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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: Yikkie on September 13, 2014, 12:57:37 PM
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I am often asked the question as to why I would bother with Grand Seikos when I could buy the more popular Swiss or even German pieces for the asking price. Most would continue to add that the pictures of GS that they see from the internet is not all that impressive and look rather utilitarian compared to their Swiss counterparts.
Well, I used to share the same sentiments like everyone else...until I handled a GS in the metal in all it's naked glory. GS needs to be seen and molested in the metal to appreciate all the fine details and care that have gone into creating the perfect uncomplicated watch. Please ask your retailer to strip off all the shrink wrap on the GS to fully appreciate the extremely smooth Zaratsu polishing and the fine metal brushing on the case and bracelet. Bring along a loupe and appreciate every single details on the dial, which are executed to perfection even under intense magnification. Appreciate the fine beveling work of the movement if there is an exhibition case back. See the continuous sweep of the mirror polished second hand of the Spring Drive or Hi-Beat movement.
GS watches are for those who appreciate details. It's beauty is not apparent to everyone and only those with a fine appreciation of finishing and craftsmanship will fully appreciate the allure of the GS. It is rather like the Ryoan-Ji garden in Kyoto. To the untrained eye, it is nothing more than a few stones combined with some bigger rocks. However, if you take the time to appreciate the details and arrangement of the rock formations, you will only then appreciate one of the best Zen gardens in the world, listed as a UNESCO world heritage site.
As mentioned earlier, it is almost impossible to capture the beauty of GS in photos but I have tried my very best to capture the essence of what makes GS an outstanding proposition in my macro shots of my newly acquired SBGA105G.
Hope that you will enjoy the pictures and please excuse my rather amateurish macro photography skills.
The Case and The Dial
The watch "glimmers" like no other watches due to a combination of polishing, satin finishing and bevelling.
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/_DSC5664_zps0ef0c411.jpg)
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/_DSC5692_zps97b050bf.jpg)
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The sunburst blue dial catches the light with a halo effect encircling the dial.
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/_DSC5648_zps24a32c30.jpg)
The details of the dial such as the polished markers, brushed and beveled hands, appliqués and the 3D guilloche power reserve indicator is extraordinary.
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(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/_DSC5613_zps8e69ca94.jpg)
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The signed crown is very well executed
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/_DSC5709_zpsb963720a.jpg)
The Movement
Spring Drive is nothing more than a Quartz movement? Think again.
The Gold Medallion on the Rotor is very well crafted
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/_DSC5516_zps1b7c1c09.jpg)
Check out the exterior and interior Bevelling work done on the Rotor!
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/_DSC5476_zps1d65a791.jpg)
The extensive interior and exterior anglage on the movement is nothing short of amazing for the price of entry.
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/_DSC5393_zps76ecde05.jpg)
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Now where is the Like button
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the power reserve indicator looks gorgeous..
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Superb quality ! :Cheers:
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x1m :thumbsup:
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Great close ups
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The problem is its too pretty for daily wear ... Mine already has dings :Blue:
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Beautiful watch, beautiful photo, thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:
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I have to agree very nice quality indeed, when I checked out at one of the local AD .... spring drive for lack of a better word is Quartz :P
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Im deeply in LOVE...very nice piece..
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best blue dial ever seen in watch, GS has made one of best blue dial in market by far :)
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Really really nice pictures of the GS !
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Couldn't agree more. GS does deliver the finest watches on the planet.
If they start to introduce this colour dial to the 9S mechanical series, my wallet will be in deep trouble...
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WOW! Best way to beat the Monday blues...
Fantastic pics!
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Nice shade of blue
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Thank you for the kind words guys! It is very much appreciated. :Cheers:
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Ok I started to get convinced
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Very nice! :thumbsup: real beauty indeed.
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Thanks for sharing, what a beautiful time piece... :thumbsup:
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Nice watch, my dream to own it one day
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Beautiful pictures and Beautiful watch.
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Awesome craftsmanship and mesmerizing blue... Like like like! :thumbsup:
Wear in good health!
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Wow! Stunning pics and a top piece of writing, Yikkie. Job week done!
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Yikkie, are you snuggie on WUS?
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Thanks once again for the extremely kind words guys! :Cheers: Yes, Snuggie is indeed my alter ego on WUS. Have an excellent week ahead! :thumbsup:
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Nice pictures, but very average watch.
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Nice pictures, but very average watch.
What do you consider average about this watch?
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Nice pictures, but very average watch.
What do you consider average about this watch?
Hahaha. Maybe it is because it is a Seiko and Seiko only makes cheap and at best "very average" watches. Only high end Swiss watches like VC will be considered as above average in Nobby's books. ;)
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Nice pictures, but very average watch.
