mailboxcentres.com/images/cwc_chronograph.jpg)

Yes, this is what I meant...I forget where I read before, Luminox issue watches for Swiss and Brunei army.
Penerai initially for Italian soldier and etc.

Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: kevlee on June 14, 2013, 03:21:45 PM
perhaps if you feel like joining the expendables get a Panerai

Wow! This one is totally out of budget at this moment. Wondering is Italian army still have this watch on their wrist??
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: jason_recliner on June 14, 2013, 03:26:37 PM
No, Panerai hasn't been a military watch for about 70 years.

OP, what is your budget? Are you looking for a modern military watch (i.e. quartz, probably digital) or vintage?
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: Enkidu on June 14, 2013, 03:58:38 PM
Actually I'm also interested into military watches, not military related marketing or inspired, but real military issued vintage.

Lets keep this good thread going, and every info and help is greatly appreciated.


Like you, I got very interested in military timepieces in particular those from the 2nd world war era a few years back. The internet was not too helpful at that time, so the only good source of information was printed books; one of which is ZM Wesolowski's "Military Timepieces 1880 - 1990".

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/military_zps04e5498d.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/military_zps04e5498d.jpg.html)

The book was published in 1996, so you can imagine the information contained in which is at least 17 years old. Notwithstanding its age, this book is still a good starting point for one to learn more about military watches from that period. Of course, one still cannot say the book provides the"history" of these watches because this is just a secondary material and I believe we'll need to get corroboration from primary sources before we can call anything history. But anyone wanting to know more about military timepieces should get a copy of this book (if it's still in publication) :thumbsup:.....

Some pages to give you some idea.....

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/military2_zps1cfc4263.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/military2_zps1cfc4263.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/military4_zps79683d12.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/military4_zps79683d12.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/military3_zps7c570d13.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/military3_zps7c570d13.jpg.html)

Enjoy..... :laugh:
   
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: Enkidu on June 14, 2013, 04:07:30 PM
Sorry....I think the pictures above appeared up side down.... ;D

Anyway, one of the watches featured in the book was a Siegerin made for Kriegsmarine (KM - the german navy).....

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/military7_zps0cc4a1d3.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/military7_zps0cc4a1d3.jpg.html)

I managed to purchase a Siegerin some years back. Unfortunately the dial was refurbished and the plexi glass (probably not the original one) is cracked. All these of course adversely affect its value and collectability...

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/military6_zps21282535.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/military6_zps21282535.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/military5_zps07409150.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/military5_zps07409150.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: GMTmaster on June 14, 2013, 07:40:06 PM
kevlee, this might be a bit expensive. I quite like it though. JLC Master Compression Diving GMT Navy Seal... (  ??? hehe not sure if I got the name right. )

Anyway. Happy hunting... which is the fun part.
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: jason_recliner on June 14, 2013, 08:29:44 PM
kevlee, this might be a bit expensive. I quite like it though. JLC Master Compression Diving GMT Navy Seal... (  ??? hehe not sure if I got the name right. )

Anyway. Happy hunting... which is the fun part.

This is not a military watch.  It was 'tested' by some SEALs in a cynical marketing exercise.
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: CKL1213 on June 14, 2013, 08:40:43 PM
do you really think Navy Seal will wear a USD 9,000 ++ watch on duty?

Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: kevlee on June 14, 2013, 08:42:16 PM
No, Panerai hasn't been a military watch for about 70 years.

OP, what is your budget? Are you looking for a modern military watch (i.e. quartz, probably digital) or vintage?

Quartz is good enough for me, and I am still young, not yet as an vintage watch collector.  Within 2k is acceptable for my current income.  Sorry, I read from the newspaper few weeks ago mentioning Penerai was produced to Italian army, but don't really know that they have stop producing for the army usage so long ago.  Not bad strategy by Penerai since it could convert from a military producer to fashion/premium/pricey watch.......
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: kevlee on June 14, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
do you really think Navy Seal will wear a USD 9,000 ++ watch on duty?

