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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: Lurch on April 04, 2013, 09:05:14 AM
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Came across this watch in one of the watch forums
And thought it look really good. Questions
1/ where can I get one in Klg valley?
2/ what is the going price?
3/ have not owned a seiko before, are they durable?
Thanks
(http://www.nzwatches.com/image-remote/upload/product/sport%20watches/seiko%205%20automatic%20diver/snzf19j1_01.jpg)
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seiko is durable
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Can't answer your 1st two question, I'm from East Malaysia.
For the third, Seiko is reliable. Mine get knocked, salt-watered, soiled, muded, dropped, scraped. 7 years and counting, still running like a charm. With their excessively extreme super low price, there is nothing to complain.
You have to service it thou, as every single mechanical watch. I found that Seiko 5 have a shorter service duration, around 2 years. however, servicing fee is under RM50.
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however, servicing fee is under RM50.
From Thong Sia?
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Nope, just some local watchsmith that I trust.
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What/how exactly did you find out and what makes you think the service interval is 2yrs?
Curious to find out.
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When it does not keep time within an acceptable range. Or when something feel loose.
For example, few years ago I found out 1 day that the crown, when pull out or push in, doesn't have the usual firm click to it. So I send it for servicing.
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What was your "acceptable" range?
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I'm guessing around gaining 15 seconds a day. Actually I never timed my Seiko 5 before. If I need to adjust my watch once a week, I'll probably send it for servicing.
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Very insightful input guys.
Anyway to update I got an offer of around rm5xx
Isit ok? A friend is getting for me from Singapore
The orange dial one
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around there
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Have you considered this one? You will need to top up a bit more thou.
(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f21/287281d1274355219-leather-strap-orange-monster-aviatorpro-6.jpg)
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Have you considered this one? You will need to top up a bit more thou.
(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f21/287281d1274355219-leather-strap-orange-monster-aviatorpro-6.jpg)
That's the older Orange Monster with the original 7s26 movement. Non-hacking (second hand won't stop when you pull out the crown to adjust the time) and non-hand winding (you can't wind the watch manually to "power it up", you have to shake it/wear it). Kind of inconvenient IMO as sometimes you need to wind it up before going to sleep or over a weekend if you don't want to wake up to a "dead" watch.
Slightly more expensive is the latest Orange Monster (SRP309K1) with the latest 4r36 movement. Hackable and hand-windable.
The indices (time markings on the dial) are triangular on the new model (square on the older model).
(http://i.imgur.com/xITbE4r.jpg)
On a third party orange NATO strap.
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I think the crown look different on SRP309K1 vs SKX781K ?
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That's the older Orange Monster with the original 7s26 movement. Non-hacking (second hand won't stop when you pull out the crown to adjust the time) and non-hand winding (you can't wind the watch manually to "power it up", you have to shake it/wear it). Kind of inconvenient IMO as sometimes you need to wind it up before going to sleep or over a weekend if you don't want to wake up to a "dead" watch.
Slightly more expensive is the latest Orange Monster (SRP309K1) with the latest 4r36 movement. Hackable and hand-windable.
The indices (time markings on the dial) are triangular on the new model (square on the older model).
(http://i.imgur.com/xITbE4r.jpg)
On a third party orange NATO strap.
You are right, I post a pic of the old monster. Thanks for filling in all the details.
I was comparing the monster with Seiko 5, and none Seiko 5 have hacking function. (corrrect me if I'm wrong)
Anyway, one can still stop the second hand, by "fake hacking", turning the crown back a little, the second hand should halt...
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Have you considered this one? You will need to top up a bit more thou.
(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f21/287281d1274355219-leather-strap-orange-monster-aviatorpro-6.jpg)
Will most probably make this my daily watch so i would prefer steel bracelet as im in sales
and always running around (rain or shine) :Mad:
this one has very big bezel...abit too 'loud' for my liking... hehehe
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Will most probably make this my daily watch so i would prefer steel bracelet as im in sales
and always running around (rain or shine) :Mad:
this one has very big bezel...abit too 'loud' for my liking... hehehe
The pictures here have leather and NATO straps, the Seiko Orange Monster are also sold with metal bracelets.
I'm not too familiar with the Seiko 5 model range, so I'm can't say which which model you are referring to. Can't help you there. There are a lot of variations within the range. Good luck with your decision.
:Cheers: :Cheers: :thumbsup:
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You are right, I post a pic of the old monster. Thanks for filling in all the details.
