Malaysia Watch Forum
Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: Friedrice on March 08, 2015, 10:23:50 PM
-
I recently encountered two really stuck up watch salesperson in a span of two weeks.
Encounter 1 : I went into this really well known shop selling rolexes and Tudors in town. As I walked in, I asked the salesperson to see the Tudor BB in Red. He went and took it out for me. So, I took off my speedy pro (sapphire sandwich) and tried on the Black Bay. As I was sizing up the watch, the sales person took my speedy into his hand and examine it!
After finding out that I was wearing a genuine watch, he quickly covers his tracks by saying that I made an excellent choice in owning a speedy pro as that is the ONLY Omega watch worth collecting. Which kinda made me hot under my collar as most of you know, I am an avid Omega collector. So, two wrongs doesn't make a right. First, he looked down on me, and thought that I was wearing a replica Speedy Pro. Then, he dissed my favorite brand.
Without saying much, I left without buying the Tudor Black Bay. And to think I was so close in pulling the trigger on it.
Second experience happened today. Went into a very well known store that sells pretty high end stuff like JLC, Omega and UN. Went in with my Longines Legend Diver Date.
Made a beeline straight for the JLC section as I was interested in getting a dress watch and my short list includes a JLC Grande Taille. The sales person walks up to me, looking extremely bored (probably thinking that I am some riff-raft from Jalan Chow Kit). I asked him about the JLC Grande Taille. And he went huh? (Note: I pronounce Jaeger as Jae-jae, which is the correct way according to a JLC watch maker whom I had the pleasure to meet a few years ago).
I repeated a few times and he still looked blur with a smirk on his face. So, I went Chinaman on him and ask him whether if he have Jäger LaCouter Grand Tail-lee. And he went oh, ya we have that. And he didn't even bother to bring it out to show me. Just pointed into the display. So, keepin my cool, I said thank you and left.
The moral of the story: a young looking guy in shorts and t-shirt could probably afford to pay cash for watches than some conman in a three piece suit. So, don't judge a book by its cover. As for me, I am going back to my regular AD, whom will serve me drinks and wine when they see me approaching their outlet.
They shouldn't discriminate a person because of his age and the way he dress. The reason why I like to dress simple is that I don't want to get robbed. Decking out in expensive stuff for a walk in town is just asking to be mugged, especially when you have 10k+ in cash as you are planning to buy a new watch...
I wanted to get the Tudor Black Bay at first but in the end I went with a Longines Legend Diver as I was presented with a deal that I couldn't refuse..
Please note that this is not a name and shame post as I didn't list out the outlets nor the mall that they were in. But if they are reading this, then they will know who I am referring to.
-
most sales people presume that a person is not capable of upgrading...
you gotta wear something of similar or higher value than the watch that you are interesting in, in order to get their service...
well... good luck to them ::)
-
most sales people presume that a person is not capable of upgrading...
you gotta wear something of similar or higher value than the watch that you are interesting in, in order to get their service...
well... good luck to them ::)
What got me worked up a lot is the first incident. The sales person thought that I was wearing a replica from Petaling Street. And in that incident, I was enquiring about the Tudor BB and wearing a Speedy Pro to see a Tudor BB is reasonable enough imho. I had 10k+ in my bag at that time too as I was ready to buy.
The second incident, got me a bit angry but after sleeping it over today, I kinda realise that maybe I shouldn't have worn LLD to see a JLC. Should have brought my Datejust or AT instead... After all, the sales person probably have seen a lot of riff-rafts walking though the door only to fondle timepieces for free. I guess I was being profiled as a Jalan Alor Char Koay Teow seller with my shorts and t-shirt. :P
Anyways, I am on the lookout for a new AD as my contact in the current AD is going to join a boutique in a few months time. :(
-
most sales people presume that a person is not capable of upgrading...
you gotta wear something of similar or higher value than the watch that you are interesting in, in order to get their service...
well... good luck to them ::)
What got me worked up a lot is the first incident. The sales person thought that I was wearing a replica from Petaling Street. And in that incident, I was enquiring about the Tudor BB and wearing a Speedy Pro to see a Tudor BB is reasonable enough imho. I had 10k+ in my bag at that time too as I was ready to buy.
The second incident, got me a bit angry but after sleeping it over today, I kinda realise that maybe I shouldn't have worn LLD to see a JLC. Should have brought my Datejust or AT instead... After all, the sales person probably have seen a lot of riff-rafts walking though the door only to fondle timepieces for free. I guess I was being profiled as a Jalan Alor Char Koay Teow seller with my shorts and t-shirt. :P
Anyways, I am on the lookout for a new AD as my contact in the current AD is going to join a boutique in a few months time. :(
got to agree the first case is a real insult :Mad:
-
Hmm, I've honestly never had an issue. I'm almost always in slippers and shorts, and have never had a snobbish AD experience. Even when I tell my salesperson I cannot afford Jaeger, she will tell me to go ahead and try it on anyway.
-
I guess I was being profiled as a Jalan Alor Char Koay Teow seller with my shorts and t-shirt. :P
Don't look down on food stall owners...popular ones can even afford to buy a sub-c every month with cash :thumbsup:
-
I guess I was being profiled as a Jalan Alor Char Koay Teow seller with my shorts and t-shirt. :P
Don't look down on food stall owners...popular ones can even afford to buy a sub-c every month with cash :thumbsup:
This is what I'm thinking too. I know a Chee Cheong Fun seller in Taman OUG having revenue of more than RM1000 per day with just one humble little store inside a coffee shop. That's on par with many corporate CEO's salary.
Don't judge the book by its cover as mentioned.
-
Dear friedrice,
Earlier in my journey of collecting watches I did encounter sh*tloads of these situation. Especially with those really high end ones.
Similarly I brought this issue up in mwf, some of the sifus here provided good advice. A short recap of what has worked for me.
1) Be up front abt it when entering a boutique/AD, if they approach. Just let them know you're a browser or seriously interested. This will set the tone.
2) Be polite, they are humans too. (well if they are jackasses, then I usually just leave)
3) If they keep looking at your wrist, I'll usually take my watch off and pass it to them for a closer look. (most will be embarassed abt it that you've noticed them sizing you up and somehow their service gets better)
With that said, the service in kl has not improved and for my last three purchases, it was done out of town.
-
Dear friedrice,
Earlier in my journey of collecting watches I did encounter sh*tloads of these situation. Especially with those really high end ones.
Similarly I brought this issue up in mwf, some of the sifus here provided good advice. A short recap of what has worked for me.
1) Be up front abt it when entering a boutique/AD, if they approach. Just let them know you're a browser or seriously interested. This will set the tone.
2) Be polite, they are humans too. (well if they are jackasses, then I usually just leave)
3) If they keep looking at your wrist, I'll usually take my watch off and pass it to them for a closer look. (most will be embarassed abt it that you've noticed them sizing you up and somehow their service gets better)
With that said, the service in kl has not improved and for my last three purchases, it was done out of town.
the 3rd one is a very good idea :thumbsup:
-
Dear friedrice,
Earlier in my journey of collecting watches I did encounter sh*tloads of these situation. Especially with those really high end ones.
Similarly I brought this issue up in mwf, some of the sifus here provided good advice. A short recap of what has worked for me.
1) Be up front abt it when entering a boutique/AD, if they approach. Just let them know you're a browser or seriously interested. This will set the tone.
2) Be polite, they are humans too. (well if they are jackasses, then I usually just leave)
3) If they keep looking at your wrist, I'll usually take my watch off and pass it to them for a closer look. (most will be embarassed abt it that you've noticed them sizing you up and somehow their service gets better)
With that said, the service in kl has not improved and for my last three purchases, it was done out of town.
@kenji1903 - thank you so much for advice. I always try to abide by rule 2) but as humans, sometimes you get a vibe so hostile that you want to leave immediately without first thanking the sales person for his/her time.
But rule 1 and 3 are something new to me. I will remember to use them when I browse for watches on my shortlist.
