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Title: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: danven on March 21, 2011, 08:00:57 PM
Plan to buy a Panerai, however there are few questions wish to ask all the SIFUs here...

1. u guys recommend to buy which model?
2. should i go for second hand? if not, y ?
3. why most of the watch lovers like Panerai?
4. Should i buy it from Singapore or Malaysia?

your reply will be very much appreciated. thanks


Darren
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 21, 2011, 10:23:55 PM
1. u guys recommend to buy which model?
Go through the catalogue/photos and price list and choose the one u like and also the one within ur budget. Buy the one u like and you'll be happier instead of just buying any watch within ur budget and be left hankering for another.

2. should i go for second hand? if not, y ?
If the price/condition/specific model is the right one and you do not mind, why not?

3. why most of the watch lovers like Panerai?
Not "everyone" likes Pam. 

4. Should i buy it from Singapore or Malaysia?
Any ADs or trusted/reliable parallel/re-sellers would be fine as long as you get the specific model you are looking for and the price is right


the range of models and prices vary too much for anyone to give you a recommendation. set your budget and narrow it down to a few models and then maybe it's easier for everyone to give an opinion
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: danven on March 21, 2011, 10:35:36 PM
Bro,  can pm me the website or source to get Pam price n catalogue? Tq
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: almond on March 21, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
2 cts - Choose between auto or handwind. For all Panerai starters , the Historic models is a safe choice, bcos its the entry level model to determine your passion for the brand. IMO, PAM is a love or hate affair. Something like Alfa Romeo.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: danven on March 22, 2011, 07:44:46 AM
2 cts - Choose between auto or handwind. For all Panerai starters , the Historic models is a safe choice, bcos its the entry level model to determine your passion for the brand. IMO, PAM is a love or hate affair. Something like Alfa Romeo.

Prefer auto as damn lazy to wind the watch everyday. Can pm some models for me to choose? Tq for ur reply bro...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: G.MAC on March 22, 2011, 08:47:45 AM
Many models to choose from, PAM 104,164,312,287,351,359 etc etc
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: danven on March 22, 2011, 10:55:49 AM
Many models to choose from, PAM 104,164,312,287,351,359 etc etc

Bro, mind to share where can i get all above retail selling price both in malaysia n singapre besides go to authorized dealer boutique. In addition,  normally how many % of discount they practiced in retail? need to survey ard before make the purchase, limited budget...  :P   

thanks 
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: TheHobbit on March 22, 2011, 11:56:15 AM
Many models to choose from, PAM 104,164,312,287,351,359 etc etc

Bro, mind to share where can i get all above retail selling price both in malaysia n singapre besides go to authorized dealer boutique. In addition,  normally how many % of discount they practiced in retail? need to survey ard before make the purchase, limited budget...  :P   

thanks 

Check out Panerai official website and you will be able to find all the authorised AD for Malaysia and Singapore. Also you can see and read all about the available models that Panerai offers. As for the retail prices, visit the AD and they will be able to quote you the prices of the models you are interested in. It is best to visit the AD as you can see for yourself, try out the models you are interested in (assuming they have it). If not, try searching the Internet and you will find some 'hard core' Panerai website where they have resource section in which you can find the prices in USD or Euro.

All the best with the hunt.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: danven on March 22, 2011, 12:19:46 PM
Many models to choose from, PAM 104,164,312,287,351,359 etc etc

Bro, mind to share where can i get all above retail selling price both in malaysia n singapre besides go to authorized dealer boutique. In addition,  normally how many % of discount they practiced in retail? need to survey ard before make the purchase, limited budget...  :P   

thanks 

Check out Panerai official website and you will be able to find all the authorised AD for Malaysia and Singapore. Also you can see and read all about the available models that Panerai offers. As for the retail prices, visit the AD and they will be able to quote you the prices of the models you are interested in. It is best to visit the AD as you can see for yourself, try out the models you are interested in (assuming they have it). If not, try searching the Internet and you will find some 'hard core' Panerai website where they have resource section in which you can find the prices in USD or Euro.

All the best with the hunt.



Thanks for your reply bro... will try to walk in to Local AD this weekend. thanks
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: chrisyen on March 22, 2011, 12:39:51 PM
Walk to AD not many units available...

Some one new to pams.... All model look the same, end up buying what sales recommended n available at the ad
so u r either too lucky to hv the rare one but 90% chance u get a hard to sell model... Lol

my 1 cent.
Do some homework b4 u go to AD
most watch forum recommended the following historical models
which has proven it's reliability....
1. Luminor - pam000, 005, 111, 112, 176, 177

2. Radiomir - pam210, 183
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: danven on March 22, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
This is the reason Y I wanna seek for help from SIFUs here. To me, most of them looks similar but price wise could diff alot.. Any sources for me obtain retail selling price both in Malaysia n Sg? Chris, will really look into ur suggested models. Tqvm
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: ancs88 on March 22, 2011, 03:01:28 PM
First of all, why do u want to own a PAM if u think they all look the same? Do u really like it and appreciate it or u want to buy a PAM coz for some other reasons?

Since PAMs doesn't come cheap, I rather you do some homework b4 getting it!

1) We need to know the budget for recommendation
2) Type of case (Luminor/Rad/1950/44mm, etc
3) Movement

Good luck!
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: Omnipotent on March 22, 2011, 04:19:15 PM
2 cts - Choose between auto or handwind. For all Panerai starters , the Historic models is a safe choice, bcos its the entry level model to determine your passion for the brand. IMO, PAM is a love or hate affair. Something like Alfa Romeo.

I disagree with the analogy...alfa romeo is sexy and drives like a dream...PAM is huge in size and presence...a Land Rover is more appropriate  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: almond on March 22, 2011, 04:47:29 PM
Since u wan an auto
The popular ones now are:
312 - 20k +
320 - 2xk +
351 - 2xk +
Discount varies
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 22, 2011, 05:00:57 PM
Discount varies


If there's any  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: wslee on March 22, 2011, 06:43:37 PM
Since u wan an auto
The popular ones now are:
312 - 20k +
320 - 2xk +
351 - 2xk +
Discount varies


Currency in Malaysia or SG?
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: almond on March 22, 2011, 06:54:09 PM
Tough luck. Try private  dealers. There a few in KL.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: G.MAC on March 22, 2011, 08:02:31 PM
Currency should be in RM since if it in SG, the price would be slightly absurd and too high.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: dsiewmy on March 22, 2011, 08:25:34 PM
i think there are a few dealers in klang valley who have quite a large range for panerais.

for pams, it is important that u see them in flesh and try them on.

although they look similar, but they are very much different from one another.

if your budget is below 15k, then u  have the 0 and 5 which are the best bets and basically fly off the shelves. i have never seen a 0 and 5 in an AD LOL. these models are their "BASE" models with no complications or functions whatsoever (manual winding also).

if your budget is below or around 20k, then u can try the 111, 112, 312. basically more money is spent because u get additional features like display caseback, and maybe even a date function and automatic winding with the 312. on the 312 you also get the very nice and sexy 1950s case.

if your budget is around 25k, then u have a lotttt of pams to choose from. you can choose special editions, vintages, etc etc etc etc.

my advise, go view them first, but don't be swayed by the salesperson. after seeing what u think u like, come back here and tell us what u have seen.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: zameenzahari on March 23, 2011, 10:31:41 AM
i think there are a few dealers in klang valley who have quite a large range for panerais.

for pams, it is important that u see them in flesh and try them on.

although they look similar, but they are very much different from one another.

if your budget is below 15k, then u  have the 0 and 5 which are the best bets and basically fly off the shelves. i have never seen a 0 and 5 in an AD LOL. these models are their "BASE" models with no complications or functions whatsoever (manual winding also).

if your budget is below or around 20k, then u can try the 111, 112, 312. basically more money is spent because u get additional features like display caseback, and maybe even a date function and automatic winding with the 312. on the 312 you also get the very nice and sexy 1950s case.

if your budget is around 25k, then u have a lotttt of pams to choose from. you can choose special editions, vintages, etc etc etc etc.

my advise, go view them first, but don't be swayed by the salesperson. after seeing what u think u like, come back here and tell us what u have seen.


I'm sorry but I dont think you can get many SEs for RM25k unless its at retail or its one of the Boutique editions(either way its quite hard to get )...as for vintages...Its upwards USD 100k....for 25k USD maybe you can get some of the Pre-Vs like the Mares but they are not vintages..