 :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: not really, but probably during their clubbing session or meeting their future father or mother in law...........
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: CKL1213 on June 14, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
Not bad strategy by Penerai since it could convert from a military producer to fashion/premium/pricey watch

they now supply to mercenaries group lead by a previous boxer, ex-green beret and most notably the guy who saved people in a New York tunnel.
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: watzisname on June 15, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
If you don't mind quartz how bout these Seikos that Enkidu posted pics of:

(http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/images/1000/702/main_b206_seiko_gen_1_4927_3.jpg)

(http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/images/1000/699/main_b206_seiko_gen_2_1391_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: harkensng on June 15, 2013, 03:17:12 PM
If you don't mind quartz how bout these Seikos that Enkidu posted pics of:

(http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/images/1000/702/main_b206_seiko_gen_1_4927_3.jpg)

(http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/images/1000/699/main_b206_seiko_gen_2_1391_b.jpg)

Both the RAF gen 1 and gen 2 watches are quite rare :Startled:
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: Erap on June 15, 2013, 04:06:22 PM
Citizen military camo dial and strap

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w499/pamristi/A6C277F9-3AB7-4FAE-A4F2-53E2736A3AFE-181-00000009CBECA6B5.jpg)
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: CKL1213 on June 15, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
Citizen military camo dial and strap

will have no problem matching the camo suite
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: watzisname on June 15, 2013, 05:35:25 PM
If you don't mind quartz how bout these Seikos that Enkidu posted pics of:

(http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/images/1000/702/main_b206_seiko_gen_1_4927_3.jpg)

(http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/images/1000/699/main_b206_seiko_gen_2_1391_b.jpg)

Both the RAF gen 1 and gen 2 watches are quite rare :Startled:

I saw some selling on the Internet
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: kevlee on June 16, 2013, 08:25:48 AM
Citizen military camo dial and strap

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w499/pamristi/A6C277F9-3AB7-4FAE-A4F2-53E2736A3AFE-181-00000009CBECA6B5.jpg)

Friend.......this one is cool!!!!! where you buy it??
how much then??
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: Erap on June 16, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
Citizen military camo dial and strap

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w499/pamristi/A6C277F9-3AB7-4FAE-A4F2-53E2736A3AFE-181-00000009CBECA6B5.jpg)

Friend.......this one is cool!!!!! where you buy it??
how much then??

Pm sent
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: bezelnut on June 16, 2013, 08:47:42 PM

Is this the CWC that made the Nautilus lookalike?

No. That is produce by Classic Watch Company, but not to be confuse with a watch dealer in UK with the same name. Google search will only yeild the later. The CWC who make Nautilus lookalike is much more shaddy organisation, no official website, no address, and apparenly the Nautilus is the only model I saw their name on it.


Quartz is good enough for me, and I am still young, not yet as an vintage watch collector.  Within 2k is acceptable for my current income.  Sorry, I read from the newspaper few weeks ago mentioning Penerai was produced to Italian army, but don't really know that they have stop producing for the army usage so long ago.  Not bad strategy by Penerai since it could convert from a military producer to fashion/premium/pricey watch.......

Nothing wrong with a young bloke to go vintage. In fact, I'll give a higher respect for a young man with tasteful vintage on his wrist anyday. 2K is a very good start for vitage, and you might get more than one watch with that budget.
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: Maverick27 on June 16, 2013, 10:57:12 PM
BR03-92 Military Ceramic :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: watzisname on June 17, 2013, 07:47:05 AM

Is this the CWC that made the Nautilus lookalike?

No. That is produce by Classic Watch Company, but not to be confuse with a watch dealer in UK with the same name. Google search will only yeild the later. The CWC who make Nautilus lookalike is much more shaddy organisation, no official website, no address, and apparenly the Nautilus is the only model I saw their name on it.


Quartz is good enough for me, and I am still young, not yet as an vintage watch collector.  Within 2k is acceptable for my current income.  Sorry, I read from the newspaper few weeks ago mentioning Penerai was produced to Italian army, but don't really know that they have stop producing for the army usage so long ago.  Not bad strategy by Penerai since it could convert from a military producer to fashion/premium/pricey watch.......

Nothing wrong with a young bloke to go vintage. In fact, I'll give a higher respect for a young man with tasteful vintage on his wrist anyday. 2K is a very good start for vitage, and you might get more than one watch with that budget.