I was comparing the monster with Seiko 5, and none Seiko 5 have hacking function. (corrrect me if I'm wrong)
Anyway, one can still stop the second hand, by "fake hacking", turning the crown back a little, the second hand should halt...
there are actually a few seiko 5 models available already with the 4r36 hacking / windable movement as found in the new monsters.
its cos of this that most ppl are now anxiously awaiting to see if the popular skx007 / 009 will also get updated.
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thanks, im actually looking at the one posted on the first thread.
the one with steel bracelet which looks like a seamaster.
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I'm guessing around gaining 15 seconds a day. Actually I never timed my Seiko 5 before. If I need to adjust my watch once a week, I'll probably send it for servicing.
You do know the Seiko-5 can deviate as much as 25sec per day right?
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Seiko 5's are a hit n miss affair.
If you r lucky u can get one that runs within +30 secs per week.
If you r unlucky u can get one that runs +30 secs per day.
This is the result of mass production line mechanised assembly with no regulation..
GS are a totally different story on the other hand..being hand assembled and hand regulated..
In between you have the Brightz, SARBs, Phoenix, etc..
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This is my weekend Seiko 5 Sports. Bought it from a local watch collector but I don't know how to verify if all parts are original. The bezel looks too clean... but I like the watch's charm. Anyone with keen eye and expertise can spot if any parts doesn't look ori? Tx!
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o706/1to12/IMG_2302_zpsd102badf.jpg)
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the crown at 12 o'clock position?
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its called a bullhead
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I'm guessing around gaining 15 seconds a day. Actually I never timed my Seiko 5 before. If I need to adjust my watch once a week, I'll probably send it for servicing.
You do know the Seiko-5 can deviate as much as 25sec per day right?
Yes, I do realise Seiko-5 is not very precise. however, mine keep time pretty well, relatively. Cannot ignore the fact that it is very cheap.
After this thread, I just started a accuracy test on my seiko-5. Will update in a few days time. It won't be as thorough as the one did by our friend here Empty Tree thou. I don't have OCD. ;D
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,8522.0.html
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there are actually a few seiko 5 models available already with the 4r36 hacking / windable movement as found in the new monsters.
its cos of this that most ppl are now anxiously awaiting to see if the popular skx007 / 009 will also get updated.
wow, didn't realise that. I'm indeed proven wrong.
Thanks for the correction.
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This is my weekend Seiko 5 Sports. Bought it from a local watch collector but I don't know how to verify if all parts are original. The bezel looks too clean... but I like the watch's charm. Anyone with keen eye and expertise can spot if any parts doesn't look ori? Tx!
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o706/1to12/IMG_2302_zpsd102badf.jpg)
Here's an article written sometime ago intended to be a rough guide on how to purchase this highly sought after Cal. 6138 bullhead.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f281/how-buy-seiko-6138-0040-0049-bullhead-chronograph-collectors-buying-guide-140801.html
As you may know, the Seiko 5 sports speedtimer dial (assuming the dial is original to this watch) indicates that this particular bull head was sold in Japan (JDM model). One way to tell if the tachy bezel is an original from seiko is to see if the yellow/cream markers next to the numbers on the tachy scale extend to the part of the bezel which folds to the back, adjacent to its perimeter next to the crystal. The imitations from Philippines normally have these markers printed flat on the surface of the bezel and you can see the whole of the markers faced up.
Wear in good health. Hope the above is of some guide to you.
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thanks, im actually looking at the one posted on the first thread.
the one with steel bracelet which looks like a seamaster.
Always buy a watch that you like and will enjoy wearing it. So if you like this Seiko-5, bring it home with you.
However, before you took the plunge, I do recommend you to take a look at this. Just to compare. The price difference is almost negligible. .
(http://www.discountwatchstore.com/assets/images/Orient/EM6500AM.jpg)
EM6500AM aka Orient Ray aka Orient New Mako.
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Always buy a watch that you like and will enjoy wearing it. So if you like this Seiko-5, bring it home with you.
However, before you took the plunge, I do recommend you to take a look at this. Just to compare. The price difference is almost negligible. .
(http://www.discountwatchstore.com/assets/images/Orient/EM6500AM.jpg)
EM6500AM aka Orient Ray aka Orient New Mako.
i saw that Orient in person before. not too bad considering the difference is about RM80-100 more only.
thinking, thinking
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This is my weekend Seiko 5 Sports. Bought it from a local watch collector but I don't know how to verify if all parts are original. The bezel looks too clean... but I like the watch's charm. Anyone with keen eye and expertise can spot if any parts doesn't look ori? Tx!
