Malaysia Watch Forum Watch Brand Survey 2011 - Results

[danny]

Malaysia Watch Forum members have voted for their favorite watch brands for 2011 in 2 categories.

First, the results for the Luxury Watch category: In descending order the top five luxury brands are Rolex, Panerai, Patek Philippe, IWC and Omega. The results represented in pie-chart format:

The results for the Affordable Watch category: In descending order the top five affordable brands are Seiko, Ball, Bell & Ross, Tag Heuer and Casio.

Kindly note that those brands which were featured in the survey but that did not garner any votes have been omitted from the results above.

The original surveys can be see here:

Malaysia Watch Forum Affordable Watch Brand Survey 2011

Malaysia Watch Forum Luxury Watch Brand Survey 2011

 

[danny]

Some personal observations:
 
In the Luxury category Patek Philippe has replaced Omega in the 3rd position. Looks like MWF members have grown more discerning in their taste for luxury watches.

In the Affordable category Seiko has expanded its lead by a substantial margin. Value proposition still remains an important criteria in this category.

 

[chrisyen]

zenith shocked me....
strong support from east msia?

[JOS2012]

Patek in 3rd whilst Rollie and Panerai 1st/2nd ?
I beg to differ with your conclusion..
Whilst different ppl have diff parameters in evaluating a watch, exposure does play a part.
In other forums I'm sure the survey would be very different

Some personal observations:
 
In the Luxury category Patek Philippe has replaced Omega in the 3rd position. Looks like MWF members have grown more discerning in their taste for luxury watches.

In the Affordable category Seiko has expanded its lead by a substantial margin. Value proposition still remains an important criteria in this category.

 

[hanz079]

zenith shocked me....
strong support from east msia?

Only 1 vote leh from me... 

[Enkidu]

Happy to see Glashutte Original at the 7th position but a little surprised Grand Seiko is so far down despite all the good reviews and favourable words by owners.

[hanz079]

Patek in 3rd whilst Rollie and Panerai 1st/2nd ?
I beg to differ with your conclusion..
Whilst different ppl have diff parameters in evaluating a watch, exposure does play a part.
In other forums I'm sure the survey would be very different

Some personal observations:
 
In the Luxury category Patek Philippe has replaced Omega in the 3rd position. Looks like MWF members have grown more discerning in their taste for luxury watches.

In the Affordable category Seiko has expanded its lead by a substantial margin. Value proposition still remains an important criteria in this category.

 

Of course different forums will have different conclusions.
While Patek is certainly a very luxurious watch, I am sure it is well out of reach for the normal Malaysians...
Rolex and PAMs? Save hard enough and it's reachable...
It's still a luxury watch, just on a different level.

[JOS2012]

hi hanz,
I know what you mean. Unfortunately affordability was not a factor in the survey. It was just Luxury..
I'm not trying to be a snob as I can't afford a PP, Lange, FPJ, RM or AHCI either but I would not place them in the ranks of Rollies or Pams..
Perhaps we should have Haute Horologerie (Unlimited Budget), Luxury, Branded....
something like how SWATCH categorises their different brands.
No offence to Rollies or Pam owners but I think the survey was skewed..



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Of course different forums will have different conclusions.
While Patek is certainly a very luxurious watch, I am sure it is well out of reach for the normal Malaysians...
Rolex and PAMs? Save hard enough and it's reachable...
It's still a luxury watch, just on a different level.
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[takashi78]

Patek in 3rd whilst Rollie and Panerai 1st/2nd ?
I beg to differ with your conclusion..
Whilst different ppl have diff parameters in evaluating a watch, exposure does play a part.
In other forums I'm sure the survey would be very different

When you say "your" conclusion, what do you mean?
This result is a summary of a vote by all the members here. Not just the mod or owner of the forum.

[JOS2012]

My mistake in not being specific...
Your conclusion I was referring to was :
<<Looks like MWF members have grown more discerning in their taste for luxury watches.>>

But having read your comment a 2nd time round perhaps you're not really wrong as you said 'more discerning' versus 'are discerning'

Patek in 3rd whilst Rollie and Panerai 1st/2nd ?
I beg to differ with your conclusion..
Whilst different ppl have diff parameters in evaluating a watch, exposure does play a part.
In other forums I'm sure the survey would be very different

When you say "your" conclusion, what do you mean?
This result is a summary of a vote by all the members here. Not just the mod or owner of the forum.

[chrisyen]

if every1 vote base on

what the brand did last yr - new watch design, pricing, green participation, newly improve parts, new techs....

then the result shd be different....

sadly most ppl just vote their prefered brand....

[ck77]

The result is based on the votes from us in MWF (well, some of us).
Obviously the sampling is not as large as international one's.
 

