Post by: Everythings on December 22, 2014, 11:53:17 AM
RM15k can afford in what range of ROLEX watch?
Please help to suggest.
Thank in advance.
Post by: Devilzzz44 on December 22, 2014, 12:16:51 PM
Post by: Everythings on December 22, 2014, 02:39:45 PM
Perhaps a pre owned Sub..there is one in the pre owned corner...go and check it out bro.. :thumbsup:
How about new timepiece instead of pre owned ? Any suggestion ? :)
Post by: mike on December 22, 2014, 05:57:01 PM
Post by: Yikkie on December 22, 2014, 06:06:51 PM
Post by: budakkacamata on December 22, 2014, 06:53:22 PM
Post by: Devilzzz44 on December 22, 2014, 06:59:23 PM
Perhaps a pre owned Sub..there is one in the pre owned corner...go and check it out bro.. :thumbsup:
How about new timepiece instead of pre owned ? Any suggestion ? :)
Post by: tancho on December 22, 2014, 07:14:56 PM
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Post by: CKL1213 on December 25, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Post by: Shiang on December 26, 2014, 07:08:46 PM
15k air king lor
The brilliant Air-King!
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Post by: Friedrice on April 13, 2015, 11:10:48 PM
15k air king lor
The brilliant Air-King!
+1 for 'fei-kei wong' :thumbsup:
Post by: jason_recliner on April 14, 2015, 02:28:18 AM
Air King is not a nice watch.
Post by: nikfs1881 on April 14, 2015, 02:54:43 AM
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Post by: EvolutionZ on May 04, 2015, 10:05:42 PM
Or a brand new tudor Pelagos below 15k
Post by: DolCeAddicT on May 05, 2015, 05:15:39 PM
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Post by: keanewoon on May 07, 2015, 01:16:37 AM
Post by: vinorus on June 15, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
Post by: keanewoon on June 17, 2015, 06:16:21 PM
I have the same dilemma so I bought a preowned Tudor Black Bay and skipped psychogically all other Rolex models while funding for the ultimate Daytona... :-\
Hope ur itch is scratched until u hv enuf funds to land a daytona. Haha
Post by: Geneve on June 17, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
Post by: theseira on June 18, 2015, 08:45:48 AM
Its a classic and one of the most versatile piece also value retention is very strong if your paying ~RM15k that's good value.
I would stay away from oyster perpetual, air kings and date just. Mainly reason is because of hard resale and you will likely take a hit.
Also I doubt you can get a new decent Rolex for RM15k~. If you wanna top up and buy new get the ceramic sub, I got a second hand subC, I can say that its so versatile, dress formal or casual with it no problem also don't even have to worry about banging it around, ceramic bezel always make the piece look new (eventhough the piece I have is dated 2011) and glidelock is awesome.
Overall RM15k for a 14060 a good buy - I don't think anything can beat this in this range if you factor in brand recognition and value retention.
Post by: AsherLim on June 24, 2015, 06:47:24 AM
By the way, anybody has the full retail price list for 2015?
Oyster Perpetual - RM?
Lady Datejust - RM?
Datejust - RM?
Day Date - RM?
Datejust 2 - RM?
Day Date 2 - RM?
Milgauss - RM?
Explorer - RM?
Explorer 2 - RM?
GMT Master 2 - RM?
Submariner - RM?
Sea Dweller - RM?
Deepsea - RM?
Yachtmaster - RM?
Yachtmaster 2 - RM?
Daytona - RM?
Did I miss anything?
Post by: nikfs1881 on June 24, 2015, 08:10:33 AM
Just a thought. Seeing that with RM15k now, one can't even find a new Rolex. How much do you think new Rolex watches will cost in 5 years time? Would be fun to see everybody's predictions and revisit this thread 5 years later. ;)
By the way, anybody has the full retail price list for 2015?
Oyster Perpetual - RM?
Lady Datejust - RM?
Datejust - RM?
Day Date - RM?
Datejust 2 - RM?
Day Date 2 - RM?
Milgauss - RM?
Explorer - RM?
Explorer 2 - RM?
GMT Master 2 - RM?
Submariner - RM?
Sea Dweller - RM?
Deepsea - RM?
Yachtmaster - RM?
Yachtmaster 2 - RM?
Daytona - RM?
Did I miss anything?
Yes, you missed your forecasted price.....
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Post by: contender on June 24, 2015, 09:17:22 AM
Post by: vinorus on June 27, 2015, 08:20:15 PM
Just a thought. Seeing that with RM15k now, one can't even find a new Rolex. How much do you think new Rolex watches will cost in 5 years time? Would be fun to see everybody's predictions and revisit this thread 5 years later. ;)My observation is... It would be around RM3 to 4k cheaper from the latest discounted selling price. Depends. My 2c.
By the way, anybody has the full retail price list for 2015?
Oyster Perpetual - RM?