Here's an article written sometime ago intended to be a rough guide on how to purchase this highly sought after Cal. 6138 bullhead.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f281/how-buy-seiko-6138-0040-0049-bullhead-chronograph-collectors-buying-guide-140801.html
As you may know, the Seiko 5 sports speedtimer dial (assuming the dial is original to this watch) indicates that this particular bull head was sold in Japan (JDM model). One way to tell if the tachy bezel is an original from seiko is to see if the yellow/cream markers next to the numbers on the tachy scale extend to the part of the bezel which folds to the back, adjacent to its perimeter next to the crystal. The imitations from Philippines normally have these markers printed flat on the surface of the bezel and you can see the whole of the markers faced up.
Wear in good health. Hope the above is of some guide to you.
Thanks so much, Enkidu! The comprehensive guide is very helpful indeed. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Bang for the buck watch
Here is mine before it went to a new home
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w499/pamristi/FFDB51D1-7B9C-4AE8-9059-6D1025D68056-553-0000003977DEAA40.jpg)
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Have you considered this one? You will need to top up a bit more thou.
(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f21/287281d1274355219-leather-strap-orange-monster-aviatorpro-6.jpg)
That's the older Orange Monster with the original 7s26 movement. Non-hacking (second hand won't stop when you pull out the crown to adjust the time) and non-hand winding (you can't wind the watch manually to "power it up", you have to shake it/wear it). Kind of inconvenient IMO as sometimes you need to wind it up before going to sleep or over a weekend if you don't want to wake up to a "dead" watch.
Slightly more expensive is the latest Orange Monster (SRP309K1) with the latest 4r36 movement. Hackable and hand-windable.
The indices (time markings on the dial) are triangular on the new model (square on the older model).
(http://i.imgur.com/xITbE4r.jpg)
On a third party orange NATO strap.
Dear Lurch
Should consider getting this SKX781 (7S26) model as it fits your requirement exactly.
Otherwise you can considered this SRP283 (bracelet modified), hack and manual winding capability
Both around the price you are asking for.
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/leong33/095_zps9f9ebce8.jpg)
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Dear Lurch
Should consider getting this SKX781 (7S26) model as it fits your requirement exactly.
He thinks that the monster's bezel is too loud, he prefer more seamaster look.
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Came across this watch in one of the watch forums
And thought it look really good. Questions
1/ where can I get one in Klg valley?
2/ what is the going price?
3/ have not owned a seiko before, are they durable?
Thanks
(http://www.nzwatches.com/image-remote/upload/product/sport%20watches/seiko%205%20automatic%20diver/snzf19j1_01.jpg)
I recall seeing the SNZF19 in Setia Mall. Don't remember which shop though.
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Yes, I do realise Seiko-5 is not very precise. however, mine keep time pretty well, relatively. Cannot ignore the fact that it is very cheap.
After this thread, I just started a accuracy test on my seiko-5. Will update in a few days time. It won't be as thorough as the one did by our friend here Empty Tree thou. I don't have OCD. ;D
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,8522.0.html
Sorry for quoting my own post, hope there's no taboo here.
After a week long of non-scientific, unprecise test, I found out that my Seiko 5 is running on average +6.5 seconds.
Not too bad.
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One of my friend wearing this. look nice under the lighting. :thumbsup:
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Always buy a watch that you like and will enjoy wearing it. So if you like this Seiko-5, bring it home with you.
However, before you took the plunge, I do recommend you to take a look at this. Just to compare. The price difference is almost negligible. .
(http://www.discountwatchstore.com/assets/images/Orient/EM6500AM.jpg)
EM6500AM aka Orient Ray aka Orient New Mako.
Guys, I am actually looking forward to get myself a Orient Mako or Orient Ray, any recommended watch shop in KL/PJ area that sell these Orient watches?
Thanks!
i saw that Orient in person before. not too bad considering the difference is about RM80-100 more only.
thinking, thinking
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sorry to bring up an old post.
somehow i settled for the pepsi version instead of the orange one... hehe
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/Kashurra/1002266_10151526876903177_527236723_n.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/Kashurra/1013439_10151526883788177_1732719086_n.jpg)
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(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w499/pamristi/CCB7581B-0CF5-4744-B9D3-212289681210-763-00000077998CEFC7.jpg)