What do you consider average about this watch?
Hahaha. Maybe it is because it is a Seiko and Seiko only makes cheap and at best "very average" watches. Only high end Swiss watches like VC will be considered as above average in Nobby's books. ;)
Good, that’s one less person to compete when acquiring ‘average’ watches like Grand Seiko. There’s not that many to go around anyway…
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Gents
Please do not jump to a conclusion so far off the mark.
My opinion is entirely based upon my own ownership of a beautiful Grand Seiko SB a few years back now. I am not going to talk bad of the brand or the watch itself, I brought originally because I was convinced that it was very stylish and good value for money...and I still feel the same way - they make a beautiful addition to a collection.
My watch (along with other bits and pieces) was stolen from a locker on a shipyard in China...I hope the low life thief enjoys the watch as much as I did!
My conclusion that the watch is average is based upon the fact the general finish did not "age" well and the watches accuracy was not at all good, despite 2x services during a three year period.
I work a lot on ship yards and heavy industrial sites and the GS did not meet my expectations. However, is the brand a producer of beautiful watches? Absolutely Yes! Are they good value? I think so! Would I have another? No...
On a serious note; I hope this site accepts opinions, whether they be good or bad. If it is only complimentary comments accepted its a great shame.
Cheers Nobby
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sorry to heard about your watch being stolen, surely painful one..
do share more of your GS experience Nobby, love to hear more from GS owner :)
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Nice pictures, but very average watch.
What do you consider average about this watch?
Hahaha. Maybe it is because it is a Seiko and Seiko only makes cheap and at best "very average" watches. Only high end Swiss watches like VC will be considered as above average in Nobby's books. ;)
Good, that’s one less person to compete when acquiring ‘average’ watches like Grand Seiko. There’s not that many to go around anyway…
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Gents
Please do not jump to a conclusion so far off the mark.
My opinion is entirely based upon my own ownership of a beautiful Grand Seiko SB a few years back now. I am not going to talk bad of the brand or the watch itself, I brought originally because I was convinced that it was very stylish and good value for money...and I still feel the same way - they make a beautiful addition to a collection.
My watch (along with other bits and pieces) was stolen from a locker on a shipyard in China...I hope the low life thief enjoys the watch as much as I did!
My conclusion that the watch is average is based upon the fact the general finish did not "age" well and the watches accuracy was not at all good, despite 2x services during a three year period.
I work a lot on ship yards and heavy industrial sites and the GS did not meet my expectations. However, is the brand a producer of beautiful watches? Absolutely Yes! Are they good value? I think so! Would I have another? No...
On a serious note; I hope this site accepts opinions, whether they be good or bad. If it is only complimentary comments accepted its a great shame.
Cheers Nobby
Your initial post was too brief hence the questions. Please do share more of your old GS experience . What do you mean by not aging well? . I definitely would wanna know both the good and the bad of owning a particular brand
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Gents
Please do not jump to a conclusion so far off the mark.
My opinion is entirely based upon my own ownership of a beautiful Grand Seiko SB a few years back now. I am not going to talk bad of the brand or the watch itself, I brought originally because I was convinced that it was very stylish and good value for money...and I still feel the same way - they make a beautiful addition to a collection.
My watch (along with other bits and pieces) was stolen from a locker on a shipyard in China...I hope the low life thief enjoys the watch as much as I did!
My conclusion that the watch is average is based upon the fact the general finish did not "age" well and the watches accuracy was not at all good, despite 2x services during a three year period.
I work a lot on ship yards and heavy industrial sites and the GS did not meet my expectations. However, is the brand a producer of beautiful watches? Absolutely Yes! Are they good value? I think so! Would I have another? No...
On a serious note; I hope this site accepts opinions, whether they be good or bad. If it is only complimentary comments accepted its a great shame.
Cheers Nobby
My apologies for the sarcasm. You are of course entitled to your own opinions. It is just that your initial posting seems rather vague and felt a little like trolling. I am sorry to hear that your watch got stolen. I too would like to hear from another GS owner as to why you fell out of love with it. Could you let us know which model you owned? I am guessing it is not a hi beat or springdrive movement as accuracy is the last thing that you would complain about, unless it is broken. What do you mean by the general finish not aging well? Scratches too easily?
You had a bad experience with one single watch from GS and you could generalize that all GS models are "very average" based on that one experience although they could differ significantly in design and movement? That part, I don't really get. ??? What a great shame.