Lady Datejust - RM?
Datejust - RM?
Day Date - RM?
Datejust 2 - RM?
Day Date 2 - RM?
Milgauss - RM?
Explorer - RM?
Explorer 2 - RM?
GMT Master 2 - RM?
Submariner - RM?
Sea Dweller - RM?
Deepsea - RM?
Yachtmaster - RM?
Yachtmaster 2 - RM?
Daytona - RM?
Did I miss anything?
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Post by: keanewoon on June 27, 2015, 09:32:57 PM
From the feedback of various members here, you should buy Rolex without papers, as long they come in rolex box. It is common to have no papers and it's cheaper :Cheers:
Given choice, i prefer ones with cert. at least it's chance for stolen goods is much smaller.
From trf, there is one guy sent his watch to rsc and the watch is reported stolen, the rsc sent the watch to police. It happened in the US or Europe i cant recall.
I bought my first rolex from a private seller at mudah. Without cert, but he bot from a preowned shop in times square. by my limited knowledge of rolex, i might not able to distinguish if i was given a high grade fake.
So, when i send to rsc for service i was actually quite worried. At the end, it's all end well.
If u ask me whether i will do that again? I will only do it again if the seller agree to meet at rsc for verification before i complete the deal.
Buyer bewares.
Post by: saprozeldo on June 28, 2015, 03:35:32 PM
but here i learn that datejust is not recommended.. i was eyeing the 116234 black dial with diamond, which is ideal for my dress watch requirement.. ??? apart from demand, why fellow forumers here not recommending datejust?
and by and large, the recommendation here is to look for a submariner instead.. looking around, i took a liking to 116613 ceramic.. but it might delay my acquisition to get that extra 10k.. second, the submariner is not as dressy & seems like a daily user.. am comfortable with my graham and b&r for daily use..
torn in between.. any thoughts?
apologies in advance to TS if deemed hijack thread..
Post by: keanewoon on June 28, 2015, 08:09:04 PM
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Post by: saprozeldo on June 28, 2015, 08:54:13 PM
anyways, by sub is almost a complete time piece, do you mean coz you can wear for all occasions, formal & non-formal occasions, outdoor, sport or even rough use? any other? better mechanism etc?
Post by: keanewoon on June 28, 2015, 09:59:20 PM
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Post by: keanewoon on June 28, 2015, 10:01:32 PM
Since u r sure u want a dress watch. Dj wont be wrong imho.
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Post by: deriku on June 29, 2015, 08:10:10 AM
Rolex and dress watch (as defined above)...these two don't really gel unless you are going for the Cellini line. But nowadays as everything is 'casualized', it would not be out of place to wear a sport watch (eg Sub) with a suit. Personally I would go with something more subtle like the Explorer 1. The DJ is ok too though I think the Exp wins on versatility. There is also the new Oyster Perpetual that is pretty attractive and now comes in more 'wearable' sizes.
Ultimately it's up to you and what you look for in a dress watch.
Post by: keanewoon on June 29, 2015, 11:43:44 AM
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Post by: contender on July 01, 2015, 11:56:17 AM
What's wrong with the wg bezel? Why cannot take? It's the biggest selling point of the fluted bezel in my opinion.
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Post by: Geneve on July 01, 2015, 02:01:48 PM
Post by: deriku on July 01, 2015, 03:37:25 PM
Hmm, the hour markers of sub is rimmed with wg. Means cannot wear also?Is it WG or platinum? The markers on the Sub/GMT bezel are also plated with either of these materials.
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Post by: mtto2 on July 01, 2015, 07:40:50 PM
i can say u can try ur luck in looking for a preowned millgaus in good condition
:)
Post by: nikfs1881 on July 03, 2015, 03:31:27 AM
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Post by: kenji1903 on July 03, 2015, 06:55:50 AM
i've heard of that too but i noticed some malay uncles are wearing DJs with fluted bezel, not sure if vintage DJs are stainless steel? ;DWhat's wrong with the wg bezel? Why cannot take? It's the biggest selling point of the fluted bezel in my opinion.
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Post by: saprozeldo on July 03, 2015, 07:59:33 AM
so, the hour markers are white gold for submariner, GMT and explorer? i that its full steel, no? huuuuuu.. so milgauss is full steel? saw a few options out there for RM22k but 2009 or 2011 models.. worth a try?
Post by: saprozeldo on July 03, 2015, 08:30:15 AM
Post by: nikfs1881 on July 03, 2015, 08:43:02 AM
I rememver seeing a thread where you mentioned you took the plunge and bought the datejust already quite recently saprozeldo..... Now looking for the second rolex already?
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Post by: antoniosaprozeld on July 04, 2015, 03:19:41 PM
Got a good offer on a bnib milgaus green sapphire blue dial.. definitely the one if seller confirms qualify for d 5 year warranty..
