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Title: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: davidtth on December 18, 2013, 06:17:17 PM
Found out a few new model from Seiko Japan website

(http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/picture/JPEG_File/01-Grand_Seiko/SBGB001.jpg)

(http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/picture/JPEG_File/01-Grand_Seiko/SBGB003.jpg)

(http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/picture/JPEG_File/01-Grand_Seiko/SBGA099.jpg)

(http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/picture/JPEG_File/01-Grand_Seiko/SBGA101.jpg)

both chronograph comes with new movement with GMT function removed

sad that the pusher looks like Ananta series...  :-\
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: sshark on December 18, 2013, 06:20:08 PM
I prefer these pushers over the other. Btw, what's the model for the new 3-hands models?
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: JOS2012 on December 18, 2013, 06:45:16 PM
That's why there is something for everybody…

wonder why they removed the GMT, though
I personally find the chrono and GMT useful for travel….
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: davidtth on December 18, 2013, 07:35:59 PM
I prefer these pushers over the other. Btw, what's the model for the new 3-hands models?

they are SBGA099 (white) and SBGA101 (black)

Joseph, perhaps they trying to make entry level SD chrono, price wise are about 100,000 yen cheaper too
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: Godzillaz on December 19, 2013, 07:31:52 AM
Thanks for the update David.  :thumbsup:

If they make a version with contrasting sub dial it will be very interesting. I personally welcome a san gmt model but the dial doesn't speak to me.

It's a welcome direction though.

Regard
Tyler 
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: el118 on December 19, 2013, 07:42:50 AM
I find the chrono dial to be heavy on the right side ???
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: sshark on December 19, 2013, 08:27:06 AM
Though GMT is a pleasant function added to a watch, it makes setting the date more tedious. So, either one wears the watch "most of the time", a frequent cross time zone traveler or plainly prefer having the GMT hand, it is a small annoyance.

I agree with Godzillaz, contrasting sub dials would make the chronograph GS watches more interesting.

Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: dpkong on December 19, 2013, 01:11:09 PM
I find the chrono dial to be heavy on the right side ???

But it looks interesting to me..
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: jason_recliner on December 19, 2013, 03:43:50 PM
The chronos look really generic.  They look more like Seikos than Grand Seikos.
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: JOS2012 on December 19, 2013, 03:59:25 PM
At the risk of being labeled biased as I have the older SBGC003 and love it to bits, I agree with you...

The chronos look really generic.  They look more like Seikos than Grand Seikos.

The dial is asymmetrical vs symmetrical for a traditional tri-compax.

I find the chrono dial to be heavy on the right side ???

But it looks interesting to me..

The movement should based on the 9R86 from the SBGC001,003,005,007 looking at the location of the sub dials, PR and date but with the GMT hand removed.
The bracelet looks more utilitarian without the brushed and intermittent polished links.

For a comparison...

http://www.grand-seiko.com/collection/9r86-springdrive/SBGC003.html

and my own review

http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,10705.msg96648.html#msg96648
 
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: chrisyen on December 19, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
Oh... New design don't sing to me...
 :Blue:

Chrono too ananta alike!
Y not maintain the unique GS chrono hand?
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: Godzillaz on December 20, 2013, 06:32:03 AM
The old one look like oversize Rolex pusher, don't they?
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: JOS2012 on December 20, 2013, 06:38:47 AM
Totally different design.
Hard to explain in words. Better seen in action.
The chrono pusher is a 3 piece design.
Upon unscrewing there is an outer sleeve of the pusher that either retracts or covers the pusher button completely. Beautiful piece of engineering and concept and much more expensive to execute. Although I agree it is a bit big but when you see it in action you'll understand why.
I asked and got the answer from no less than their designer that the pusher design follows the pushers on Seiko's timing watches used for the Olympics, meant for repeated use and no jump when triggered. The function overrides the aesthetics.

The Daytona pushers are a 2 piece construction  (no outer sleeve) and less robust in comparison.
They are similar to the other screwed down pusher designs on the older Omegas and TH. No doubt being smaller they look more proportionate. Being small and more delicate, repeated screwing and unscrewing of the pushers' locks will see the threads wearing out. Ask Donald..

The old one look like oversize Rolex pusher, don't they?
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: Godzillaz on December 20, 2013, 08:16:35 AM
I have seen and operate the chrono buttons. I applause the functional design but can't shake the feeling they look like 3 "tong besi".

The mushroom pusher look more legit to the eyes but asymmetrical layout of the sub dial is testing me.  :(

How I wish for a bold but timeless design.

Regard
Tyler 

Totally different design.
Hard to explain in words. Better seen in action.
The chrono pusher is a 3 piece design.
Upon unscrewing there is an outer sleeve of the pusher that either retracts or covers the pusher button completely. Beautiful piece of engineering and concept and much more expensive to execute. Although I agree it is a bit big but when you see it in action you'll understand why.
I asked and got the answer from no less than their designer that the pusher design follows the pushers on Seiko's timing watches used for the Olympics, meant for repeated use and no jump when triggered. The function overrides the aesthetics.

The Daytona pushers are a 2 piece construction  (no outer sleeve) and less robust in comparison.
They are similar to the other screwed down pusher designs on the older Omegas and TH. No doubt being smaller they look more proportionate. Being small and more delicate, repeated screwing and unscrewing of the pushers' locks will see the threads wearing out. Ask Donald..

The old one look like oversize Rolex pusher, don't they?
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: Enkidu on December 20, 2013, 08:19:28 AM
Oh... New design don't sing to me...
 :Blue:

Chrono too ananta alike!
Y not maintain the unique GS chrono hand?

The "stock photos" issued by Seiko website and brochures are normally very cartoon like and do not do justice to their watches. In terms of issuing promo materials, Seiko is really behind the Swiss. IMHO we should wait till we see some live photos or (better still) some real pieces before deciding.. :laugh:
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: JOS2012 on December 20, 2013, 08:36:30 AM
You're spot on where GS stock photos are concerned...
The actual watch in most cases look far better in the metal..

The "stock photos" issued by Seiko website and brochures are normally very cartoon like and do not do justice to their watches. In terms of issuing promo materials, Seiko is really behind the Swiss. IMHO we should wait till we see some live photos or (better still) some real pieces before deciding.. :laugh:

Ok, I'll use tong besi to describe them from now on.. :Laughing_on_floor:
I agree and have mentioned many times that the Swiss, Germans and French will almost always come up with better designs but in terms of execution and details GS is a step ahead.. in its class of course.

I have seen and operate the chrono buttons. I applause the functional design but can't shake the feeling they look like 3 "tong besi".
The mushroom pusher look more legit to the eyes but asymmetrical layout of the sub dial is testing me.  :(
How I wish for a bold but timeless design.
Regard
Tyler 

Totally different design.
Hard to explain in words. Better seen in action.
The chrono pusher is a 3 piece design.
Upon unscrewing there is an outer sleeve of the pusher that either retracts or covers the pusher button completely. Beautiful piece of engineering and concept and much more expensive to execute. Although I agree it is a bit big but when you see it in action you'll understand why.
I asked and got the answer from no less than their designer that the pusher design follows the pushers on Seiko's timing watches used for the Olympics, meant for repeated use and no jump when triggered. The function overrides the aesthetics.

The Daytona pushers are a 2 piece construction  (no outer sleeve) and less robust in comparison.
They are similar to the other screwed down pusher designs on the older Omegas and TH. No doubt being smaller they look more proportionate. Being small and more delicate, repeated screwing and unscrewing of the pushers' locks will see the threads wearing out. Ask Donald..

The old one look like oversize Rolex pusher, don't they?
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: davidtth on December 20, 2013, 02:41:34 PM
yes photo may vary from actual watch, but i'm more excited this two new model to come soon...

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/DavidNikon/seiko_zpsd73aaab2.jpg)

not LE, but not sure will be selling locally or not... 6R movement hardly seen here  :(

time to prepare making hole in pocket  ;D
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: euclidorus on December 20, 2013, 08:39:22 PM
Thought some hi-rez pictures (sourced from jap site oomiya) will show off the watch better than the lousy 2-D pictures supplied by Seiko. I reserve judgement until I get to see and hold it in the metal. I like what seems to be sapphire bezel. Sub-dial layout is similar to current chrono/gmt models but with double ring, so the dial is not much of a surprise. Prefer this mushroom pusher.

(http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o698/euclidorus/RIMG0901_zpsaf60caa3.jpg) (http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/euclidorus/media/RIMG0901_zpsaf60caa3.jpg.html)

(http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o698/euclidorus/RIMG0899_zpsebfcb1c8.jpg) (http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/euclidorus/media/RIMG0899_zpsebfcb1c8.jpg.html)

Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: 7thfort on December 21, 2013, 05:34:18 AM
"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder"
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: chrisyen on December 21, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
Now it more like GS with these photos...  :Laughing_on_floor:

Sapphire bezel insert, the 3d polished markers n hands...

 :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: jason_recliner on December 22, 2013, 12:37:52 AM
Oh... New design don't sing to me...
 :Blue:

Chrono too ananta alike!
Y not maintain the unique GS chrono hand?

The "stock photos" issued by Seiko website and brochures are normally very cartoon like and do not do justice to their watches. In terms of issuing promo materials, Seiko is really behind the Swiss. IMHO we should wait till we see some live photos or (better still) some real pieces before deciding.. :laugh:

Yep.  Good point.  It looks damn fine in the pics above.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: JPSP on December 22, 2013, 09:25:10 AM
just called local AD and they don't carry SBGA099....can anyone advise me how/where to get it? any reliable source? is the model available in Japan only?

thanks guys
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: davidtth on December 22, 2013, 10:13:26 AM
Hi James, dun think local AD will receive it yet, most probably 1Q of 2014, perhaps only Japan Wako start selling it :)
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: JOS2012 on December 22, 2013, 02:39:59 PM
Wako didn't have it when I was there during 1st week of December.
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: davidtth on December 23, 2013, 02:03:37 PM
behold, another GMT !

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/DavidNikon/1465329_10202510484990354_1183321286_n_zps79d7b58f.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/DavidNikon/media/1465329_10202510484990354_1183321286_n_zps79d7b58f.jpg.html)

looks good for the chrono  :o

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/DavidNikon/1424559_10202510457909677_1083224625_n_zps366f313e.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/DavidNikon/media/1424559_10202510457909677_1083224625_n_zps366f313e.jpg.html)
*all pix sourced from net, copyright to respective photo owner :)
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: JOS2012 on December 23, 2013, 06:50:21 PM
David,
I can't find the hi-beat GMT model in the 2014 brochure..
Can you provide me the model number?
Thnks



behold, another GMT !

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/DavidNikon/1465329_10202510484990354_1183321286_n_zps79d7b58f.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/DavidNikon/media/1465329_10202510484990354_1183321286_n_zps79d7b58f.jpg.html)

looks good for the chrono  :o

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/DavidNikon/1424559_10202510457909677_1083224625_n_zps366f313e.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/DavidNikon/media/1424559_10202510457909677_1083224625_n_zps366f313e.jpg.html)
*all pix sourced from net, copyright to respective photo owner :)
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: davidtth on December 23, 2013, 06:54:33 PM
David,
I can't find the hi-beat GMT model in the 2014 brochure..
Can you provide me the model number?
Thnks

Joseph, cant find, i grab the pix from GS facebook page, no model number was indicated  :-\
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: Dickson Lim on December 24, 2013, 12:36:56 AM
Wako didn't have it when I was there during 1st week of December.

I was shopping around GS for the past few days in Japan. WAKO and takashimaya in Osaka do have them in stock. I believe the first batch had already been released to those bigger shops.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: sypuah on January 07, 2014, 10:35:17 AM
Haiz ... not like GS design except the diver model.
Title: Re: New Grand Seiko model 2013/14
Post by: davidtth on July 02, 2014, 08:53:14 AM
just to share, interesting event how i wish i was there to play around with the dial  ;D

Grand Seiko Owner's Salon 2014

http://seiko.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-876/pi-6481923/ti-938058/s-0/t-seiko-grand-seiko-owners-salon-2014/