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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: ndtaan on October 10, 2013, 09:37:48 PM
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Hi all Panerai sifus.
I really need your help.
This will be my first Panerai.
What's your proposed model and why do you think that's ok.
Appreciate all your input and opinions.
Thank you so much.....
ps. even a pre owned one that cost more than 20k new,but now going for around 20k is also considered.
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Stick to finding the used GMT2c...
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Stick to finding the used GMT2c...
Thanks for the advise.
I've never own a Panerai before and I really like to have one.
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pam000 - zero is hero, u get the logo on the dial
pam005 - logo with small second at 9
pam 111 - sandwich dial and see through caseback showing a well finished movement, cosc
pam 112 - same as 111 but without a small second, non cosc.... but u get 3, 6, 9, 12
pam 176- like 112 in titanium case
pam 177- like 111 in titanium case
pam 24 - pam with diver bezel, auto
pam 25 - same with 24 with titanium case and grid texture dial
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If you have an iPad, you can download the Panerai app. If not you can check out their website.
I would personally recommend you check out their contemporary (with date or chronograph complications) range of their catalogue. A few of them should fall under your budget.
Have fun!
:Cheers:
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Thanks,guys.
I'll get down to checking up the models.
Have a nice day!!
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Downloaded the IOS panerai app , > 500MB , but welll worth it!! :thumbsup:
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After figure one which model you like the best way to confirm is to drop by some watch shop. Picture and watch on your wrist may tell different story.
Good luck.
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After figure one which model you like the best way to confirm is to drop by some watch shop. Picture and watch on your wrist may tell different story.
Good luck.
congratulation on ur new toys 422
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After figure one which model you like the best way to confirm is to drop by some watch shop. Picture and watch on your wrist may tell different story.
Good luck.
Yes, you are definately right about this , was previously aiming for a 1950 case specifically the 312 , tried it on & doesn't look right on my wrist compared to the 1940 case & the Radiomir is alright tho but i wanted my 1st pam to hv a crown protector. Also 47mm definately doesnt go very well with my small wrist. :Blue:
So TS you'll definately need to go a the AD to try it out yourself.
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After figure one which model you like the best way to confirm is to drop by some watch shop. Picture and watch on your wrist may tell different story.
Good luck.
Yes, you are definately right about this , was previously aiming for a 1950 case specifically the 312 , tried it on & doesn't look right on my wrist compared to the 1940 case & the Radiomir is alright tho but i wanted my 1st pam to hv a crown protector. Also 47mm definately doesnt go very well with my small wrist. :Blue:
So TS you'll definately need to go a the AD to try it out yourself.
Thank you so much guys.
You guys make my purchase so much more enjoyable.
I'll be going to Berjaya Times Square this weekend.
Heard there's a shop on the 6th level with quite a selection of Panerai
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176
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check the difference between different casing style---Luminor, Radiomir or Sub..these are the 3 general ones to start off with...
then check out if you want painted or sandwich dial
then gotta ask if want base 2 hands model or you prefer some complications ....second subdial, GMT, date
...quite long story also.... ;D
All the best....
Let me make it easier (or harder) for you.. ;D
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,6450.0.html
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Thanks pexus,CLK1213.
I think I've zoom in on the pam292.
I like the classic look and the black ceramic case.
What's your take on this model?
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292 is a good choice, more so if you could find the older J series with SLC on dial.
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292 is a good choice, more so if you could find the older J series with SLC on dial.
i've seen one with the "O" series.
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292 with SLC is J series and the price is above 20k
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292 with SLC is J series and the price is above 20k
20-25k or higher at 25-30k?
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Downloaded the IOS panerai app , > 500MB , but welll worth it!! :thumbsup:
Just downloaded it on ipad,fantastic!!
thank you :thumbsup:
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292 with SLC is J series and the price is above 20k
20-25k or higher at 25-30k?
You may do a search. Should be on 25-30k range.
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292 with SLC is J series and the price is above 20k
20-25k or higher at 25-30k?
You may do a search. Should be on 25-30k range.
oh,the "O" series ,they quoted me 22k
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After figure one which model you like the best way to confirm is to drop by some watch shop. Picture and watch on your wrist may tell different story.
Good luck.
congratulation on ur new toys 422
thanks bro. :thumbsup:
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After figure one which model you like the best way to confirm is to drop by some watch shop. Picture and watch on your wrist may tell different story.
Good luck.
Yes, you are definately right about this , was previously aiming for a 1950 case specifically the 312 , tried it on & doesn't look right on my wrist compared to the 1940 case & the Radiomir is alright tho but i wanted my 1st pam to hv a crown protector. Also 47mm definately doesnt go very well with my small wrist. :Blue:
So TS you'll definately need to go a the AD to try it out yourself.
Yup normally Radiomir are big size watch. Check out other more luminor line.
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292 with SLC is J series and the price is above 20k
20-25k or higher at 25-30k?
You may do a search. Should be on 25-30k range.
oh,the "O" series ,they quoted me 22k
ndtaan, check out more shop. I remember BSC having one shop do carry a lot of PAM also you can check that out.
Another place should be Sunday Giza. Good luck.
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Try to get a use PAM 390 . Hold it's value pretty well. Nice tabacco dials too. Here is a review made by our merchant and a friend of mine too .
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,4953.0.html Happy Hunting and welcome to the Pam club !
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292 with SLC is J series and the price is above 20k
20-25k or higher at 25-30k?
You may do a search. Should be on 25-30k range.
oh,the "O" series ,they quoted me 22k
ndtaan, check out more shop. I remember BSC having one shop do carry a lot of PAM also you can check that out.
Another place should be Sunday Giza. Good luck.
Thanks eltontan,
I'll keep posted.
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Try to get a use PAM 390 . Hold it's value pretty well. Nice tabacco dials too. Here is a review made by our merchant and a friend of mine too .
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,4953.0.html Happy Hunting and welcome to the Pam club !
Thanks.
Actually I've contemplating about getting a Panerai for quite awhile now.
But it's actually now after being active in this forum that I've finally get myself "wet".
Many thanks to all you guys who took the time to give me your opinions and advise.
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All the best with the hunt. Can't go wrong with most of the models in the Historic range, but you have to enjoy winding your watch (on a daily basis). As for the 292, it is ceramic case and the crown is also ceramic. It is scratch resistant, not crack resistant, so do be careful if you get the watch.
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Just to add more poison into u... :laugh: :laugh:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/nasa299/my%20watches/Panerai292_zps07734543.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/nasa299/media/my%20watches/Panerai292_zps07734543.jpg.html)
My 292 says hello.... :Cheers:
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Just to add more poison into u... :laugh: :laugh:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b636/nasa299/my%20watches/Panerai292_zps07734543.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/nasa299/media/my%20watches/Panerai292_zps07734543.jpg.html)
My 292 says hello.... :Cheers:
This is too much!!! :Praying: :Praying: :Praying: :Praying:
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All the best with the hunt. Can't go wrong with most of the models in the Historic range, but you have to enjoy winding your watch (on a daily basis). As for the 292, it is ceramic case and the crown is also ceramic. It is scratch resistant, not crack resistant, so do be careful if you get the watch.
Saw a post in a HK Penarai topic, an owner paying a premium to replace the crack crown, he was mentioned the crown was crack by itself without sign of knocking. Really think twice for ceramic stuff.
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All the best with the hunt. Can't go wrong with most of the models in the Historic range, but you have to enjoy winding your watch (on a daily basis). As for the 292, it is ceramic case and the crown is also ceramic. It is scratch resistant, not crack resistant, so do be careful if you get the watch.
Saw a post in a HK Penarai topic, an owner paying a premium to replace the crack crown, he was mentioned the crown was crack by itself without sign of knocking. Really think twice for ceramic stuff.
I guess owner don't admit he bang it
Or mayb he didn't notice
Ceramic is hard...
Yes is breakable.... Can b scratched by harder material as well... Diamond... N dog teeth ( my Fren experienced this with his top gun)
But if a force that can break the ceramic case, I believe if it is steel also... It will be dented badly!
Dent is non repairable as well
Nothing perfect... Looking after our love on wrist also show u r really appreciating watches
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All the best with the hunt. Can't go wrong with most of the models in the Historic range, but you have to enjoy winding your watch (on a daily basis). As for the 292, it is ceramic case and the crown is also ceramic. It is scratch resistant, not crack resistant, so do be careful if you get the watch.
Saw a post in a HK Penarai topic, an owner paying a premium to replace the crack crown, he was mentioned the crown was crack by itself without sign of knocking. Really think twice for ceramic stuff.
I guess owner don't admit he bang it
Or mayb he didn't notice
Ceramic is hard...
Yes is breakable.... Can b scratched by harder material as well... Diamond... N dog teeth ( my Fren experienced this with his top gun)
But if a force that can break the ceramic case, I believe if it is steel also... It will be dented badly!
Dent is non repairable as well
Nothing perfect... Looking after our love on wrist also show u r really appreciating watches
Make sense, buy and wear it with care :Cheers:
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But if a force that can break the ceramic case, I believe if it is steel also... It will be dented badly!
Dent is non repairable as well
Actually steel cases not too bad if dented or badly scratched. There are techniques to restore the case. You can use laser weld and lapping grinder machine.
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But if a force that can break the ceramic case, I believe if it is steel also... It will be dented badly!
Dent is non repairable as well
Actually steel cases not too bad if dented or badly scratched. There are techniques to restore the case. You can use laser weld and lapping grinder machine.
Saw a post from HK mentioned about laser weld, but is this technique available in KL?
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any idea how much it will cost to replace the glass on a 177 ?
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The PVD and Ceramic black watches may be nice looking and all that but they are nowhere near maintainable as traditional chrome/brushed steel watches. For these, Cape Cod cloth and fine nail polish board is all you need for minor touch ups, something not so easy for the black watches. A factor to consider if the watch you plan to get is a "wearer".
:'(
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When I was looking for my first Panerai - I have decided to go for the classic DNA of Panerai with crown guard and simple dial. Maybe PAM111 or PAM112 for sandwich dial or PAM390 for sausage dial. And, a little complication for the second Panerai.
My First.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7411/9755579214_79466ace4b_z.jpg)
My Second.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5550/9811573884_a2c330e15b_z.jpg)
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try hit the base models.
"Less is More"
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Well, if you could stretch your budget a little you should be able to get an absolute modern classic in the PAM 372 (biased as i just got mine), on the secondary market. Trust me, you wouldn't regret it! Some visual encouragement, LOVE IT! Definitely the base model to go for.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/garethxh/PAM%20372/20131120_085703_zpsfa246b31.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/garethxh/media/PAM%20372/20131120_085703_zpsfa246b31.jpg.html)
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/garethxh/PAM%20372/20131120_152220_zps45d60499.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/garethxh/media/PAM%20372/20131120_152220_zps45d60499.jpg.html)
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get thos base model like some of members mentioned like pam 111,112, 0, 5 I think those are now easier to get compared to few years ago where grey dealer are selling at premium and ad are hogging those stock for their spendy customers
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Hi all Panerai sifus.
I really need your help.
This will be my first Panerai.
What's your proposed model and why do you think that's ok.
Appreciate all your input and opinions.
Thank you so much.....
ps. even a pre owned one that cost more than 20k new,but now going for around 20k is also considered.
First get yourself thoroughly confused with ALL the models on offer then work through the labyrinth of designs before deciding. I presume once you get bitten by the bug you will be going for a second Pam then a third....... and until your gf/ wife screams at you....you wake up to reality and realize perhaps the obsession is not worth it after all ! Or perhaps you are forced to make hard choices, search your soul as you are constantly between a rock and a hard place.
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Hi all Panerai sifus.
I really need your help.
This will be my first Panerai.
What's your proposed model and why do you think that's ok.
Appreciate all your input and opinions.
Thank you so much.....
ps. even a pre owned one that cost more than 20k new,but now going for around 20k is also considered.
First get yourself thoroughly confused with ALL the models on offer then work through the labyrinth of designs before deciding.
I assum that is the difficult part that the thread owner is seeking help. many models are too "look a like"
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get thos base model like some of members mentioned like pam 111,112, 0, 5 I think those are now easier to get compared to few years ago where grey dealer are selling at premium and ad are hogging those stock for their spendy customers
i've checked out Jam Kaca and Ikhlas and was told the waiting list for 000 and 005 started since about a year ago :Scolding:
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get thos base model like some of members mentioned like pam 111,112, 0, 5 I think those are now easier to get compared to few years ago where grey dealer are selling at premium and ad are hogging those stock for their spendy customers
i've checked out Jam Kaca and Ikhlas and was told the waiting list for 000 and 005 started since about a year ago :Scolding:
This kind of Pam (000 & 005) will pop us once in a while in the pre own market be it from gray dealer of from direct owner. Just need to be aware from time to time. Unless u only want the new one there's nothing much u can do..
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Dear raymond,
If i have 20k to shop a panerai, i would wait for a while,
The pam 510 is coming -
A new inhouse caliber P5000, 8 days power reserve, luminor -
I think its really value for money.
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Dear raymond,
If i have 20k to shop a panerai, i would wait for a while,
The pam 510 is coming -
A new inhouse caliber P5000, 8 days power reserve, luminor -
I think its really value for money.
I think u can't get it for less than rm30k..Even for pre own it will be more than rm 20k.. (& still have to wait some more)..
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Dear raymond,
If i have 20k to shop a panerai, i would wait for a while,
The pam 510 is coming -
A new inhouse caliber P5000, 8 days power reserve, luminor -
I think its really value for money.
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Its cheap for a Panerai with 8 days movement....Is it really that price?? :o
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Dear raymond,
If i have 20k to shop a panerai, i would wait for a while,
The pam 510 is coming -
A new inhouse caliber P5000, 8 days power reserve, luminor -
I think its really value for money.
the cheapest 8 days PR (PAM346) is currently around 44k :-X
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hmmm... found a UK pricelist dated April 2013 from paneristi.com... seems like he's right... the PAM510 is 5000pounds :o
handwound 8 days PR :Dancing_banana:
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get thos base model like some of members mentioned like pam 111,112, 0, 5 I think those are now easier to get compared to few years ago where grey dealer are selling at premium and ad are hogging those stock for their spendy customers
i've checked out Jam Kaca and Ikhlas and was told the waiting list for 000 and 005 started since about a year ago :Scolding:
This kind of Pam (000 & 005) will pop us once in a while in the pre own market be it from gray dealer of from direct owner. Just need to be aware from time to time. Unless u only want the new one there's nothing much u can do..
prefer new one ;D
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When I was looking for my first Panerai - I have decided to go for the classic DNA of Panerai with crown guard and simple dial. Maybe PAM111 or PAM112 for sandwich dial or PAM390 for sausage dial. And, a little complication for the second Panerai.
My First.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7411/9755579214_79466ace4b_z.jpg)
My Second.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5550/9811573884_a2c330e15b_z.jpg)
Hi what's the difference between 111 and 112?
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Hi what's the difference between 111 and 112?
This should help...
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/11492183723_d475f1dc1b_z.jpg)
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Hi what's the difference between 111 and 112?
This should help...
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/11492183723_d475f1dc1b_z.jpg)
112 vs 111
black strap vs tan strap
no small second vs small second at 9
non cosc vs cosc
price lower vs price higher
luminor base vs luminor marina (marina laser printed on dial)
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All collection watch are really impressive and nice look. and All watch are advance feature for alarm .
Thanks for providing information.
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How much is the 112 going for ?
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292 is my choice too! :Cheers: of cos, there are many other nice ones.
I find the guys at Giza very helpful. They helped my wife fix her strap for free. Didnt buy any watches from them, just straps. ;D
they have some pams there.
happy hunting!