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Post by: Narco on July 20, 2015, 03:35:42 PM
called up rolex.. & they confirmed now all models hands and hour markers are white gold based.. hmmmmmmmmmmm..
Thanks. I didnt realise this. Good to know and will do more homework on this. Not trying to be an ustaz, but considering that it is part of a watch, not decorative jewellery ( at least for me), i believe this is debatable even among Muslim scholars.
Sorry guys, just a sharing between muslim members.
Post by: chrisyen on July 21, 2015, 09:07:14 AM
MOD
Post by: keanewoon on July 21, 2015, 04:12:27 PM
GUYS - MWF for you to talk about watches. try not to bring religious matter into discussion! later some into arguement will be difficult !
MOD
Dont see any issue in stating the facts that are important to some ppl. No argument until u start it. Relax lah.
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Post by: swleong on July 21, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
called up rolex.. & they confirmed now all models hands and hour markers are white gold based.. hmmmmmmmmmmm..
Thanks. I didnt realise this. Good to know and will do more homework on this. Not trying to be an ustaz, but considering that it is part of a watch, not decorative jewellery ( at least for me), i believe this is debatable even among Muslim scholars.
Sorry guys, just a sharing between muslim members.
Off topic, but it would be good to know what's Muslim view on gold in horology, as knowledge sharing.
Reason being, I saw many of our Malaysian leaders wearing their AP & PP in public, though not gold model, but part of the movements are definitely made of gold. Unless those are fake ;D ;D
Post by: pexus on July 21, 2015, 06:20:36 PM
What a rollercoaster.. Tough being a newbie.. So here's the question.. Would you go for a milgauss or datejust2? To me, both are nice albeit the milgaus thunder/lightning hand is an acquired taste.. I had mixed feedback as to future value.. Some say datejust2 retains better than milgauss and vice versa.. Some say if u wear d milgauss, it takes a second look to realise its a rolex.. Now kinda shaken my earlier position.. So whats ur pref & why, datejust2 or milgauss?
its a very personal choice. One is a sport model with a scientific snd dressy characteristics, while we all know what datejusts or day dates are targeting.
Is it important people who took a look at your wrist must immediately recognise a Rolex? If yes, then the Milgauss is a poor choice and the DJ is probably the most 'rolexy' watch after the sub or GMT.
Value? its very subjective. How much are you paying for these watches? If you need to sell, are you patient willing to wait for the right selling price or you need a quick sale?
Personally, i will take the next few days to walk to as many AD and try and try and try and try. And buy only if you're sure you'll love and keep it for quite a while. All the best.
Post by: antoniosaprozeld on July 22, 2015, 08:28:47 AM
Thanks pexus.. i recently got me the green sub.. since that's rolexy enough.. your suggestion makes sense to go for a milgauss as my next target.. i really do dig the green sapphire effect on the blue diaal..What a rollercoaster.. Tough being a newbie.. So here's the question.. Would you go for a milgauss or datejust2? To me, both are nice albeit the milgaus thunder/lightning hand is an acquired taste.. I had mixed feedback as to future value.. Some say datejust2 retains better than milgauss and vice versa.. Some say if u wear d milgauss, it takes a second look to realise its a rolex.. Now kinda shaken my earlier position.. So whats ur pref & why, datejust2 or milgauss?
its a very personal choice. One is a sport model with a scientific snd dressy characteristics, while we all know what datejusts or day dates are targeting.
Is it important people who took a look at your wrist must immediately recognise a Rolex? If yes, then the Milgauss is a poor choice and the DJ is probably the most 'rolexy' watch after the sub or GMT.
Value? its very subjective. How much are you paying for these watches? If you need to sell, are you patient willing to wait for the right selling price or you need a quick sale?
Personally, i will take the next few days to walk to as many AD and try and try and try and try. And buy only if you're sure you'll love and keep it for quite a while. All the best.
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Post by: herng0326 on March 27, 2016, 11:07:32 AM
It should be within your budget.
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Post by: keanewoon on March 28, 2016, 10:59:33 AM
Got an offer for the 14060 with cert but without box at 13k..is it a good deal?
13k for a sub is very good price. But the condition must b something you can accept. With cert doesnt mean it is not stolen good etc. better giv it a check at rsc before cod.
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Post by: ywl23n on March 29, 2016, 02:16:35 PM
Got an offer for the 14060 with cert but without box at 13k..is it a good deal?
If the watch is authentic and condition is good, 13k with the cert is a steal.
Post by: ywl23n on March 29, 2016, 02:18:23 PM
pre owned rolex explorer 2 16570,good value for money.white dial =p
Agree on the white dial 16570. Look around long and hard enough and you should be able to find one full set that meet 15k budget.
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Post by: ywl23n on April 16, 2016, 06:44:35 PM
15k can get air King ? Any one got suggestion and please pm .
Old one yes. New 2016 model probably not, though pricing is not out yet