[JOS2012]

I hope I did not offend anyone, not my intention.
I would have been equally incredulous if the survey has resulted in Grand Seiko or Omega being voted tops (although GS is ONE of my favoured choices which also includes Swiss &  German manufactures whenever I have the itch to to buy 'that next watch. Omega also used to be one of my favourites)..

Most of the brands in the survey are good watches just that some are what I would categorise as tool watches whereas some are haute horologie (technical stuff such as Minute Repeaters, Tourbillons, Perpetual Calendars, astrology watches such as by VC, JLC, UN - Ludwig Oechslin) and some are haut gamme (jewelry).


 

[danny]

I hope I did not offend anyone, not my intention.

No offence taken. As stated in the original post for the survey which I quote here:
"Malaysia Watch Forum's unscientific and informal luxury watch brand survey ..."
the whole exercise is not meant to be exhaustive and the methodology is unscientific at best. The result should always be taken with a large pinch of salt.
However it does reflect the opinions of MWF members who cared enough about the issue to actually cast their votes.

 

[TheHobbit]

zenith shocked me....
strong support from east msia?

Only 1 vote leh from me... 

Sure or not..... 

[Angryrodent]

GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money it's kind of a prestigous Seiko (Grand Seiko sadly most ppl wont get what a great watch it is) but im biased to both Omega and Seiko and just dreaming of GO panomatic (but i will get it) Kinda like I played in my local team (UFC) but dreamt of Barcelona (maybe they will have a goodwill game or charity game where dumbasses like me can pay 2 play hehe)

[JOS2012]

  another one who voted GO…
Lange is my ultimate but unaffordable for me presently, if new. GO is more value for money and still affordable. GS to me is currently undervalued and quite reasonable in price...

GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money it's kind of a prestigous Seiko (Grand Seiko sadly most ppl wont get what a great watch it is) but im biased to both Omega and Seiko and just dreaming of GO panomatic (but i will get it) Kinda like I played in my local team (UFC) but dreamt of Barcelona (maybe they will have a goodwill game or charity game where dumbasses like me can pay 2 play hehe)

[Enkidu]

GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money

I too voted for GO. Personally, I feel the GO is at least a notch above Omega, but that's just my personal prejudice against Omega. 

[Angryrodent]

GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money

I too voted for GO. Personally, I feel the GO is at least a notch above Omega, but that's just my personal prejudice against Omega. 

I agree but I love Omega... I dun get bonuses that allow GO 

[JOS2012]

Of course complication for complication GO is above Omega. Just look at the finishing of their movements. Swan neck regulator, engraved plates, gold chatons..
For me..
GS is super value for money, Omega is value for money, GO is affordable, Lange is my golden chalice..

GO was my vote... but I still find Omega gives most for the money

I too voted for GO. Personally, I feel the GO is at least a notch above Omega, but that's just my personal prejudice against Omega. 

[siodee]

Some of the brands were missing in ranking last year and are back this yrs survey  . Still no one can challenge the King..

Well, at least I see Ball rank no.2 and B&R no.3 in the affordable categories. Either our members are rich or the price of these 2 brands have drop....

[Watchnewby]

For luxury watch category, still no one can challenge the "King". Maybe the reason is MWF members in Malaysia perceive that the "King" is their favourite brand of luxury watch. 

Well, at least I see Seiko made it to nearly half the votes in the affordable category. (30 votes as compared with Ball in second place with 6 votes and the third placing brand with 5 votes).
Agreed with Bro Siodee assessment that "Either our members are rich or the price of these 2 brands have drop" but there could be another factor - some of our MWF member may have some good windfall, hence voted these 2 brands to be at #2 &#3 respectively.

[bmw99]

For luxury watch category, still no one can challenge the "King". Maybe the reason is MWF members in Malaysia perceive that the "King" is their favourite brand of luxury watch. 

i think maybe the definition was not really clear as it was "brand survey - luxury category". if i were to vote i will surely vote for my dream watch which i may not be able to afford

[Angryrodent]

I think Seiko should give rebates to ppl on forums... don't think as many people would know how great they are and understand that maybe some snotty nosed b*stard might think low of it going around with his breitling (have nothing against Breitling) the ppl who knows a lill bit will like em... my seiko 5 kinda sucks but thats because i went to get it rucked, my king seiko never faults me and its older than me. Same goes for my Omega seamaster from the 60's, works perfectly!

[chrisyen]

I think Seiko should give rebates to ppl on forums... don't think as many people would know how great they are and understand that maybe some snotty nosed b*stard might think low of it going around with his breitling (have nothing against Breitling) the ppl who knows a lill bit will like em... my seiko 5 kinda sucks but thats because i went to get it rucked, my king seiko never faults me and its older than me. Same goes for my Omega seamaster from the 60's, works perfectly!

if seiko knew how to market.... (by rebate ppl like us).... lol.... i'm sure seiko will get more positive publicity