Advice on first Omega

[mike]

Hi, I'm getting a pre-owned Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 42mm. I went to several shops and survey around and I got a good price from a friend, RM7500 for a year 2012 hardly worn piece, with papers and box.

Advice from all sifu's would be much appreciated.

[Everdying]

just grab it, no need to think too much.
if 2012, means it should still have at least 1 more yr of official warranty left.

[Timeless]

Go ahead

[SKy Lim]

Its a great piece with inhouse movements,go for it as the retail price for now would be above rm20k

[kingpin]

I am not a sifu, but I will go for it. 7500 for 2012 Omega. That is a good deal. Show us the picture once you have it on your hand 

[CKL1213]

2012 is the 8500 movement?

[Friedrice]

2012 is the 8500 movement?

Probably not. And judging by the price of rm7500, it's not the 8500 movement.

If it is the 2500 movement, make sure that you buy the 2500C/D variant and not the A or B variant. Otherwise, the watch will give a lot of problems. They are still making B variants in 2012.

Also, a lot of fake 2500 PO's floating around that is very close to the original and the box can be bought for cheap in the open market. Check the serial number on the lugs and make sure it is the same as the serial number on the warranty card and chronometer card. Serial number for 2012 series should be facing inside and not outside.

The watch should come with a warranty card, chronometer card (for 2012 models only since the chronometer card was removed for 2014 models) and pictogram card. Limited edition pieces also come with an additional card that shows that it is limited edition.

And check on the condition of the watch. RM7500 is way too cheap for even a 2500 PO.

If everything checks out, buy it ASAP.

[Everdying]

If it is the 2500 movement, make sure that you buy the 2500C/D variant and not the A or B variant. Otherwise, the watch will give a lot of problems. They are still making B variants in 2012.

A variant AFAIK never made it to full production.
while there are no planet oceans with B variant.
most of the 2500B in the seamaster range are found in the aqua terra / railmaster.

B variant if memory serves right was discontinued in 2005, the same yr the planet ocean was launched.
so most had a 2500C, while only a few towards the end had the D.

[Friedrice]

If it is the 2500 movement, make sure that you buy the 2500C/D variant and not the A or B variant. Otherwise, the watch will give a lot of problems. They are still making B variants in 2012.

A variant AFAIK never made it to full production.
while there are no planet oceans with B variant.
most of the 2500B in the seamaster range are found in the aqua terra / railmaster.

B variant if memory serves right was discontinued in 2005, the same yr the planet ocean was launched.
so most had a 2500C, while only a few towards the end had the D.

Yup you are right about the PO being either the C or D. If possible get the D variant as my 2628B (based on 2500C) is beginning to exhibit some strange behaviours now. I handwind it up to 30-40 rotations on the crown but it will not start from a dead stop unless I give it a shake or two.

And this had to happen after GST 

[Everdying]

Yup you are right about the PO being either the C or D. If possible get the D variant as my 2628B (based on 2500C) is beginning to exhibit some strange behaviours now. I handwind it up to 30-40 rotations on the crown but it will not start from a dead stop unless I give it a shake or two.

And this had to happen after GST 

the not starting from a dead stop was a trait of the 2500B.
so if urs is a 2500C, then looks like its time for a service.

[Friedrice]

Yup you are right about the PO being either the C or D. If possible get the D variant as my 2628B (based on 2500C) is beginning to exhibit some strange behaviours now. I handwind it up to 30-40 rotations on the crown but it will not start from a dead stop unless I give it a shake or two.

And this had to happen after GST 

the not starting from a dead stop was a trait of the 2500B.
so if urs is a 2500C, then looks like its time for a service.

You sure?

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/2500-vs-8500-there-anything-wrong-older-movement-988978-4.html#post7432364

[Everdying]

Yup you are right about the PO being either the C or D. If possible get the D variant as my 2628B (based on 2500C) is beginning to exhibit some strange behaviours now. I handwind it up to 30-40 rotations on the crown but it will not start from a dead stop unless I give it a shake or two.

And this had to happen after GST 

the not starting from a dead stop was a trait of the 2500B.
so if urs is a 2500C, then looks like its time for a service.

You sure?

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/2500-vs-8500-there-anything-wrong-older-movement-988978-4.html#post7432364

understand what i said by a 'trait'.
as al archer mentions those stoppages are due to wear... hence as mentioned the need for service.
2500A was a 7hz movement, when it went to 2500B which was 8hz,so in short sometimes it did not have enough torque to move the second hand which then needed a slight knock to get it going ... that issue / trait was fixed in 2500C.

[jason_recliner]

That's a VERY good price. Inspect it EXTREMELY carefully. A mate bought a fake PO years back that fooled him (a collector) and the very experienced London jewellery from whom he bought it.  Nobody knew until he sent it to omega for servicing!

By the way don't be concerned about the 2500 variants. Ant issues with the movement, if it ever had any, would have been rectified many years ago.

[Friedrice]

Yup you are right about the PO being either the C or D. If possible get the D variant as my 2628B (based on 2500C) is beginning to exhibit some strange behaviours now. I handwind it up to 30-40 rotations on the crown but it will not start from a dead stop unless I give it a shake or two.

