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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: theseira on March 27, 2014, 07:12:31 AM
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Yesterday after looking at all the new pieces released by Rolex. I was really impressed by the Pepsi GMT and the Sea Dweller. Just wondering what the enthusiast here at mwf think about them?
For me:
The Pros:
I am dreaming of the Pepsi GMT. :thumbsup: I love how Rolex brought back the classic Pan Am colours. Might be my next dream haha. I already ordered a non rolex piece this year so maybe next year.
Also a big fan of reintroduction of the sea dweller. Really amazing.
The Cons:
Was hoping for a rolex perpetual moonphase type of come back. sadly didn't happen but the GMT Pepsi made up for it for sure. And not really excited about the 3 new daytonas.
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Just browse the Rolex website saw these predicted models.
They hear well the from the consumer.
They have prepared what the consumer wants.
That's why they are so successful.
My opinion:-
Pepsi preowned prices has gone up. Ppl are snapping up the discontinued model. Therefore I think they see this demand they make it into white gold to milk more. I believe the price will be high but ppl are willing to pay for a new Pepsi in white gold.
SD too the price of the pre owned has gone up. Every time if you noticed the model on sale is very fast being snapped up. And again they noticed the demand for a smaller DSSD.
That's my opinion
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I think the new Cellini is gorgeous too
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nothing excites me from Rolex this time round which is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Was told that the SD's RRP is CHF 9,900 i.e. @3.6/3.7 its approx. RM 36K..... :P
Excitement has turned to disappointment and a further deferment to return to owning a Rolex.
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nothing excites me from Rolex this time round which is not necessarily a bad thing.
was digging this one until i saw "18K white gold casing" :Blue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvUi0XQeGgE
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Was told that the SD's RRP is CHF 9,900 i.e. @3.6/3.7 its approx. RM 36K..... :P
Welcome back the iconic SD but the price is :Startled: :Startled:
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Lets just hope Rolex make a stainless-steel version of the Pepsi :Praying:
Besides from that, the new cellini is beautiful too ;D
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All in all, I personally feel it's a great showing from Rolex.
The GMTiic Pepsi - Ppl have been saying they want it for ages... and now they got it... in white gold. I think it's a genius move. Those who want a Pepsi will have to pay for it. Will it come in stainless steel in the future? I doubt it. This model is positioned in the same league as the white gold blue Submariner. You see a blue sub = white gold. Same here... you see a pepsi = white gold.
If they were to release a Pepsi in stainless steel, it would defeat the purpose of a white gold piece in the 1st place.
But we can still hope for a Coke in stainless steel in the near future though.
The new Cellini - I find it interesting. Is this a sign of Rolex moving into complications? But in Rolex fashion which is turtle paced... lol... Will it give the similarly segment from the usual PP, VC, AP a run for it's money? Only time will tell.
The Seadweller 4000 aka SDc - I find this release as Rolex's way of telling us that the big watch fad is over. A smaller cased and thinner watch than the DSSD but with and extra 100m water resistant rating? (4000m vs 3900m) What does that tell you?
Nice watch... Heavy duty... Price wise is abit stiff.
The blue dialed Milgauss - Erm.... would be nice if it comes with a blue tinted sapphire crystal instead of the green one. Will the colours clash? I dunno... but I am skeptical that this colour combo would work. But I am not Rolex... They SHOULD know what they're doing...
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I also don't think that Pepsi will come in SS. If they did that how are we going to identify the WG. But damn the retail price of this is nuts. I assume that Rolex price rise is coming. At the moment it looks like pepsi GMT is retailing more then the smurf sub and gold daytonas. Normally it retails below sub.
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Looks like I'm the only 'weird' one here as I have no love for the new Pepsi, the new SD, the new Cellini.... :Confused:
And I think the new Milgauss looks amazing with the blue dial! :thumbsup:
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The new Seadweller WR at 4000m? I thought is 4000ft = 1220m?
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The only watch that caught my interest is the Cellini Dual Time in everose gold.
