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Title: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: hanz079 on April 06, 2013, 08:59:28 AM
Ok, some of you vintage collectors might know about this watch.
But I only found out this existed yesterday... yes... yesterday...

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/Bulova%20Royal%20Oak/CE710025-7430-460E-9142-5E4C039C0267-34757-00003FB508263FDE_zpsae1d5336.jpg)

 :o :o :o :o :o

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/Bulova%20Royal%20Oak/DD720885-F6D1-430F-95FB-827312942251-34757-00003FB515F49EA1_zps969a87a6.jpg)

 :Startled: :Startled: :Startled: :Startled: :Startled:

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/Bulova%20Royal%20Oak/2F4D7E24-0C2B-4D3A-ADF2-9B9B81F1648B-34757-00003FB4F165C911_zpse7a735c8.jpg)

Speechless.... hahaha

Some online sellers are asking rm10k for this watch.
It's powered by an ETA2892 according to what I read...
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 06, 2013, 09:17:15 AM
Another work of Gerald Genta?

Or a homage to AP's Royal Oak?
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: 1to12 on April 06, 2013, 12:01:24 PM
Hahaha. Is does look very close to the real thing. Don't think they commissioned the late Mr Genta to design for them before his passing.

I do like their Accutron model though. Classic 80s.

Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: HusH on April 06, 2013, 11:36:19 PM
I've seen this for sale on WUS some years ago. Can't recall the exact price but certainly not RM10k.
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: Godzillaz on April 07, 2013, 10:03:31 AM
WEIRD ...  :o

I'm not sure I like it.
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 07, 2013, 01:57:43 PM
It does look a little weird.

That said, I actually feel that the thinner hand look better than the original's. Just the hand.
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: G.MAC on April 07, 2013, 07:02:30 PM
wow...looks a lot like the RO even down to the bracelet
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: takashi78 on April 07, 2013, 09:31:05 PM
Can Hanz provide some details of this watch?

I am surprised AP didnt sue them?

To me its 99% alike !
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 08, 2013, 02:14:39 PM
After some brief search on the net, there isn't much trusted info regarding this watch. Most people call it Bulova Royal Oak. However, some (untrusted source) do point out that it is indeed a Gerald Genta creation, and even more shockingly, it is before Genta made AP RO. So if that is true, it will make AP RO a homage to the Bulova!  :o

Quoted from the net:
1
For the Royal Oak collector! Own a piece of history money cant buy anymore. This is the original Royal Oak that Gerald Genta concepted for Bulova in the 70's before Audemars.
The grand-daddy of all oaks' very very Rare. Dial has aged to a beautiful cream colour. This is so rare, i have only seen 1 other piece in worse condition at Fellows and Sons auctions 2 years back!
This piece would complete any Audemars or Royal Oak enthussiats collection. Be the talk of the town when you wear it. Just Stunning!

2
BULOVA - a stainless steel automatic gentleman's bracelet watch. The silver tone dial with hob nail relief texture and hourly silvered batons, date aperture to three o'clock, chamfered bezel secured by eight screws, satin finish case fitted to a steel link bracelet with folding clasp, numbered 4420101 6-157204, with signed calibre 1432.10 17 jewel movement. Case width 35mm.
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: hanz079 on April 08, 2013, 02:21:30 PM
Question is if it were true, wouldn't Bulova be riding on this all the way to the bank?
I mean the AP RO have already entered haute horology and if this were as some people said... concepted before the AP RO, then it would indeed make the AP RO "just a homage" which would also mean that all the publishings about the conception of the Royal Oak merely "coffee table book" material.  :o
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: dpkong on April 08, 2013, 03:05:48 PM

I don't agree it looks weird. Other than the round screws on the bezel and the AP name on the dial, it looks a near exact copy of the Royal Oak.

Maybe when Bulova released it, it wasn't well received and so the model died? Or maybe they didn't charge enough for it and everyone felt it was a cheap SS watch....

Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 09, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
Question is if it were true, wouldn't Bulova be riding on this all the way to the bank?
I mean the AP RO have already entered haute horology and if this were as some people said... concepted before the AP RO, then it would indeed make the AP RO "just a homage" which would also mean that all the publishings about the conception of the Royal Oak merely "coffee table book" material.  :o

Sound like good quality material for those famous controversy theory. Quick grab 1 before the world find out about the truth, then you can sell it worth 50 times more. ;D

Anyway, even IF Bulova really came 1st, they are using generic movement, while AP did in-house. So technically, they still do not compare, in the 70's and today alike.
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: ck77 on April 09, 2013, 01:00:59 PM
Anyway, even IF Bulova really came 1st, they are using generic movement, while AP did in-house. So technically, they still do not compare, in the 70's and today alike.
Not really, the original RO in 1972 was using JLC movement.
It's still using it today for 15202.
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: takashi78 on April 09, 2013, 01:18:57 PM
Well it was a "joint venture".
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 09, 2013, 01:22:37 PM

Not really, the original RO in 1972 was using JLC movement.
It's still using it today for 15202.

Ops, my mistake. Calibre 920 build by JLC.


Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 09, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
Well it was a "joint venture".

(http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201203/subaru-brz-and-toyot-3_600x0w.jpg)
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: ck77 on April 09, 2013, 01:34:25 PM
 ;D
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/lancer_inspira_1_zpsa455758b.jpg)
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: CKL1213 on April 09, 2013, 01:42:58 PM
like  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: rusminag on April 09, 2013, 04:50:02 PM
;D
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/lancer_inspira_1_zpsa455758b.jpg)

Arghhhh........
Malaysia Boleh.......ciplak....
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: 1to12 on April 09, 2013, 09:15:55 PM
Lol. The tiru culture...
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: TET@WATCH on April 19, 2013, 06:52:30 PM
Hi Hanz079...i like it very much...may i know where to get it and how much ?  please pm me...tq :Cheers:
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: ronaldindin on April 19, 2013, 08:09:36 PM
the design is so "yesterday". I doubt this thing will cost 10k
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 20, 2013, 08:15:45 AM
the design is so "yesterday". I doubt this thing will cost 10k

Some might call it "yesterday" or "out-dated", but some call it "classic".

IMO, anything design/made by Gerald Genta will be evergreen.
Anyone calling PP Nautilus "yesterday"?
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: TET@WATCH on April 22, 2013, 11:17:30 AM
Hi bezelnut...no worries, i bought one at Ebay liau...Will show you after 2 weeks time :Dancing_banana: So-so HAPPY :Jumping:
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: chrisyen on April 22, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
Hi bezelnut...no worries, i bought one at Ebay liau...Will show you after 2 weeks time :Dancing_banana: So-so HAPPY :Jumping:

Pls invite me!
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: TET@WATCH on April 22, 2013, 04:08:04 PM
Ha-ha Chrisyen...you are always welcome :Cheers: Anyway, like to say a big thank you to our host Hanz079 for introducing the watch or i would not know it existed. :Jumping:
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 23, 2013, 01:36:36 PM
Hi bezelnut...no worries, i bought one at Ebay liau...Will show you after 2 weeks time :Dancing_banana: So-so HAPPY :Jumping:

Wow  :thumbsup:
Congrats my friend. I don't even see it surface on Ebay. what keyword did you use to search?

btw, in my previous post, I totally have no intention to criticize, I apologise if I made you feel that way.  :angel:
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: TET@WATCH on April 23, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
Hi Bezelnut...no hard feelings...but actually i felt bad for Ronaldindin, he is actually trying to pre-warn me..anyway, let bygone be bygone.  There is no keyword at ebay but just put in "Bulova automatic" and start seaching one by one..it takes me about 2 days to find that particular watch. Soon i got to go for my eye check up liau (ha-ha). :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: A watch fit for "Royal-ty"
Post by: bezelnut on April 24, 2013, 08:53:27 AM
Hi Bezelnut...no hard feelings...but actually i felt bad for Ronaldindin, he is actually trying to pre-warn me..anyway, let bygone be bygone.  There is no keyword at ebay but just put in "Bulova automatic" and start seaching one by one..it takes me about 2 days to find that particular watch. Soon i got to go for my eye check up liau (ha-ha). :Laughing_on_floor:

Man, you are the maestro of perseverance.
But I guess hunting is half the fun, yeah.  :Jumping: