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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: wslee on April 19, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
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Note:I dont create this all by myself,just happen to find this over askmen.com. Thought sharing with you all and lastly no offense to who love rolex
Arguments against Rolex
Rolex Movements Are Over-Hyped
First, the movement quality of your run-of-the-mill Rolex is nothing special. In fact, many much more affordable Swiss watches use movements that keep time just as well. To add insult to injury, there are even some Chinese, Japanese and Russian movements that are just as -- if not more -- accurate as a standard Rolex movement.
Rolex Watches Look Stale
Rolex’s designs are stale. This brand hasn’t released a truly new model in over a decade, and the majority of the watches it makes today are exact duplicates of the watches it made half a century ago. In fact, the biggest innovation it has made in recent years is a new metal called “Rolesor,” which is heavily advertised as a great new substance for watchmaking. Guess what; it’s just steel and gold.
Rolex Stories Are Nothing But A Myth
All those stories you hear about Rolexes being chosen as the watch for great adventures are only half true. For example, Rolex claims Sir Edmund Hillary wore an Explorer when he scaled the summit of Mount Everest for the first time. This is not the case. In fact, he only carried the Explorer until he reached the summit and then put on a watch from a small British company called Smiths. Hillary even wrote a signed letter endorsement to Smiths stating: “I carried your watch to the summit and it worked perfectly.” Rolex also submitted a watch to NASA in the early ‘60s to be considered for use in the moon missions. We all know how that turned out.
Rolex Watches Are For Seniors Or Rappers
It is rare for a brand to be considered both stodgy and lame and ghetto fabulous at the very same time, yet Rolex has done it. If you ask one person on the street what they think of Rolex, they’ll tell you their elderly grandfather wears one in between rounds of golf and his daily 2 p.m. nap. If you ask another, they’ll tell you the only people that wear Rolexes are athletes and rappers. So which are you, a sleepy 85-year-old bald man or an 18-year-old athlete from the hood trying to prove his worth to the world?
Rolex Watches Are For Posers
If you are not one of the two groups mentioned above, wearing a Rolex oozes desperation. Yes, a Rolex is the most recognizable watch on the planet -- now is that supposed to be a good thing? Young men that don a Rolex are perceived as self-absorbed, insecure and image-obsessed by those around them. Essentially, you just look like a douche. Be confident enough in yourself and in your sense of style that you don’t need to be wearing a veritable calling card of the nouveau riche.
Arguments for Rolex
Rolex Watches Are Classic
You’ll see below that most Rolex watches are archetypes: The Rolex Submariner is the classic diver’s watch, The Rolex Datejust is the classic formal men’s watch of the last half century and The Rolex Daytona is the classic sports chronograph. Rolex has benefited from keeping its product line simple and consistent. Instead of releasing brand new models, it keeps refining existing designs. This is extremely important because each watch contains the suggestions and wearing experiences of countless people who together have helped create timepieces that look good and work well.
Take the Rolex Submariner line as an example. Based on the classic “Oyster” water-resistant watch cases, the timepiece is specifically designed to be easy to read in most conditions, to be hardy and have a comfortable and reliable construction. The Submariner design has achieved an almost impossible task: to look good on almost every person, on any occasion, regardless of age or outfit. Other Rolex watches edge close to this ideal as well. You have to ask yourself the question of whether that is due to something about the design of these watches or rather because we have been seeing them on important wrists our whole lives, and they simply mentally fit these positive watch stereotypes.
James Bond Wore A Rolex
Omega doesn’t want you to know this, but the original James Bond watch was a Rolex Submariner. Creator Ian Fleming wrote that Bond was wearing the timepiece, while Sean Connery in the role brandished his Submariner proudly. Countless actors, celebrities and politicians have also been known to be Rolex men. Take the popular line of Paul Newman Daytona watches, or the Rolex Day-Date nicknamed the “President,” because many U.S. presidents (and otherwise) during the 20th century were known to wear the watch. Wearing a Rolex and being associated with these people and personalities can hardly be described as something you’d want to avoid.
Rolex Watches Are The Ultimate Status Symbol
Wearing a Rolex watch communicates to people that you are successful enough to have rewarded yourself with the luxury of a nice watch. Rolex watches are not the only luxury watches out there by far, but they are the most well-known. From basic entry-level luxury models to diamond-encrusted gold watches for the ultra-privileged, a Rolex is so much more than a mere timepiece. It is a statement about your way of life and taste. Some people take it even further; the world of aftermarket Rolex watches feature decorated brims and jewel encrusted designs, suggesting that telling time becomes a mere afterthought.
Other watches also want to be like Rolex, whose designs are the most copied the world over. Most of these watches legitimize “homage” timepieces with a different brand name, but there is of course the dark underworld of fakes as well. You’ll find at least a little of Rolex design in the majority of nice watches out there. So, even if you don’t have a watch with the Rolex name, chances are there is a bit of Rolex influence. You can’t deny that even if Rolex watch designs don’t move you, a big part of you wants one.
Rolex Watches Have Excellent Movements
Being a company that makes all of its own parts (rare in the watch world), it goes without saying that Rolex makes each of its own movements (historically, this was not always the case), excluding other watch companies from using Rolex mechanical movements. While Rolex is not known in the modern sense for having particularly complex movements (it offers basic watches with features such as the time, date, day, or a chronograph), it is preferred by watch makers to work on being so well designed, easy to fix and highly reliable. As such, almost every Rolex movement sold is COSC certified Chronometer attesting to its accuracy.
Rolex Watches Hold Value
Among the few truly collectible watch brands from a value perspective are Rolex timepieces. It has been said that you can buy a new Rolex Submariner today, wear it for five years, and then sell it in good condition for close to the original purchase price. Like cars, most other watches lose a chunk of their value after being sized and put on a buyer’s wrist. There are also the investment-grade Rolex watches that achieve stellar auction results yielding some of the most impressive prices ever known at an auction. This is due to the power behind the Rolex name and brand, as well as the world’s fervor for these “gold standard” super watches.
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Interesting read. Thanks. I have to say that Rolex is an iconic watch and I believe that it is a 'must' for every collection. Regardless if you like it or not.
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If you wear a sub and put on nato/leather strap... No one will think that is a rolex...
Damn, must get myself a sub later in life :Cheers:
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i got a rollie becoz they have very good 2nd value, which i think mostly every watch collector will agreed to.
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seriously, i think buying a watch for it's secondhand value is like getting married and thinking about divorce at the back of your mind.
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Rolex offers the best bang for the buck for a Swiss watch in the price category bar none.
Which other swiss watch offers an excellent build quality with robust full in-house movement and quality assurance & brand recognition as a Rolex within the same price bracket?
you can say a Sinn or Damasko is a very good watch but look under a loupe compared to a Rolex and you'll know the difference. it may not be haute holorogy, but the quality is there for a very mass produced product. i may not be an expert but the error margin for Rolex may be very very low.
it's the watch standard that every single swiss watchmaker aspires to be. Frank Mueller sings praises about it
Are there brands that make high end products but have successfully gone mass?
A good example is Rolex. Now, a Rolex watch has enormous value relative to its price. It is really excellent value. It is the accessibility of its price that allows Rolex to sell 1 million watches a year. But have you ever looked at a Rolex movement? These are incredibly high end movements. They are high end in the manner they are made, in the way they are decorated in the way that they are designed, and they are in-house. I look at Rolex objectively I would say they are incredible because you have tremendous value. The same thing goes for an Omega Constellation chronograph. You look at the price and then you realize for this relatively low price you are getting a high end movement.
http://revo-online.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116 (http://revo-online.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116)
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Alot of watch collectors would try to be different and disses Rolex and their "new money look at me" feeling.
But as you dvelve deeper, everyone keeps on coming back to the brand. Can you seriously tell me a PAM 88 deserves to be in the same price bracket as a GMTIIc? as much as i want to have an 88 too but when it comes to taking cash out from my wallet, it just does not offer the same thing as an GMTIIc.
Rolex watch history is not a hype, ppl actually pay their hard earned cash to get something that is not issued to them. The case with astronaut strapping a GMT on one wrist while having an issued speedy on the other. Allied pilots wearing Rolexes and etc.. A watch brand that have rode every crisis that killed almost all swiss watches and survived and thrived.
it's not a marketing hype if you do not have a very good product to back it up.
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This is an interesting quote from the article:
"All those stories you hear about Rolexes being chosen as the watch for great adventures are only half true. For example, Rolex claims Sir Edmund Hillary wore an Explorer when he scaled the summit of Mount Everest for the first time. This is not the case. In fact, he only carried the Explorer until he reached the summit and then put on a watch from a small British company called Smiths. Hillary even wrote a signed letter endorsement to Smiths stating: “I carried your watch to the summit and it worked perfectly.”
Errr he carried the Rolex? So he wore the Smiths? But the article says he then put on a watch... so he also carried the Smiths. Both watches made it to the top of Everest. What ever the case may be, Tenzing did wear a Rolex to the top. It was the Rolex given to him by Swiss Mountaineer Raymond Lambert.
Terrenceterrence, thank you for the very apt quote "I think buying a watch for it's second hand value is like getting married and thinking about divorce at the back of your mind". :)
I don't love Rolex. I like the brand. But the more I read about the brand, the more I feel that it is a great brand with lots of history. The best thing about the Rolex brand, its after sales service. I have had no (touch wood) problems with them. Be it in Malaysia or Taiwan or Japan. Trust me I know. Compare that to the experience I got from other brands, I have to say that they have a long way to go.
The other brand which I think has great value is Omega. It is a bit under rated for what it is offering.
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lolex Have very strict aftersales procedure to follow. Hence the good service exp by many ppl. Not to mention very hard to get spare part outside the official channel.
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Good read. Thanks for sharing.
I would say every true collector who is worth his/her salt, must have at least a Rolex in his/her collections.
Correct me, if I am wrong.
