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Title: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: fireken on September 26, 2013, 06:32:31 PM
I was just wondering why is panerai so famous? As i look at the brand, most of model look similar with no much different. I can't even differentiate what model is the watch just by looking.

Mind sharing what so special about panerai?  :-\
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: dpkong on September 26, 2013, 06:36:43 PM
Stirring the hornet's nest? Try using the search function here and read a few threads, then you'll know why it's famous
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: TheHobbit on September 26, 2013, 07:28:38 PM
Popular or famous?

Can't answer for the rest, but I like them because I like my watches large due to the fact that I have a large wrist (read fat). I like my watch toolish and robust and perhaps even value for money. Panerai seems to fit the bill (at that time). I like the fact that it use to be limited in production numbers, hard to get, and a military secret. Ok maybe not the last one. I like the simple dial layout, minimalist in approach and easy to read at a glance. Sadly, all these are no longer true of the brand. As such, I no longer buy them new but rather preloved and only specific models. I still like the watches they make, but they are moving up the food chain. However there is a replacement in Tudor. They (Tudor) are currently at where Panerai was back in 1997/1998.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: chrisyen on September 26, 2013, 08:20:02 PM
Famous due to Stallone wear it
It's a Hollywood thing
All the big guy in Hollywood wear it
So man!

The design play a part, simple, military, highly legible.... N It's one hell of a big macho watch when the world still on small watches!

On top of that, the strong DNA of its luminor crown guard on cushion case... U can tell this is a Pam from 10m away....
So u will fell in love to it.... Or just hate it!

Then when it bcom popular, the demand is higher then supply....
Watch kaki ard the world knowing its presence Bcoz, it never on the display of any AD!

It was like steel Daytona those day....
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: dpkong on September 26, 2013, 09:42:39 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: fireken on September 26, 2013, 10:25:54 PM
Dpkong: No interest of stirring the hornet. Just wondering what make consumer crazy for the brand. It could be either history, movement, design, pricing, limited production or others. I have go through the forum, i found IWC, Omega and especially Tudor have some interesting model but not Panerai. Yet, i still c many Panerai watch posted and wanted to know why . There must be a reason people choose it.

I do agree with chrisyen. The luminor crown guard do look good and is an attention grabber. :) i love that too.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: dpkong on September 26, 2013, 10:59:38 PM
Dpkong: No interest of stirring the hornet. Just wondering what make consumer crazy for the brand. It could be either history, movement, design, pricing, limited production or others. I have go through the forum, i found IWC, Omega and especially Tudor have some interesting model but not Panerai. Yet, i still c many Panerai watch posted and wanted to know why . There must be a reason people choose it.

I do agree with chrisyen. The luminor crown guard do look good and is an attention grabber. :) i love that too.

Among the above choices, I'd say it's others

Most people chose it because it's Panerai. Just like how everyone wanted a Pajero in the early 90s..

Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: latuktua on September 26, 2013, 11:00:40 PM
For a newbie like me,while lurking for my 1st luxury watch the salesman let me tried pam372 and i strictly fall in luv at the first sight...its so simple but yet gorgeous..i dont know n dont care about movement so for me it has the x factor,unluckily i dont grow money tree at my backyard..
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: latuktua on September 26, 2013, 11:33:42 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?

Hahaha...it happens to me except i'm not cash rich buyer  :HammerHead:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Yikkie on September 26, 2013, 11:41:24 PM
Panerai is sooo famous that it could use unfinished movements in their watches and fans are still happy because it could one day become a priceless collectible. Soo power!  ;D
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: TheHobbit on September 26, 2013, 11:59:41 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?

I figure this happens across the board with all brands, no?
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: TheHobbit on September 27, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Panerai is sooo famous that it could use unfinished movements in their watches and fans are still happy because it could one day become a priceless collectible. Soo power!  ;D

Now that we have establish why Panerai is so famous, we now need to establish why it is so popular.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: kenixck on September 27, 2013, 04:37:55 AM


unwanted mistakes/blunder is the real "limited edition"

My personal "chart"

back when I'm 20's - I wanted a TAG, (I can't afford)
now I'm 30's, I want a Panerai. (I cant' afford, I mean I could but would require sacrificing many other things)
But when I'm 50's, I "would" want a Rolex.

Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: davidtth on September 27, 2013, 08:20:47 AM
all i can say is, PAM watch is very nice looking, worth it or not is up to individual

to be actual all watch are over priced compare from their cost... :p
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: CKL1213 on September 27, 2013, 10:59:31 AM
Oh panerai, watch snob liked it so much
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Empty Tree 8 on September 27, 2013, 12:36:08 PM
Always a nice topic this.....but fingers crossed the Condor don't swoop in!  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: JOS2012 on September 27, 2013, 12:38:39 PM
y not?
I voted this topic 'Topic of the Year 2012'

Can't find a topic to vote 'Topic of the Year 2013' yet so this topic might yet get voted again.. :Laughing_on_floor:


Always a nice topic this.....but fingers crossed the Condor don't swoop in!  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Empty Tree 8 on September 27, 2013, 12:42:24 PM
y not?
I voted this topic 'Topic of the Year 2012'

Can't find a topic to vote 'Topic of the Year 2013' yet so this topic might yet get voted again.. :Laughing_on_floor:


Always a nice topic this.....but fingers crossed the Condor don't swoop in!  ;) ;) ;)

My last visit to my cardiologist had him chastening me that 2013 has yielded  enough excitement...... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: swleong on September 27, 2013, 05:14:45 PM
Why PAM famous?

 - Due to watch magazines, celebrities, watch forums...etc

Why PAM popular?

 - Due to strap changing, good resale value, good looking...etc
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Everdying on September 27, 2013, 05:34:40 PM
cos they have a 'support' group so ppl can come out of the closet and dont feel embarassed anymore :P
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: RaymondT on September 27, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
tried on the 16610 the other day & thought it was what I always wanted , until I put on a 176 , totally fell in love with it , tho manual winding n plain jane . I guess it's just the power of attraction :)
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: fireken on September 27, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
tried on the 16610 the other day & thought it was what I always wanted , until I put on a 176 , totally fell in love with it , tho manual winding n plain jane . I guess it's just the power of attraction :)

I don't think power attraction only apply PAM.. Basically all watch have the power of attraction.. Just a like Tudor Pelagos, when i put it in my hand.. totally fell in love with it..  ;D

Unfortunately, just not enough fund to bring it back. :P
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Pajero on September 30, 2013, 12:30:24 AM
I like it because it is unique.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: sidestreaker on September 30, 2013, 10:55:22 AM
I was just wondering why is panerai so famous? As i look at the brand, most of model look similar with no much different. I can't even differentiate what model is the watch just by looking.

Mind sharing what so special about panerai?  :-\

I guess if you make just one thing and you make it good, customer will always come back for it.

Just like that uncle that has been frying cha kui tiau for the past 30 years on the street, people will drive more than 1 hrs just to eat there.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: STT1987 on September 30, 2013, 12:29:35 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?
If you are presenting this as fact, I'd like to see some real marketing research info to back this up. It's just an opinion on your part, albeit a common one held against "brand x" you are prejudiced against. This canard by the way does not reflect on the merit (or the lack of) of the watch itself. I've heard the same applied to Rolex.

In fact, this accusation can be leveled at about just every mass marketed luxury brand.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Enkidu on September 30, 2013, 01:22:59 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?
If you are presenting this as fact, I'd like to see some real marketing research info to back this up. It's just an opinion on your part, albeit a common one held against "brand x" you are prejudiced against. This canard by the way does not reflect on the merit (or the lack of) of the watch itself. I've heard the same applied to Rolex.

In fact, this accusation can be leveled at about just every mass marketed luxury brand.