Can't find any info on that "CWC". Only Classic Watch Company I found was a pre-owned shop in UK
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: bezelnut on June 17, 2013, 09:08:41 AM
Can't find any info on that "CWC". Only Classic Watch Company I found was a pre-owned shop in UK

As I said, it is shaddy.
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: Enkidu on June 17, 2013, 09:26:27 AM
Can't find any info on that "CWC". Only Classic Watch Company I found was a pre-owned shop in UK

As I said, it is shaddy.

The company that makes military watches is Cabot Watch Company (CWC). You should be able to find some information about their watches at the military watch forum also.

Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: bezelnut on June 17, 2013, 10:05:09 AM
The company that makes military watches is Cabot Watch Company (CWC). You should be able to find some information about their watches at the military watch forum also.

To clear things up, here's a clarification.

1st CWC
Cabot Watch Company
Description: Nice watch company making nice utility watches, officially supplying watches for British Army forces since 70's.
(http://www.armywatch.co.uk/images/home_main.jpg)

2nd CWC
Classic Watch Company Ltd.
Description: A respectable watch dealer based in Brighton, UK. Owned by a man called Martin Kaye.
(http://www.classicwatchcompany.com/images/shopfront.jpg)

3rd CWC or WCC
Classic Watch Company (watchmaker)
Description: A shaddy company without official website, no valid address or any corporate information. Known for making high quality PP Nautilus Homage watch.
(http://uhrforum.de/attachments/527618d1354886739t-cwc-nemo-3.jpg)

Hopefully this will help.
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Post by: watzisname on June 17, 2013, 02:23:13 PM
That shady PP homage looks awfully nice though; just saying..  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: TheHobbit on June 18, 2013, 09:47:14 PM
Have you decided which way you want to go on the military watch front. I am not expert, but I do like military watches and military inspired watches and watches used by people in the military (not issued). Are you looking at a simple quartz model or mechanical? Are you looking at American issued or inspired watches? British? Australian? Italian? German? Others? What is you budget?

You can start with simple and cheap (but some say not robust) watches like the Pulsar. They are simple watches and don't cost a bomb to buy. Most goes for about RM200. Then you have the CWC/ Precista watches. These are the original issued ones (to the British military), like the W10 or others (Royal Navy, RAF or even the Marines). They are nice and not so cheap. But can be had for below RM500.

If you are looking at mechanical watches, you have the W.W.W. watches. Again to the British army. There are a number of makers (12) and price range is pretty large. The popular brands are Cyma, Omega and IWC. I am looking to get one as well (between an Omega, IWC or Longines). OF course I would love to get an IWC mk xi....

There are other like the Tudor MN Subs and the Rolex Milsub.  ;D

The most important thing is to buy the seller and be careful. There are many franken watches as are there fakes. Try to get them verified, but note that this can add extra to the price of the watch, for example, an IWC military with a cert from IWC itself can add plenty to the cost of the watch as you have to send the watch back to IWC for verification and that can take sometime.

All the best with the hunt.
Title: Re: Military watch....Any Fans out there?? Any brand could recommended??
Post by: bezelnut on June 19, 2013, 09:31:06 AM
Have you decided which way you want to go on the military watch front. I am not expert, but I do like military watches and military inspired watches and watches used by people in the military (not issued). Are you looking at a simple quartz model or mechanical? Are you looking at American issued or inspired watches? British? Australian? Italian? German? Others? What is you budget?

You can start with simple and cheap (but some say not robust) watches like the Pulsar. They are simple watches and don't cost a bomb to buy. Most goes for about RM200. Then you have the CWC/ Precista watches. These are the original issued ones (to the British military), like the W10 or others (Royal Navy, RAF or even the Marines). They are nice and not so cheap. But can be had for below RM500.

If you are looking at mechanical watches, you have the W.W.W. watches. Again to the British army. There are a number of makers (12) and price range is pretty large. The popular brands are Cyma, Omega and IWC. I am looking to get one as well (between an Omega, IWC or Longines). OF course I would love to get an IWC mk xi....

There are other like the Tudor MN Subs and the Rolex Milsub.  ;D

The most important thing is to buy the seller and be careful. There are many franken watches as are there fakes. Try to get them verified, but note that this can add extra to the price of the watch, for example, an IWC military with a cert from IWC itself can add plenty to the cost of the watch as you have to send the watch back to IWC for verification and that can take sometime.

All the best with the hunt.

This guide is comprehensive. Thank you so much.