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Hey people, to each is own ..... if he thinks it's average so be it, why need to "whack him" .... it is good that not all will appreciate Grand Seiko .... so that the resale value remains low :laugh: so maybe can consider a pre-owned or pre-loved as another play watch. :Dancing_banana: :Cheers:
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Not "whacking" lah. Just a debate with some banter thrown in. ;D To each his own...just trying to understand the logic...but not everything or everyone is logical I guess. ::). Must be the nerdy engineer in me trying to reach out. :P
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The OP's photos are nice....but the rotor seems very thin for a watch of this high price.
The finishing of GS is super, but I believe the swiss mid-range luxury brands like Breitling, Omega, IWC, Panerai, Blancpain, JLC are improving fast also. So, the difference is getting smaller. Even normal Seikos like the Sumo diver, ananta have also improved their finishing. So the wow factor of GS is not so much now.
Just my 2 cents.
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Also it is easier to find a gs now compared to 10 years ago. So not unique or exclusive anymore. Also I think the production number has increased.
But gs is still very good value for money.
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Despite knowing that technically GS is better built and finished than many swiss made brands, but I still can't get over the fact that it still use the name Seiko.
I know this has been discussed and debated many times and at different forums, but I want my Rolex a Rolex, not Grand Tudor and my Lexus a Lexus, not Grand Toyota.
One of the reasons why GS is still not in my collections yet, some day, maybe.....
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Despite knowing that technically GS is better built and finished than many swiss made brands, but I still can't get over the fact that it still use the name Seiko.
I know this has been discussed and debated many times and at different forums, but I want my Rolex a Rolex, not Grand Tudor and my Lexus a Lexus, not Grand Toyota.
One of the reasons why GS is still not in my collections yet, some day, maybe.....
or grand alba for your normal seiko..... :Laughing_on_floor:
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Despite knowing that technically GS is better built and finished than many swiss made brands, but I still can't get over the fact that it still use the name Seiko.
I know this has been discussed and debated many times and at different forums, but I want my Rolex a Rolex, not Grand Tudor and my Lexus a Lexus, not Grand Toyota.
One of the reasons why GS is still not in my collections yet, some day, maybe.....
Well...very valid points...but why allow a name stop you from enjoying a superb watch? It is like saying no to a super hot supermodel just because her name is Helga or something. If you were to buy a watch for yourself, the name should not matter because you yourself know that it is a special watch but if you are buying it for the prestige of the brand and want to show it off occasionally, GS is definitely not for you...but that is why we need a collection of watches. Some to shiok sendiri and some to shiok lain-lain. :D. GS is certainly not the be all and end all brand out there, not even close but they certainly make their watches with astonishing level of details (for the price) like no other. You know you want one. :laugh:
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Also it is easier to find a gs now compared to 10 years ago. So not unique or exclusive anymore. Also I think the production number has increased.
But gs is still very good value for money.
GS is definitely much more common now, for better or worse. Production number has definitely increased significantly as GS used to be only marketed in Asia...namely Japan, Taiwan and HK as they could not cope with demand. Some would argue that it is bad value for money as it has the SEIKO name on the dial. Well, it would indeed be a boring (or peaceful) world if everyone agrees on something...but if you judge solely on the quality of watchmaking, GS has no peers in its price category. It will be hard to argue against that.
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Also it is easier to find a gs now compared to 10 years ago. So not unique or exclusive anymore. Also I think the production number has increased.
But gs is still very good value for money.
GS is definitely much more common now, for better or worse. Production number has definitely increased significantly as GS used to be only marketed in Asia...namely Japan, Taiwan and HK as they could not cope with demand. Some would argue that it is bad value for money as it has the SEIKO name on the dial. Well, it would indeed be a boring (or peaceful) world if everyone agrees on something...but if you judge solely on the quality of watchmaking, GS has no peers in its price category. It will be hard to argue against that.
At 15k to 20k region or a bit more....can get nomos, zenith elite, omega 8500, breitling b01 navitimer. All equally good imho. One matter that need to admit is that we dont see many japanese wearing gs. Japanese watch mags also like to focus on rolex and omega...very very popular in japan!!!!
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Also it is easier to find a gs now compared to 10 years ago. So not unique or exclusive anymore. Also I think the production number has increased.
But gs is still very good value for money.
GS is definitely much more common now, for better or worse. Production number has definitely increased significantly as GS used to be only marketed in Asia...namely Japan, Taiwan and HK as they could not cope with demand. Some would argue that it is bad value for money as it has the SEIKO name on the dial. Well, it would indeed be a boring (or peaceful) world if everyone agrees on something...but if you judge solely on the quality of watchmaking, GS has no peers in its price category. It will be hard to argue against that.