RM25k budget will get you a few contemporary models or some historics with spare change for straps. The Panerai website whould be able to guide you. As for the price list in USD/EURO/GBP, you can get from Paneristi (you can use that as base for reference)



Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: air on March 23, 2011, 11:15:15 AM
yep... you need min USD30k to get nice pre-V like 201A..

for me, it is all about your personal preference,how much the pam suits you and not how much it cost...

Happy hunting....

my 0.02... he he he
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: hanz079 on March 23, 2011, 11:26:06 AM
Erm... this might sound like a noob question but can anyone provide a crash course on panerai watches?
What does the model number mean? 000? 005? 111?
Is the higher the number, the more complications hence more expensive?
All I know is PAM 000 is the base model, a must have if you're serious into Panerai... :Cheers:
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: G.MAC on March 23, 2011, 11:27:26 AM
its just a model number. nothing exclusive. Maybe it also has something to do with year of production?
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 23, 2011, 11:33:20 AM
it's jsut model numbers.

easiest way is to jsut go to the official website and put ur name and address for the catalogue request and then wait a week or 2 and you'll get a giant full coloured catalogue

https://www.panerai.com/secure/s_contatti.xpd?id_sezione=11&id_lingua=2&mode=new (https://www.panerai.com/secure/s_contatti.xpd?id_sezione=11&id_lingua=2&mode=new)

the MRSP prices are not secret. try googling up the latest price list.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: hanz079 on March 23, 2011, 11:41:54 AM
it's jsut model numbers.

easiest way is to jsut go to the official website and put ur name and address for the catalogue request and then wait a week or 2 and you'll get a giant full coloured catalogue

https://www.panerai.com/secure/s_contatti.xpd?id_sezione=11&id_lingua=2&mode=new (https://www.panerai.com/secure/s_contatti.xpd?id_sezione=11&id_lingua=2&mode=new)

the MRSP prices are not secret. try googling up the latest price list.


Done!! Thanks. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: zameenzahari on March 23, 2011, 01:16:54 PM
it's jsut model numbers.

easiest way is to jsut go to the official website and put ur name and address for the catalogue request and then wait a week or 2 and you'll get a giant full coloured catalogue

https://www.panerai.com/secure/s_contatti.xpd?id_sezione=11&id_lingua=2&mode=new (https://www.panerai.com/secure/s_contatti.xpd?id_sezione=11&id_lingua=2&mode=new)

the MRSP prices are not secret. try googling up the latest price list.


Excellent advice...make sure you click on both the normal and SE catalogues (you'll have to request twice)...keep those..even the older catalogues are being sold for silly prices ;)
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: ancs88 on March 23, 2011, 01:43:25 PM
it's jsut model numbers.

easiest way is to jsut go to the official website and put ur name and address for the catalogue request and then wait a week or 2 and you'll get a giant full coloured catalogue

https://www.panerai.com/secure/s_contatti.xpd?id_sezione=11&id_lingua=2&mode=new (https://www.panerai.com/secure/s_contatti.xpd?id_sezione=11&id_lingua=2&mode=new)

the MRSP prices are not secret. try googling up the latest price list.


Excellent advice...make sure you click on both the normal and SE catalogues (you'll have to request twice)...keep those..even the older catalogues are being sold for silly prices ;)


I've tried that online but so far never receive anything from Panerai, probably I'm in China and the address is in Chinese. Anyway, I got the 2010 catalog directly from the boutique here.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 23, 2011, 01:49:30 PM
not sure about that but from what i gather, they would direct the address and your particulars to your local richemont and it is sent out from there

China being having a Boutique...i am not sure why they would not send out a catalogue to you
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: danven on March 23, 2011, 02:29:25 PM
Thanks for the precious comments, I think I will visit some secondhand shop at subang, bt bintang to hunt for my 1st panerai.. Or u guys pls pm me any trustable secondhand shop which provide good deal. Once again, thanks alot..
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: zameenzahari on March 23, 2011, 02:44:08 PM
Thanks for the precious comments, I think I will visit some secondhand shop at subang, bt bintang to hunt for my 1st panerai.. Or u guys pls pm me any trustable secondhand shop which provide good deal. Once again, thanks alot..