Whether Donald was presenting his statement as a fact or just his opinion, it does not really matter. He was presenting it as a watch hobbyist and surely that in itself is good enough for this site, which is primarily a site for watch hobbyists. Real marketing research? Ahem, ahem...I think you are on the wrong site buddy....  ;)

In any case, I believe Donald was just adding to what Chris was writing. Don't believe he was referring to any specific brand.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: harkensng on September 30, 2013, 01:29:24 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?
If you are presenting this as fact, I'd like to see some real marketing research info to back this up. It's just an opinion on your part, albeit a common one held against "brand x" you are prejudiced against. This canard by the way does not reflect on the merit (or the lack of) of the watch itself. I've heard the same applied to Rolex.

In fact, this accusation can be leveled at about just every mass marketed luxury brand.

Whether Donald was presenting his statement as a fact or just his opinion, it does not really matter. He was presenting it as a watch hobbyist and surely that in itself is good enough for this site, which is primarily a site for watch hobbyists. Real marketing research? Ahem, ahem...I think you are on the wrong site buddy....  ;)

In any case, I believe Donald was just adding to what Chris was writing. Don't believe he was referring to any specific brand.

 :Cheers: well said
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: STT1987 on September 30, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?
If you are presenting this as fact, I'd like to see some real marketing research info to back this up. It's just an opinion on your part, albeit a common one held against "brand x" you are prejudiced against. This canard by the way does not reflect on the merit (or the lack of) of the watch itself. I've heard the same applied to Rolex.

In fact, this accusation can be leveled at about just every mass marketed luxury brand.

Whether Donald was presenting his statement as a fact or just his opinion, it does not really matter. He was presenting it as a watch hobbyist and surely that in itself is good enough for this site, which is primarily a site for watch hobbyists. Real marketing research? Ahem, ahem...I think you are on the wrong site buddy....  ;)

In any case, I believe Donald was just adding to what Chris was writing. Don't believe he was referring to any specific brand.

 :Cheers: well said

As watch hobbyists we are all better served by real information. Not innuendos, falsehoods, half truths, exaggerations and outright biased opionions masquerading as "fact". But this is the internet, feel free to distort whatever I have stated to serve whatever agenda you have in mind.... Buddy... ( <--- sarcasm pointer for the obtuse)
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: harkensng on September 30, 2013, 01:53:44 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?
If you are presenting this as fact, I'd like to see some real marketing research info to back this up. It's just an opinion on your part, albeit a common one held against "brand x" you are prejudiced against. This canard by the way does not reflect on the merit (or the lack of) of the watch itself. I've heard the same applied to Rolex.

In fact, this accusation can be leveled at about just every mass marketed luxury brand.

Whether Donald was presenting his statement as a fact or just his opinion, it does not really matter. He was presenting it as a watch hobbyist and surely that in itself is good enough for this site, which is primarily a site for watch hobbyists. Real marketing research? Ahem, ahem...I think you are on the wrong site buddy....  ;)

In any case, I believe Donald was just adding to what Chris was writing. Don't believe he was referring to any specific brand.

 :Cheers: well said

As watch hobbyists we are all better served by real information. Not innuendos, falsehoods, half truths, exaggerations and outright biased opionions masquerading as "fact". But this is the internet, feel free to distort whatever I have stated to serve whatever agenda you have in mind.... Buddy... ( <--- sarcasm pointer for the obtuse)

Chill bro. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. No need to use such heavy words... :Cheers:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: JOS2012 on September 30, 2013, 03:01:04 PM
I think my vote for 2013 Post of the Year is going to be decided soon... :Laughing_on_floor:
Some brands have the uncanny knack of bringing out very strong emotions in people, in all forms..... :laugh:

Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Enkidu on September 30, 2013, 03:22:03 PM
Some brands have the uncanny knack of bringing out very strong emotions in people, in all forms..... :laugh:

Joseph, I'd like to see some real marketing research to back up your assertion... :D :laugh:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: JOS2012 on September 30, 2013, 03:26:56 PM
errrrrr...it wasn't an assertion merely my humble observation which cannot be backed by facts.. :-\
If I have to, I'll retract it but dun expect a newspaper apology.....
I dun like tangling with legal eagles...or sharks literally (I'm a scuba diver, you see) no implication meant or you expect another retraction.. :Mad:

Some brands have the uncanny knack of bringing out very strong emotions in people, in all forms..... :laugh:

Joseph, I'd like to see some real marketing research to back up your assertion... :D :laugh:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: dpkong on September 30, 2013, 05:54:07 PM
More at fault would be cash-rich buyers who know nothing about watches and were recommended to buy them by sellers. Advertising is good eh?
If you are presenting this as fact, I'd like to see some real marketing research info to back this up. It's just an opinion on your part, albeit a common one held against "brand x" you are prejudiced against. This canard by the way does not reflect on the merit (or the lack of) of the watch itself. I've heard the same applied to Rolex.

In fact, this accusation can be leveled at about just every mass marketed luxury brand.

Whether Donald was presenting his statement as a fact or just his opinion, it does not really matter. He was presenting it as a watch hobbyist and surely that in itself is good enough for this site, which is primarily a site for watch hobbyists. Real marketing research? Ahem, ahem...I think you are on the wrong site buddy....  ;)

In any case, I believe Donald was just adding to what Chris was writing. Don't believe he was referring to any specific brand.

 :Cheers: well said

As watch hobbyists we are all better served by real information. Not innuendos, falsehoods, half truths, exaggerations and outright biased opionions masquerading as "fact". But this is the internet, feel free to distort whatever I have stated to serve whatever agenda you have in mind.... Buddy... ( <--- sarcasm pointer for the obtuse)

I seem to have missed the part in the Forum Rules which say that our posts must only be facts based on "some real marketing research".

Whatever, I'm going to take the advice in your signature and stop arguing about this ( <--- sarcasm pointer as well )

 ::)  :P
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: harkensng on September 30, 2013, 06:29:58 PM
I think my vote for 2013 Post of the Year is going to be decided soon... :Laughing_on_floor:
Some brands have the uncanny knack of bringing out very strong emotions in people, in all forms..... :laugh:

Strong emotion is ok. But calling other members obtuse which means stupid is more serious. Surprise mwf allows this kind of behavior  :thumbsdown: maybe enkidu and dpkong are ok with it but mods must take a stand. If this hapened in one of those international forums all hell will break loose oredi... :Mad:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: TheHobbit on September 30, 2013, 07:42:29 PM
It looks like any discussion with regards to this particular brand always leads down the same road. We appreciate that there are those who don't like the brand and as there those that like the brand but perhaps we can all take a step back, take a deep breath and answer the OP question and not get personal. We are all adults here and lets not turn this into some playground fight.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Enkidu on September 30, 2013, 08:54:45 PM
I think my vote for 2013 Post of the Year is going to be decided soon... :Laughing_on_floor:
Some brands have the uncanny knack of bringing out very strong emotions in people, in all forms..... :laugh:

Strong emotion is ok. But calling other members obtuse which means stupid is more serious. Surprise mwf allows this kind of behavior  :thumbsdown: maybe enkidu and dpkong are ok with it but mods must take a stand. If this hapened in one of those international forums all hell will break loose oredi... :Mad:

No problem, Harken. Let's not make an issue out of it. After nearly 20 years in my profession, the skin gets rather thick. In fact I did not even realise it until you mentioned it. Perhaps a bigger sarcasm pointer is needed!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Add: Hey Hobbit, since you appear to be an old hand when it comes to this famous brand, care to recommend a nice model for a sceptic like me? What do you think of the PAM00512 as a dress watch?  ;)
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: dpkong on September 30, 2013, 09:06:06 PM
I think my vote for 2013 Post of the Year is going to be decided soon... :Laughing_on_floor:
Some brands have the uncanny knack of bringing out very strong emotions in people, in all forms..... :laugh:

Strong emotion is ok. But calling other members obtuse which means stupid is more serious. Surprise mwf allows this kind of behavior  :thumbsdown: maybe enkidu and dpkong are ok with it but mods must take a stand. If this hapened in one of those international forums all hell will break loose oredi... :Mad:

No problem, Harken. Let's not make an issue out of it. After nearly 20 years in my profession, the skin gets rather thick. In fact I did not even realise it until you mentioned it. Perhaps a bigger sarcasm pointer is needed!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Add: Hey Hobbit, since you appear to be an old hand when it comes to this famous brand, care to recommend a nice model for a sceptic like me? What do you think of the PAM00512 as a dress watch?  ;)


Recommend you take the 532 instead. Having "Paneristi Forever" on your wrist may help soften you... to make you less "obtuse"

 :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: terrenceterrence on September 30, 2013, 09:10:26 PM

i nominate this as the post of the year  :Laughing_on_floor:
I think my vote for 2013 Post of the Year is going to be decided soon... :Laughing_on_floor:
Some brands have the uncanny knack of bringing out very strong emotions in people, in all forms..... :laugh:

Strong emotion is ok. But calling other members obtuse which means stupid is more serious. Surprise mwf allows this kind of behavior  :thumbsdown: maybe enkidu and dpkong are ok with it but mods must take a stand. If this hapened in one of those international forums all hell will break loose oredi... :Mad:

No problem, Harken. Let's not make an issue out of it. After nearly 20 years in my profession, the skin gets rather thick. In fact I did not even realise it until you mentioned it. Perhaps a bigger sarcasm pointer is needed!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Add: Hey Hobbit, since you appear to be an old hand when it comes to this famous brand, care to recommend a nice model for a sceptic like me? What do you think of the PAM00512 as a dress watch?  ;)


Recommend you take the 532 instead. Having "Paneristi Forever" on your wrist may help soften you... to make you less "obtuse"

 :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: sm on September 30, 2013, 09:11:02 PM
Why is Pam famous? I like this thread.

Imo:
1. It fills the gap for ppl wanting somethin rugged & loud w/o having to pay top $
2. It kinda level the playing field - no one can boasts having to know Pam longer than another cos its 're-introduction & re-positioning' is relatively new
3. Mostly metal w/o frills, no stones or solid gold(afew exception)
4. For 20k or rest, beautiful packaging w tools & straps. A enigmatic history.
5. Add-on accessories. So same watch but diff variants
6. A great bonding among fans. Many forums w enthusiatic members.
7. Underdog- trying to take on the Goliaths. E'ry one loves a fairy tale.
8. Mechanism aside - strong DNA and easily recognisable
9. The emergence of gen Y, internet, smartphone n Pam
10. The brilliant minds at Richemont.

Seriously, love loathe or nonchalant, Panerai is the marketing success story.

Sm
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: takashi78 on September 30, 2013, 09:12:01 PM
Nah...Enkidu's wrist calls for this!

(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2010/12/FP_6208633_Schwarzeneggar_Arnold_FP6_14_20.jpg)

(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f2/963471d1360191398-diesel-badass-really-biggest-watch-sylvester-stallone-panerai-pam-341-radiomir-egiziano-gallery.jpg)


I can imagine Enkidu with a cigar...oh so stylo...

(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f2/961711d1360071939-diesel-badass-really-biggest-watch-772006d1343085021-372-422-423-slyexp28.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: dpkong on September 30, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
But first, he needs to practice his "I'll be back" and "What I want, is what everybody wants"

 :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Enkidu on September 30, 2013, 09:27:18 PM

i nominate this as the post of the year  :Laughing_on_floor:


The trophy will change a little this year....It's only October tomorrow. This will be awarded on Christmas Day 2013.  ;D

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/2013_zps7c0b0b1b.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/loochunboon/media/2013_zps7c0b0b1b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Enkidu on September 30, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
Recommend you take the 532 instead. Having "Paneristi Forever" on your wrist may help soften you... to make you less "obtuse"

 :Laughing_on_floor:

I'll be happier if it makes me less obese. :laugh:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: dpkong on September 30, 2013, 09:36:31 PM
Come to Kuching for FREE seafood. NO calories there!

And TT was voting for post of the year. Your trophy should be reserved for the first MWF member to post a thread with an incoming wrist shot of a 532.

Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: TheHobbit on September 30, 2013, 09:40:45 PM

What do you think of the PAM00512 as a dress watch?  ;)

The PAM00512 is a nice watch but it is 42mm. I like the size and the design. The movement is not to bad either. The only issue is if you can live with the lack of minute markers and the ecru lume. And of course other paneristi asking you why 42mm and not the 47mm, not realizing how silly some of them look with 47mm watches on their wrist. I have an 8 inch wrist and at best I can carry the 44mm luminor and the 45mm radiomir. Nothing bigger, I tried.

If you don't like the 1940 case design, and still want to maintain the 42mm size, there is the PAM00337 or PAM00338. Basically same watch, different material, with the PAM00337 in stainless steel and the PAM00338 in titanium.

If you want the minute markers, and at 42mm, you are left with the PAM00523. But it is white dial, with date and 42mm. Not really the DNA of Panerai. But I like it. I started with the PAM00003 and still have it.

As for the PAM00532, I like it, minus the case back inscription, which is rather cheesy. But the rest of the watch is great. Sadly it's 47mm and 9,200 Euro. At the price range, there are other options, other brands to look at.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Enkidu on October 01, 2013, 11:11:39 AM

What do you think of the PAM00512 as a dress watch?  ;)

The PAM00512 is a nice watch but it is 42mm. I like the size and the design. The movement is not to bad either. The only issue is if you can live with the lack of minute markers and the ecru lume. And of course other paneristi asking you why 42mm and not the 47mm, not realizing how silly some of them look with 47mm watches on their wrist. I have an 8 inch wrist and at best I can carry the 44mm luminor and the 45mm radiomir. Nothing bigger, I tried.

As for the PAM00532, I like it, minus the case back inscription, which is rather cheesy. But the rest of the watch is great. Sadly it's 47mm and 9,200 Euro. At the price range, there are other options, other brands to look at.

Thanks. Advice noted. IMHO, 42mm is just perfect considering the 512 appears rather thin. Lack of minutes markers is also fine since this looks more like a dress watch. :laugh: No worries about the Paneristis too; our paths do not converge. You are right about watches being too large. My 46mm 3236 Inge is already far too large for my 8 inch wrist though it's not uncomfortable to wear. Besides the silly look, wearing a watch that's too large also raises the centre of gravity so you have a higher chance of falling flat on your face and damage your brain when you are not careful on the stairs... ;D. OK, best to avoid these.

Hmmmm.....I just read about the PAM532 this morning. Well, look at the bright side. At least someone had the good sense to just stop there and not add "bro, u earn my full respect. I salute u" or something just as meaningless onto the caseback. 
 
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Empty Tree 8 on October 01, 2013, 12:27:38 PM
I'm STILL really happy the Condor is nowhere to be sighted....phew...... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: euclidorus on October 03, 2013, 09:44:14 AM
The short and simple answer to the question in this topic is: Panerai is so famous due to the marketing genius of Richemont since its acquisition in 1997. Prior to that, Panerai was also famous and popular, but to a niche group of watch enthusiasts. Richemont essentially made it famous and popular in the global scene. No doubt, Stallone played his part too. It was Richemont that expanded distribution and product line-up. Lately Panerai is investing in own manufacture movement too to be synonymous with a true watchmaker.

Tracing back its 150 years or so history, Panerai made instruments for the Italian navy, which included wristwatches that can stand the rigours of navy use. But it was never a watchmaker per se. Hence you see some Panerai models where Rolex made the movements, case and crown. Some of its custom and limited production for specific requirements of the navy has now been monetised and reissued as sought after limited editions.

No doubt, the heritage and history of Panerai was interesting and significant, and the reason why a brand story can be built around it so successfully. You see others branding similarly, like Bell & Ross and Bremont, but not to the level of passion and enthusiasm that only one with Italian roots can.
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: davidtth on October 03, 2013, 09:50:22 AM
The short and simple answer to the question in this topic is: Panerai is so famous due to the marketing genius of Richemont since its acquisition in 1997. Prior to that, Panerai was also famous and popular, but to a niche group of watch enthusiasts. Richemont essentially made it famous and popular in the global scene. No doubt, Stallone played his part too. It was Richemont that expanded distribution and product line-up. Lately Panerai is investing in own manufacture movement too to be synonymous with a true watchmaker.

Tracing back its 150 years or so history, Panerai made instruments for the Italian navy, which included wristwatches that can stand the rigours of navy use. But it was never a watchmaker per se. Hence you see some Panerai models where Rolex made the movements, case and crown. Some of its custom and limited production for specific requirements of the navy has now been monetised and reissued as sought after limited editions.

No doubt, the heritage and history of Panerai was interesting and significant, and the reason why a brand story can be built around it so successfully. You see others branding similarly, like Bell & Ross and Bremont, but not to the level of passion and enthusiasm that only one with Italian roots can.

very well said, sum up everything in short  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: dennis.T on October 03, 2013, 11:51:26 AM
Bell & Ross and Bremont don’t have quick release system or conventional 1.6mm screw driver system… that's why they failed.. :Laughing_on_floor:
no offense to Bell & Ross and Bremont brand and fans..
I like Bell & Ross too but haven’t own one yet because it look too big on my wrist even with those 42mm model..
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: ndtaan on October 05, 2013, 11:38:17 PM
I think my vote for 2013 Post of the Year is going to be decided soon... :Laughing_on_floor:
Some brands have the uncanny knack of bringing out very strong emotions in people, in all forms..... :laugh:

Strong emotion is ok. But calling other members obtuse which means stupid is more serious. Surprise mwf allows this kind of behavior  :thumbsdown: maybe enkidu and dpkong are ok with it but mods must take a stand. If this hapened in one of those international forums all hell will break loose oredi... :Mad:

I fully agree with that.

name calling and sarcastic remark should be avoided,after all everybody is entitle to their opinion.That's what forums are all about. 
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: fireken on October 07, 2013, 04:35:26 AM
The short and simple answer to the question in this topic is: Panerai is so famous due to the marketing genius of Richemont since its acquisition in 1997. Prior to that, Panerai was also famous and popular, but to a niche group of watch enthusiasts. Richemont essentially made it famous and popular in the global scene. No doubt, Stallone played his part too. It was Richemont that expanded distribution and product line-up. Lately Panerai is investing in own manufacture movement too to be synonymous with a true watchmaker.

Tracing back its 150 years or so history, Panerai made instruments for the Italian navy, which included wristwatches that can stand the rigours of navy use. But it was never a watchmaker per se. Hence you see some Panerai models where Rolex made the movements, case and crown. Some of its custom and limited production for specific requirements of the navy has now been monetised and reissued as sought after limited editions.

No doubt, the heritage and history of Panerai was interesting and significant, and the reason why a brand story can be built around it so successfully. You see others branding similarly, like Bell & Ross and Bremont, but not to the level of passion and enthusiasm that only one with Italian roots can.

Very well sum up.. So in the end, it is the good marketing strategic with include some history that make brand what it current today... Even i don't really admirer the brand or its model, but i do understand when you have one of your favorite actor/actress wearing it and it look great... it tend to poison you to get one as well :D
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: windstruckk on October 07, 2013, 11:47:56 PM
It has a standalone DNA. From far you would already have known it's a PAM.

Its simple, elegant and matured image caters well for working professional's taste. My all time favorite  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: sm on October 08, 2013, 10:12:25 PM
I would say well known instead of famous.

Reasons: all of the above cos people buy for various reasons.
Make no mistake, Say what you want, Pam is right up there.

A case study on brand building and keeping your supporters fire burning.
I am not a Panerai fan though I have one pc (disposed another), it doesnt stop my admiration for their good efforts all round. Lets call a spade as such instead by other names.

Sm
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: swleong on October 09, 2013, 08:28:02 AM
It has a standalone DNA. From far you would already have known it's a PAM.

Standalobe DNA or Stallone DNA?  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Why is panerai so famous?
Post by: Timeless on November 04, 2013, 09:23:40 AM
IMHO, is all about marketing strategy that's why the supply/demand are growing tremendously.