I have bought and sold many a 6694's in my course of watch collecting. Yet, I am back to basic yearning for one now that I could feel the daily winding sensation. Hoping to come across one pc with pristine condition that worth keeping and for good.
dc
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A very long but very good read by Mr Rolex James Dowling.
Posted by James M. Dowling on February 10, 1998 at 22:24:33:
It's a free world, you can love or hate any one or any thing that you choose. However the point that I would like to make is that a little research might convince even the most ardent critic of Rolex (or of the folks who wear them) that in this case a little tolerance might be no bad thing. Let us first look at the facts and then turn our view upon the perception.
1. To all intents and purposes, Rolex invented the wristwatch, as we know it. Sure there were companies making and marketing the things before Rolex burst upon the scene in 1905. But none of them put the effort that Rolex did into this new market. The reason for this is that the older companies could see no reason to change; they had major investments in plant and machinery designed specifically to make pocket watches. So why should they change. Rolex had nothing, no history, no factory and most importantly no tradition. So the only option open to them was that of being an innovator; and the innovation they chose was the wristwatch
2. Rolex without doubt invented the waterproof wristwatch; again as with all their other advances, they were not the originators of the concept. But they were the people who made it work, the screw down crown was a classically simple concept and Wilsdorf had the genius to see the simplicity and make it work for the company.
3. Once again with self-winding mechanisms, Rolex saw the way the market was going, saw the mistakes all their predecessors had made and neatly sidestepped them all. Whilst many other competing self winding systems have arisen in the 65 years since Rolex introduced the Auto Rotor system, the vast majority of all automatic watches now use a version of the Rolex concept.
4. However despite all of the above reasons, my opinion is that the greatest advance Rolex have ever made is their decision to gain chronometer certification for a few and then for almost all their watches. In the days before Rolex instituted this program, every watch manufacturer TALKED about the accuracy of their watches; but Rolex were the first people ever to have the accuracy proved by an independent agency. Before the advent of quartz watches; accuracy was in direct relationship to the cost of the watch; therefore people wanted to know that their watch was really accurate. Rolex gave them that assurance.
5. Nowadays we are all used to the concept of Tool watches, that is watches designed for a particular job or hobby; you know the sort of thing...diving watches, sailing watches, pilot's watches etc. Well Rolex invented that concept too. The Submariner, the GMT Master and the Milgauss were all pioneers in this field.
6. Being waterproof and shockproof long before the rest of the watch industry was, Rolex became the natural choice of sports people who needed a watch. From this starting point they then moved to make watches FOR sportsmen; this moved the Tool watch concept on a little further. Watches such as the Explorer 1 and 2 were targeted at climbers and cave explorers, they were simple timepieces but with high visibility dials and very strong cases. Once again they created a market and defined it.
7. They are, by far, the most innovative of all the Swiss watch companies; as well as all the new ideas mentioned above; Rolex have always pursued a long term development strategy. They have patented more than a thousand advances in horology during their 90+ year history.
8. Rolex is now the most self-sufficient watch company in Europe; they make all their own movements (apart from chronograph movements), all their cases, all their bracelets and all their crystals. They own most of their distributors and have no shareholders (as all the shares are held by 2 family trusts which have charitable status) because of this they can pursue long term goals without fear.
9. They are, without doubt, the largest Swiss watchmaker. Producing around 800,000 watches a year, they still sell every watch they make. They are dependent on no single market, one could really say that the world is their OYSTER!!!!!!!! (sorry)
10. Perhaps the one problem they do have is that they have become a victim of their own success. Whilst the company has not changed its design philosophy; their public perception have changed. Whereas Rolex made its name with sports watches and still makes more of them than any other kind of watch; many people think of diamond encrusted Day-Dates when they hear the name Rolex. However this is not the fault of the company.
11. Rolex have the longest single continuous ownership of any Swiss watch company; having been owned by the same two families (and its successor trusts) for its entire existence. During this time the company has essentially had only 2 chief executives (the third came to power in 1997). Both of these factors have enabled the company to steer in an uninterrupted course throughout its history.
12. Many people whine about the cost of a new Rolex; they forget 2 things. Firstly Rolex manage to sell every watch they make (so obviously SOME people do not think they are too expensive). Secondly, no-one was ever forced to buy a Rolex watch; it is a decision people make with their own free will and their own money. In the end, the free market rules everything.
13. It is difficult to talk about Rolex watches without talking about resale value; in simple terms Rolex (new or used) retain a higher percentage of their cost than any other production Swiss watch. Everything from the no date Submariner all the way to the President can be resold in an instant anywhere in the world, for very good money. Also, if the watch was bought used, it is quite possible to wear a Rolex for 2 or 3 years and sell it for the same price you paid for it. Apart from the cost of the money invested, essentially that makes it a free watch.
14. One of the reasons to buy a Rolex may well be one of the best, but undoubtedly one that no-one ever thinks of: it is that most of the profits made through the sale of the watches go to good causes. As mentioned above, the company is owned by two family trusts. The larger one (the Wilsdorf family trusts) gives a fixed sum to the remaining members of his family but the majority is given to charitable causes; including a high school in his home town and the watchmakers school in Geneva. This gives rise to the thought that if it were not for the substantial profits made by Rolex, there would probably be no Franck Muller; because it was at the Geneva watchmaker's school that Muller learned his trade.
As I said in the introduction, if you want to hate Rolex; then be my guest but at least I hope when you do you will at least give the devil his due.
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Those who argue against rolex do not have one. Those that argue for rolex have at least one.
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I guess most asians love Rolex. Since we were young, i guess we were already infected by Rolex Disease. I'm sure you all can remember those days, when family having gathering,aunty likes to show off their diamond rings and as for the uncle, of cos their trusted brand of watch-Rolex.
As a young boy,sure curious about the Bling Bling watch then will definitely ask your uncle. Thats where they got the attention and will start to boost how much they got the watch for. You can sense how proud they are :Dancing_banana:
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great write ups...just noticed this..
actually, i always see rolex as for old people and rich towkays..in fact..once i was hanging around in streets (when i was ard 10 years old).....and one old man came out from a stairway entrance.... he looked in a hurry..suddenly there was a shout in Chinese `lau pan (boss)..you forgot your watch' and behold a young lady with heavy makeup came out from same entrance, passed a bling bling Rolex to this old man..he looked embarassed, quickly took his watch and walked away...
it was only years later i understood what actually happened that day... :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
(but nowadays if you left your watch behind... your action video will be on line!!! :Laughing_on_floor:)
so to me ....rolex is always chinese towkay kind of brand..
...until...
...i joined MWF and see the way some of you wear and talk your Rollies...and read articles like this....darn! now i know the legacy behind some of em models...
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Some buy rolek to show off it's wealth, so they buy the bling bling one
some buy rolek bcoz they dunno other gd watch brand
some buy rolek bcoz rolek is very liquid
some buy rolex bcoz they know rolex is tough n they jus dun feel like wearing something cheap
some buy rolex with modification to match their style
Some buy rolex because they understand rolex, they love rolex, they collect rolex...
So to talk about good or bad bout rolex? Depend u talk to who...
U talk to rolek owner sure he said gd bcoz he had the bling bling one, he dunno other brand, he can sell it with money at pawn shop jus in case....
U talk to those who know rolex n watches, then u can get different opinion....
So important is not about how good or how bad is rolex? But how good n how bad are you when u consider rolex!
Zhou mai Zhou lo dou
chi mai mo de lo
:Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
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so chris, is this ur guiding princple for buying a roles? ;)
Zhou mai Zhou lo dou
chi mai mo de lo
:Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
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so chris, is this ur guiding princple for buying a roles? ;)
Zhou mai Zhou lo dou
chi mai mo de lo
:Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Hahhaa.. i don't understand that 2 lines le ;D
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I also dun understand.... hehehehe!
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seriously, i think buying a watch for it's secondhand value is like getting married and thinking about divorce at the back of your mind.
"Like"...if only we have such button, I'd click on it for this one! Good one bro..
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seriously, i think buying a watch for it's secondhand value is like getting married and thinking about divorce at the back of your mind.
Holy sh!t... that's so clever...
It's gonna be my sig frm now on if you allow it...
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u could come out a tagline with different words but to the same effect then u dun hv to ask for permission.
that how they circumvent copyrights ;) no offence Terence
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so chris, is this ur guiding princple for buying a roles? ;)
Zhou mai Zhou lo dou
chi mai mo de lo
:Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
Hahhaa.. i don't understand that 2 lines le ;D
i think what he meant was
early buy ealr can make money
late buy cannot make money..
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i dont like rolex since most of them wear by ah long...
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Hmmm all ah long also wear pants and t-shirts... ;)
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i dont like rolex since most of them wear by ah long...
I also wanna be ah long if can have rose gold Daytona.. enough gold chain for me do do bicep curls.. left hug, right hold China XMMs + a waist bag full of cash rolled up with rubberband :Laughing_on_floor:
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Hmmm all ah long also wear pants and t-shirts... ;)
:Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
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The concern of wearing Rolex is snatch thief using 'Parang' to get your Rolex(either its ori or replica)... easiest way for them is to cut your hand.... I will not wear it daily... maybe during special occasion only...
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Dude...there are tons of Rolex around the world. Unless you are wearing a all out blinged Rolex no one would hardly notice any SS sports model Rolex.
I wear my Sub all around the world and have hardly felt any unsafe
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From time to time, I heard the parang-chopping-hand-wearing-rolex myth, is it scheme to make rolex owner keep their rollies in the safe deposit box ? It is not easy to chop a hand off and take the watch. Not to mention the mess it created. Your hand is not dead wood, dry and fragile. If u r in ur senior years, probably more fragile. also, u won't hold still for him to chop ur hand, right? Back to the question, y not I hold the parang to ur neck and relieve u of ur watch. No blood, no mess, no yelling. And of course, the robber has no personal vendetta against u ;)
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From time to time, I heard the parang-chopping-hand-wearing-rolex myth, is it scheme to make rolex owner keep their rollies in the safe deposit box ? It is not easy to chop a hand off and take the watch. Not to mention the mess it created. Your hand is not dead wood, dry and fragile. If u r in ur senior years, probably more fragile. also, u won't hold still for him to chop ur hand, right? Back to the question, y not I hold the parang to ur neck and relieve u of ur watch. No blood, no mess, no yelling. And of course, the robber has no personal vendetta against u ;)
totally aggred with u.... :thumbsup:
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Dude...there are tons of Rolex around the world. Unless you are wearing a all out blinged Rolex no one would hardly notice any SS sports model Rolex.
I wear my Sub all around the world and have hardly felt any unsafe
+1 exceptbthat I have not bought mind yet.
I'm guessing the less obvious models should be ok nv hard to stare at people watch in my experience. Some of the seiko also looks like certain rolexes too
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i dont like rolex since most of them wear by ah long...
You must have known quite a lot of ah long to be able to know that most of them wear rolex ...
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From time to time, I heard the parang-chopping-hand-wearing-rolex myth, is it scheme to make rolex owner keep their rollies in the safe deposit box ? It is not easy to chop a hand off and take the watch. Not to mention the mess it created. Your hand is not dead wood, dry and fragile. If u r in ur senior years, probably more fragile. also, u won't hold still for him to chop ur hand, right? Back to the question, y not I hold the parang to ur neck and relieve u of ur watch. No blood, no mess, no yelling. And of course, the robber has no personal vendetta against u ;)
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Hmmm ... I got the impression here that in your previous life, you've had a career as an ah long? :D
But I'm not bold enough to suggest that sshark is actually an acronym for loans shark! ;D
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To the person who wrote that originally: Come on...get a life!
For me no matter what i m going to buy: I ONLY BUY THE THING I LIKE AND I LIVE WITH IT
The only worst case is when i need to buy something i dont wish to have it.
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+1 on Rockdaman on buying stuff that you like and living with it
No comment on "get a life " ;D
and again +1 on worse case scenario...........something like the bike I bought and then needing to upgrade much sooner than I wanted :p cost more in the end!
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As for me..personally cause i want to be part of the history..of Rolex... :Dancing_banana:
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As for me..personally cause i want to be part of the history..of Rolex... :Dancing_banana:
you want Rolex in your own personal history
or
you want to be part of Rolex' history?
if it's the latter, then the easiest way is to start a revolution wearing a Rolex
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3Ez5thg_tq0/TeU4R4kg-OI/AAAAAAAAKXg/Vi9w_YrARb4/s1600/Che-Guevara-Rolex-GMT-Master-Espresso.jpg)
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As for me..personally cause i want to be part of the history..of Rolex... :Dancing_banana:
you want Rolex in your own personal history
or
you want to be part of Rolex' history?
if it's the latter, then the easiest way is to start a revolution wearing a Rolex
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3Ez5thg_tq0/TeU4R4kg-OI/AAAAAAAAKXg/Vi9w_YrARb4/s1600/Che-Guevara-Rolex-GMT-Master-Espresso.jpg)
:Laughing_on_floor: then the latter that is.... :police:
Love that pic... Viva la revolusion
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prepare to spend RM1850 for regular service of the SUB :)
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You gotta pay to play bro!
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Kind of reminded me of my good friend who is a big time collector who told another friend when he was bitching why the service cost of his German watch is 5 figures. He said if you cannot afford to play, don't play. If you want to buy watches that cost 6 figures, be ready to pay when service is due.
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I have trouble understanding people that want to own a BMW or Merc but expect to spend money for maintenance like a Proton or Perodua. I mean, it goes without saying that that's the name of the game.
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+1 manburg
Must not only calculate upfront cost but also maintenance cost. Anyways is like 400 a year so close to a dollar a bit a day ;)
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:) :)
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hey service cost of a rolex is way cheaper than some ppl's annual fags/booze expenses.
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hey service cost of a rolex is way cheaper than some ppl's annual fags/booze expenses.
i agree..... i wish i can giv up the fags/boozes expenses... :Blue:
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Not yearly but monthly fags booze n chicks expenses... ;D
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hahaha... ya chicks too.... :laugh:
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My the other half is happy that I spent my extra dough on watches.....not on fags, chick, song and booze.. :Dancing_banana:
Really, cross my heart, none of the above. :thumbsup:
dc
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Hmmm ... booze, cigar, chicks. :o No wonder my wife never said a word about my watch collecting habit. :angel:
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Hmmm ... booze, cigar, chicks. :o No wonder my wife never said a word about my watch collecting habit. :angel:
+ 1........... ;D but now she start to making some noise since i intend to move further to holy trinity collection...
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Dennis, what is the trinity again?
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My the other half is happy that I spent my extra dough on watches.....not on fags, chick, song and booze.. :Dancing_banana:
Really, cross my heart, none of the above. :thumbsup:
dc
Ya, money spent well on something we can hold and touch. Instead of burning away :HammerHead:
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Ya, money spent well on something we can hold and touch. Instead of burning away :HammerHead:
I'd be banging my heads if I'm spending my money on chicks that I can't hold and touch ...
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I wonder how many % of Malaysian actually spend on a Watch which cost more than RM2k? I would say less than 10% as 50% of the population earn less than RM4k a month!!
Whats your say?
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I wonder how many % of Malaysian actually spend on a Watch which cost more than RM2k? I would say less than 10% as 50% of the population earn less than RM4k a month!!
Whats your say?
First of all, where did you get the stats that half of the population earns less than RM4K per month?
Secondly, even if that's indeed true, what makes you think that those who earn less than RM4K wouldn't buy a watch that's priced at more than RM2K?
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Dennis, what is the trinity again?
AP, PP, VC?
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Is that a general WIS's trinity or his personal trinity? ???
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General I guess.
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I am earning less than 4k and I am buying watches more than 2k. Wonder which category do I fall in?
dc
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Hmmm...DC, that would put you in the same category as those who doesn't need to earn anything and can still buy 2k or more watch. I think in Cantonese they call them "yee sai cho" ;)
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"yee sai cho" means no need to work yet got $$ to spend. But I need to work hard ...woh
Not actually a proper words to say the least.
Put it this way, it may sound better....we earned and deserved the best after experienced turbulance times :thumbsup:
How to say that in cantonese?..
dc
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Please excuse my limited vocab in Cantonese. I’ve been called a “heung chiew” on numerous occasion by my friends from Hong Kong therefore I won’t know what it’s called in Cantonese…perhaps a hardworking white-collared worker? :D
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'heung chiew' means banana in cantonese....
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banana means look like chinese on the outside (yellow) but cannot speak chinese (white inside) , this is you -> :Dancing_banana:
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I know what a "heung Chiew" means, just wasnt too sure what to call the person dc described himself as in Chinese so the closest one I could think of is a hardworking white-collard worker. Sorry for the confusion guys :Confused:
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heung chiew or gung chiew in cantonese is bananas. : :Dancing_banana:
BTW, I am not even a white collard worker in my early days....always wear blue collar shirt or uniform my days in the 'near-engine' environment at EON. Only recently in a white collard clerical 'air-cond' environment
Its ok, not an issue..........we learn as we go on in our every day life.....
:Cheers:
dc
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I believe Dennis refers AP,PP and VC (mentioned by thehobbit) as the trinity
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Dont cha me newbies like this la.
Here is the chart http://voyager8.blogspot.com/2008/09/malaysian-household-monthly-income.html (http://voyager8.blogspot.com/2008/09/malaysian-household-monthly-income.html)
In 2008, 57.8% of the families are below this group (RM4k). Bare in mind this is household which is combined income.
My reason they would not spend more than 2k is simply that all of their income need to bayar installment rumah,kereta,credit card(food). I doubt there are any left safe to say for watches above 2k :)
Just my 2 cent.
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Arguing for Rolex for its stability in value. Most collectors should have at least one Rolex sports model. And if you were to wear a Daytona 116528 or 116509 should you be considered a poser? It's as expensive as a brand new AP ROO or a pre-owned PP Nautilus 5712/1A :Cheers:
http://www.oysterinfo.de/en/specials/celebs/index.php
I dont think these celebs wear Rolex because they're insecure about themselves :Jumping:
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I dont think these celebs wear Rolex because they're insecure about themselves :Jumping:
I don't quite understand this statement. Does it mean to say that some people wear Rolex because they felt insecure about themselves?
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I have trouble understanding people that want to own a BMW or Merc but expect to spend money for maintenance like a Proton or Perodua. I mean, it goes without saying that that's the name of the game.
human is like that, better if they cost RM30K
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Rolex for me is only the medium lower grade watch. Just look at their full range of movement, the most complication could be the Daytona (cant remember the code) which i pay for only 1/3 or 1/4 price can get the same function or style with other famous swiss watch brand
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@manburg as stated in wslee's first comment, the arguments against rolex. just commenting on that. apparently askmen.com said that.
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Rolex for me is only the medium lower grade watch. Just look at their full range of movement, the most complication could be the Daytona (cant remember the code) which i pay for only 1/3 or 1/4 price can get the same function or style with other famous swiss watch brand
wow, Daytona = medium lower grade
gosh... Sub, GMT = Low grade
DJ = peanut grade
Airking = Dirt grade
Date = No eye see grade
Precision = Throw at dog grade? but i dunno wor..seems a bit too light to actually hurt a dog. but a YMII or DD might be heavy enough but would that be in the low grade category?
gosh....dilemma...dilemma....anyone can work out the categories? ??? ??? ???
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why are there grades to begin with ???
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Damn... I just realized most if not all my watches belong to the "peanut grade" and "dirt grade"
Sigh... :HammerHead:
Anyone willing to let go of a "Low grade" Explorer II... drop me a PM k? ;D
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Rolex for me is only the medium lower grade watch. Just look at their full range of movement, the most complication could be the Daytona (cant remember the code) which i pay for only 1/3 or 1/4 price can get the same function or style with other famous swiss watch brand
We should never degrade any reputable watch brand... Our main concern should be focused on the damn replicas...
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Rolex for me is only the medium lower grade watch. Just look at their full range of movement, the most complication could be the Daytona (cant remember the code) which i pay for only 1/3 or 1/4 price can get the same function or style with other famous swiss watch brand
Interesting point of view. Personally I feel the Daytona is what we call an 'aspiration' item, much like the iPhone or iPad. There are other watches out there that can do more or do it better than the Daytona, but at the end of the day, it is not a Daytona.
As for Rolex being categorised as a lower grade watch based on complications, well, lets put it this way:
Moon phase watches: useful if you are one of these - mariners, fishermen and hunters
Minute repeater: where in the world do you not have light to see the time, also most watches have luminous material on the hands and dial, even minute repeaters.
Tourbillon: do you use a pocket watch? If so, useful, if not well......
Perpetual calendar: do you really need a watch to tell you the day, week, month, year?
I am not a Rolex fan boy, if you have read my posting, you will know that I am not one. But let's be honest about Rolex. As much as you dislike Rolex, a Rolex is a Rolex. Grade the watch/ brand based on more substantial facts and data and not by the number of complications it has or can have. Tell you what, a Citizen can have a huge number of complications, does it mean that it is of a higher grade (no offence to Citizen or its fans).
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@manburg as stated in wslee's first comment, the arguments against rolex. just commenting on that. apparently askmen.com said that.
Thanks for clarifying that. :thumbsup: This thread has so beranak-pinak that I didn't even remember what the original posting was. Let me just re-produce the part you referred to:
"Young men that don a Rolex are perceived as self-absorbed, insecure and image-obsessed by those around them."
Well, luckily I'm only young at heart. ;D
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but then why so many rolexes have been copied and those fake sold like hot cakes!!! Many foreigners go to Petaling Street just for those cheap fake rolexes. There must be something that really attract people to buy rolexes either genuine or fake
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you like it or not. You Cant deny that lolex movement are simplest and really robust (other than reverser weakness thing ). Most watchmaker i asked they say they are easy to repair.
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@manburg as stated in wslee's first comment, the arguments against rolex. just commenting on that. apparently askmen.com said that.
"Young men that don a Rolex are perceived as self-absorbed, insecure and image-obsessed by those around them."
Wah, I terasa like that la. Never asked around what people perceive of me also. I believe the above statement is more of jealous talk.
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@manburg as stated in wslee's first comment, the arguments against rolex. just commenting on that. apparently askmen.com said that.
"Young men that don a Rolex are perceived as self-absorbed, insecure and image-obsessed by those around them."
Wah, I terasa like that la. Never asked around what people perceive of me also. I believe the above statement is more of jealous talk.
the statement is like saying young ppl cannot year lolex. Only reserve for old ppl. :HammerHead:
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Haha Gigi I also thought like that when I was v much younger. Still young so now I'm getting one soon even if it's for my mom & dad first then me ;D
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:)I am not an owner of rolex and considering myself still at the late young age but the desire to own one relox is getting stronger n stronger..
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+1 zuki me too
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Dennis, what is the trinity again?
AP, PP, VC?
BINGO...more precise for me is AP RO/ROO, PP Nautilius 5711/1a and VC Oversea Chrono
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Dennis, what is the trinity again?
The master here answered for me... :thumbsup:
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Thanks mate :)
Took a while to figure the abbreviations but get you on that, now I wonder whether i'll ever get those one day :-\
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but then why so many rolexes have been copied and those fake sold like hot cakes!!! Many foreigners go to Petaling Street just for those cheap fake rolexes. There must be something that really attract people to buy rolexes either genuine or fake
For education purposes.
Many foreigners go to PS to buy those fakes, I believe, is for fun and as novelty. They know its a fakes. They buy many pieces to take home as gifts to the folks back home. IMHO. They do not intend to cheat.
Some buy those fakes to fill in as a missing piece in their collections. Some buy to wear and test their feeling. If the wants and feeling do not ‘dies’ or wane off after a certain period, I believe they will proceed to buy a genuine one as a keeper.
Some buy to deceive others but that they cannot overcome their own guilt and ends up cheating themselves
dc
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i am sure you will if the poison is deep enuf :)
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Rolex is dangerous....... :thumbsup:
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Whether or not your are for or against Rolex, the market (new as well as the used market) appreciates the brand tremendously. Putting it another way, supply and demand dictates fashion and intrinsic value. As an individual, you have options. The options that you take will indicated whether you are mainstream or not. IMHO, for the Rolex brand, if you like it you are considered "normal".
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Affordability is another issue. You may not be able to afford it but if you can appreciate its beauty you are part of the "normal" group. heheheh :Cheers:
btw, just visited[No mention of AD name- MOD] Gardens, Rolex just increased their prices by 5% across the board today
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A lot of ppl cant afford to like Rolex, as they cant afford to buy it, ........ so equiv em as "abnormal" loh :Laughing_on_floor:
The fact that you can't afford a thing, doesn't mean you can't like it. I can use a Ferrari as an example, but I'd prefer to use Megan Fox instead. :P
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Aiyo...I knew it...just thinking of buying and already it's incraesed! Crazy :Blue: :Blue:
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Like Takashi said... anytime is a good rime to buy a Rolex... :thumbsup:
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Rolex's branding is deeply ingrained and imbedded, they are no doubt the world's most well known watch brand. And they still spend tons on ads. Witness wimbledon,Rolex is a major sponsor.
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I am earning less than 4k and I am buying watches more than 2k. Wonder which category do I fall in?
dc
in debt :P
just kidding bro
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A lot of ppl cant afford to like Rolex, as they cant afford to buy it, ........ so equiv em as "abnormal" loh :Laughing_on_floor:
The fact that you can't afford a thing, doesn't mean you can't like it. I can use a Ferrari as an example, but I'd prefer to use Megan Fox instead. :P
Megan is MINE! :p
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A lot of ppl cant afford to like Rolex, as they cant afford to buy it, ........ so equiv em as "abnormal" loh :Laughing_on_floor:
The fact that you can't afford a thing, doesn't mean you can't like it. I can use a Ferrari as an example, but I'd prefer to use Megan Fox instead. :P
Megan is MINE! :p
Are you Brian Austin Greene in disguise? If yes, you're one lucky son of a gun! :thumbsup: (not to mention MWF has now got a celebrity member :D)
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For those who delay getting their rolexes,...bad news.......Rolex in Malaysia just increased their price..7% acress the board effective 1/7/11
dc
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For those who delay getting their rolexes,...bad news.......Rolex in Malaysia just increased their price..7% acress the board effective 1/7/11
dc
Good! :thumbsup: I mean good for Rolex owners whose Rolexes must now increase in value too! ;D
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the 2nd hand price dun increase tat fast and that much. those who want to own 1 or another 1 can consider used units :)
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Thanks sshark...considering already :thumbsup:
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the 2nd hand price dun increase tat fast and that much. those who want to own 1 or another 1 can consider used units :)
I have visited one of the pre-loved rolex dealer. He is adjusting his price today..........
dc
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these guys really fast going straight for the jugular vein :(
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i wish my salary follows Rolex pricing strategy... :Praying:
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I wish my salary increase by 2 folds each time time Rolex revise their watch prices $-)
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If everybody stops buying Rolexes with immediate effect... perhaps Rolex might reduce their prices ;D
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Rolex sells luxury watches and luxury watches defy basic economy intuition :)
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We all wish that the bosses can increase their staffs salary according to the Rolex annual price increase! :Praying:
ahaha, then employees will wear rolex and bosses will wear Swatch...
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If everybody stops buying Rolexes with immediate effect... perhaps Rolex might reduce their prices ;D
Yeah better luck finding cure for AIDS than that happening. LOL
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Malaysia has the lowest price in Rolex, but our middle income is also quite low.
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This is my uncle's. He told me he bought it in Penang circa 1972 for around RM1600. A few years back he was offerred RM20k for it.
What do you guys think? Does it worth that much?
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd413/rhamir67/Rolex.jpg)
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This is my uncle's. He told me he bought it in Penang circa 1972 for around RM1600. A few years back he was offerred RM20k for it.
What do you guys think? Does it worth that much?
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd413/rhamir67/Rolex.jpg)
I don't think it is worth RM20k in its current state. Even in good condition, I don't think it will fetch RM20K. The watch is gold capped and the bracelet (if original from 1972, is likely plated). The reference 15505 is a nice watch though.
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This is my uncle's. He told me he bought it in Penang circa 1972 for around RM1600. A few years back he was offerred RM20k for it.
What do you guys think? Does it worth that much?
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd413/rhamir67/Rolex.jpg)
he shd b regret for not selling it.... hv u seen any1 of us posting GOLD ROLEK here?
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This is my uncle's. He told me he bought it in Penang circa 1972 for around RM1600. A few years back he was offerred RM20k for it.
What do you guys think? Does it worth that much?
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd413/rhamir67/Rolex.jpg)
he shd b regret for not selling it.... hv u seen any1 of us posting GOLD ROLEK here?
And have u seen anyone of us here drooling over gold rolex? 8)
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We have yellow gold, rose gold and now rusty gold :)
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where is the crown? :o :o :o
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If he can fetch 20k for the watch, better sale now, immediately, no need to wait, quick quick before the buyer join this forum
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Rolex sells luxury watches and luxury watches defy basic economy intuition :)
So true. I suppose if we need a watch just to tell time, a cheapo quartz wld do a better job.
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This is my uncle's. He told me he bought it in Penang circa 1972 for around RM1600. A few years back he was offerred RM20k for it.
What do you guys think? Does it worth that much?
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd413/rhamir67/Rolex.jpg)
wow ..a gold plated 1550 with missing crown and heavily oxidised hands, dial and bracelet + watch worth 20k?
even a pristine complete set 1550 is not worth more than 5k
btw i am no expert but did they made a gold 1550 or "1558" ?
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Rolex 1558? If chinese apek buy... sure very soi wan... yat em em fatt? CHOI!!! :Laughing_on_floor:
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hahahaaha yeah hor... :Laughing_on_floor:
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wow ..a gold plated 1550 with missing crown and heavily oxidised hands, dial and bracelet + watch worth 20k?
even a pristine complete set 1550 is not worth more than 5k
btw i am no expert but did they made a gold 1550 or "1558" ?
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I stand corrected but I believe the 1550 is gold capped or gold rolled with a stainless steel case back. Don't think there was a reference 1558.
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started with omega, then pam then swayed to br n some other funny brand. now only pam n rolex. u have to owned a rolex to appreciate it. those with so much opinion but doesnt owned one does not give fair opinion
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I've started with Seiko, Titus, Suunto, Tissot and finally... last friday a Rolex deepsea. This purchase was made when I am in the 5th decade of my life. The dream of owning one was burning patiently for decades and when I got it last week, i felt utterly complete.............unless the virus rears it ugly head again and I will start to hunger again for something else! ;)
IMHO, a brand/product that can give that serenity to the owner is very Zen-like and in my book, that is a clear winner!
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I have the same complete feeling when I purchased my real Rolex 15200, but no. Believe me; the virus just would rear its ugly head again along the years which prompt me to purchase other model of the same make along the way.
Down the road, I thought I would have settled on a Sub with date and later a SD, keep getting the ‘best’ model of Rolexes where $$ could buy. After owning and toying with some of them various model, I said to myself; ‘what the heck” I am not going anywhere near the pool side with my Sub / SD. The ocean dive was never on my mind while wearing my baby.
Then came the traveling to other continents, hey…a GMT would do a better job, so came a GMT2 after flipping the Sub. While the SD is sitting pretty in the safe.
Then the GMT2 had seen the better days where the bezel is too flashy to my liking (pepsi cola …mah), flipped it for a Exp2 (understatement …mah)…..and the rest is history.
Now back to basic, where I get to wear my 6694 (got the nice feeling to wind-up the watch daily)…
There you go, these watcholic syndromes seem never fully recovery in me and the viruses keep attacking till the cows come home.
Thank you for reading my ‘cheong-hei’ mail.
dc
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I'll say it again... the journey is never ever complete for us...
There will bound to be some models in the future that catches our fancy and we will go "Damn, I gotta have that!!"
Boom... the journey starts all over...
But It's the journey that excites us most, don't you agree? :Cheers:
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Those who says Rolex design is stale is probably those either don't owned one or they don't understand design.
Rolex watches particularly the Sub series is so iconic that the entire watch industry is copying it, such an iconic design why should be changed in the first place.
Panerai is falling into the trap of this trendy styling thing whereby for the last 2 - 3 years they coming out with weirdo design just to please the appetite of some newly rich in east asia.
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Yesterday was the first time i saw a lady wearing "Ah Fok" !
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Yesterday was the first time i saw a lady wearing "Ah Fok" !
What's Ah Fok? ???
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Yesterday was the first time i saw a lady wearing "Ah Fok" !
that is the ugliest of all PAM
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isn't it suppose to be terbalik for power?
so no terbalik so fook flow out instead of in?
konon-lah the italians wanna impress the asians.. :Laughing_on_floor:
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isn't it suppose to be terbalik for power?
so no terbalik so fook flow out instead of in?
konon-lah the italians wanna impress the asians.. :Laughing_on_floor:
because the asian are the "ah foks"
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I have the same complete feeling when I purchased my real Rolex 15200, but no. Believe me; the virus just would rear its ugly head again along the years which prompt me to purchase other model of the same make along the way.
Down the road, I thought I would have settled on a Sub with date and later a SD, keep getting the ‘best’ model of Rolexes where $$ could buy. After owning and toying with some of them various model, I said to myself; ‘what the heck” I am not going anywhere near the pool side with my Sub / SD. The ocean dive was never on my mind while wearing my baby.
Then came the traveling to other continents, hey…a GMT would do a better job, so came a GMT2 after flipping the Sub. While the SD is sitting pretty in the safe.
Then the GMT2 had seen the better days where the bezel is too flashy to my liking (pepsi cola …mah), flipped it for a Exp2 (understatement …mah)…..and the rest is history.
Now back to basic, where I get to wear my 6694 (got the nice feeling to wind-up the watch daily)…
There you go, these watcholic syndromes seem never fully recovery in me and the viruses keep attacking till the cows come home.
Thank you for reading my ‘cheong-hei’ mail.
dc
wow DC.....will love to hear more `comparative stories' about the different models since you've pretty much owned most of them....Sub, SD, GMT2, ExpII, Milgauss...
While I agree that `buy what sings to you' and `know what sing to you after trying the real thing on wrist' are 2 of the most important advice in watch buying, i still love to hear real owners experiences....
so, do tell more if you dont mind... ;D
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Yesterday was the first time i saw a lady wearing "Ah Fok" !
What's Ah Fok? ???
He is refering to Pam 366
Fook is the chinese character at 6 o'clock...
Literally it means Blessing and Good Fortune...
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While I agree that `buy what sings to you' and `know what sing to you after trying the real thing on wrist' are 2 of the most important advices in watch buying, i still love to hear real owners experiences....
dang...i must have really keen sense of music then :Scolding:
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What's Ah Fok? ???
He is refering to Pam 366
Fook is the chinese character at 6 o'clock...
Literally it means Blessing and Good Fortune...
Thanks Jacky for taking the trouble to explain. :thumbsup: I mean not everybody around here understands Mandarin/Cantonese/Hokkien.
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something that may interest this group which came in my news here
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5244894/Sir-Ed-Hillarys-widow-defends-trying-to-sell-watches :thumbsup:
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Yesterday was the first time i saw a lady wearing "Ah Fok" !
What's Ah Fok? ???
He is refering to Pam 366
Fook is the chinese character at 6 o'clock...
Literally it means Blessing and Good Fortune...
tats y lor.... u bless a military equipment.... it need good fortune to bomp?
military inspire still? i almost want to sell my pams when i c ah fok!!!
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Yesterday was the first time i saw a lady wearing "Ah Fok" !
What's Ah Fok? ???
He is refering to Pam 366
Fook is the chinese character at 6 o'clock...
Literally it means Blessing and Good Fortune...
It is obvious now Pam is aiming for the Chinese market.
Imho it brings down the standard of Pam.
tats y lor.... u bless a military equipment.... it need good fortune to bomp?
military inspire still? i almost want to sell my pams when i c ah fok!!!
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so jacky... u also wanna sell ur pam when u saw ah fook?? :)
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In Auckland Rolex looking. No price increase for a long time according to AD but much cheaper back home. Tested the sub ND and explorer 39. Itchy looking at the GMT SS and look see the Air King ;)
I read in TRF hk this year 3 times price increase. So I ask the AD and she said most likely due to USD lower in HK.
Btw all models r here so I'm guessing either the people here r not really into watches which is probably the case haha or it's to expensive. Also a v high possobility.
The sub was not as heavy as I thought it was and now the GMT looks much nicer
Any idea if the sub ND and GMT SS are far and way in price?
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GMT 2c or GMT 2?
Last i check a brand new ND is round 3k cheaper than a GMT2c a few months back.
as for a used ND vs a GMT2 then it's round 1-1.5k difference according to series and condition.
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Thanks mate.
Making the gMT similar to Sub with date lah in a way.
Makes sense so now my aim move from Sub to GMT most probably with the explorer still an option ;)
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ooops that's SGD btw. forgot to be more specific. sorry
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brand new, the "old" EXP2 is just less than a grand SGD difference compared to a ND.
as for the ceramic models, the sub cost more than the GMT.
have to go to RSC and get the latest price lsit to be sure
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Thanks for the input all. I will tell him to get advice from the experts in Rolex since he is still adamant about it, sans the bracelet, which he replaced. Seems that he has brought it to a few watch shops before and they told him it’s the real McCoy.
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Went to another AD here. In Auckland only 2 in NZ only 5 shops that sell Rolex
Tried a the exp 36, a bit small for my wrist. Tried the GMT 2 SS - wow v nice. I think it was better than Sub ND and similar to sub C. I have to admit guys that the older Rolex sub Hulk is amazing. They still have it here brand new.
When I was there many Chinese from china in the shop and I could not believe them buying it here. Some Rose gold daytona NZD 51150 or something like this.
I also tried the air king. Same size as exp 36mm.
For wives I think the YM looks good ;)
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You should see mainlanders when they are shopping in HK...
Like printing money ar... no discount tak apa... asal ada stock... :HammerHead:
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I saw a program at Shenzhen in May, document a family from China day trip to Hong Kong shopping. Family members Daddy (the guy with $$$), Mommy, Son and future daughter-in-law. From 9am until 8pm, total spend RMB 2mil within a day
Ask the dad, why you willing to spend 2mil in a day, he responded "Hong Kong stuff is cheaper compare to Mainland, so since got opportunity to come with whole family, spend worthy."
Ask the rest of the families member, everybody is smiling with ;D face
I was like :Startled: then :thumbsup:
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Wow cause I was a like a jakun. I was just surprised unless their currency is stronger which I doubt not.
btw guys u know if that sub green bazel black dial in Msia? I was like wow and still lime wow :Cheers:
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Dad just got his first Rolex today ;D
Mine hopefully very soon :Cheers:
Thanks dc for helping us out. My dad can't stop smiling mate :)
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You and family welcome here. Pleasure meeting you people in person.
Your dad is a speed buyer, glad that both (your dad and watch) are smiling at each other. The piece is considered a full set together with box and paper. Would consider a good buy at the current rates.
Hope you will get your grail soon.
dc
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David, you own a watch shop?
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hanz i also not sure that time he own the shop or not. What I do know is that having him there makes buying enjoyable.
My dad until this morning still smiling haha
I have taken wrist shots with his watch ;D will post it up and also my pen collections :Cheers:
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hanz / sid
No, i am not in any way related to the shop or the owner. Nor I am his so-called agent.
My usual hunt with other watch kakis at the shop make our weekend gtg worthwhile having the opportunity to view and molest what ever watches the owner brings in. The shopowner have had given us the first review of any inventory he brought in. There are many rare watches normal moral like us had even a chance to lay our hand on....e.g..the single and the double red..etc.
Like wise another member is also the usual kakis in our group/s.
dc
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hanz / sid
No, i am not in any way related to the shop or the owner. Nor I am his so-called agent.
My usual hunt with other watch kakis at the shop make our weekend gtg worthwhile having the opportunity to view and molest what ever watches the owner brings in. The shopowner have had given us the first review of any inventory he brought in. There are many rare watches normal moral like us had even a chance to lay our hand on....e.g..the single and the double red..etc.
Like wise another member is also the usual kakis in our group/s.
dc
Again my friend, thanks for the help.
I will be visiting there on Wednesday to hopefully get my own hahah :Cheers:
Even my fiance whom you met the other day has consented so all clear now :thumbsup:
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We are not here to discuss this matter.
Pm sent bro..and wanna make myself clear..no intention to disrespect any forum members.. :-[
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To his his own. It's a choice anyways, :thumbsup:
Duly noted sir. :thumbsup:
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Dad just got his first Rolex today ;D
Mine hopefully very soon :Cheers:
Thanks dc for helping us out. My dad can't stop smiling mate :)
Wow, congrat to your dad, which model did he get? Sub, Date, Daytona??? You got it from Sxxxxx?
David, is it the same one last time we visited??
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Siodee - Yes, it is..
If the watch you choose and eventually bought keep smiling at you...non stop. Then you know, you have make a good choice,:thumbsup:
Part of my sharing services to keep member/s happy with their purchases
dc
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Siodee - Yes, it is..
If the watch you choose and eventually bought keep smiling at you...non stop. Then you know, you have make a good choice,:thumbsup:
Part of my sharing services to keep member/s happy with their purchases
dc
dc, can't wait to use your service! ;D Too bad the (my) economy isn't too permitting currently. :'(
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errrr can pm me this shop location please.....
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Can pm me also? Hehe...
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Zitan / TheHobbit / ykl
PM sent
dc
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Thank you, dc. :thumbsup:
Thank you, thank you.
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Again my friend, thanks for the help.
I will be visiting there on Wednesday to hopefully get my own hahah :Cheers:
Even my fiance whom you met the other day has consented so all clear now :thumbsup:
Jialat.... got trapped already you.
now she consented and let you get a Rolex because she expects you to get her one in the future. Women are not that easy and innocent
:Laughing_on_floor:
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Simple, to reinforce her consent - buy her a simple air king and she is one happy lady. As is, in future, if you acquire another watch, she will surely 'close' one eye. :Laughing_on_floor:
dc
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Dc, kindly pm me location also...been hunting for preowned ones for quite a while...TQ!
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Wow, congrat to your dad, which model did he get? Sub, Date, Daytona??? You got it from Sxxxxx?
David, is it the same one last time we visited??
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Hi there Siodee, he got an oyster perpetual. Salmon pink dial I think it is. Very nice. even i been wearing it at home haha
I myself have another 2 days to think on what I will get :Dancing_banana:
This has been an expensive break :o
Again my friend, thanks for the help.
I will be visiting there on Wednesday to hopefully get my own hahah :Cheers:
Even my fiance whom you met the other day has consented so all clear now :thumbsup:
Jialat.... got trapped already you.
now she consented and let you get a Rolex because she expects you to get her one in the future. Women are not that easy and innocent
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That is also possible terenceterence but no worries on my part :thumbsup:
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join our Sub ND gang!!!!! :Dancing_banana:
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Terence terence, how did you know I am keen on sub ND? If not available I may get an sub c or GMT, still thinking :thumbsup:
They all look cool. I must have been a confused customer ::) the shop guy didn't want to sell to me. Such a nice chap, ask me to go home and think about it :P
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depends if you need to track the second time zone. between the sub c and gmt2c ..i would prefer a gmt2c because it's cheaper and also having an extra function.
but first my advice:
1. budget
2. function
3. Strap on your wrist and you'll know which one sings to your heart.
but bewarned ..no matter which one you choose... it's never enough. so jsut give in :Laughing_on_floor:
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The GMt was more expensive this time a 2007 model. The sub c 2003, recently serviced and the sub ND no stock so expecting some stock but we shall see. Unfortunately very short time in Msia so I'm gonna get one nevertheless :Praying:
Whichever i will be a happy man hahaha and I reckon i'll buy another in a few years time hahah
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Terence terence, how did you know I am keen on sub ND? If not available I may get an sub c or GMT, still thinking :thumbsup:
They all look cool. I must have been a confused customer ::) the shop guy didn't want to sell to me. Such a nice chap, ask me to go home and think about it :P
Technically the 14060 is called the Submariner and the 16610 is the Submariner Date. ;D
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The GMt was more expensive this time a 2007 model. The sub c 2003, recently serviced and the sub ND no stock so expecting some stock but we shall see. Unfortunately very short time in Msia so I'm gonna get one nevertheless :Praying:
Whichever i will be a happy man hahaha and I reckon i'll buy another in a few years time hahah
SUBc is a 2010 model @ 116610
i think you are are referring to the 16610 Sub Date for the 2003 model.
whereas the 2007 GMT2 would be the ceramic 116710. that is why it cost more than the older Sub Date.
New retail prices of the SUBc 116610 is more expensive than the GMT2c 116710
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Sid
The model you are looking (the other day) at with service paper from RSC is a 16610 Sub Date, circa 2003
The service papar states RM1800 just for an overhaul with no major parts changed
dc
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Thank you friends. Noted on the many slips :P
Still pondering till now. Dreaming of watches now as tomorrow looms :p
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Zitan / TheHobbit / ykl
PM sent
dc
PM me too
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Zitan / TheHobbit / ykl
PM sent
dc
DC, pm me the location please. advance thank you. ;D
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rusminag / watchmanu
PM sent
dc
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PM too!!! Thanks!
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got it, thanks DC :Cheers:
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rusminag / watchmanu
PM sent
dc
Thanks..
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All are welcome.
dc
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not sure if this is news but just saw new Explorer II being sold online...
>RM25k....
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Is it available in ADs? AFAIK, it would not be out this early..
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The newer version has a bigger case, thicker 12-hour hand, & a more contrasting dial with bright orange "Explorer 2". But, worth the extra money? ???
good question...
maybe now not worth it....since most sifus feel this price is to cater for those `I want to be first to own this' people buying...
but assuming prices stabilizes at RM 3k more expensive than the current Exp2 brand new....
then is the extra 3k worth the specs you listed?
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Mine :Cheers:
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Dad's on my wrist ;D
Hope to get nicer pics up but this is a teaser
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Nice one Sid, Non-COSC is the way, simple and clean ;D
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Before joining this forum, I always thought Rolex is for older guys and for big Taukeh to wear but now I can see younger generation ( with enough money ;D ) started wearing Rolex :thumbsup:
Yeah Rolex is a symbol of success and it hold its value well. Now I'm hooked and saving to get one ;D Really like Rolex Submariner looks
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Nice catch bro... Welcome to The Rolex Club...
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Sid
Congrats. You have got yourself one of the grail (Non-COSC) much desired by many rolex kakis here.
I believe, you're one of the happiest owner for now...
dc
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congrats Sid....The No Date Sub is always a beauty...
mind pm me the price?
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Mine on leather says hello! :Cheers:
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Mine :Cheers:
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Dad's on my wrist ;D
Hope to get nicer pics up but this is a teaser
Sid, nice catch, yrs is the one I remembered discuss in one of the thread here, damn, you are moving faster than me. But glad you manage to find yr grail, and yr dad's Oyster is superb, no wonder you said he is keep smiling :Cheers:
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To all my bros in MWF
Thanks so much for the wishes :Cheers:
I have to admit now its my turn to smile constantly hahah :Laughing_on_floor:
Siodee: I have to admit that dc helped me on this, if he does not know the Mr Lam person mungkin tak dapat already. I see you funding so many grails at once :P but no worries mate, all will get one with some time
Zitan: I am waiting for good news on your part
Compaq10: My thoughts exactly hahah, my fiance asked the uncle if the cyclops was for older people who cannot see well :Laughing_on_floor: I think Mr Lam also surprised with that question
Landyshah: Simple and clean, exactly!
Got the 14060m cause i too am lazy to turn the date part :Laughing_on_floor:
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Yup, working hard now ;D, did you see his collection of the Pepsi and Coke, stunning :Startled: he is knowledgeable of the Roli :thumbsup: Did you still see the BUTI there??
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BUTI was there on Sunday
When I went to see the watch, he only displayed my 3 choices 14060m, Sub-C and GMT coke!
Long and hard I think, the few times i went there no 14060m but the moment it was there among the rest, I just had to have it compared to the rest.
However he did me a service, said it looks nice on my fiance wrist too ;D so maybe got chance to get another one :Laughing_on_floor: She already thinking about it so means, I can save and get another one....hulk without much problem I hope :Praying:
I saw the cabinet with pepsi GMT, Sub Red and my birthday year Sub as well...beautiful...since I change my flight to leave on Sunday now due to unfinish business I might drop by on Sat to intro my brother to the place so he knows where to find his :Cheers:
I think the bug has bitten fairly hard this time
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:Laughing_on_floor:, now you spread the poison to all your family member, Guess DC did a good job to get it started ;D
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bro Sid...dont forget to pm me pricing and details of watch please... :Cheers:
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pexus PM sent :)
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pexus PM sent :)
bro sid, pm me too. thanks. ;D
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Mine :Cheers:
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Dad's on my wrist ;D
Hope to get nicer pics up but this is a teaser
Congrats. Wear it with good health. Must make an effort to visit this place. Let's see, Saturday arrive, Sunday visit? Are they open on Sunday? Monday depart. Let's see what happens.....
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I think you have to own a Rolex, before you can learn to appreciate the Rolex from the detail craftmanship, the quality to the movement and ticking of the watch.
A watch is like a car - you can pay 120k for a Honda and you can also pay 300k for a BMW. But you need to drive the car everyday before you learn to appreciate the car.
The choice is yours, make sure what you pay is worth every moment you enjoy the product; before the law of diminishing of returns kicks in :)
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Bluefish :thumbsup:
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Thanks to all the compliments. As a watch lover, I just did my part to make life easier for the would be buyer/s esp from our forum.
Ballaviator and I was there last sunday and if you asked him, he is one happy guy to molest so many watches in one afternoon.
dc
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I manage to catch up with rusminag and dc on Saturday before I flew off :thumbsup:
Again thanks dc...the sub is now experiencing freezing temps here and is still working fine :)
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I manage to catch up with rusminag and dc on Saturday before I flew off :thumbsup:
Again thanks dc...the sub is now experiencing freezing temps here and is still working fine :)
Nice meeting you guys. Although my deal didn't go through, the hunt will go on...
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Nice meeting you guys. Although my deal didn't go through, the hunt will go on...
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Long and hard I think
That's what YOU think
However he did me a service
ewww. :laugh:
Back on topic - after wearing a rolex for 6 months, I observe that men have a greater propensity to go gaga over (my) Rolex; certainly not the demography I'm after. Don't these people know how rude it is to stare???
Pros: Wearing a Rolex gets you the attention.
Cons: Just not women's attention. :-[
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Personally, the less attention I get the better heh
Anyway, most women cant tell the difference from a Swatch or a Rollie, so its a meaningless exercise ;D
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Sigh...
Most women / ladies on this forum and our the 'other half' CAN tell the differences....
dc
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They may or may not be smarter but definitely have sharp eyes for expensive brands
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Hi there Brolex = Bro Rolex
Welcome to the forum finally :)
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My 2 sen: If their partner is a WIS, then likely. If they are on this forum, of course. If the brand is expensive, then quite possible (mostly limited to Rolex and Omega).
Apart from that, in my experience, most dont care as long as its Swiss made, looks good and tells time without fuss. This might apply to men also ::)
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Pros: Wearing a Rolex gets you the attention.
Cons: Just not women's attention. :-[
not 100% right.... not every1 and everywhere u wear rolex u get attention....
i notice so many ppl in singapore wearing rolex.... so if u wear one there, u wont get any attention....
wearing a rolex in those biz association dinner also the same...
wear it in a ball, u will get different attention...
and ppl like me wear rolex also wont get attention in the normal crowded area....
bcoz i'm a KAKI SELEKEH :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
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Correct me if I am wrong but I heard from a friend that Rolex watches are the only watches that you can change the date irregardless of the hour hand position.
Any truth to this?
As I recall, it's better not to change date when the dour hand is at certain time of the day as the date change mechanism is already engaged so if any adjustments made during the time will "hurt" the movement.
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and ppl like me wear rolex also wont get attention in the normal crowded area....
bcoz i'm a KAKI SELEKEH :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
On the contrary, people are drawn to the watch precisely because I'm the most selekeh Malay in Sarawak. They usually have a "how can this coolie afford that watch" look on their face.
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Welcome to the kuli rank, but, unlike ikan bilis, some super kuli can wear lowlex :Laughing_on_floor:
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Correct me if I am wrong but I heard from a friend that Rolex watches are the only watches that you can change the date irregardless of the hour hand position.
Any truth to this?
As I recall, it's better not to change date when the dour hand is at certain time of the day as the date change mechanism is already engaged so if any adjustments made during the time will "hurt" the movement.
Erm... no answers on the above? ???
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NOT true.
Same rules apply.
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he wore a Rolex and got robbed....inside prison...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3738566/Jailed-MP-Elliot-Morley-is-robbed-of-watch.html
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Cool way to wear a Rolex: GQ mag Aug 2011
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Correct me if I am wrong but I heard from a friend that Rolex watches are the only watches that you can change the date irregardless of the hour hand position.
Any truth to this?
As I recall, it's better not to change date when the dour hand is at certain time of the day as the date change mechanism is already engaged so if any adjustments made during the time will "hurt" the movement.
i'm not quite sure what the question is about but you might be referring to quickset date function.
as to changing the date when the hour hands are at certain positions "hurting" the movement, it believe it does not apply to Rolex movements.
BTW, you should have asked on a new topic and not piggy-back here since it's not really related to this thread.
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This is the norm here. Members piggy back on others instead of starting a new thread. it makes it difficult to search for content based on the the subject. :(
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I can see that feature being seen either as a pro or con, I suppose. *shrugs*
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Should have added that piggyback posts won't get much response due to thread title alone.
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Note:I dont create this all by myself,just happen to find this over askmen.com. Thought sharing with you all and lastly no offense to who love rolex
Arguments against Rolex
Rolex Movements Are Over-Hyped
First, the movement quality of your run-of-the-mill Rolex is nothing special. In fact, many much more affordable Swiss watches use movements that keep time just as well. To add insult to injury, there are even some Chinese, Japanese and Russian movements that are just as -- if not more -- accurate as a standard Rolex movement.
Rolex Watches Look Stale
Rolex’s designs are stale. This brand hasn’t released a truly new model in over a decade, and the majority of the watches it makes today are exact duplicates of the watches it made half a century ago. In fact, the biggest innovation it has made in recent years is a new metal called “Rolesor,” which is heavily advertised as a great new substance for watchmaking. Guess what; it’s just steel and gold.
Rolex Stories Are Nothing But A Myth
All those stories you hear about Rolexes being chosen as the watch for great adventures are only half true. For example, Rolex claims Sir Edmund Hillary wore an Explorer when he scaled the summit of Mount Everest for the first time. This is not the case. In fact, he only carried the Explorer until he reached the summit and then put on a watch from a small British company called Smiths. Hillary even wrote a signed letter endorsement to Smiths stating: “I carried your watch to the summit and it worked perfectly.” Rolex also submitted a watch to NASA in the early ‘60s to be considered for use in the moon missions. We all know how that turned out.
Rolex Watches Are For Seniors Or Rappers
It is rare for a brand to be considered both stodgy and lame and ghetto fabulous at the very same time, yet Rolex has done it. If you ask one person on the street what they think of Rolex, they’ll tell you their elderly grandfather wears one in between rounds of golf and his daily 2 p.m. nap. If you ask another, they’ll tell you the only people that wear Rolexes are athletes and rappers. So which are you, a sleepy 85-year-old bald man or an 18-year-old athlete from the hood trying to prove his worth to the world?
Rolex Watches Are For Posers
If you are not one of the two groups mentioned above, wearing a Rolex oozes desperation. Yes, a Rolex is the most recognizable watch on the planet -- now is that supposed to be a good thing? Young men that don a Rolex are perceived as self-absorbed, insecure and image-obsessed by those around them. Essentially, you just look like a douche. Be confident enough in yourself and in your sense of style that you don’t need to be wearing a veritable calling card of the nouveau riche.
Arguments for Rolex
Rolex Watches Are Classic
You’ll see below that most Rolex watches are archetypes: The Rolex Submariner is the classic diver’s watch, The Rolex Datejust is the classic formal men’s watch of the last half century and The Rolex Daytona is the classic sports chronograph. Rolex has benefited from keeping its product line simple and consistent. Instead of releasing brand new models, it keeps refining existing designs. This is extremely important because each watch contains the suggestions and wearing experiences of countless people who together have helped create timepieces that look good and work well.
Take the Rolex Submariner line as an example. Based on the classic “Oyster” water-resistant watch cases, the timepiece is specifically designed to be easy to read in most conditions, to be hardy and have a comfortable and reliable construction. The Submariner design has achieved an almost impossible task: to look good on almost every person, on any occasion, regardless of age or outfit. Other Rolex watches edge close to this ideal as well. You have to ask yourself the question of whether that is due to something about the design of these watches or rather because we have been seeing them on important wrists our whole lives, and they simply mentally fit these positive watch stereotypes.
James Bond Wore A Rolex
Omega doesn’t want you to know this, but the original James Bond watch was a Rolex Submariner. Creator Ian Fleming wrote that Bond was wearing the timepiece, while Sean Connery in the role brandished his Submariner proudly. Countless actors, celebrities and politicians have also been known to be Rolex men. Take the popular line of Paul Newman Daytona watches, or the Rolex Day-Date nicknamed the “President,” because many U.S. presidents (and otherwise) during the 20th century were known to wear the watch. Wearing a Rolex and being associated with these people and personalities can hardly be described as something you’d want to avoid.
Rolex Watches Are The Ultimate Status Symbol
Wearing a Rolex watch communicates to people that you are successful enough to have rewarded yourself with the luxury of a nice watch. Rolex watches are not the only luxury watches out there by far, but they are the most well-known. From basic entry-level luxury models to diamond-encrusted gold watches for the ultra-privileged, a Rolex is so much more than a mere timepiece. It is a statement about your way of life and taste. Some people take it even further; the world of aftermarket Rolex watches feature decorated brims and jewel encrusted designs, suggesting that telling time becomes a mere afterthought.
Other watches also want to be like Rolex, whose designs are the most copied the world over. Most of these watches legitimize “homage” timepieces with a different brand name, but there is of course the dark underworld of fakes as well. You’ll find at least a little of Rolex design in the majority of nice watches out there. So, even if you don’t have a watch with the Rolex name, chances are there is a bit of Rolex influence. You can’t deny that even if Rolex watch designs don’t move you, a big part of you wants one.