So for now, wallet contents are safe :Laughing_on_floor:
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The new Seadweller WR at 4000m? I thought is 4000ft = 1220m?
Yes you are right Gmac... my mistake...
DSSD still trump it on WR rating. :)
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Very handsome line-up and the Pepsi really sets the heart a-fluttering. If only they would release it in s/steel too...
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I was a little stunned too bro Hanz. Cos with a smaller case and higher WR, it would signify that there is a huge leap in tech by Rolex to make the DSSD redundant. In fact I was looking to sell the DSSD to go for the SD since at 40mm, it is more wearable.
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On the new milgauss. If I remember my science class, mixing green and blue gives you turquoise (http://www.gemselect.com/other-info/graphics/turquoise-gem.jpg)
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good job on cellini
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You will be making a big mistake if you sell rolex 1st watch with a ceramic bezel.Very soon when there are less in the market the price will sky rocket . In future , rolex are not going to sell the DSSD cheap, compare to the material used for the SD namely the 5mm thick sapphire ,clasp, WR n etc. Moreover if you look carefully at the new Sd thick lugs and compare it with the discontinue SD you will go for the latter with its slick n shapely lugs.
I was a little stunned too bro Hanz. Cos with a smaller case and higher WR, it would signify that there is a huge leap in tech by Rolex to make the DSSD redundant. In fact I was looking to sell the DSSD to go for the SD since at 40mm, it is more wearable.
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Very nice watches from Rolex this time. GMT II and SD 4000 my favorites!
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The new Pepsi caught my eye .... heart started beating faster ... mouth became dry ... fingers flying ... studying, researching ... oh my .... oh dear .... OMG!!!!
POppppp ..... slow deflation .....
The new Pepsi - available in white gold only - at a cost 36000 swiss francs !!!! :Startled: :Mad:
Oh well ... looks like it is the batman for me ....
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Pepsi is nice but prefer it to be in SS from the price perspective.
In WG, and for that kind of money, I would rather spend on something else.
I am impressed with the Cellini line up.
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On the new milgauss. If I remember my science class, mixing green and blue gives you turquoise (http://www.gemselect.com/other-info/graphics/turquoise-gem.jpg)
Yup, look weird for the color combination
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On the new milgauss. If I remember my science class, mixing green and blue gives you turquoise (http://www.gemselect.com/other-info/graphics/turquoise-gem.jpg)
Yup, look weird for the color combination
Will be a good match with a jade ring...
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The new Pepsi caught my eye .... heart started beating faster ... mouth became dry ... fingers flying ... studying, researching ... oh my .... oh dear .... OMG!!!!
POppppp ..... slow deflation .....
The new Pepsi - available in white gold only - at a cost 36000 swiss francs !!!! :Startled: :Mad:
Oh well ... looks like it is the batman for me ....
That is about rm130k :Startled:
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If this price is really true, either Rolex thinks their fans will never abandon them regardless of their prices or they think they are now capable of challenging Patek Philippe and Lange even bypassing AP & VC. ???
The new Pepsi caught my eye .... heart started beating faster ... mouth became dry ... fingers flying ... studying, researching ... oh my .... oh dear .... OMG!!!!
POppppp ..... slow deflation .....
The new Pepsi - available in white gold only - at a cost 36000 swiss francs !!!! :Startled: :Mad:
Oh well ... looks like it is the batman for me ....
That is about rm130k :Startled:
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If this price is really true, either Rolex thinks their fans will never abandon them regardless of their prices or they think they are now capable of challenging Patek Philippe and Lange even bypassing AP & VC. ???
The new Pepsi caught my eye .... heart started beating faster ... mouth became dry ... fingers flying ... studying, researching ... oh my .... oh dear .... OMG!!!!
POppppp ..... slow deflation .....
The new Pepsi - available in white gold only - at a cost 36000 swiss francs !!!! :Startled: :Mad:
Oh well ... looks like it is the batman for me ....
Yes some people will still pay. Believe me. Sky dweller and white gold blue sub date alrrady in that range. These are not high prod models. Partof the high price is because of lack of economy of scale. But why you said challenge to pp, lange ap etc?? ??? Imho rolex has different product philosophy and diff mkt segment. People dun look at price alone when buying watches.
That is about rm130k :Startled:
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Of course there are always people who will buy.
Just as there are people who buy de Grisogono or Jacob & Co some of which costs 6 figures as well.
I know of a ex stock broker who has several precious metal Rolexes, mostly platinum and he only owns Rolexes.
When I asked him why not Lange or any of the trinity, he said that he grew up with Rolex, it gives him the security of reliability.
He said not only does he not know abt complications, he has absolutely no interest in watches.
He is not aware and not interested to find out more about other manufactures. He just has so much cash that buying the most expensive Rolexes to wear is like me buying a regular Seiko.
He also buys every single Limited Edition Leica film and digital camera that has ever been issued since 80's. He is Leica Malaysia's top customer.
I'm just saying that similar to Omega increasing its prices to narrow the gap to Rolex, Rolex is increasing their price levels very substantially. Its not just the WG Pepesi, every single new model's prices have been increased substantially. Its as if they want to keep the gap from Omega and at the same time narrow the gap to the trinity.
Its purely my opinion and you are free to disagree. A WG Pepsi with no complication other than a GMT where the movement in a stainless steel costs a third od the price, Rolex is definitely pushing the price envelope to see how far they can push. I was just equating it to the trinity price levels.
Of course Rolex targets a different crowd, its obvious. what they are doing is not far different from what APROO targets their buyers..
If this price is really true, either Rolex thinks their fans will never abandon them regardless of their prices or they think they are now capable of challenging Patek Philippe and Lange even bypassing AP & VC. ???
The new Pepsi caught my eye .... heart started beating faster ... mouth became dry ... fingers flying ... studying, researching ... oh my .... oh dear .... OMG!!!!
POppppp ..... slow deflation .....
The new Pepsi - available in white gold only - at a cost 36000 swiss francs !!!! :Startled: :Mad:
Oh well ... looks like it is the batman for me ....
Yes some people will still pay. Believe me. Sky dweller and white gold blue sub date alrrady in that range. These are not high prod models. Partof the high price is because of lack of economy of scale. But why you said challenge to pp, lange ap etc?? ??? Imho rolex has different product philosophy and diff mkt segment. People dun look at price alone when buying watches.
That is about rm130k :Startled:
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Yeah the price Pepsi GMT is insane. Recently I got some quotes for the YG GMT IIC and the lowest price was RM 78k new. I suspect that the new GMT will be slightly more expensive.
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Love the new Sea Dweller, looks more like the original SD.
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I kind of like the new Oyster Perpetual 36 mm Red grape, sunray finish dial
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Love the pepsi...but crazy price rather get the smurf....shall wait for the ss edition to be out thats a sure hit
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Love the pepsi...but crazy price rather get the smurf....shall wait for the ss edition to be out thats a sure hit
I don't think there will ever be a SS version of the pepsi. Owners of the WG version will be really unhappy if that were ever to happen. The blue dial and bezel of the WG Submariner Date was and likely never will be released as a SS version.
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The SS version of pepsi will release sooner and later. Just like what happened to the Yacthmaster II, ss version issued 2 years later at cost of about 45% of WG version. But the SS pepsi will still cost a bomb (RM60K) based on the same basis. :Blue:
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The SS version of pepsi will release sooner and later. Just like what happened to the Yacthmaster II, ss version issued 2 years later at cost of about 45% of WG version. But the SS pepsi will still cost a bomb (RM60K) based on the same basis. :Blue:
Well YMII WG and YMII SS bezel is different.
Same for Pepsi Ceramic that bezel is for the WG version imo.
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The SS version of pepsi will release sooner and later. Just like what happened to the Yacthmaster II, ss version issued 2 years later at cost of about 45% of WG version. But the SS pepsi will still cost a bomb (RM60K) based on the same basis. :Blue:
As much as I would like it to happen.
It is unlikely it will happen.
Same reason why the blue sub will never be in stainless steel.