-
I think in the first incident, the salesperson just wants to take a look at what you are wearing. I get that a lot. I do not think there is anything condescending about what he did unless there are other cues which led you to believe so. As for his statement, that is just his personal opinion. I have had salesperson looking at my watches, think I should buy the brand they are selling ( in my case is the Hublot he was selling instead of the Patek I am wearing) and the thing is most of the time they are not trained to recognise a watch at first glance hence the need to have a closer look.
The second incident is where the real insult is. What the salesman did there is quite condescending and rude.
-
It's ok... My experience worse than yours because I'm a young man that born on 90s. They should think that I couldn't afford any watch in their shop. :-\ Most of the time, the sales personal won't even bother to welcome me nor walk down to me. And they must think that the Speedy on my hand and my cloth also from Petaling Street. My cases happen in many AD in KL. Luxury leather goods shop served me better than these AD.
-
I guess I was being profiled as a Jalan Alor Char Koay Teow seller with my shorts and t-shirt. :P
Don't look down on food stall owners...popular ones can even afford to buy a sub-c every month with cash :thumbsup:
This is what I'm thinking too. I know a Chee Cheong Fun seller in Taman OUG having revenue of more than RM1000 per day with just one humble little store inside a coffee shop. That's on par with many corporate CEO's salary.
Don't judge the book by its cover as mentioned.
My apologies for the stereotype. I hope I didn't insult any food traders with my post. I don't mean to say that hawkers are poor and cannot afford nice things but am just trying to illustrate a point on why the sales staff were so snobbish towards me (being underdressed and thus, being seen as unworthy to step into a high end watch shop). Sorry if I made anyone angry.
On a side note, this reminds me of a PP boutique in KL. I once got very friendly with a staff there. They told me straight up that their policy is to weed out the unworthy. So, to make it more intimidating, they shut the door, place a guard at the entrance and put on display their most complicated and expensive timepieces (without the price tags being visible). The saying goes that if you really need to ask, you can't afford it. :o
But the staff was nice enough to let me fondle a Patek Annual Calendar watch. I dunno the model number as they are too high end for me to collect. It has chronograph function and in white gold with white gold bracelet. It was beautiful but it costs more than rm100k!
So, I guess, the higher end you go, the more they will scrutinise you on what you're wearing. On the other hand, dressing up to buy a watch is pretty silly. Especially when paying with cash (to get a better discount). I can only imagine a rich banker walking to Patek Philippe Boutique wearing a bespoke suit and pushing an oversize Rimowa/Pelican Luggage bag filled with 180k in cold hard cash. I bet all the criminals in the vicinity would zero in on this poor dude.
-
When I was a bit chubby, I got better treatment at boutiques. Perhaps it's the way I walked in with that tummy(even with shorts).
Now that I lost a bit, looks fitter, they don't bother with me anymore (perhaps I look much younger now)... but my wife insist I keep my current weight. Maybe its her strategy to keep me from buying more watches... :-\
-
I think in the first incident, the salesperson just wants to take a look at what you are wearing. I get that a lot. I do not think there is anything condescending about what he did unless there are other cues which led you to believe so. As for his statement, that is just his personal opinion. I have had salesperson looking at my watches, think I should buy the brand they are selling ( in my case is the Hublot he was selling instead of the Patek I am wearing) and the thing is most of the time they are not trained to recognise a watch at first glance hence the need to have a closer look.
The second incident is where the real insult is. What the salesman did there is quite condescending and rude.
Probably he was rude because I wanted to look at JLC wearing a Longines. Kinda like a guy wearing an in production Swatch Quartz wanting to look at a Rolex. :Startled:
It was no big deal after I slept over it. Was kinda angry last night but the anger has subsided. But the quest for a new AD and watch continues. :Praying:
-
i always believe its in how u carry urself, regardless of what u wear...and that first impression will always rub off on the person u are meeting...be it from a salesman or even going for a job interview...from the way u walk, stand, sit etc.
-
It's ok... My experience worse than yours because I'm a young man that born on 90s. They should think that I couldn't afford any watch in their shop. :-\ Most of the time, the sales personal won't even bother to welcome me nor walk down to me. And they must think that the Speedy on my hand and my cloth also from Petaling Street. My cases happen in many AD in KL. Luxury leather goods shop served me better than these AD.
Same as me, I am born on 90s with baby face look like Form 5.. Those AD wont even look at me until I said I want this watch. The rado I bought need to show them the thick 14k cash in my bag then only they start to serve with "smiling" face. :Scolding:
-
i personally have many encounters as such.
My personal 2 cents, never be quick to judge a customer. some people who dress like ahpeks have stacks of cash ready to use. always treat every customer with respect irregardless of how they dress/ carry themselves.
you'll never know how willing a customer is until they whip out that stack of cash/ american express black card.
-
i always believe its in how u carry urself, regardless of what u wear...and that first impression will always rub off on the person u are meeting...be it from a salesman or even going for a job interview...from the way u walk, stand, sit etc.
I think as such too.
-
i personally have many encounters as such.
My personal 2 cents, never be quick to judge a customer. some people who dress like ahpeks have stacks of cash ready to use. always treat every customer with respect irregardless of how they dress/ carry themselves.
you'll never know how willing a customer is until they whip out that stack of cash/ american express black card.
i have one...it has become black after swiping too much and the gold color came out :Laughing_on_floor:
-
These are the many ugly faces of our local ADs. You are only well-served if they know you. As for me it seems I don't get good initial impression or treatment when the salesman who doesn't know me. I am not sure why but I have to say I received better treatment from salesgirl. ;D Yep, I usually only wear shorts/t-shirt with sandal to browse ADs/boutiques. The best, I wear jeans with t-shirts. I feel, you need to build up some rapport with the salesperson from the very 1st eye contact. Let them know you are 'something' and knowledgeable about watches etc. Then the whole process with be much smoother.
I recently saw a very tanned guy with t-shirt/shorts and slipper browsing for Rolexes in a boutique. Well, this is nothing wrong. All local ADs have to learn to treat each and everyone of us well. We are customers, we are buyers. So, please change your mindset.
-
Sometimes, an AD may be genuinely interested in the watch a customer is wearing. In your case, it is a classic speedy. Unless, of coz, if the AD was new or totally ignorant about speedy, then the close examinaiton is justifiable. If nto, what he did was insultive.
Bad mouthing the brand a custcomer is wearing is really a wrong strategy for the AD. So, serve him right for not getting the sale from you.
Generally, our ADs are quite ignorant about the products they are selling. Guess the industry has high staff turnover too. It is not a surprise for ADs not being able to pronounce certain brandnames correctly. If fact, lot of westerners have the same problem too. Heard that was the reason the name "Rolex" was chosen for easy pronouciation reason. But not showing you the watch after knowing the watch you were refering to is a real insult to me.
-
Well I have bought many watches from different ADs in the klang valley, and really I have not seen such a rude and disdainful salesman (branch manager) as the one from AWG one utama.
When I walked in, he was not around and I took quite a liking to an Omega model. So i enquired for the best price from the salesgirl (who is completely ignorant - she thought the planet ocean was called seamaster professional.) Nevertheless, she called the manager on her hp and asked him to get into the shop as a prospective customer is interested.
Once he came in, he looked like one of those young hipsters with those hipster haircuts. Fine, I'm not one to judge a person by his age or haircut. He looked at me, (and by looking, it seems he does not think you will/can afford buy), and took out his calculator. After pressing forawhile, he said No, we cannot do that price.
I said Ok, so whats your best possible discount? He said xxx amount and did not even bother to take the watch out. I requested him to take out the watch so that I can see. He took it out, placed it on the table on said "Buy lah. Price I give you cheap already"
I was already pissed off and this added insult to injury. I then told him, nevermind thank you, and handed him back the watch.
He took the watch back and guess what he did? He examined the watch to see whether I had left any marks on the watch by trying it on, and then SHOOK HIS HEAD.
I have never dealt with such an abhorrent salesman, not to say branch manager. This kind of salesman is the worst kind possible.
-
Speaking of which, I once had on my Sistem51 and was man-handling some Zeniths. Salesguy was staring at my wrist too. Turns out, almost every other salesperson in the store bought one as well; we all had a good, lenghty conversation, and they Whatsapp me when they are on sale, tell me where to buy tools, etc.
While there are certainly the few "bad apples" who gauge you from top to bottom, there clearly are many who also know to read big spending ahpeks, etc. And @Everdying is spot on -- how you carry yourself is also important.
-
Speaking of which, I once had on my Sistem51 and was man-handling some Zeniths. Salesguy was staring at my wrist too. Turns out, almost every other salesperson in the store bought one as well; we all had a good, lenghty conversation, and they Whatsapp me when they are on sale, tell me where to buy tools, etc.
While there are certainly the few "bad apples" who gauge you from top to bottom, there clearly are many who also know to read big spending ahpeks, etc. And @Everdying is spot on -- how you carry yourself is also important.
I agree that how one carries himself is important in business situations and interviews, but that does not give the salesperson a right to judge a person from the way he/she carries herself. You are a customer going there to spend money, and not earn their money.
-
I agree that how one carries himself is important in business situations and interviews, but that does not give the salesperson a right to judge a person from the way he/she carries herself. You are a customer going there to spend money, and not earn their money.
also doesnt give customer the right to do as they please thinking their money is king.
a salesperson may work on commission, but that doesnt give a potential customer the right to treat them like beggars.
-
I agree that how one carries himself is important in business situations and interviews, but that does not give the salesperson a right to judge a person from the way he/she carries herself. You are a customer going there to spend money, and not earn their money.
also doesnt give customer the right to do as they please thinking their money is king.
a salesperson may work on commission, but that doesnt give a potential customer the right to treat them like beggars.
Who said treating salesperson like beggars? Mate you are overreacting here. I'm guessing you are not familiar with the term "customers come first?" or "customer service (especially in luxury goods)?" =)
In that case, I suggest you take a lesson in retailing.
-
When I walked in, he was not around and I took quite a liking to an Omega model. So i enquired for the best price from the salesgirl (who is completely ignorant - she thought the planet ocean was called seamaster professional.) Nevertheless, she called the manager on her hp and asked him to get into the shop as a prospective customer is interested.
a planet ocean IS a seamaster professional.
-
Jae-jae :thumbsup:
Yup. Dont ever look down on ppl.
-
When I walked in, he was not around and I took quite a liking to an Omega model. So i enquired for the best price from the salesgirl (who is completely ignorant - she thought the planet ocean was called seamaster professional.) Nevertheless, she called the manager on her hp and asked him to get into the shop as a prospective customer is interested.
a planet ocean IS a seamaster professional.
Well, the naming of the Seamaster range is always a big confusion, as the model name doesn't show on the dial of the watch but only at the case back, and its a norm for everyone to look at the dial when they first encounter the watch, and they will read it as Seamaster or Seamaster Professional (normally divers design will carry the "Professional" wording, including both Planet Ocean and Diver 300m models, while non-diver model like Aquaterra will carry only Seamaster, but having said that, there are exceptionals, let's not drill too deep into it.)
Seamaster range is basically composed of 3 main models i.e. Planet Ocean, Aquaterra and Diver 300m, of course there are some rare minorities like the Bull head, Ploprof.. They are all quite distinctive in the design for a different requirement and market.
So lets use the correct model names in the future! :Cheers:
-
Nice and informative thread.
Personally I have also met such salesperson too, and i was just looking at Seiko and Orient. :laugh:
My dream is to one day own a watch shop, and I will make sure that my sales people are knowledgeable, watch buffs, polite and helpful. :thumbsup:
-
i personally have many encounters as such.
My personal 2 cents, never be quick to judge a customer. some people who dress like ahpeks have stacks of cash ready to use. always treat every customer with respect irregardless of how they dress/ carry themselves.
you'll never know how willing a customer is until they whip out that stack of cash/ american express black card.
Sorry for my ignorance, what is the criteria to own an "American Express Black Card"? Never seen any ordinary American Express been used in daily transaction, not to mention the Black Card. How's that compare to MasterCard or Visa?
-
When I walked in, he was not around and I took quite a liking to an Omega model. So i enquired for the best price from the salesgirl (who is completely ignorant - she thought the planet ocean was called seamaster professional.) Nevertheless, she called the manager on her hp and asked him to get into the shop as a prospective customer is interested.
a planet ocean IS a seamaster professional.
Well, the naming of the Seamaster range is always a big confusion, as the model name doesn't show on the dial of the watch but only at the case back, and its a norm for everyone to look at the dial when they first encounter the watch, and they will read it as Seamaster or Seamaster Professional (normally divers design will carry the "Professional" wording, including both Planet Ocean and Diver 300m models, while non-diver model like Aquaterra will carry only Seamaster, but having said that, there are exceptionals, let's not drill too deep into it.)
Seamaster range is basically composed of 3 main models i.e. Planet Ocean, Aquaterra and Diver 300m, of course there are some rare minorities like the Bull head, Ploprof.. They are all quite distinctive in the design for a different requirement and market.
So lets use the correct model names in the future! :Cheers:
My point exactly. Thanks for pointing that out. =)
-
I went to Bell & Ross boutique laser week. The lady boutique manager Danker greeted me and I told her straight that I wasn't buying anything and I was only browsing. She was extremely polite and friendly, and showed me some very interesting B & R watches.
I was really impressed by her attitude and her customer service. She even gave me a very well printed catalogue when I left. How I wish we have more people like her around in service industry.
-
i personally have many encounters as such.
My personal 2 cents, never be quick to judge a customer. some people who dress like ahpeks have stacks of cash ready to use. always treat every customer with respect irregardless of how they dress/ carry themselves.
you'll never know how willing a customer is until they whip out that stack of cash/ american express black card.
Sorry for my ignorance, what is the criteria to own an "American Express Black Card"? Never seen any ordinary American Express been used in daily transaction, not to mention the Black Card. How's that compare to MasterCard or Visa?
Master or Visa = Toyota, Honda, Nissan *they are everywhere
Amex Black Card = Zonda, Koenigsegg *rare species
-
Dear friedrice,
Earlier in my journey of collecting watches I did encounter sh*tloads of these situation. Especially with those really high end ones.
Similarly I brought this issue up in mwf, some of the sifus here provided good advice. A short recap of what has worked for me.
1) Be up front abt it when entering a boutique/AD, if they approach. Just let them know you're a browser or seriously interested. This will set the tone.
2) Be polite, they are humans too. (well if they are jackasses, then I usually just leave)
3) If they keep looking at your wrist, I'll usually take my watch off and pass it to them for a closer look. (most will be embarassed abt it that you've noticed them sizing you up and somehow their service gets better)
With that said, the service in kl has not improved and for my last three purchases, it was done out of town.
Totally agree the 3rd point, Im gonna try it on my next visitation at ADs
-
Thank you CKL1213. What is the criteria to own these "Zonda, Koenigsegg *rare species"???
-
Thank you CKL1213. What is the criteria to own these "Zonda, Koenigsegg *rare species"???
I think it would be the same criteria how one owns Zonda and Koenisegg..... :o
-
A funny experience:
Was with my superior who was browsing thought LUMINOX at a shop in SG. he managed to narrow down his options to 2 models. Model A=1000sgd ; Model B=1500sgd.
The salesperson, who probably was a fresh school-leaver had this tried this 'sales technique':
SALESMAN : I THINK U SHUD TAKE A la..
SUPERIOR : WHY?
SALESMAN : LOOKS NICE ALSO ma..AND SUMMORE A IS HALF MONTH SALARY ONLY, B ALMOST A MONTH SALARY wo..
to be fair my superior was pretty cool with this, but I was in quite a fit of laughter.
well, my boss' salary is in excess of rm20k.
-
i personally have many encounters as such.
My personal 2 cents, never be quick to judge a customer. some people who dress like ahpeks have stacks of cash ready to use. always treat every customer with respect irregardless of how they dress/ carry themselves.
you'll never know how willing a customer is until they whip out that stack of cash/ american express black card.
Sorry for my ignorance, what is the criteria to own an "American Express Black Card"? Never seen any ordinary American Express been used in daily transaction, not to mention the Black Card. How's that compare to MasterCard or Visa?
Master or Visa = Toyota, Honda, Nissan *they are everywhere
Amex Black Card = Zonda, Koenigsegg *rare species
Black card is so yesterday. Every wealthy person that I know off now pays only in cash..
Saw a friend of mine (who operates an online casino) bought a house in bandar Utama for 700k in cash! Seller was desperate because of gambling debts. Kinda ironic, isn't it?
With the GST imposed even on bank loans and credit card interests, I have now officially paid everything off and have cancelled all my cards. Better do so quick before next month..
And oh, redeem all your points before you cancel a card.
-
A funny experience:
Was with my superior who was browsing thought LUMINOX at a shop in SG. he managed to narrow down his options to 2 models. Model A=1000sgd ; Model B=1500sgd.
The salesperson, who probably was a fresh school-leaver had this tried this 'sales technique':
SALESMAN : I THINK U SHUD TAKE A la..
SUPERIOR : WHY?
SALESMAN : LOOKS NICE ALSO ma..AND SUMMORE A IS HALF MONTH SALARY ONLY, B ALMOST A MONTH SALARY wo..
to be fair my superior was pretty cool with this, but I was in quite a fit of laughter.
well, my boss' salary is in excess of rm20k.
If I want a beater watch, a Tissot is a better option than Luminox.
Also, man, those Singapore retail staff sure are overpaid. SGD1000 is like RM2670 and that's half month's pay? Once they add commission on it, it would be like RM8k easily! I wonder how much would they pay a chartered accountant there....
-
Honestly I think the Luminox will be tougher than a Tissot in terms of taking a beating. But I prefer Tissot too based on looks.
-
A funny experience:
Was with my superior who was browsing thought LUMINOX at a shop in SG. he managed to narrow down his options to 2 models. Model A=1000sgd ; Model B=1500sgd.
The salesperson, who probably was a fresh school-leaver had this tried this 'sales technique':
SALESMAN : I THINK U SHUD TAKE A la..
SUPERIOR : WHY?
SALESMAN : LOOKS NICE ALSO ma..AND SUMMORE A IS HALF MONTH SALARY ONLY, B ALMOST A MONTH SALARY wo..
to be fair my superior was pretty cool with this, but I was in quite a fit of laughter.
well, my boss' salary is in excess of rm20k.
If I want a beater watch, a Tissot is a better option than Luminox.
Also, man, those Singapore retail staff sure are overpaid. SGD1000 is like RM2670 and that's half month's pay? Once they add commission on it, it would be like RM8k easily! I wonder how much would they pay a chartered accountant there....
Compare apple to apple. Having paid SGD2000 there you can barely survive.
-
From my experience, no matter which AD you go, observe from the moment you walk in, they will try to suss out how much potential you are in them making a sale off you and I believe the best method they employ is to see what watch you are wearing as like they say, a watch tells more than time. It tells of a person's taste, standing, etc... Of course, this is often superficial and inaccurate way of assessing but working with nothing (unless they already know you), this is as I suspect usually how they roll.
Second, usually the junior staffs are more friendly though their product knowledge may not be up to par compared to the 'old birds' which sometimes don't even acknowledge your presence. >:(
-
nowdays i couldn't even bother to enter AD unless i actually wanna buy stuff. If wanna see see play watches better ask someone you know who owned those watch to let you handle.
Discount wise better off wait for those "sales" where they put the watches like in pasar malam enviroment. Some may think it is not the enviroment they want when buying luxury watches but who cares. As long i got myself good deal so why not ;)
Oh yeah, better off make your own research before doing your purchase cos some sales guy will try to con you with random facts. I last time get into pointless arguement with salesman when telling him tag heuer 1887 is seiko movement. He was like WTF/Dafuq/Nowai man telling me seiko doesnt do this kind of thing. i even showed him my seiko magic lever to him that the tag 1887 have it as well. Silly but true. :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor: In the end i back off cos this nonsense is not going to bring me anywhere.
-
Why get irritated by some one mistake or ignorance? Just walk off if poor service Dnt let it ruin your day
-
i personally have many encounters as such.
My personal 2 cents, never be quick to judge a customer. some people who dress like ahpeks have stacks of cash ready to use. always treat every customer with respect irregardless of how they dress/ carry themselves.
you'll never know how willing a customer is until they whip out that stack of cash/ american express black card.
Sorry for my ignorance, what is the criteria to own an "American Express Black Card"? Never seen any ordinary American Express been used in daily transaction, not to mention the Black Card. How's that compare to MasterCard or Visa?
Master or Visa = Toyota, Honda, Nissan *they are everywhere
Amex Black Card = Zonda, Koenigsegg *rare species
Black card is so yesterday. Every wealthy person that I know off now pays only in cash..
Saw a friend of mine (who operates an online casino) bought a house in bandar Utama for 700k in cash! Seller was desperate because of gambling debts. Kinda ironic, isn't it?
With the GST imposed even on bank loans and credit card interests, I have now officially paid everything off and have cancelled all my cards. Better do so quick before next month..
And oh, redeem all your points before you cancel a card.
Yup. Now even service charge for MEPS, IBG, or Bank Fees for transactions over RM 100 also must kena GST la.
The funny thing is, IBG fees 10 sen, how to charge 6% gst?? Are they gonna charge 0.006 sen?? :Laughing_on_floor:
-
Totally agree with this statement...I have come to a point where I don't want to let the action of others determine my mood anymore. I will just smile, be the one with the better upbringing and walk off after saying thank you. What a person is really worth is no longer calculated in dollars and cents. You will know what I mean when you see classless people shop for luxury goods.
Patrick
Why get irritated by some one mistake or ignorance? Just walk off if poor service Dnt let it ruin your day
-
Totally agree with this statement...I have come to a point where I don't want to let the action of others determine my mood anymore. I will just smile, be the one with the better upbringing and walk off after saying thank you. What a person is really worth is no longer calculated in dollars and cents. You will know what I mean when you see classless people shop for luxury goods.
Patrick
Why get irritated by some one mistake or ignorance? Just walk off if poor service Dnt let it ruin your day
Well said bro! Can't agree more. :Cheers:
-
Why get irritated by some one mistake or ignorance? Just walk off if poor service Dnt let it ruin your day
I wonder as well. Since the members here appear to know / claim to be knowlegable enough about the watches they hope to buy (and are able to properly pronounce Jaeger LeCoultre- like Jerome Lambert :laugh: :laugh:) why should the saleperson's apparent ignorance trouble you? It surely does not reduce the value of the watch you are hoping to buy, does it? ???
-
I know what I want to buy and what am I buying, I don't need someone else tell me what it is and how it works.
The sales person purpose is to bring the watch to me and let me examine it and I negotiate the price with his manager.
-
Why get irritated by some one mistake or ignorance? Just walk off if poor service Dnt let it ruin your day
I wonder as well. Since the members here appear to know / claim to be knowlegable enough about the watches they hope to buy (and are able to properly pronounce Jaeger LeCoultre- like Jerome Lambert :laugh: :laugh:) why should the saleperson's apparent ignorance trouble you? It surely does not reduce the value of the watch you are hoping to buy, does it? ???
I think it's the common mindset when one has a potential of committing to a purchase, there's an expectation of the service being rendered, even before any transaction are being done. Flattery is by default, a common expectation from the potential customer.
A more experienced or more dedicated buyer would likely ignore certain level of quality of service, but would instead focus more on acquiring the right product at the right price. Typically, they would go in with very specific requirements. For them staff courtesness would be deemed trivial and less likely to affect their decision making.
-
Why get irritated by some one mistake or ignorance? Just walk off if poor service Dnt let it ruin your day
I wonder as well. Since the members here appear to know / claim to be knowlegable enough about the watches they hope to buy (and are able to properly pronounce Jaeger LeCoultre- like Jerome Lambert :laugh: :laugh:) why should the saleperson's apparent ignorance trouble you? It surely does not reduce the value of the watch you are hoping to buy, does it? ???