If you want recommendations in Singapore, pls pm me
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: dsiewmy on March 23, 2011, 05:18:58 PM
i think there are a few dealers in klang valley who have quite a large range for panerais.

for pams, it is important that u see them in flesh and try them on.

although they look similar, but they are very much different from one another.

if your budget is below 15k, then u  have the 0 and 5 which are the best bets and basically fly off the shelves. i have never seen a 0 and 5 in an AD LOL. these models are their "BASE" models with no complications or functions whatsoever (manual winding also).

if your budget is below or around 20k, then u can try the 111, 112, 312. basically more money is spent because u get additional features like display caseback, and maybe even a date function and automatic winding with the 312. on the 312 you also get the very nice and sexy 1950s case.

if your budget is around 25k, then u have a lotttt of pams to choose from. you can choose special editions, vintages, etc etc etc etc.

my advise, go view them first, but don't be swayed by the salesperson. after seeing what u think u like, come back here and tell us what u have seen.


I'm sorry but I dont think you can get many SEs for RM25k unless its at retail or its one of the Boutique editions(either way its quite hard to get )...as for vintages...Its upwards USD 100k....for 25k USD maybe you can get some of the Pre-Vs like the Mares but they are not vintages..

RM25k budget will get you a few contemporary models or some historics with spare change for straps. The Panerai website whould be able to guide you. As for the price list in USD/EURO/GBP, you can get from Paneristi (you can use that as base for reference)





bro, SEs at 25k still got la. don't forget there are still preowned 232, 28L, 26K etc. etc. around this price. still tons of DNA.

as for vintage, what i meant was out of production. he can get a 1A,2A, 2BT or that sort around 30k+/- which is also a stone throw away from 25k.
maybe i've been reading the rolex report too much, they regard vintage as a model which is no longer in production. that's what i meant :)

Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: wslee on March 23, 2011, 10:24:13 PM
Buying from (local AD/pre owned) and (overseas AD/pre owned),which one is more cheaper?
I had heard that in overseas,u can buy more cheaper
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: TheHobbit on March 24, 2011, 08:22:03 AM
Don't know about new prices as I think it is pretty standard worldwide, savings may be due to VAT and FOREX. However, on the pre-loved market, the price does vary. I think, based on what I saw, it is cheaper to buy from overseas. However, if you are buying on-line, you have to decide if the 'risk' is worth it.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: danven on March 24, 2011, 11:06:06 AM
Don't know about new prices as I think it is pretty standard worldwide, savings may be due to VAT and FOREX. However, on the pre-loved market, the price does vary. I think, based on what I saw, it is cheaper to buy from overseas. However, if you are buying on-line, you have to decide if the 'risk' is worth it.


Agree with u. Will only buy from those online sellers who have good online trading records and feedbacks. Will visit Singapore next week, hope to have good deal at pre-loved market there and do some comparison to online traders. Thanks 
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: somdej on June 06, 2014, 03:59:38 PM
what is the historical models for submersible?

Walk to AD not many units available...

Some one new to pams.... All model look the same, end up buying what sales recommended n available at the ad
so u r either too lucky to hv the rare one but 90% chance u get a hard to sell model... Lol

my 1 cent.
Do some homework b4 u go to AD
most watch forum recommended the following historical models
which has proven it's reliability....
1. Luminor - pam000, 005, 111, 112, 176, 177

2. Radiomir - pam210, 183
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: Ian Fleming on June 08, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
should you be around Bukit Bintang, Sincere Watches @ Pavilon does carry quite a number.

or...

a lot of reputable merchants in our Forum you can get from.
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: chrisyen on June 08, 2014, 02:37:29 PM
actually no historical model for submersible!
submersible is all modern pam


what is the historical models for submersible?

Walk to AD not many units available...

Some one new to pams.... All model look the same, end up buying what sales recommended n available at the ad
so u r either too lucky to hv the rare one but 90% chance u get a hard to sell model... Lol

my 1 cent.
Do some homework b4 u go to AD
most watch forum recommended the following historical models
which has proven it's reliability....
1. Luminor - pam000, 005, 111, 112, 176, 177

2. Radiomir - pam210, 183
Title: Re: Which Panerai to buy - for 1st Panerai
Post by: Timeless on June 14, 2014, 01:47:54 PM
Try hang around at Time Square, there're few watch shops carrying PAM.