And this had to happen after GST 

the not starting from a dead stop was a trait of the 2500B.
so if urs is a 2500C, then looks like its time for a service.

You sure?

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/2500-vs-8500-there-anything-wrong-older-movement-988978-4.html#post7432364

understand what i said by a 'trait'.
as al archer mentions those stoppages are due to wear... hence as mentioned the need for service.
2500A was a 7hz movement, when it went to 2500B which was 8hz,so in short sometimes it did not have enough torque to move the second hand which then needed a slight knock to get it going ... that issue / trait was fixed in 2500C.

A, B and C shares the same trait. They are built the same and have stoppage issues.

There is nothing wrong with admitting that you were wrong. You don't have to be right all the time..

And also don't be so hostile towards all my posts.

I am just stating the fact that my 2500C variant seamaster started to exhibit stoppage issues and you went all out to play the role of a skeptic.

How would you know that the 2500C variants (which are built the same as A and B) is not exhibiting stoppage issues? Do you have a stockpile of a sizable large amount of 2500C watches to back your statement of 2500C never have any dead stop issues?

I have a 2628B (2500C) that is starting to exhibit these issues and I was just stating the facts. You know that you don't have to exert your authority by stating that you are always right.

Even when I make a mistake, I openly admit that I am wrong in my subsequent posts and apologize for misinformation.

[Shinka]

I bought mine 45mm Omega PO 8500 (orange bezel, steel bracelet) for RM14,000 before GST hits.

So i guess yours is a pretty good deal.

[Everdying]

A, B and C shares the same trait. They are built the same and have stoppage issues.

There is nothing wrong with admitting that you were wrong. You don't have to be right all the time..

And also don't be so hostile towards all my posts.

I am just stating the fact that my 2500C variant seamaster started to exhibit stoppage issues and you went all out to play the role of a skeptic.

How would you know that the 2500C variants (which are built the same as A and B) is not exhibiting stoppage issues? Do you have a stockpile of a sizable large amount of 2500C watches to back your statement of 2500C never have any dead stop issues?

I have a 2628B (2500C) that is starting to exhibit these issues and I was just stating the facts. You know that you don't have to exert your authority by stating that you are always right.

Even when I make a mistake, I openly admit that I am wrong in my subsequent posts and apologize for misinformation.

are u really that butthurt? seriously? hostile?
all i said was the 2500C needed servicing, which was what archer has also said in the post u gave.

[Friedrice]

A, B and C shares the same trait. They are built the same and have stoppage issues.

There is nothing wrong with admitting that you were wrong. You don't have to be right all the time..

And also don't be so hostile towards all my posts.

I am just stating the fact that my 2500C variant seamaster started to exhibit stoppage issues and you went all out to play the role of a skeptic.

How would you know that the 2500C variants (which are built the same as A and B) is not exhibiting stoppage issues? Do you have a stockpile of a sizable large amount of 2500C watches to back your statement of 2500C never have any dead stop issues?

I have a 2628B (2500C) that is starting to exhibit these issues and I was just stating the facts. You know that you don't have to exert your authority by stating that you are always right.

Even when I make a mistake, I openly admit that I am wrong in my subsequent posts and apologize for misinformation.

are u really that butthurt? seriously? hostile?
all i said was the 2500C needed servicing, which was what archer has also said in the post u gave.

It doesn't need servicing. It needs a third wheel to make it stable. Yes, the third wheel can be installed on the escapement during service but that does not discount the fact that the 2500C has the same stoppage issues as A and B since they are built similar (two level escapement instead of 3 on 2500D). Go re-read Archie's post again. He mentioned adding a 3rd wheel to the C's.

The thing is whether if Swatch Group Malaysia is aware of this solution or not. If not, they might just service it without adding a 3rd level.

You claimed that my watch stopped because it needs servicing and not because of stoppage issues caused by the two level escapement. You also claimed that the stoppage issues were ironed out in the C variants (which is untrue).

And now, you turn around and claimed that the link I sent you said that it is simply a servicing issue, when Archie clearly states that he added a third level (additional wheel) on the 2500C's that he serviced. Adding an extra component is not servicing the watch. It is to modify the watch to stop the issue from reoccurring. If the watch is simply sent in for service, the issue will pop up again after a few years. C variant stoppage issues will usually manifest itself after a few years.

[hanz079]

OK, it does not need servicing.
We are all in awe of your supreme knowledge regarding Omega and are grateful to you of sharing.

Let's move on now to the OP earlier objectives.

Get the watch checked out.
If it's all OK.
Hoot!!!
Omega PO's are always great value for money pre owned.
They don't hold value so well so it's good to get it preowned to soften the blow.

Do remember to show pics once you pulled the trigger. 

[pexus]

this piece comes with bracelet or strap?

[chrisyen]

MOD : guys ! beware with your choice of words!

as per the rule, no personal attack

focus the discussion on watches not person !

[ahboy]

sky lim dug out last year post....


no reply from mikster whether buy liao or not

[mike]

sky lim dug out last year post....


no reply from mikster whether buy liao or not

Haha, sorry fellas. Seller FFK, didn't get to buy it

[SKy Lim]

sky lim dug out last year post....


no reply from mikster whether buy liao or not

Yes i did,and thx for replying to LAST YEAR post