At 15k to 20k region or a bit more....can get nomos, zenith elite, omega 8500, breitling b01 navitimer. All equally good imho.
Haha. Funny you should mention, I have a Nomos, Zenith El Primero, Zenith Elite and an Omega...they are excellent in their own unique ways but when it comes to finishing of the case, dial, markers, hands and movement, the GS is still very much ahead in my humble opinion.
I don't know enough Japanese people to comment on how many of them wear GS. Rolex and Omega along with other Swiss and German brands are of course very popular in Japan. They can't just be focused on their own domestic brands no matter how good those brands are. For example, the Japanese undeniably make really excellent cars but German and Italian cars are also very popular there and probably the focus of many magazines. Please excuse my ignorance but I really could not understand the conclusion that you are trying to reach.
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Nice watch although I dont know if i would buy such an expensive Seiko tho but still its definitely a nice timepiece
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Also it is easier to find a gs now compared to 10 years ago. So not unique or exclusive anymore. Also I think the production number has increased.
But gs is still very good value for money.
GS is definitely much more common now, for better or worse. Production number has definitely increased significantly as GS used to be only marketed in Asia...namely Japan, Taiwan and HK as they could not cope with demand. Some would argue that it is bad value for money as it has the SEIKO name on the dial. Well, it would indeed be a boring (or peaceful) world if everyone agrees on something...but if you judge solely on the quality of watchmaking, GS has no peers in its price category. It will be hard to argue against that.
At 15k to 20k region or a bit more....can get nomos, zenith elite, omega 8500, breitling b01 navitimer. All equally good imho.
Haha. Funny you should mention, I have a Nomos, Zenith El Primero, Zenith Elite and an Omega...they are excellent in their own unique ways but when it comes to finishing of the case, dial, markers, hands and movement, the GS is still very much ahead in my humble opinion.
I don't know enough Japanese people to comment on how many of them wear GS. Rolex and Omega along with other Swiss and German brands are of course very popular in Japan. They can't just be focused on their own domestic brands no matter how good those brands are. For example, the Japanese undeniably make really excellent cars but German and Italian cars are also very popular there and probably the focus of many magazines. Please excuse my ignorance but I really could not understand the conclusion that you are trying to reach.
Yikkie, no doubt GS has really nice finishing ...... not every watch person may appreciate that, most are brand loyalist and wants to be associated with the brand that's why he is saying for that price point with his limited budget he will get all the other watches and he still have surplus funds may consider a GS .... unlike you who is more willing to try and has deeper pockets :Laughing_on_floor:
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In response to a couple of the earlier queries and accusatory remarks ( ::) ) -
a. I am most definately not a watch snob. I will go out of my way, quite literally, to own watches which do not attract unwarrant attention or be instantly recognisable to the masses. I avoid in your face BLING like the plague. Wearing a Submariner (and before I get slated...I like Subs) gets the attention of practically all in a crowded room...this I don't like. Wearing a more exclusive / exotic brand gets the knowing glance appreciation from the small minority of watch lovers only...this I much prefer. The Grand Seiko is fantastic in this regard.
b. The cost of a watch is no gauge for my level of desire for ownership. I do not care where the watch is manufactured, or by whome. I like and appreciate quality and value in equal measures. "Some" of the most beautiful watches on this planet are Japanese or English, German, Dutch etc. A watch does not NEED to be Swiss, for me to own, want or need.
c. Original comment was brief because I was sat in traffic typing with my thumb whilst driving (i know i shouldn't).
d. My ownership experience of a SBGM Auto GMT back in 2004/5 to 2008 (ish) was a 'love affair' not without it's issues. I loved the look and elegance of the watch. I adored its exclusivity and understated beauty...but;
Issue 1. My watch, which I bought preowned, was only 10 months old and in 9/10 condition when I took ownership. The watch was originally on the st/st bracelet and I wore it most days whilst out and about in a shipyard environment. I found that the bracelet (mainly) and body scratched extremely easily and did not withstand the rigors of my working day at all well. The watch rapidly aged and eventually I found that my GS no longer looked sufficiently pristine enough for formal occasions...this was after only 12 months of ownership. Note - I totally accept that my working environment was not "ideal" for classy watch wearing, but I bought this watch to replace a 12 year old Sub and unfortunately the GS looked worse than the Sub even after the Sub had had 12 years of abuse in much rougher conditions.
My Opinion - My GS did not suit my lifestyle demands - I loved it, but it deteriorated too quickly. If you have a GS please treat it good.
Issue 2. The watch dual time function was excellent, but as mentioned above, I bought the watch preowned and my everyday working environment was quite nasty. About 18 months into my ownership the watch began to loose time - up to 30 minutes over a 4 or 5 day period. So I sent the watch away for service and requested that they replace the bracelet with a leather (croc) strap, whilst they had it. Because I was not the original owner and had no original warranty entitlement, this servicing and parts cost a substantial packet. You note that I had the watch Serviced, rather than repaired. I assumed that the servicing would fix the lost time issues...
It didn't. The watch now looked much smarter with it's new strap, but the accuracy issue was still a problem. So...after another 6 or so months I could wait no longer. I sent the watch, via the dealer in Shanghai, back to Seiko for repair. Lots of money later the watch was returned to me having had its offending bit replaced. Watch was now great, keeping good time and looking scratched/scarred and ultra cool.
6 months or so later, some scum bag had it away with my locker contents, including watch and wallet :Mad:
My Opinion - My ownership experience was soured by these issues.
So...Looks 10/10, Value 8/10, Durability 4/10, Reliability 4/10
My overall Assessment - Average
Regards
Nobby
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great story Nobby, i can totally understand your situation, somehow GS watch are polished into very shine surface compare to SUB hence it get "aged" look easier esp in your working environment, i must admit that GS may not be as tough as SUB do
i'm quite surprise the accuracy was so bad, perhaps the older movement compare with all my current (2012 or later model) which running pretty fine (within COSC at least), i would not dare to say all GS must be 100% good in accuracy but i believe their QC is getting more strict for pass few years, u must be very lucky to get a lemon piece :p
thanks for sharing and appreciated :)
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Hi David,
I am sure that you are correct. As with everthing else in this world of ours, there's always a rogue bad 'un (as they say in Manchester). I think the one I had was a late Friday afternoon special :-\
They are a beautiful watch, enjoy your GS to the full and wear it in good health :Cheers:
Nobby
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sorry i don't have GS, so i wanna double check, is GS using pin in their bracelets?
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sorry i don't have GS, so i wanna double check, is GS using pin in their bracelets?
Both my GS use screws in their bracelets. Not too sure about the entire range of GS, old and new. If I am not mistaken, all modern GS with bracelets come with screws. However, their titanium watches like the Snowflake comes with friction pins as Ti is a softer alloy than Steel. If Seiko were to use screw threads on their titanium links, it would be easy to strip the thread due to the softer nature of Ti alloy. Hence, friction pins are used.
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If I remember correctly, mine (circa 2004) ustilised friction pins throughout and used tiny cap screws in the adjustment links.
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If I remember correctly, mine (circa 2004) ustilised friction pins throughout and used tiny cap screws in the adjustment links.
All 3 of my GS use pins (not much friction in fact) and really really tiny screw caps at both ends of the adjustment links. You need to remove both screw caps on each adjustment link, pushed out the pin with another pin (or fine needle, either of which is not provided by Seiko, sorry) from one end. Be careful not to lose any of the tiny screw caps. No micro adjustments. I think the folks at Seiko have been too busy polishing the watch and simply neglected to make more user friendly bracelets.
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If I remember correctly, mine (circa 2004) ustilised friction pins throughout and used tiny cap screws in the adjustment links.
All 3 of my GS use pins (not much friction in fact) and really really tiny screw caps at both ends of the adjustment links. You need to remove both screw caps on each adjustment link, pushed out the pin with another pin (or fine needle, either of which is not provided by Seiko, sorry) from one end. Be careful not to lose any of the tiny screw caps. No micro adjustments. I think the folks at Seiko have been too busy polishing the watch and simply neglected to make more user friendly bracelets.
That is a more accurate description. It is a combination of screws and pins, which is different from the usual friction pin system that you would need to hammer out to remove the links. The screw caps are indeed very small and quite fiddly.
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Nice pictures, but very average ship yard watch.
Fixed that for you ;)
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Nice pictures, but very average ship yard watch.
Fixed that for you ;)
:Laughing_on_floor: The ideal shipyard watch would probably be either a Sinn or a Damasko with the hardened steel...or a G-Shock. ;D. GS will definitely be "very average" or even "below average" if used as a tool watch.
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Yikkie,
With my ownership summary, I was being ultra-considerate, so as not to create unwarrant upset;
A huge proportion of my time is spent in office environments, albeit at shipyards, but the truth is this. My watches that I most often wear at "work" are Rolex and the breitling I bought to replace the GS. Both have stood up well to the "challenges" of my work environment, for much longer periods than the GS.
The GS is delicate...too delicate ::)
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Yikkie,
With my ownership summary, I was being ultra-considerate, so as not to create unwarrant upset;
A huge proportion of my time is spent in office environments, albeit at shipyards, but the truth is this. My watches that I most often wear at "work" are Rolex and the breitling I bought to replace the GS. Both have stood up well to the "challenges" of my work environment, for much longer periods than the GS.
The GS is delicate...too delicate ::)
Thanks for the summary bro. How could we get upset over your own experience with your watch? We were just a little concerned initially that you commented that the SBGA105 is a very average watch without giving any reasons. (Probably not a good idea to post on forums while driving) Your experience with your own watch still does not fully justify your initial statement as they are very different watches although of the same brand. I understand that you did not have a pleasant experience with the GS you owned and it is indeed a shame that the GS gave you problems. However, that one watch does not represent all that GS has to offer.
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Yikkie,
I made that clear in my earlier post...I believe I had a bad one and one should not assume that they are all like mine, and I am SURE that mine did not meet the standards one should expect from GS.
I like Grand Seiko! (not loud enough!) I LIKE GRAND SEIKO
My opinion is exactly that...my opinion. As much as I like them, I would not have another one.
My ownership assessment = Average, 5/10, 50%,etc
I am sure, and I truly hope, that your GS watches are much better than the one I had. Enjoy them.
Nobby :Praying:
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This is a really interesting thread. Kudos to all sifu's exchanges. I was always been intrigued by what are the grand things about another 'Seiko'. Little do i know how wrong i can be...
Let me tell my part of meeting this Grand Seiko in person. Was window shopping with family in Sunway Pyramid. Then, daughter gotta do toilet business so wife followed. Left alone for awhile, i wander into the nearest watch shop (like a routine). Its a general Seiko shop, with the most pricey pieces at the main entrance. Voila!
Looked see around, no one seems to notice me until i gotta ask a young lady to open up the cabinets. The target was a diver GS, my fav type as I'm a diver myself. First impression was 'its really light' until it feels cheap... Then i flip it around and its answered my question: full titanium case and bracelet. Its really solid. Got the lady to wound up the watch and remove the plastic.. Well, that's a bad mistake. The details were meticulous!! Especially how the blued second hands sweeps around the dial.. My heart went ballistic.
I murmured to my father in law (who happens to wander next to me) on the smooth glide of the hand. The lady responded "Yup, its bcoz it is an automatic watch. Not like your battery watch.' Felt slighted a bit, i asked for a tray to try the watch but she said only one but in use now. More bad feeling (on the salesgirl, not the GS), I promptly remove my rolex sub blue two tone to my father while putting the GS on my wrist. Another mistake.. That's it. I decided i want it. Now.
So badly i almost hand out the cash in my bag but..but... rational minds persists. My missus will kills me for this reckless move. Its time to plan ahead how to justify this to the home minister. Been having dreams about this GS lately.
So in fact, there's a mechant in MWF who happens to hav two nice GS for sale. Unfortunately for my part, i prefer the blued version of this snowflake GS which i believe was grabbed by one of the forummer in this thread. Well well.. Will see whether my heart still sings to this. So, the moral is, do not ever ever try a GS (or any other watch) unless u wanna kena poisoned.
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window shopping for GS few times, but i never dare to try it because i know i will do stupid things.
for the moment, i need to endure, i guess this is delay gratification
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This is a really interesting thread. Kudos to all sifu's exchanges. I was always been intrigued by what are the grand things about another 'Seiko'. Little do i know how wrong i can be...
Let me tell my part of meeting this Grand Seiko in person. Was window shopping with family in Sunway Pyramid. Then, daughter gotta do toilet business so wife followed. Left alone for awhile, i wander into the nearest watch shop (like a routine). Its a general Seiko shop, with the most pricey pieces at the main entrance. Voila!
Looked see around, no one seems to notice me until i gotta ask a young lady to open up the cabinets. The target was a diver GS, my fav type as I'm a diver myself. First impression was 'its really light' until it feels cheap... Then i flip it around and its answered my question: full titanium case and bracelet. Its really solid. Got the lady to wound up the watch and remove the plastic.. Well, that's a bad mistake. The details were meticulous!! Especially how the blued second hands sweeps around the dial.. My heart went ballistic.
I murmured to my father in law (who happens to wander next to me) on the smooth glide of the hand. The lady responded "Yup, its bcoz it is an automatic watch. Not like your battery watch.' Felt slighted a bit, i asked for a tray to try the watch but she said only one but in use now. More bad feeling (on the salesgirl, not the GS), I promptly remove my rolex sub blue two tone to my father while putting the GS on my wrist. Another mistake.. That's it. I decided i want it. Now.
So badly i almost hand out the cash in my bag but..but... rational minds persists. My missus will kills me for this reckless move. Its time to plan ahead how to justify this to the home minister. Been having dreams about this GS lately.
So in fact, there's a mechant in MWF who happens to hav two nice GS for sale. Unfortunately for my part, i prefer the blued version of this snowflake GS which i believe was grabbed by one of the forummer in this thread. Well well.. Will see whether my heart still sings to this. So, the moral is, do not ever ever try a GS (or any other watch) unless u wanna kena poisoned.
That is great story bro! Thanks for sharing! The GS diver is a really nice watch but the Ti version could be polarizing. Some like the lightness of Ti and some prefers more weight. I personally find Ti to be overly light and that is the only reason why I haven't pulled the trigger on the Snowflake (and of course the lack of cash). Having said that, GS polish their Ti like no other and the shine is almost akin to their own Zaratsu polished SS and far superior to any other polished Ti watches I have handled. The diver also comes with SS but it does not have the gold accents that make the Ti version pop.
Time to get one bro. You know you want one. It will compliment your Sub very nicely. The Rolex for the brand prestige and the GS to shiok sendiri. ;D
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window shopping for GS few times, but i never dare to try it because i know i will do stupid things.
for the moment, i need to endure, i guess this is delay gratification
Hahaha...as they say the journey could be more interesting than the destination. Time to scratch that itch bro. :Cheers:
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window shopping for GS few times, but i never dare to try it because i know i will do stupid things.
for the moment, i need to endure, i guess this is delay gratification
Don't do it! :police:
:thumbsup:
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Actually eyeing the quartz model, 10 seconds a Year is tempting
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I have been poisoned by all the beautiful pics in this forum
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Actually eyeing the quartz model, 10 seconds a Year is tempting
oh my... the SBGX103
(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f21/1160152d1374168801-grand-seiko-sbgx103-even-better-person-pic-heavy-img_3595.jpg)
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Yup, i concur with bro Yikkee. The titanium can make any watch feels weird. Esp when the fine polishing on GS make the titanium looks like stainless steel. Kinda odds...
Shouldn't hav try on this watch... :Blue:
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GS Quartz owners, does the seconds hand landed spot on, on the minutes markers?
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GS Quartz owners, does the seconds hand landed spot on, on the minutes markers?
I cannot speak for others, but I'm quite happy with mine. Here are 2 pics with the second hand at almost polar positions.....
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/GS251014_zpsa218466b.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/GS251014_zpsa218466b.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/GS2510142_zpse150d3c0.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/GS2510142_zpse150d3c0.jpg.html)
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Great Shot!!
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Grand Seiko probably makes the best looking and most accurate Quartz movement in the market. I mean...look at the thing....
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s643/yikkie23/036b14656d15841d36579fe2d4a50865_zpseafdaf1e.jpg)
Pretty awesome looking for a quartz movement. Beveling on the edges and slots for the screws and crystals!
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Enkidu, thanks for the pics, it is spot on
I've had Swiss Quartz, to my disappointment, the seconds hand does not land spot on
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Great story WHEELQ... :thumbsup:
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GS Quartz owners, does the seconds hand landed spot on, on the minutes markers?
Mine does, with unerring accuracy.
(http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o698/euclidorus/2013-08-12120708_zpsabcdcfe6.jpg) (http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/euclidorus/media/2013-08-12120708_zpsabcdcfe6.jpg.html)
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the details of Grand Seiko is astonishing.