Rolex Watches Have Excellent Movements
Being a company that makes all of its own parts (rare in the watch world), it goes without saying that Rolex makes each of its own movements (historically, this was not always the case), excluding other watch companies from using Rolex mechanical movements. While Rolex is not known in the modern sense for having particularly complex movements (it offers basic watches with features such as the time, date, day, or a chronograph), it is preferred by watch makers to work on being so well designed, easy to fix and highly reliable. As such, almost every Rolex movement sold is COSC certified Chronometer attesting to its accuracy.
Rolex Watches Hold Value
Among the few truly collectible watch brands from a value perspective are Rolex timepieces. It has been said that you can buy a new Rolex Submariner today, wear it for five years, and then sell it in good condition for close to the original purchase price. Like cars, most other watches lose a chunk of their value after being sized and put on a buyer’s wrist. There are also the investment-grade Rolex watches that achieve stellar auction results yielding some of the most impressive prices ever known at an auction. This is due to the power behind the Rolex name and brand, as well as the world’s fervor for these “gold standard” super watches.
A simple guy like me with small earning.
For Rolex: They are beautiful.
Against Rolex: The selling price and service cost are pricey.
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Rolex is a good watch. It's a tool watch that can be worn everyday.
The only thing that sucks is that everyone has one and you aren't unique. You go to any wedding and you'll see so many people with Rolex. There's nothing wrong with liking a Rolex, just the same as many people enjoy the Beatles or Michael Jackson. Keep in mind they make 800k watches a year.
But if you're a wis who likes movement and finishing, the history of watchmaking, you'll likely won't be a Rolex fan. I don't see the late George Daniels, RW Smith, Journe etc owning a Rolex. I've seen them own vintage Omega, Heuer and JLC.
I also find the marketing of Rolex quite deplorable. Where they get people like John Mayer giving rave reviews saying that the new Daytona is actually 10k usd more than the retail, have Federer rubbing his hands like a kid getting candy, etc.
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For Rolex the pic above. Enough said.
Btw FPJ also recommend in an interview if budget around 10k usd go for Rolex.
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He did recommend it. And the interviewer laughed a bit. To which Journe had to say again that it was a good tool watch.
The Daytona you bought is lovely. But you didn't pay 10k USD above the retail for it right? :)
I prefer the older Daytonas with less lines and Panda eyes though. Same with the Subs, the 5513 is my more ideal sub.
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https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/that-time-revolution-asked-roger-smith-kari-voutilainen-laurent-ferrier-and-philippe-dufour-what-watch-theyd-recommend-for-under-10000
a good read. the masters have spoken!
but on Roger Smith's instagram, you can see that he owns an Omega Seamaster and a vintage Heuer. The late G Daniels had a JLC Mark XI.
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He did recommend it. And the interviewer laughed a bit. To which Journe had to say again that it was a good tool watch.
The Daytona you bought is lovely. But you didn't pay 10k USD above the retail for it right? :)
I prefer the older Daytonas with less lines and Panda eyes though. Same with the Subs, the 5513 is my more ideal sub.
Ok for Rolex:
a lot of Vintage pieces are extremely desirable and prices are reflected by auction results.
Against Rolex:
Franken and Re-Dials for the vintage pieces. Makes it difficult for the non experts to acquire one.
PS:
I got mine at retail. No way I would pay over retail for Daytona C. I don't think the premiums could last in this economy. Markets are collapsing. And I prefer vintage subs and daytonas too.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I heard from a friend that Rolex watches are the only watches that you can change the date irregardless of the hour hand position.
Any truth to this?
As I recall, it's better not to change date when the dour hand is at certain time of the day as the date change mechanism is already engaged so if any adjustments made during the time will "hurt" the movement.
Erm... no answers on the above? ???
My Explorer II 16570 changing is by moving the hour hand. Yes, I think this is true at least for my Explorer.
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Why Rolex?
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Great build quality, easy to service, easy to move (if have to), reliable
And not something you will see very often in the wild either.
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Not see very often? :Startled:
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Not see very often? :Startled:
Should have made it clearer, in reference to the watch in the photo.
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Great build quality, easy to service, easy to move (if have to), reliable
And not something you will see very often in the wild either.
Easy to move? I presume you mean resale :) every watch is easy to move hahhahah
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Not see very often? :Startled:
Should have made it clearer, in reference to the watch in the photo.
That's a beauty! I haven't seen that in the wild also only saw the silver/plat dial version.
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Great build quality, easy to service, easy to move (if have to), reliable
And not something you will see very often in the wild either.
Easy to move? I presume you mean resale :) every watch is easy to move hahhahah
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Not see very often? :Startled:
Should have made it clearer, in reference to the watch in the photo.
That's a beauty! I haven't seen that in the wild also only saw the silver/plat dial version.
More so since this watch is not what you think it is. :)
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well... when we discuss about watches.... rolex will always be on the list!
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Imagine a collector without at a piece of rolex. No doubt the Daytona have one of the very best movement that
has a vertical coupling , column wheel and real 72 hours Pr.
But I won't be paying 20k Rm premium for a watch that has 2 lugs thinner on the crown and pusher side than the other 2 .
They should have make the SS Daytona casing similar to the everose gold ceramic Daytona casing then only
I would put my $ down. It's only my opinion .
Regards.
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Imagine a collector without at a piece of rolex. No doubt the Daytona have one of the very best movement that
has a vertical coupling , column wheel and real 72 hours Pr.
But I won't be paying 20k Rm premium for a watch that has 2 lugs thinner on the crown and pusher side than the other 2 .
They should have make the SS Daytona casing similar to the everose gold ceramic Daytona casing then only
I would put my $ down. It's only my opinion .
Regards.
ROLEX HQ
Boss : Guys, we need to minimize cost as possible and maximize profit. Come out with an idea so we could proceed on creating Baselworld 2016 models and to save our jobs and the company.
Designer & Marketing Team: Boss, since we have tons of 116520 steel cases, why dont we just create a new SS Daytona with a lil twist?
Boss : Hmm interesting, continue...
Designer & Marketing Team: Why dont we make lil twist and change the steel bezel to ceramic and do some modification on dial, this will be different from the current 116520. Maybe we could name it 116500 with new bezel and dial. This, in our opinion will be minimizing our cost very much and we could make a long waiting list for ADs so there will be premium over the waiting list just like what happened to 116520 and maximize the profit.
Boss: Very interesting! Proceed! Cant wait too see the crazy premium go all iver the ADs and Dealers :Laughing_on_floor:
Thats what happening right noe and for the mean time Rolex gives you :HammerHead: for paying the premium!
ROLEX: Thanks for helping us in maintaining especially in this bad economic days :Jumping:
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My opinion on Rolex
Pros: Durability and Versatility
Cons: some bullshit premiums and waiting list for a watch that produce almost a million a year ????
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Say what you want,A Rolex is A Rolex is A Rolex.
It doesn't matter if it's just a hype,or overprice or old fashion.It just commands attention evertyime.
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100% agree :thumbsup:
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Say what you want,A Rolex is A Rolex is A Rolex.
It doesn't matter if it's just a hype,or overprice or old fashion.It just commands attention evertyime.
Without any premiums on certain models than you are correct.
I do own rolex watches but paying premium for it is bullshit IMO
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Without any premiums on certain models than you are correct.
I do own rolex watches but paying premium for it is bullshit IMO
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That's exactly what I mean.
There are people who's against paying premium or waiting in line for Rolex,but for everyone who's against it,there are countless others who happily go for it.
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Rolex movement is amazing!
Both are more than 40yrs old but after service their accuracy stay at +1 second/day at horizontal position.
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Good write up by chris. :thumbsup:
No right no wrong just preference and probably affordability :D
I like RM but at the moment still could not afford ;D
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This is my uncle's. He told me he bought it in Penang circa 1972 for around RM1600. A few years back he was offerred RM20k for it.
What do you guys think? Does it worth that much?
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd413/rhamir67/Rolex.jpg)
wow ..a gold plated 1550 with missing crown and heavily oxidised hands, dial and bracelet + watch worth 20k?
even a pristine complete set 1550 is not worth more than 5k
btw i am no expert but did they made a gold 1550 or "1558" ?
My preowned original Rolex 15505 is already MYR 10.5k. :o
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Some buy rolek to show off it's wealth, so they buy the bling bling one
some buy rolek bcoz they dunno other gd watch brand
some buy rolek bcoz rolek is very liquid
some buy rolex bcoz they know rolex is tough n they jus dun feel like wearing something cheap
some buy rolex with modification to match their style
Some buy rolex because they understand rolex, they love rolex, they collect rolex...
So to talk about good or bad bout rolex? Depend u talk to who...
U talk to rolek owner sure he said gd bcoz he had the bling bling one, he dunno other brand, he can sell it with money at pawn shop jus in case....
U talk to those who know rolex n watches, then u can get different opinion....
So important is not about how good or how bad is rolex? But how good n how bad are you when u consider rolex!
Zhou mai Zhou lo dou
chi mai mo de lo
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HAHAHA... once a watch salesman told me that Lolek is a "Contractor's Watch", which means someone who just recently got rich but not sophisticated enough to know other brands
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Rolex or other haute horology watch maker brand is an art. You don't buy a 30k watch to tell time. If you want accuracy, you have your phone or can opt to buy a rm200 casio digital watch.
People who are willing to spend huge amount on watches just enjoy the amount of workmanship, attention and detail put into a small case which you can proudly display on your wrist and appreciate. It also acts as a conversation piece to other like minded individual.
Before I bought my first expensive watch I always told myself that I will never spend more than 2k on a watch but something changed after I got into this hobby :Cheers:
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There will always be Fanboys and Haters, I'm somewhere between that on rolex watches, previously owned Steel and Gold Blue Dial Submariner and Datejust both Sold, No Regrets, I got fed up with being asked if the watch is "Real rolex" . So now everytime I see someone else wears rolex, I too wonder if it is "Real"...hahaha😂
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