I think it's the common mindset when one has a potential of committing to a purchase, there's an expectation of the service being rendered, even before any transaction are being done. Flattery is by default, a common expectation from the potential customer.
A more experienced or more dedicated buyer would likely ignore certain level of quality of service, but would instead focus more on acquiring the right product at the right price. Typically, they would go in with very specific requirements. For them staff courtesness would be deemed trivial and less likely to affect their decision making.
When we buy a watch, especially those that are so expensive, its a common human instinct to expect good service and knowledgable staff, as it is a huge investment for some of us.
Therefore, if the sales person is rude or totally ignorant, it gives something of a bad taste in your mouth. Hence, to an extent, it does affect whether we buy the watch or not.
-
Going to an AD is like fishing......either you go to the sea or the market; the end result we want is a fish. By going to the sea, the adventure and the catching of the fish is a memory that one cherish......go to the market, get a fish...not something that we cherish.
Hence the need for representatives in ADs be equipped to handle customers. We want the memories!!
For me, as I am in the service industry, if the service is not up to expectation, i would politely excuse myself and give my custom to another establishment.
The best way to educate is to hit them where it hurts - financially.
-
One thing I have learned after hanging out at watch shops and eavesdropping on customer conversations.
You would not believe the number of jokers that come into the shop showing that they are "in the know"
I believe carrying cash and preparing for a purchase on the day is like a spotcheck or an ego trip, depending on your point of view.
Normally a purchase is done before the actual day itself.
Walking in, have a friendly conversation with the SA... inquiring about prices, discounts, availability etc.
Ask for a namecard, keep in mind best prices and so on.
Visit a few ADs... plenty other ADs carrying the same brands.
Carrying loads of cash on an AD visit supposedly "ready" to buy but being put off my SA's apparent snobbishness or attitude?
Fine, walk away, buy from somewhere else.
Or is this just an ego trip?
Like Meor said, shopping for luxury goods is a sum of all it's parts... The whole experience matters.
Price difference of a couple of hundred is worth paying for if the experience is pleasant enough.
Now, did you eventually bought the Black Bay?
And if you did, are you satisfied with the shop that you bought it from?
-
Regarding of the pronunciation of Jaeger Le Coultre
The "Jaeger" part is pronounced
"Zhay-zhur" if you read it as a French word.
"Yay-gur" if you read it as a German word.
In other words, both is correct.
And both is acceptable.
What is not acceptable is visiting a bar in Munich asking for a "zhay-zhur bomber"
-
to make it simple, 3 basic customers behavior or expectation towards sales rep or service on watches.
Type 1 - They know what they want, what the product is capable of, made of, how to pronounce, where it's made, what material is used & etc. They just want to look, touch, feel and examine the real thing in flesh before making the decision to purchase and the main decision only involved One factor - price. If price is right, close deal. Very straight forward customer, won't bother to ask much questions as this type of customers already done their homework.
Type 2 - Same as the above, know everything BUT maybe they seems to know everything, they want to test the sales rep, ask questions like, what it is made of, what material, where? how? when? why? how to pronounce this brand? They seems to want to proof and show that they have better product knowledge than the sales rep and yet they expect the sales rep should able to answer all the questions. Please take note, a normal AD will carry up to hundred different model and this type of customers only know few of his favorite model and what if the sales rep ask him back the same questions on other models? can they answer back like what they expect from a sales rep? Buying decision is not purely based on Price but pop quiz to the sales rep.
Type 3 - They don't know anything, they have cash, they have buying power, they really will ask a lot of stupid question like "you sure this one not made in China arr?" what material arr? Sales rep said 904L, they will answer "oh that one..." in fact they have no idea what it is but it sounds serious and legit to them. They expect coffee, tea, newspaper, wifi password and treat them like royal family and closing a deal is not a problem. This type of customers is best to promote slow moving model to help company clear old stocks as they don't what they are buying.
Type 2 + a little bit Type 3 - The most dangerous customers, they know everything, they will find you and they will test you, if sales you are looking for, then they have a set of particular skills that will make you suffer, they will ask you pronounce correctly and they will expect royal treatment, and yet they might not want to buy from you. Good Luck.
-
When we buy a watch, especially those that are so expensive, its a common human instinct to expect good service and knowledgable staff, as it is a huge investment for some of us.
Therefore, if the sales person is rude or totally ignorant, it gives something of a bad taste in your mouth. Hence, to an extent, it does affect whether we buy the watch or not.
I can partially agree to your statement. Allow me to paint this scenario.
As mentioned by CKL1213, if one is serious enough to commit to an expensive watch that would sum up to a large investment, he/she would have done enough homework, (customer Type 1). He would have called ahead in-advance to confirm the availability of the model wanted, acquire names and contact details and finally make an appointment to come to the boutique and do the inspection and finally seal the deal.
When this customer arrives in the boutique at an agreed time, HE LEAVES NO ROOM for any rude behavior, as he would ask for the name of the person whom he has spoken to and request to see the merchandise immediately. The appropriate conduct would come out naturally from the salesperson as at this point, as he would realize that this is a serious buyer. Strictly business.
After that, casual browsing and small talks may follow on.
Lately, I have been conducting all my purchases this way. I have no expectation on how they treat me and hence no disappointment. I just want to purchase the watch I like with the beast deal that I can find.
Regardless of whether I seal the deal or not, majority of the salespersons I came across are nice to begin with. Some are more enthusiastic than others and some are proud to educate their customer with the knowledge they have.
Carrying loads of cash on an AD visit supposedly "ready" to buy but being put off my SA's apparent snobbishness or attitude?
Fine, walk away, buy from somewhere else.
Or is this just an ego trip?
I too have problem trying to comprehend this big cash business, especially when buying from and AD/boutique. I can understand the need to avoid service charge and tax from a payment/credit card, it is still a small sum to pay for convenience and better security for a large transaction.
-
Anyone with unhappy experience with grey dealers to share? 8)
-
Personally, whenever I encounter bad service, i would just politely ask to change either another sales person or speak to the manager. My opinion, if you allow certain individual to cheese you off from buying a watch, then your intention might not be 100% for to buy the watch. Maybe 50% watch & 50% ego booster?(but whats wrong? isn't that how watchmakers are able to sell those expensive "f*ck off" timepieces?) But then again, ultimate loser of bad customer service is the the shop. Understandable, when you've bought a Benz, you would expect Benz's excellent customer service and after sales (http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013/07/12/benz-windscreen-smash-woman/ (http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013/07/12/benz-windscreen-smash-woman/)). Selling a product now a days goes beyond just having the right product at the right place but how you market the product to help your client achieve their aspirations or reflect who they are.
Some of the people working in these AD treat this as a 9-5 job while WIS wants a salesman that share their passion and understanding regarding the watch. Difference in expectation leads to disappointment. Plus you cant obtain 100% information on the web when doing purchase research. Usually an experienced sales person would able to provide some feedback (technically aspect of the watch) and assure you that that particular watch is suitable for you (or not). That why, when I find a good sales person, I always try to cultivate them by introducing friends to buy from them.
2cents
-
One thing I have learned after hanging out at watch shops and eavesdropping on customer conversations.
You would not believe the number of jokers that come into the shop showing that they are "in the know"
I believe carrying cash and preparing for a purchase on the day is like a spotcheck or an ego trip, depending on your point of view.
Normally a purchase is done before the actual day itself.
Walking in, have a friendly conversation with the SA... inquiring about prices, discounts, availability etc.
Ask for a namecard, keep in mind best prices and so on.
Visit a few ADs... plenty other ADs carrying the same brands.
Carrying loads of cash on an AD visit supposedly "ready" to buy but being put off my SA's apparent snobbishness or attitude?
Fine, walk away, buy from somewhere else.
Or is this just an ego trip?
Like Meor said, shopping for luxury goods is a sum of all it's parts... The whole experience matters.
Price difference of a couple of hundred is worth paying for if the experience is pleasant enough.
Now, did you eventually bought the Black Bay?
And if you did, are you satisfied with the shop that you bought it from?
Sorry but how is it an ego trip when the SA took my watch without my permission and proceed to check it out while I was trying on the black bay?
I put down my watch to try the watch he took out from the cabinet. And 99.9999% of the time, a sales assistant would just leave the watch there on the counter. Unless of course, the SA suspected that I was wearing a replica and he wanted to call me out on wearing a fake watch. And when he found out that I was wearing a genuine watch, he quickly covered his tracks by telling me some rubbish.
I don't find his behavior befitting of my business regardless on whether if you think it is an ego trip or not. I have, on numerous occasions, bought watches from numerous AD's without shopping around for better deals as I already have a rough idea on the discounts that can be offered.
To take a man's watch without permission or asking first and inspecting it thoroughly is an insult. It is akin to a Jaguar salesman opening the hood of a guy's Mercedes without his permission and did a check on the chassis number just because the salesperson thinks the customer cannot afford a Mercedes through legal means, let alone a Jaguar.
-
One thing I have learned after hanging out at watch shops and eavesdropping on customer conversations.
You would not believe the number of jokers that come into the shop showing that they are "in the know"
I believe carrying cash and preparing for a purchase on the day is like a spotcheck or an ego trip, depending on your point of view.
Normally a purchase is done before the actual day itself.
Walking in, have a friendly conversation with the SA... inquiring about prices, discounts, availability etc.
Ask for a namecard, keep in mind best prices and so on.
Visit a few ADs... plenty other ADs carrying the same brands.
Carrying loads of cash on an AD visit supposedly "ready" to buy but being put off my SA's apparent snobbishness or attitude?
Fine, walk away, buy from somewhere else.
Or is this just an ego trip?
Like Meor said, shopping for luxury goods is a sum of all it's parts... The whole experience matters.
Price difference of a couple of hundred is worth paying for if the experience is pleasant enough.
Now, did you eventually bought the Black Bay?
And if you did, are you satisfied with the shop that you bought it from?
Sorry but how is it an ego trip when the SA took my watch without my permission and proceed to check it out while I was trying on the black bay?
I put down my watch to try the watch he took out from the cabinet. And 99.9999% of the time, a sales assistant would just leave the watch there on the counter. Unless of course, the SA suspected that I was wearing a replica and he wanted to call me out on wearing a fake watch. And when he found out that I was wearing a genuine watch, he quickly covered his tracks by telling me some rubbish.
I don't find his behavior befitting of my business regardless on whether if you think it is an ego trip or not. I have, on numerous occasions, bought watches from numerous AD's without shopping around for better deals as I already have a rough idea on the discounts that can be offered.
To take a man's watch without permission or asking first and inspecting it thoroughly is an insult. It is akin to a Jaguar salesman opening the hood of a guy's Mercedes without his permission and did a check on the chassis number just because the salesperson thinks the customer cannot afford a Mercedes through legal means, let alone a Jaguar.
The ego trip did not start when the SA checked out your watch.
I am not too sure though.
Maybe you can be more specific.
I would not mind the SA checking out my watch when I place it on the tray to try out a new watch.
Some ppl are easily offended by stuff like these... I am not one of them though.
When you mention he found out that your watch is a genuine, what exactly did he say to cover his tracks?
Actually, what makes you suspect that the SA is thinking that you're wearing a fake?
Did he scoff at your watch or etc?
Whole thing doesn't sound so right...
-
One thing I have learned after hanging out at watch shops and eavesdropping on customer conversations.
You would not believe the number of jokers that come into the shop showing that they are "in the know"
I believe carrying cash and preparing for a purchase on the day is like a spotcheck or an ego trip, depending on your point of view.
Normally a purchase is done before the actual day itself.
Walking in, have a friendly conversation with the SA... inquiring about prices, discounts, availability etc.
Ask for a namecard, keep in mind best prices and so on.
Visit a few ADs... plenty other ADs carrying the same brands.
Carrying loads of cash on an AD visit supposedly "ready" to buy but being put off my SA's apparent snobbishness or attitude?
Fine, walk away, buy from somewhere else.
Or is this just an ego trip?
Like Meor said, shopping for luxury goods is a sum of all it's parts... The whole experience matters.
Price difference of a couple of hundred is worth paying for if the experience is pleasant enough.
Now, did you eventually bought the Black Bay?
And if you did, are you satisfied with the shop that you bought it from?
Sorry but how is it an ego trip when the SA took my watch without my permission and proceed to check it out while I was trying on the black bay?
I put down my watch to try the watch he took out from the cabinet. And 99.9999% of the time, a sales assistant would just leave the watch there on the counter. Unless of course, the SA suspected that I was wearing a replica and he wanted to call me out on wearing a fake watch. And when he found out that I was wearing a genuine watch, he quickly covered his tracks by telling me some rubbish.
I don't find his behavior befitting of my business regardless on whether if you think it is an ego trip or not. I have, on numerous occasions, bought watches from numerous AD's without shopping around for better deals as I already have a rough idea on the discounts that can be offered.
To take a man's watch without permission or asking first and inspecting it thoroughly is an insult. It is akin to a Jaguar salesman opening the hood of a guy's Mercedes without his permission and did a check on the chassis number just because the salesperson thinks the customer cannot afford a Mercedes through legal means, let alone a Jaguar.
To take a man's watch in front of him without permission is unusual and perhaps rude.
But perhaps he's a WIS? Or maybe he is not a WIS but just curious?
Yes, I think its a little rude. But to conclude that he was actually doing a fake-buster inspection? Well, much depends on what he actually said.
Also, perhaps when he commented that the speedmaster is the only Omega worth collecting, he was actually in mode of praising the wonderful moon watch and not actually criticising Omega as a whole?
-
my take on this is, like the Chinese proverb "real gold is not afraid of the test of fire". i've never worn or bought any fake or dubious luxury stuffs so i'm not afraid or feel disrespected if anyone would like to inspect them closer, provided they handle it with care...
also, i've never encountered rude sales persons in the last decade or two...perhaps i look like a gullible person who would buy anything they sell? ;D
-
Regarding of the pronunciation of Jaeger Le Coultre
The "Jaeger" part is pronounced
"Zhay-zhur" if you read it as a French word.
"Yay-gur" if you read it as a German word.
In other words, both is correct.
And both is acceptable.
What is not acceptable is visiting a bar in Munich asking for a "zhay-zhur bomber"
We are not French or German or Swiss. Let's get real.
Jaeger LeCoultre is pronounced "Jay-El-See". That's more than enough even when you are visiting Geneve or Zurich.
Likewise, Audemars Piguet is pronounced "Ae-Pea". Damn, I caught the AP bug again... :-\
Vacheron Constantin is "Vee-See". Everybody understands.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
-
Regarding of the pronunciation of Jaeger Le Coultre
The "Jaeger" part is pronounced
"Zhay-zhur" if you read it as a French word.
"Yay-gur" if you read it as a German word.
In other words, both is correct.
And both is acceptable.
What is not acceptable is visiting a bar in Munich asking for a "zhay-zhur bomber"
We are not French or German or Swiss. Let's get real.
Jaeger LeCoultre is pronounced "Jay-El-See". That's more than enough even when you are visiting Geneve or Zurich.
Likewise, Audemars Piguet is pronounced "Ae-Pea". Damn, I caught the AP bug again... :-\
Vacheron Constantin is "Vee-See". Everybody understands.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yeah man... I totally forgot about that.
"Jay-El-See" is totally acceptable, perfectly understandable.... hahahaha
-
Agree that to some it is an ego trip, purposely testing sales persons knowledge with technical questions is one of the common
ways I've encountered. Come on, give the sales person a break. U expect them to memorise specs for every single watches in the showroom?
I'd gladly let a reputable AD handle my watch if he asks permission first
Assuming he was questioning the genuinity of your watch, perhaps u were over sensitive?
-
The moral of the story: a young looking guy in shorts and t-shirt could probably afford to pay cash for watches than some conman in a three piece suit. So, don't judge a book by its cover. As for me, I am going back to my regular AD, whom will serve me drinks and wine when they see me approaching their outlet.
bro...sure or not? Serving wine?
-
The moral of the story: a young looking guy in shorts and t-shirt could probably afford to pay cash for watches than some conman in a three piece suit. So, don't judge a book by its cover. As for me, I am going back to my regular AD, whom will serve me drinks and wine when they see me approaching their outlet.
bro...sure or not? Serving wine?
That's for me to know and for you to find out. ;D
-
Hmm... interesting thread indeed.
Friedricetheman, who carries wads of cash (probably from just today's sales) to buy a watch, gets bad service from salesman after having his watch given the once over by the said salesman. And said salesman won't let him fondle a more expensive watch because salesman thinks he's a char-kway-teow seller when maybe he's actually a fried rice seller but really a chartered accountant hoping to work in Singapore.
So off he goes to his regular AD who serves him wine since they're regular customers and get treated well because they only deal in cash like his friend who operates a <cough/probably illegal/cough> online casino..
Wonder how the 700k house purchase got looked over by LHDN or maybe they also pay their 400k+ yearly taxes in cash as well....
But seriously, who brings cash to an AD unless..... And don't like credit cards? Last I remember, cheques are acceptable.
I do not see how a salesman looking at your watch is offensive unless he was handling it badly. How certain are you that he thought it was a fake unless he made such a comment? And saying that it was a collectable Omega does not sound insulting at all.
My wife says I'm a sloppy dresser. T-shirt, jeans and slippers are my favourite everywhere. A salesman at the RM boutique @Starhill offered me to try and wear a 500k watch for about half an hour (yes, it was that hard to take off) while we talked about their range of watches. A friend with me was ignored simply because of the comments he made about the price/brand etc. Telling them a Casio tells time just as well is a no-no :HammerHead:
It's not about how much cash you have, whether you REALLY want to buy a watch or if you can afford it or not. A good salesman will know how to size up a potential sale to weed out those who come in only to feel and play with the watches and those who have a genuine interest regardless if you are buying or not today.
When I walk into an AD, I don't expect fantastic service or drinks. Those come when you say the magic words "OK, I'll take this one" and only if it's expensive. You walk in, look around and see if anyone is interested to entertain you. If not, browse till your heart's content and leave.
Eventually it's how you carry yourself and your self-confidence that determines the respect you get. And do not forget to respect them as well even if you think they're only salesmen.
-
Well, I'll give the T.S my benefit of doubt regarding the wine thingy. Cause I had been offered crazier things like free trips and some pretty indecent proposals. ;D
But never took any of those freebies, more interested in the watch itself and the available discount. Well even my wifey thinks I'm nutty vesting so much on watches but not on other stuff to upgrade status, aka ego.
I guess I'm just a freaking weirdo that loves watches more then other manly pursuit like cars or super bikes.
-
So, don't judge a book by its cover. As for me, I am going back to my regular AD, whom will serve me drinks and wine when they see me approaching their outlet.
bro...sure or not? Serving wine?
It appears the TS is describing a shop selling toddy and not a shop selling Tudor. Hmmm....I wonder if it has a proper liquor license; from the TS' riddle-like answer immediately above, I suspect it has not. Probably a shop dealing with black market toddy instead of Black Bay Tudor.... ;) ;)
-
It appears the TS is describing a shop selling toddy and not a shop selling Tudor. Hmmm....I wonder if it has a proper liquor license; from the TS' riddle-like answer immediately above, I suspect it has not. Probably a shop dealing with black market toddy instead of Black Bay Tudor.... ;) ;)
:Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
-
Well, I'll give the T.S my benefit of doubt regarding the wine thingy. Cause I had been offered crazier things like free trips and some pretty indecent proposals. ;D
Could you PM me the AD you mentioned? And how indecent were the proposals? Mind sharing as that would be more interesting than the salesman bashing we are having now...
-
Hmm... interesting thread indeed.
Wow!!! It's Donald the Taikor from Kuching!!!
What happened to you all these months? Yes, we have not had such an interesting thread for a long long long long time. The electrifying dose of surrealism must have woken you from your hibernation. :laugh: :laugh: But this is a truly classic thread, in the same class as Harry Potter and LOTR.... :thumbsup:
Welcome back!!!! :Cheers:
-
Hmm... interesting thread indeed.
Wow!!! It's Donald the Taikor from Kuching!!!
What happened to you all these months? Yes, we have not had such an interesting thread for a long long long long time. The electrifying dose of surrealism must have woken you from your hibernation. :laugh: :laugh: But this is a truly classic thread, in the same class as Harry Potter and LOTR.... :thumbsup:
Welcome back!!!! :Cheers:
Who? What? Where?
OK.. back to sleep....
-
PM, check out those two AD I wrote abt.
-
Hmm... interesting thread indeed.
Wow!!! It's Donald the Taikor from Kuching!!!
What happened to you all these months? Yes, we have not had such an interesting thread for a long long long long time. The electrifying dose of surrealism must have woken you from your hibernation. :laugh: :laugh: But this is a truly classic thread, in the same class as Harry Potter and LOTR.... :thumbsup:
Welcome back!!!! :Cheers:
Who? What? Where?
OK.. back to sleep....
Kuching taikoh huh? Please do enlightened me on which family are you from?
My wife is from one of the old families in Kuching. We may know each other..
-
Clash of clans - Kuching edition
-
Clash of clans - Kuching edition
Kuching have very few old families. And all are interconnected through marriage.
I'm not doing a clan war thingy, I just want to get to know him. Since he is the Kuching taikoh, he must be well connected, hence old family.
And if he is of old family, the chances of us knowing each other is very high as Kuching's polite society is a very small but well connected community.
-
Clash of clans - Kuching edition
Kuching have very few old families. And all are interconnected through marriage.
I'm not doing a clan war thingy, I just want to get to know him. Since he is the Kuching taikoh, he must be well connected, hence old family.
And if he is of old family, the chances of us knowing each other is very high as Kuching's polite society is a very small but well connected community.
I must sound like an absolute moron to be asked a question like that... :Confused:
-
The post is getting hilarious, haven't had so much fun reading and commenting back since a previous thread whereby the fella kept talking abt getting a rolex as a show Of wealth and finally getting the djII. That fella felt genuine with his comments and straight away admits that he is on an ego Trip. I kinda liked him.
-
Kuching taikoh huh? Please do enlightened me on which family are you from?
My wife is from one of the old families in Kuching. We may know each other..
He's from the Brooke family..you know, the ones who stayed at the Astana at the Waterfront.
-
Kuching taikoh huh? Please do enlightened me on which family are you from?
My wife is from one of the old families in Kuching. We may know each other..
He's from the Brooke family..you know, the ones who stayed at the Astana at the Waterfront.
Hi Enkidu. If you must troll, please try harder. That was a pathetic attempt at trolling. -1/10
-
The post is getting hilarious, haven't had so much fun reading and commenting back since a previous thread whereby the fella kept talking abt getting a rolex as a show Of wealth and finally getting the djII. That fella felt genuine with his comments and straight away admits that he is on an ego Trip. I kinda liked him.
yes...thread is getting hilarious :Laughing_on_floor:
-
The post is getting hilarious, haven't had so much fun reading and commenting back since a previous thread whereby the fella kept talking abt getting a rolex as a show Of wealth and finally getting the djII. That fella felt genuine with his comments and straight away admits that he is on an ego Trip. I kinda liked him.
yes...thread is getting hilarious :Laughing_on_floor:
Yes. +1. This thread is getting hilarious. :Dancing_banana:
-
Yep, one of the best threads ive ever come across in this forum since joining.
Makes my day, reading the updates daily. You never know whats coming next.
Keep it up guys. :thumbsup:
-
Quite hard to keep it up as full disclosure has yet to come.
I am still left to wonder what is being said.
And right now, my guess is mr.friedrice jumped into conclusions about the SA "suspecting" his watch is a fake.
And with the current direction of the thread, we might never now.
But seems to me like the guilty one in "sizing up" and "judging a book by it's cover" is the TS himself.
The JLC story is understandable.
Guy walks in, shows his superior language skills in pronunciation, SA looks blur, and when he finally understood what mr.friedrice wants, the feeling is that the guy is just on an ego trip. Honestly though... I don't blame him.
If he would just say "Jay El See Grande Taille", problem solved.
But I guess it's not good enough. So, what is the purpose? Beats me...
So, readers and followers of this thread. What do you guys think?
-
in the first scnenario, i think mr nasigoreng wouldn't think too much IF the SA asked permission first to view the watch ;D
-
in the first scnenario, i think mr nasigorenglelaki wouldn't think too much IF the SA asked permission first to view the watch ;D
corrected... ;D
-
Quite hard to keep it up as full disclosure has yet to come.
I am still left to wonder what is being said.
And right now, my guess is mr.friedrice jumped into conclusions about the SA "suspecting" his watch is a fake.
And with the current direction of the thread, we might never now.
But seems to me like the guilty one in "sizing up" and "judging a book by it's cover" is the TS himself.
The JLC story is understandable.
Guy walks in, shows his superior language skills in pronunciation, SA looks blur, and when he finally understood what mr.friedrice wants, the feeling is that the guy is just on an ego trip. Honestly though... I don't blame him.
If he would just say "Jay El See Grande Taille", problem solved.
But I guess it's not good enough. So, what is the purpose? Beats me...
So, readers and followers of this thread. What do you guys think?
I think Jae Jae should just rebrand themselves to JLC.
-
wast thinking to say no point to talk further since we all can never know what really happen, but since the topic is hot, even Kuching Taiko is back, so why not put more fuel into the discussion ! :Laughing_on_floor:
chinese said 1 type of rice raise 100 type of human,
when come to watch shopping
got good SA and bad SA
so as
good customer and bad customer
Maybe SA in MWF can hide their real name and share more with us on bad customer
-
Well, I'll give the T.S my benefit of doubt regarding the wine thingy. Cause I had been offered crazier things like free trips and some pretty indecent proposals. ;D
But never took any of those freebies, more interested in the watch itself and the available discount. Well even my wifey thinks I'm nutty vesting so much on watches but not on other stuff to upgrade status, aka ego.
I guess I'm just a freaking weirdo that loves watches more then other manly pursuit like cars or super bikes.
Somehow I believe you simply because I have met you in person and I know what kind of dough you drop on watches.
Enkidu and dpkong too, he drop serious moolah on watches too.
And dpkong, yes... the Kuching Taikoh... his usual AD can allow him to take the watch 1st and pay later... damn I did not take up on that offer... still kicking my nuts.
And it would be a crime if your usual AD does not bend over for you guys.
Now look at the list... if you know what I mean... ::)
-
chinese said 1 type of rice raise 100 type of human,
But if fried rice how?
-
buy from mwf members, merchants or shop no need to pening plus you gain new yum cha kaki.
i think the SA just trying to break the ice and make small talk. easier to sell.
for me, i would love it when people think i am wearing a fake watch and carrying an empty wallet.
-
Quite hard to keep it up as full disclosure has yet to come.
I am still left to wonder what is being said.
And right now, my guess is mr.friedrice jumped into conclusions about the SA "suspecting" his watch is a fake.
And with the current direction of the thread, we might never now.
But seems to me like the guilty one in "sizing up" and "judging a book by it's cover" is the TS himself.
The JLC story is understandable.
Guy walks in, shows his superior language skills in pronunciation, SA looks blur, and when he finally understood what mr.friedrice wants, the feeling is that the guy is just on an ego trip. Honestly though... I don't blame him.
If he would just say "Jay El See Grande Taille", problem solved.
But I guess it's not good enough. So, what is the purpose? Beats me...
So, readers and followers of this thread. What do you guys think?
I think that sums it up pretty nicely.
Maybe the title should change to "Snobbish watch salesperson AND (potential) customers"
-
chinese said 1 type of rice raise 100 type of human,
But if fried rice how?
thats depend on its japanese garlic fried rice, chinese yang zhou fried rice or taiwanese egg fried rice... :Laughing_on_floor:
if it is MWF fried rice, i leave it to you guys ! :Laughing_on_floor:
-
chinese said 1 type of rice raise 100 type of human,
But if fried rice how?
thats depend on its japanese garlic fried rice, chinese yang zhou fried rice or taiwanese egg fried rice... :Laughing_on_floor:
if it is MWF fried rice, i leave it to you guys ! :Laughing_on_floor:
I prefer simple fried rice with just Chinese sausage and some wax duck.
-
I noticed that wherever this nasi goreng goes, inc Lowyatnet, can always generate a lot of hilarious & eccentric feedbacks. Please keep posting ...... really entertaining. :Laughing_on_floor:
-
As entertaining as it is, thread will be locked soon if heading nowhere...
TS doesn't seem keen to clarify and MWF members will just be left guessing.
-
chinese said 1 type of rice raise 100 type of human,
But if fried rice how?
thats depend on its japanese garlic fried rice, chinese yang zhou fried rice or taiwanese egg fried rice... :Laughing_on_floor:
if it is MWF fried rice, i leave it to you guys ! :Laughing_on_floor:
Don't forget the wine...red wine fried rice.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/fried20rice_zpsuqqgetkb.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/fried20rice_zpsuqqgetkb.jpg.html)
-
fried rice without cili api potong is not fried rice :P
-
Well, I'll give the T.S my benefit of doubt regarding the wine thingy. Cause I had been offered crazier things like free trips and some pretty indecent proposals. ;D
But never took any of those freebies, more interested in the watch itself and the available discount. Well even my wifey thinks I'm nutty vesting so much on watches but not on other stuff to upgrade status, aka ego.
I guess I'm just a freaking weirdo that loves watches more then other manly pursuit like cars or super bikes.
Somehow I believe you simply because I have met you in person and I know what kind of dough you drop on watches.
Enkidu and dpkong too, he drop serious moolah on watches too.
And dpkong, yes... the Kuching Taikoh... his usual AD can allow him to take the watch 1st and pay later... damn I did not take up on that offer... still kicking my nuts.
And it would be a crime if your usual AD does not bend over for you guys.
Now look at the list... if you know what I mean... ::)
Aiyoh... I see what you mean.
How to get wine like this :HammerHead:
-
Kuching taikoh huh? Please do enlightened me on which family are you from?
My wife is from one of the old families in Kuching. We may know each other..
He's from the Brooke family..you know, the ones who stayed at the Astana at the Waterfront.
Enkidu added one too many "o", it's the Broke family and we stay around the kampung near the Astana....
:Laughing_on_floor:
-
chinese said 1 type of rice raise 100 type of human,
But if fried rice how?
thats depend on its japanese garlic fried rice, chinese yang zhou fried rice or taiwanese egg fried rice... :Laughing_on_floor:
if it is MWF fried rice, i leave it to you guys ! :Laughing_on_floor:
I prefer simple fried rice with just Chinese sausage and some wax duck.
Eh, fried rice with waxed duck. Wonder what's the taste gonna be like. :-X
Well, I'll give the T.S my benefit of doubt regarding the wine thingy. Cause I had been offered crazier things like free trips and some pretty indecent proposals. ;D
But never took any of those freebies, more interested in the watch itself and the available discount. Well even my wifey thinks I'm nutty vesting so much on watches but not on other stuff to upgrade status, aka ego.
I guess I'm just a freaking weirdo that loves watches more then other manly pursuit like cars or super bikes.
Somehow I believe you simply because I have met you in person and I know what kind of dough you drop on watches.
Enkidu and dpkong too, he drop serious moolah on watches too.
And dpkong, yes... the Kuching Taikoh... his usual AD can allow him to take the watch 1st and pay later... damn I did not take up on that offer... still kicking my nuts.
And it would be a crime if your usual AD does not bend over for you guys.
Now look at the list... if you know what I mean... ::)
Wahh, seems like some of the members here very 'keng' lehh. ;D
Most to most so far I can only hutang for Seikos only. :D
-
Ok... I guess this thread has run it's course.
As much as I would like for this thread to continue on topic, thread will be locked as the TS himself is no longer interested in clearing any doubts.
The posts here will remain and the members can draw their own conclusions.