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Title: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on February 28, 2010, 07:13:44 PM
Happily wearing my Sinn one fine day.. took a glance on my wrist to check the time. Something look amiss.... something missing.. took a closer look. The bloody 12 o'clock lume marker in the bezel dropped off.

I've read horror stories about Sinn's buld quality all over the net but just brushed it off as an unlucky buyer of a lemon. guess i bought a key lime pie in mine; slightly tart but still good. So keeping my fingers crossed nothing major aka no more trolls/gremlins.

Sent it to THG. Forgot to take a photo to show all you guys here.

Anyone here having issues with their Sinn?
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: sshark on February 28, 2010, 07:20:45 PM
Sorry to hear that. I thought the marker was  "welded" into the bezel. After hearing ur story, I reckon the marker is glued to the bezel. Is it the black sinn u bought from HQ?
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on February 28, 2010, 08:00:33 PM
yeah...it;s jsut glued on... hahah manage to find the bit on the floor.

now's the ever  long wait for THG to get back to me :Laughing_on_floor:

anyway.... i've got frankfurt coming next month. anyone need anything?
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: takashi78 on February 28, 2010, 08:05:06 PM
How old is the watch?

Do you do any sports or heavy duty wrist shaking?

Sorry to hear bout it man...hope they give you a new dial and not just "glue" the marker back.
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: takashi78 on February 28, 2010, 08:06:06 PM

anyway.... i've got frankfurt coming next month. anyone need anything?

Whats good in Frankfurt? hehe
Or rather whats worth to buy?
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on February 28, 2010, 08:10:10 PM
How old is the watch?

Do you do any sports or heavy duty wrist shaking?

Sorry to hear bout it man...hope they give you a new dial and not just "glue" the marker back.


wah how "heavy" of a "wrist shaking" does it take to shake off a lume marker? :Laughing_on_floor:

i kept the lume marker.... they better not jsut glue it in (i hope :P)  :Mad:

dunno if THG would get the replacement part and do the servicing in SG or send the whole thing back to frankfurt. if it;s the latter...maybe i cna go down to Sinn and check on it.



Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on February 28, 2010, 08:12:03 PM

anyway.... i've got frankfurt coming next month. anyone need anything?

Whats good in Frankfurt? hehe
Or rather whats worth to buy?

eh nothing kua.... Sinn lor. with the euro at it;s current low... it;s quite attractive. also Designer bags lor...i'm sure the girls would go crazy now

will try to get some catalogs for you guys if i happen to be in the factory. would be great for a GTG lucky draw.

Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on February 28, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
ooops forgot about the age.

bought it in November... with 2 years warranty. sigh.......... :-[
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: takashi78 on February 28, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
Since you might be going to Sinn factory might as well bring it in there.
Can directly get support from the HQ.

BTW is it the one you bought when you were visiting the factory before?
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on February 28, 2010, 08:28:09 PM
yeah it;s the same one i bought when i was down there the last time

the watch was dropped with THG couple of weeks back.

Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: dennis.T on March 01, 2010, 10:05:04 AM
Terrence, may i check with u...how much the Sinn U1 selling in Frankfurt? Pls reply me via PM.. thanks in advance
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: JPSP on March 01, 2010, 07:33:36 PM

anyway.... i've got frankfurt coming next month. anyone need anything?

Whats good in Frankfurt? hehe
Or rather whats worth to buy?

you'll find a lot of old vintage IWC pocket watches...you can actually get the watch maker to convert it into a watch...
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 01, 2010, 07:46:39 PM
cool!!! so where should i go to look out for it?

jsut came back from Zurich and saw tons of vintage omegas and zeniths

wanted to take the train to biel for the omega museum but saw on their site that it's closed till april for reno  :'(
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: takashi78 on March 01, 2010, 09:00:08 PM
Wow looks like your job take you to interesting places eh....
vintage zenith or iwc sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: dennis.T on March 01, 2010, 09:13:35 PM
how to convert from pocket watches to wrist watches?? sound interesting...perhaps Terrence should get 1 and demonstrate to us.... :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 01, 2010, 09:39:57 PM
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/terrenceterrenceterrence/DSC01500.jpg)


here you go guys...IWC on the top shelf and Omegas and Misc on the bottom
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 01, 2010, 10:53:52 PM
http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/beyer-jewelers-museum-celebrating-250.html

too bad this post came a few days too late. passed by this shop and thought nothing much about it. Looks like another Wempe or Bucherer (german version of our Sincere and THG)

if i knew any better i would certainly pay the admission fee to their museum.

well next time then.....
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: takashi78 on March 02, 2010, 04:55:06 AM
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/terrenceterrenceterrence/DSC01500.jpg)


here you go guys...IWC on the top shelf and Omegas and Misc on the bottom

Oh my.....alot of vintage stuff there.
How are the prices of those pieces?
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: dennis.T on March 02, 2010, 06:56:26 AM
pardon me for i can only recognise the 3rd pc on the top shelf is IWC portuguese laureus.. :HammerHead: tat is the lovely Panda watches... :Cheers:
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 02, 2010, 09:39:20 AM
not cheap especially with the strength of the Swiss Franc and also their overhead is astronomical.

but although i have not spoken to those europeans but i do find that the Swiss and Germans like their Omegas more while the Italians love their Rolex. This is purely through observation from the ppl around the street.

Maybe if i go to the French speaking part of Switzerland i might spot more Rolexes? who knows. maybe someone can confirm.
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 06, 2010, 11:21:14 PM
just got a call from THG.

they bloody wnat me to pay SGD50 to replace the bezel because it's considered as an external defect and is not covered under warranty.

 I was like WTF??!!!! :Mad:

this is clearly not a fault of mine and definitely a manufacturing defect. so why should i pay to get it replaced?

the marker sits flushed to the bezel and no amount of scratches would dislodge the thing. unless they did not apply/glue the marker securely themselves.

read on WUS and it seems like this is not uncommon.

i e-mailed Sinn directly and is awaiting their reply.

so the saga continues........
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: chrisyen on March 07, 2010, 09:05:26 AM
its a big blow to sinn.... they r pushing their price to match the pam...
but they never improve their qc....
i read manya many sinn qc problem for the past few yrs...

in fact i hv a few bad experience with sinn last time as well.... i bought a u blacks last time... i found
1 the bezel doesnt align with dial
1 crystal is scratched inner side
1 screw in crown is rough n hv weird sound when u screw in....
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: sshark on March 07, 2010, 10:28:47 AM
just got a call from THG.

they bloody wnat me to pay SGD50 to replace the bezel because it's considered as an external defect and is not covered under warranty.

That's really pissed off. For the price we paid, I would expect the marker to be fused with the bezel and lasted as long as the bezel itself. This is clearly poor QC. Sinn need to buckle up before putting out PAM (as Chris mentioned) price for it
Title: Re: Missing my Sinn : Build Quality Issues...
Post by: ck77 on March 07, 2010, 12:37:09 PM
 :thumbsdown: for Sinn as they always brag about their German technology.