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To me, grand seiko is a bargain in-term of horological value if you would have compared it to the swiss counterparts. Just bought a sbga029, the finishing is astonishing and does put my sub lv and moonwatch into shame. The spring drive is the most accurate mechanical movement i have ever own. Well some might argue its a quartz, to me its a mechanical since it offers no energy from an electrical source and only an electromagnetic field to act as brake and with a 3 days power reserve, it's a leap in watch technology. The case and the steel bracelet finishes is second to none. For those who enjoy watch horological values , buy one and you'll never regret. However, size is slightly large for some, but the non clustered dial (non-prejudice, to my opinion) is a winner compared to any of latests divers Rolex offered.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Spiderboy80/Seiko/C2CBEB26-9FFA-411C-AAE9-AA6C909C6D99.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Spiderboy80/media/Seiko/C2CBEB26-9FFA-411C-AAE9-AA6C909C6D99.jpg.html)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Spiderboy80/Seiko/6A73F65E-3C84-45FC-B0A0-1BDFEF4C9AA6.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Spiderboy80/media/Seiko/6A73F65E-3C84-45FC-B0A0-1BDFEF4C9AA6.jpg.html)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Spiderboy80/Seiko/04EC34C6-DDEB-4453-BE02-8080E10170A0.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Spiderboy80/media/Seiko/04EC34C6-DDEB-4453-BE02-8080E10170A0.jpg.html)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Spiderboy80/Seiko/null_zps51937705.jpg)[/URL]
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To me, grand seiko is a bargain in-term of horological value if you would have compared it to the swiss counterparts. Just bought a sbga029, the finishing is astonishing and does put my sub lv and moonwatch into shame. The spring drive is the most accurate mechanical movement i have ever own. Well some might argue its a quartz, to me its a mechanical since it offers no energy from an electrical source and only an electromagnetic field to act as brake and with a 3 days power reserve, it's a leap in watch technology. The case and the steel bracelet finishes is second to none. For those who enjoy watch horological values , buy one and you'll never regret. However, size is slightly large for some, but the non clustered dial (non-prejudice, to my opinion) is a winner compared to any of latests divers Rolex offered.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Spiderboy80/Seiko/C2CBEB26-9FFA-411C-AAE9-AA6C909C6D99.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Spiderboy80/media/Seiko/C2CBEB26-9FFA-411C-AAE9-AA6C909C6D99.jpg.html)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Spiderboy80/Seiko/6A73F65E-3C84-45FC-B0A0-1BDFEF4C9AA6.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Spiderboy80/media/Seiko/6A73F65E-3C84-45FC-B0A0-1BDFEF4C9AA6.jpg.html)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Spiderboy80/Seiko/04EC34C6-DDEB-4453-BE02-8080E10170A0.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Spiderboy80/media/Seiko/04EC34C6-DDEB-4453-BE02-8080E10170A0.jpg.html)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Spiderboy80/Seiko/null_zps51937705.jpg)[/URL]
Very nice Bottega Veneta wristlet and an even nicer GS SD Diver! Hate to sound like a fanboy but GS is really the bomb. Wear in good health bro. :Cheers:
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welcome to the GS diver club spidy, u r so right about the comparison to rollie and speedy :Cheers:
mine to say hi ;D
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/DavidNikon/c679af1d-46ae-4924-b537-2d906ff12b2b_zpsb2067a0c.jpg)
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Thanks Yikkie ! =) and hello to davidtth the blue limited gs ! :Cheers: :Cheers:
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Nice divers! My only complaint is its too pretty for everyday use :Laughing_on_floor:
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Now that is a masterpiece indeed. :thumbsup:
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Nice divers! My only complaint is its too pretty for everyday use :Laughing_on_floor:
Yep, agreed. If it were me, ill keep it in a display case. :Laughing_on_floor:
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Just messing around in the garden today.
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z389/jason_recliner1/Grand%20Seiko%20SBGH001/IMAG2246_3_zps8engnzdy.jpg) (http://s1187.photobucket.com/user/jason_recliner1/media/Grand%20Seiko%20SBGH001/IMAG2246_3_zps8engnzdy.jpg.html)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z389/jason_recliner1/Grand%20Seiko%20SBGH001/IMAG2249_1_1_zps6gam8t6x.jpg) (http://s1187.photobucket.com/user/jason_recliner1/media/Grand%20Seiko%20SBGH001/IMAG2249_1_1_zps6gam8t6x.jpg.html)
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Hi,
Dear Friend.
Highly impressed by look of such decent watch,it's really have stong builted,attractive case,stylist look.
Thanks for share,lookinf forwards for other models from you
Cheer
Roul Hance
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Watch Expo at Siam Paragon
The most affordable GS automatic is priced at about RM14.52k after VAT refund at airport.
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Watch Expo at Siam Paragon
The most affordable GS automatic is priced at about RM14.52k after VAT refund at airport.
Not that much different in prices between Bangkok and KL. However, Bangkok may have the broader range of GS available compared to KL (can anyone confirm?)
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Watch Expo at Siam Paragon
The most affordable GS automatic is priced at about RM14.52k after VAT refund at airport.
Not that much different in prices between Bangkok and KL. However, Bangkok may have the broader range of GS available compared to KL (can anyone confirm?)
Yup, my friend said so.
AFAIK, Thailand has a very wide range of all Seiko ranges, some even specific for Thailand only.
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Saw credor watch and it's original price in Japan Yen2.25million.
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Limited GS at Watatime Pavillion .. Range from rm22k to rm26k before discount
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(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160807/3d65710bd9dc892b4babd904fde1cedc.jpg)
Limited GS at Watatime Pavillion .. Range from rm22k to rm26k before discount
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I checked Thailand AD and Johor baru AD prices that are after discount (as much as 20%) . Their after discounted prices are the same.
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The Glante is at the same price range with GS but its size is big and loud.
It could be a GS sub brand to attack the big size watch market. :thumbsup: