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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: mike on February 08, 2014, 09:03:03 PM
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Hi, I am new to watches, couldn't call myself a watch enthusiast, thus i am asking everyone for a few advices for my first luxury watch.
I'm still a student, working as a part-time for a watch, so my budget is slightly low, a merely RM5000.
I have a few options,
Maurice-Lacroix pontos day-date. The original price was around RM7500 but its reduced to [mod : pls dont post discounted rate on the forum].
SevenFriday P1. Around RM3500, not sure if its a good buy and worthy of its price.
Ball trainmaster eternity. Original price was around 7000 and is reduced to [mod : pls dont post discounted rate on the forum].
Would be thankful if anyone would suggest me to go for something else, or advices on the watches listed above.
Thanks a million. :)
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Tough question. Because your budget is quite tight and I understand your a student so its quite hard.
But if I am in your shoes I would get a G-shock. IMO its trendier and much cheaper and better then the brands you mentioned.
I would then save up to over 17k+ or so and will be scouting the second hand market for a mint Rolex Submariner. And if you somehow have to sell off your subby in the future you won't be losing too much money. Where as those brands you mentioned are very bad in the secondary market also bad in terms of desirability and recognition.
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I already have a G-Shock. In fact, I have a few other watches like Seiko and Fossil.
This one is the first luxury watch I'm buying, would be investing on more watches in the future i hope :P
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I,personally don't believed in buying watches that have a good resale value vs. buying a watch that I really like.
If you restrict yourself to only those "good" resale watch,you'll missed out on owning a lot of really great watches out there.
If you have a budget of 5k,than scout around for a watch that has a good discount to meet that budget.
In the mean time work hard(and smart) to increase your financial status so that you'll be able to collect your watches along the way.
MY motto,when the going gets tough, work harder you owe it to yourself to have the best things in life.
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hi,
Not to rub it in but all of us have been where you are now.
As a student all I wore were Seikos, Citizens, some Swiss brands that have gone bankrupt like Pagol, Titoni (not the same Titoni today) and Omega which was loaned to me by my brothers…
Having hindsight now I realize that I made many mistakes in my watch acquisition journey. Of coz we never had the advantage of internet to get info so easily.
Also there weren't so many ADs and pre-owned shops like today.
My advise is.. RM 5000 doesn't buy you much nowadays.
Since you already have Seikos (they are good watches for their price points- I have 9 regular Seikos and some GS as well so I know what I'm talking abt)
I'd suggest you save up to abt RM 10K and buy a good pre-owned piece like a Rolex, IWC, Omega to start your journey.
Keep those for good and add on better pieces as you become more financially strong.
Just so you know I disposed of >40 watches over my entire watch journey losing a lot of money in the process and all those watches disposed, were bought BECAUSE I didn't know better then… about movements, abt the actual history of the so-called watch makers (mind you I didn't use the word 'manufactures') and I was taken in by all the advertising hype and 'star' endorsements in the magazines...
Just my opinion…. IF I were you , that is...
I wish I had someone to advise me when I first started…30 yrs ago
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hi,
Not to rub it in but all of us have been where you are now.
As a student all I wore were Seikos, Citizens, some Swiss brands that have gone bankrupt like Pagol, Titoni (not the same Titoni today) which was loaned to me by my brothers…
Having hindsight now I realize that I made many mistakes in my watch acquisition journey. Of coz we never had the advantage of internet to get info so easily.
Also there weren't so many Ads and pre-owned shops like today.
My advise is.. RM 5000 doesn't buy you much nowadays.
Since you already have Seikos (they are good watches for their price points- I have 9 regular Seikos and some GS) as well so I know what I'm talking abt)
I'd suggest you save up to abt RM 10K and buy a good pre-owned piece like a Rolex, IWC, Omega to start your journey.
Keep those for good and add on better pieces as you become more financially strong.
Just my opinion…. IF I were you , that is...
I wish I had someone to advise me when I first started...
I agree with you man! :Cheers:
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hi,
Not to rub it in but all of us have been where you are now.
As a student all I wore were Seikos, Citizens, some Swiss brands that have gone bankrupt like Pagol, Titoni (not the same Titoni today) and Omega which was loaned to me by my brothers…
Having hindsight now I realize that I made many mistakes in my watch acquisition journey. Of coz we never had the advantage of internet to get info so easily.
Also there weren't so many ADs and pre-owned shops like today.
My advise is.. RM 5000 doesn't buy you much nowadays.
Since you already have Seikos (they are good watches for their price points- I have 9 regular Seikos and some GS as well so I know what I'm talking abt)
I'd suggest you save up to abt RM 10K and buy a good pre-owned piece like a Rolex, IWC, Omega to start your journey.
Keep those for good and add on better pieces as you become more financially strong.
Just so you know I disposed of >40 watches over my entire watch journey losing a lot of money in the process and all those watches disposed, were bought BECAUSE I didn't know better then… about movements, abt the actual history of the so-called watch makers (mind you I didn't use the word 'manufactures') and I was taken in by all the advertising hype and 'star' endorsements in the magazines...
Just my opinion…. IF I were you , that is...
I wish I had someone to advise me when I first started…30 yrs ago
Really great advice from you, I should listen to your advice start off with a good valuable watch first, then continue my journey with the watches I personally like ;D
anyway, just wondering what are the watches that you disposed? ???
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I don't know your personal situation but when I was a student I spent what little money I had partying and chasing hot young poon. Not sure why you'd need a fancy watch - the girls don't care. You only get to be a student ONCE (unless you're Rodney Dangerfield). Don't waste your cash on watches!
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Buying a watch depends very much with what you want. Whether you want to sell it off at a later date or whether you want to keep it. If you plan on keeping it, get something you like. Go for resale value if only you want to trade it off later.
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What bro enkidu said just reminds me of 8th day of cny with all the non stop fire works.
Bing bing bang bang, Huat ah!
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LOL! Didnt know you could do so much with RM5000 these days. Much to learn we have from Enkidu Master. In this one strong is the Force.
Students these days and those of yore days are like a world apart. My watch then was probably RM50.00 only...
Mike, go get your G-Shock and G-spots! Have fun!
But if you really want to buy a nice watch to reward yourself, choose one that you fancy and fits your taste/character. You're still young... it's ok to follow your whims and indulge yourself once in a while (or thrice according to Enkidu).
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rm5k?
pre-owned omega?
brand new longines legend diver...after discounts of course :P
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What IF I insist to get a watch, would Maurice Lacroix be worthy my buy ?
Still considering, really good advices anyway. Hahaha :angel:
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rm5k?
pre-owned omega?
brand new longines legend diver...after discounts of course :P
pre-owned omega sounds nice!
where can i get good quality pre-owned watches that would be in my budget?
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talking from hindsight…
If your wrist is not too big, you can start off with the following pre-owned
Rolex 6694.. 34mm.. you can get a pre-owned for between 5-6K but its manual wind, no quick set date but it is a classic and will never go out of style.
IWC Mk XV or XVI abt 5-7K depending on condition.
Omega for RM 5-7K will probably be ETA based 2500 movement models, not the in-house 8500 or 9300
I didn't recommend a pre-owned Grand Seiko as most ppl can't accept a 'Seiko' costing 4-5 figures… but preowned is pretty hard to find anyways
That's another great watch where I own 6 pcs, bought brand new
The above is a good start, better than most of us when we started…
there are too many 'nice looking' watches but watches with solid proven in-house movements and that will never be out of style, are few and far in between….
rm5k?
pre-owned omega?
brand new longines legend diver...after discounts of course :P
pre-owned omega sounds nice!
where can i get good quality pre-owned watches that would be in my budget?
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What IF I insist to get a watch, would Maurice Lacroix be worthy my buy ?
Still considering, really good advices anyway. Hahaha :angel:
If you have made up your mind, probably pointless to argue otherwise
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What IF I insist to get a watch, would Maurice Lacroix be worthy my buy ?
Still considering, really good advices anyway. Hahaha :angel:
If you have made up your mind, probably pointless to argue otherwise
No, sir, please don't get me wrong. I have no intentions or whatsoever to argue at all. I'm here to plainly ask for a few advices on watches.
It really is good advices from everyone, and I really appreciate it.
I haven't made up my mind, I am considering on everybody's advice.
Just, IF I made up my mind at last to get a watch instead, which one is the best one for me to buy?
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Get a pre-owned Omega with your budget. easier to sell should you wanna upgrade in the future.
Dun listen to Master Enkidu, he is half man half animal, you never know when he is which half :Laughing_on_floor:
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I'd fo with none from your list to be brutally honest.
Instead, I'd go with either a) pre-owned Omega Seamasters or, b) Longines Legend Diver or, c) a pre-owned Ball engineer hydrocarbon
But that is just me if I had RM5,000.00 and I intend to buy a watch.
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Where can I get a quality and trustable pre-owned omega?
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rm5k?
pre-owned omega?
brand new longines legend diver...after discounts of course :P
pre-owned omega sounds nice!
where can i get good quality pre-owned watches that would be in my budget?
go for longines legend diver.... u wont regret
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rm5k?
pre-owned omega?
brand new longines legend diver...after discounts of course :P
pre-owned omega sounds nice!
where can i get good quality pre-owned watches that would be in my budget?
go for longines legend diver.... u wont regret
How much would it be?
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If you ask me , i will say go with a pre-owned Ball hydrocarbon series or the Engineer master diver 2 series , won't go wrong!.. Can show off in the cinema to the girls the tritium glow ..lol :Laughing_on_floor:
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If you ask me , i will say go with a pre-owned Ball hydrocarbon series or the Engineer master diver 2 series , won't go wrong!.. Can show off in the cinema to the girls the tritium glow ..lol :Laughing_on_floor:
Too sporty, not my cup of tea :P
I'm rather a modern-classic watch lover, like the Ball trainmaster eternity.
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If you ask me , i will say go with a pre-owned Ball hydrocarbon series or the Engineer master diver 2 series , won't go wrong!.. Can show off in the cinema to the girls the tritium glow ..lol :Laughing_on_floor:
Too sporty, not my cup of tea :P
I'm rather a modern-classic watch lover, like the Ball trainmaster eternity.
Then the LLD with date goes for 4.6k pre owned or about 5.5k new.. I have the same dilemma when I started...then I just read and look (repeat that many many times) before I finally buy my watch....
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Dun listen to Master Enkidu, he is half man half animal, you never know when he is which half :Laughing_on_floor:
Wow Eric, you didn't tell me you read the classics as well.... :laugh: [Add: As a rule of thumb, the bottom half below the tummy is always animal ;D]
Just to add, I too think the LLD or a vintage Omega (maybe a speedy??) will be good. Go for it and post lots of pics!!! :thumbsup:
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Dun listen to Master Enkidu, he is half man half animal, you never know when he is which half :Laughing_on_floor:
Wow Eric, you didn't tell me you read the classics as well.... :laugh: [Add: As a rule of thumb, the bottom half below the tummy is always animal ;D]
I knew :Laughing_on_floor:
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Where can I get a quality and trustable pre-owned omega?
Just PMed you....good luck.
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RM5,000 can buy alot of watches...
dont fall into myth of ROLEX is the only watch that wont loose money!
its not true! and misleading
if you buy a submariner, after payment, warranty card dated, bracelet adjusted, plastic wrap taken off, walking out from a shop =
few thousand dollar gone.
so buy a branded rm5k swiss watch, lost more than a rolex?
like many sifu said before, you buy a watch to wear.... thinking of selling it one day is like, before marry you think of divorce!
always buy thing you like, you feel like wearing it. after you wear for years, dont talk about losses, because you wear it, you use it !
as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
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as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
He is trying hard to catch up the lost moments :D
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RM5,000 can buy alot of watches...
dont fall into myth of ROLEX is the only watch that wont loose money!
its not true! and misleading
if you buy a submariner, after payment, warranty card dated, bracelet adjusted, plastic wrap taken off, walking out from a shop =
few thousand dollar gone.
so buy a branded rm5k swiss watch, lost more than a rolex?
like many sifu said before, you buy a watch to wear.... thinking of selling it one day is like, before marry you think of divorce!
always buy thing you like, you feel like wearing it. after you wear for years, dont talk about losses, because you wear it, you use it !
as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
I strongly agree to this ! :Cheers:
I guess I made my decision, too young for a Rolex anyway :P
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RM5,000 can buy alot of watches...
dont fall into myth of ROLEX is the only watch that wont loose money!
its not true! and misleading
if you buy a submariner, after payment, warranty card dated, bracelet adjusted, plastic wrap taken off, walking out from a shop =
few thousand dollar gone.
so buy a branded rm5k swiss watch, lost more than a rolex?
like many sifu said before, you buy a watch to wear.... thinking of selling it one day is like, before marry you think of divorce!
always buy thing you like, you feel like wearing it. after you wear for years, dont talk about losses, because you wear it, you use it !
as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
pity pity bro enkidu :Mad: :Mad: :Mad: :Mad: :Mad: :Mad: :HammerHead: :HammerHead: :HammerHead: :HammerHead:
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RM5,000 can buy alot of watches...
dont fall into myth of ROLEX is the only watch that wont loose money!
its not true! and misleading
if you buy a submariner, after payment, warranty card dated, bracelet adjusted, plastic wrap taken off, walking out from a shop =
few thousand dollar gone.
so buy a branded rm5k swiss watch, lost more than a rolex?
like many sifu said before, you buy a watch to wear.... thinking of selling it one day is like, before marry you think of divorce!
always buy thing you like, you feel like wearing it. after you wear for years, dont talk about losses, because you wear it, you use it !
as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
I strongly agree to this ! :Cheers:
I guess I made my decision, too young for a Rolex anyway :P
So which one are you going for? :Dancing_banana:
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Been there and done that, not on watches, but fashionable shirts and jeans. Waste a lot of working part-time hard-earned money during college days to impress others, didn't get much attentions from girls by dressing like a rock star though :Laughing_on_floor:
Looking back, If I would have do it all over again, I'll throw the RM5k into Fix Deposit, buy unit trusts, buy shares or like Enkidu said, spend it on travelling, as much as possible, a 'wild' and unforgettable 1.
Don't buy 'interim' watch just for the sake of want to own 1. Save up more and aim for 'grail' watch, else, spend the money on other things.
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RM5,000 can buy alot of watches...
dont fall into myth of ROLEX is the only watch that wont loose money!
its not true! and misleading
if you buy a submariner, after payment, warranty card dated, bracelet adjusted, plastic wrap taken off, walking out from a shop =
few thousand dollar gone.
so buy a branded rm5k swiss watch, lost more than a rolex?
like many sifu said before, you buy a watch to wear.... thinking of selling it one day is like, before marry you think of divorce!
always buy thing you like, you feel like wearing it. after you wear for years, dont talk about losses, because you wear it, you use it !
as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
I strongly agree to this ! :Cheers:
I guess I made my decision, too young for a Rolex anyway :P
So which one are you going for? :Dancing_banana:
Preferably the Maurice Lacroix pontos day-date as it is the one I liked the most in my list, also the one I enjoy looking at and wearing it the most as I had a look and wore it at the AD.
Maybe going to have a look at the LLD when I'm free, and I'll make my decision by then!
Been there and done that, not on watches, but fashionable shirts and jeans. Waste a lot of working part-time hard-earned money during college days to impress others, didn't get much attentions from girls by dressing like a rock star though :Laughing_on_floor:
Looking back, If I would have do it all over again, I'll throw the RM5k into Fix Deposit, buy unit trusts, buy shares or like Enkidu said, spend it on travelling, as much as possible, a 'wild' and unforgettable 1.
Don't buy 'interim' watch just for the sake of want to own 1. Save up more and aim for 'grail' watch, else, spend the money on other things.
I understand, but getting a watch is for the sake of enjoyment myself, not the sake of impressing others. I enjoy collecting watches, looking at them simply makes me happy.
I'm still young, I suppose, and this RM5000 is the money I work as a part-time for, and did not take a single cent from my savings, I do have quite an amount of savings for other purposes (not trying to broad lol), and of course a part of funding for my next watch, that would most probably be a Rolex sub when I'm a little more older! ;)
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RM5,000 can buy alot of watches...
dont fall into myth of ROLEX is the only watch that wont loose money!
its not true! and misleading
if you buy a submariner, after payment, warranty card dated, bracelet adjusted, plastic wrap taken off, walking out from a shop =
few thousand dollar gone.
so buy a branded rm5k swiss watch, lost more than a rolex?
like many sifu said before, you buy a watch to wear.... thinking of selling it one day is like, before marry you think of divorce!
always buy thing you like, you feel like wearing it. after you wear for years, dont talk about losses, because you wear it, you use it !
as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
I strongly agree to this ! :Cheers:
I guess I made my decision, too young for a Rolex anyway :P
So which one are you going for? :Dancing_banana:
Preferably the Maurice Lacroix pontos day-date as it is the one I liked the most in my list, also the one I enjoy looking at and wearing it the most as I had a look and wore it at the AD.
Maybe going to have a look at the LLD when I'm free, and I'll make my decision by then!
Been there and done that, not on watches, but fashionable shirts and jeans. Waste a lot of working part-time hard-earned money during college days to impress others, didn't get much attentions from girls by dressing like a rock star though :Laughing_on_floor:
Looking back, If I would have do it all over again, I'll throw the RM5k into Fix Deposit, buy unit trusts, buy shares or like Enkidu said, spend it on travelling, as much as possible, a 'wild' and unforgettable 1.
Don't buy 'interim' watch just for the sake of want to own 1. Save up more and aim for 'grail' watch, else, spend the money on other things.
I understand, but getting a watch is for the sake of enjoyment myself, not the sake of impressing others. I enjoy collecting watches, looking at them simply makes me happy.
I'm still young, I suppose, and this RM5000 is the money I work as a part-time for, and did not take a single cent from my savings, I do have quite an amount of savings for other purposes (not trying to broad lol), and of course a part of funding for my next watch, that would most probably be a Rolex sub when I'm a little more older! ;)
I hope you don't get the Maurice Lacroix for obvious reasons. wear g shock save up and get:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/594/0vmg.png) (https://imageshack.com/i/gi0vmgp)
The end.
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Been there and done that, not on watches, but fashionable shirts and jeans. Waste a lot of working part-time hard-earned money during college days to impress others, didn't get much attentions from girls by dressing like a rock star though :Laughing_on_floor:
Maybe you could have used the money to rent a Porsche every weekend instead??
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Been there and done that, not on watches, but fashionable shirts and jeans. Waste a lot of working part-time hard-earned money during college days to impress others, didn't get much attentions from girls by dressing like a rock star though :Laughing_on_floor:
Maybe you could have used the money to rent a Porsche every weekend instead??
Porsche is only good for starter and first impression, as things going 'well', one will wish the car is Toyota Unser :Laughing_on_floor:
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Been there and done that, not on watches, but fashionable shirts and jeans. Waste a lot of working part-time hard-earned money during college days to impress others, didn't get much attentions from girls by dressing like a rock star though :Laughing_on_floor:
Maybe you could have used the money to rent a Porsche every weekend instead??
Porsche is only good for starter and first impression, as things going 'well', one will wish the car is Toyota Unser :Laughing_on_floor:
I think Bro Enkidu's idea is to score hits, not start a football team...
:Laughing_on_floor:
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Preferably the Maurice Lacroix pontos day-date as it is the one I liked the most in my list, also the one I enjoy looking at and wearing it the most as I had a look and wore it at the AD.
Maybe going to have a look at the LLD when I'm free, and I'll make my decision by then!
I understand, but getting a watch is for the sake of enjoyment myself, not the sake of impressing others. I enjoy collecting watches, looking at them simply makes me happy.
I'm still young, I suppose, and this RM5000 is the money I work as a part-time for, and did not take a single cent from my savings, I do have quite an amount of savings for other purposes (not trying to broad lol), and of course a part of funding for my next watch, that would most probably be a Rolex sub when I'm a little more older! ;)
It seems you are quite determined to get the ML despite all the saucy and distracting advice we gave you. Your steadfast attitude is admirable. ML is a bona-fide watch making company and their watches are (as far as I know) quite good value for money. But maybe you should check out Sinn, Oris, the LLD as well before you pull the trigger. They should be within your budget also. Post lots of pics when you are done. :thumbsup:
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as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
When it comes to this kind of activity, it's never ever enough. :laugh: :laugh: When it comes to this kind of activity, you never regret what you did but only what you did not do. ;D But yea, I do have a regret list of girls I wish I had screwed all those years ago....
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....or maybe this G-Shock. Less than RM 900.. ;D
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/casiogshock1_zps3562c6c8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/casiogshock1_zps3562c6c8.jpg.html)
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hahaha...this thread has veered off into another saucy interesting matter....
Coming back to the issue at hand, I've always been of the opinion that there is no right or wrong decision in buying a watch.
As long as you KNOW EXACTLY what you are paying for, its your money, your joy, your 'shiok sendiri' factor that counts...you do not need to convince anyone else why you want to buy any watch even if 99.999999% of WIS say otherwise..
Forums are merely to share information and facts which are not always represented in advertisements....
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Isn't it a natural progression for a football player to score goals before he gets too old to play and ends up managing a football team?
I think Bro Enkidu's idea is to score hits, not start a football team...
:Laughing_on_floor:
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as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
When it comes to this kind of activity, it's never ever enough. :laugh: :laugh: When it comes to this kind of activity, you never regret what you did but only what you did not do. ;D But yea, I do have a regret list of girls I wish I had screwed all those years ago....
LMAO :Laughing_on_floor:
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as for Enkidu comment - sound like a regret man, who miss his schooling day not screwing enough girls.
When it comes to this kind of activity, it's never ever enough. :laugh: :laugh: When it comes to this kind of activity, you never regret what you did but only what you did not do. ;D But yea, I do have a regret list of girls I wish I had screwed all those years ago....
Who doesn't have that kind of list, bro Enkidu? :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:
But to our younger bro Mike here, please don't make your first major watch purchase a part of your regret list.
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Veering off-topic indeed... ;D
To the TS, I'd suggest you try on the ML watch you are thinking of. Take a few pictures and leave. If you find yourself thinking about it often and dream in your sleep having it on your wrist, then you should go back and pick it up. You want to be sure that you really want it and not just for those few moments in the shop.
:P
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....or maybe this G-Shock. Less than RM 900.. ;D
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/casiogshock1_zps3562c6c8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/casiogshock1_zps3562c6c8.jpg.html)
This la chun! :thumbsup:
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....or maybe this G-Shock. Less than RM 900.. ;D
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/casiogshock1_zps3562c6c8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/casiogshock1_zps3562c6c8.jpg.html)
This la chun! :thumbsup:
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Wow! Good read ;D
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Thank you everyone for your advices, well I just checked out the LLD at the AD today, really beautiful piece, and I'm now having a dilemma of the ML or the LLD :-\
Maybe to follow on bro dpkong's advice, and see which piece I am wearing in my dreams. Haha. Hope to show everyone my first luxury watch ASAP!