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Title: Piaget
Post by: JPSP on May 12, 2013, 11:52:31 AM
Hi Sifus,

I'm curious about Piaget. They've been known more as a jeweller rather than a watch manufacture (that they first started out to be). May i know if anyone of you has any experience handling their watches?

I can rarely find them in pre-owned market...i think their resale value takes a huge beating but can someone confirm this?

Finally, what do you think of their Altiplano and Gouverneur range?

Thanks
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: dyna212 on May 12, 2013, 03:33:30 PM
I was there in Geneve last month. Checked on Rolex prices. Considering last month's currency exchange, switzerland turns out to have the most expensive price. Paris airport duty free second and UK price is almost similar to malaysia price after discount from the local boutique in Malaysia.
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: 1to12 on May 12, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
Does Piaget still hold the world record for the thinnest watch? I like slim stuffs... but on a timepiece, feels a bit fragile...  :P
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: Godzillaz on May 12, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
I like Piaget. They actually started out as watchmaker and only later they venture into jewelery. Piaget annual production of time pieces is abt. 18,000~22,000. Quite low volume if you compare them to PP, AP or JLC. I know only Lange have lower volume than Piaget.

Their Atiplano is one of my favorite but I still haven't found a model that fit my wrist.  :-[

Regard
Tyler
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: bezelnut on May 13, 2013, 08:31:48 AM
Does Piaget still hold the world record for the thinnest watch? I like slim stuffs... but on a timepiece, feels a bit fragile...  :P

Technically, Piaget does not hold the world record for the thinnest watch. The current world thinnest watch is this
(http://www.3ders.org/images/thinnest-watch-3d-printed-6.jpg)
which is still a kickstarter project.

A valid thinnest watch currently in production (at least that is what Titan claim) is this
(http://www.mcbroom.biz/PMWF/BFTQ/2011-03-24_Titan-Edge1-FF.jpg)
Which is a quartz.

So what do Piaget have?
It has the world thinnest, currently in production, automatic movement the 1200P and it's skeletonized brother 1200S, the world thinnest, currently in production, automatic skeleton movement . Coupled with a case, it also produce the world thinnest automatic skeleton watch.
(http://static.squarespace.com/static/4fa14d3ce4b08a53fa26468e/500881b0e4b0634b00d359ed/50088256e4b0634b00d3ac99/1335203151153/?format=750w)

Moral of the story: Piaget break world record with condition.  ;D

By the way, Piaget is pronounced as Pia-J.  ;)
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: JPSP on May 13, 2013, 03:01:11 PM
resale value takes a heavy beating?
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: Godzillaz on May 13, 2013, 04:46:03 PM
Depending on which model. I'll say a definite yes on most model except those rare edition.

resale value takes a heavy beating?
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: JPSP on May 13, 2013, 05:13:55 PM
Depending on which model. I'll say a definite yes on most model except those rare edition.

resale value takes a heavy beating?

Thanks buddy!
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: Godzillaz on May 13, 2013, 06:26:07 PM
Anytime, mate.  ;)
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: JPSP on May 13, 2013, 09:06:50 PM
I like Piaget. They actually started out as watchmaker and only later they venture into jewelery. Piaget annual production of time pieces is abt. 18,000~22,000. Quite low volume if you compare them to PP, AP or JLC. I know only Lange have lower volume than Piaget.

Their Atiplano is one of my favorite but I still haven't found a model that fit my wrist.  :-[

Regard
Tyler

Altiplano has 40mm and 43mm...what's the ideal size that you're looking at?
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: 1to12 on May 13, 2013, 09:15:47 PM
Does Piaget still hold the world record for the thinnest watch? I like slim stuffs... but on a timepiece, feels a bit fragile...  :P

Technically, Piaget does not hold the world record for the thinnest watch. The current world thinnest watch is this

So what do Piaget have?
It has the world thinnest, currently in production, automatic movement the 1200P and it's skeletonized brother 1200S, the world thinnest, currently in production, automatic skeleton movement . Coupled with a case, it also produce the world thinnest automatic skeleton watch.
(http://static.squarespace.com/static/4fa14d3ce4b08a53fa26468e/500881b0e4b0634b00d359ed/50088256e4b0634b00d3ac99/1335203151153/?format=750w)

Moral of the story: Piaget break world record with condition.  ;D

By the way, Piaget is pronounced as Pia-J.  ;)

The skeleton looks quite nice. The brand strikes me as elegant yet unassuming...
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: bezelnut on May 14, 2013, 11:48:50 AM
Dear JPSP,

Found something that I think you should take note. Or maybe you already know.

Quote
...I found several statements that the Altiplano has "issues". I am quite sure what they meant was the usual about ultra thins, they are fragile, they lack accuracy, if they are knocked their accuracy goes off if the watch is otherwise not damaged, and one must be careful tightening the watchband on the wrist because the thin case will flex and the movement can be damaged or at least accuracy will be impacted.

source:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/what-about-piaget-watches-741873.html
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: bezelnut on May 14, 2013, 12:00:14 PM

The skeleton looks quite nice. The brand strikes me as elegant yet unassuming...

Yeah, they look delicious indeed. However, the asking price is not for mere mortal.

one will have to choose between this
(http://paultan.org/image/BMW320i-Executive-Edition.jpg)
and this.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/martijn81/AltiplanoSkeleton5.jpg)

One have to ask himself, is a piece of ultra-thin metal really comparable to a slab of 1.5 ton metal?
Maybe one who opt for the thin metal already have many slabs of metal sitting at home.  ;D
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: davidtth on May 14, 2013, 12:29:27 PM
oh my reminds me why paying so much for time teller while i can get a nice transport  :o

Piaget for me they are best in ultra thin, rare and unique  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: 1to12 on May 14, 2013, 10:10:07 PM

The skeleton looks quite nice. The brand strikes me as elegant yet unassuming...

Yeah, they look delicious indeed. However, the asking price is not for mere mortal.

one will have to choose between this

One have to ask himself, is a piece of ultra-thin metal really comparable to a slab of 1.5 ton metal?
Maybe one who opt for the thin metal already have many slabs of metal sitting at home.  ;D

WHOA!! So expensive??? I didn't realise. The 1.5 tonne of metal is more value for money!  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: jason_recliner on May 15, 2013, 04:31:26 PM
Piaget seems to have decent presence in Malaysia, but elsewhere nothing.
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: bezelnut on May 16, 2013, 07:35:25 AM
Piaget seems to have decent presence in Malaysia, but elsewhere nothing.

Dear Jason,

Can you please explain the above statement?
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: jason_recliner on May 16, 2013, 06:15:27 PM
Well, there is a boutique in KLCC, and maybe one other in KL?  Or at least one other AD, I think.  HK has a boutique, too, from memory.  But in Australia, there aren't any ADs, let alone boutiques, and you don't here much about them from the USA, either.  I seem to recall they recently opened a boutique in London, but I could be wrong.  Overall, the brand seems to be targeted at the Asian market.
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: IWCking on May 21, 2013, 09:36:28 PM
the boutique in kl is catered for Chinese tourists. Piaget used to be the choice for Chinese tourists. Indeed, Chinese buyers used to only recognized piaget or VC as the most exclusive watches until PP and Rolex which make a serious inroad to china lately.

Like VC, Piaget resell value is very weak. Indeed, most brands are. Safest bet is probably PPPR if you are looking at resell value. I will personally pick VC if I am looking for very dressy classic slim watch. Or Alange. Piaget just doesn't sing to me.
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: bezelnut on May 22, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
Well, there is a boutique in KLCC, and maybe one other in KL?  Or at least one other AD, I think.  HK has a boutique, too, from memory.  But in Australia, there aren't any ADs, let alone boutiques, and you don't here much about them from the USA, either.  I seem to recall they recently opened a boutique in London, but I could be wrong.  Overall, the brand seems to be targeted at the Asian market.
Its a bit pity Piaget have such poor recognition & weak follower in the Western countries. In my opinion, they should be up there with JLC. Their history dated back to 1870's, not the oldest but definitely respectable pedigree. Innovation wise, they are not too far from JLC either, and their in-house ability is unbeatable. I wonder what went wrong with them.

Btw, IWCking, what is PPPR?
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: sean on May 22, 2013, 12:26:50 PM
Btw, IWCking, what is PPPR?
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Let me guess, Patek Philippe, Panerai and Rolex?
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: 1to12 on May 29, 2013, 10:10:46 PM
Saw Piaget's new outlet at Marina Bay Sands being renovated. Should be opening soon.
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: IWCking on May 31, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
well, I personally do not think that JLC has a higher standing than piaget. But just like VC etc, their entry pricing is not friendly to most people, so very few people check them out. Their entry level watch is way more expensive than jlc or even vc.

PPPR =Patek, AP (some people think Panerai too but some disagree) & Rollie.
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: dav-3873 on June 01, 2013, 07:37:36 AM
Yes, but one certainly will depreciate and the other one may go north after many years :)




The skeleton looks quite nice. The brand strikes me as elegant yet unassuming...

Yeah, they look delicious indeed. However, the asking price is not for mere mortal.

one will have to choose between this
(http://paultan.org/image/BMW320i-Executive-Edition.jpg)
and this.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/martijn81/AltiplanoSkeleton5.jpg)

One have to ask himself, is a piece of ultra-thin metal really comparable to a slab of 1.5 ton metal?
Maybe one who opt for the thin metal already have many slabs of metal sitting at home.  ;D
Title: Re: Piaget
Post by: bezelnut on June 03, 2013, 10:39:10 PM
well, I personally do not think that JLC has a higher standing than piaget. But just like VC etc, their entry pricing is not friendly to most people, so very few people check them out. Their entry level watch is way more expensive than jlc or even vc.

PPPR =Patek, AP (some people think Panerai too but some disagree) & Rollie.

I think I found their problem, it is with their entry level pieces priced too high (or don't have entry level pieces), and doesn't have a pedigree like PP. That should be the reason why Piaget is less known.

Yes, but one certainly will depreciate and the other one may go north after many years :)


 :thumbsup: & finger crossed.