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Main Forums => Watch Reviews => Topic started by: ck77 on January 24, 2010, 07:46:17 PM
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Received my first homage (http://tamhk.com/mwf/index.php/topic,647.0.html) watch on 21 January 2010 from Getat.
Watch was ordered and paid on 24 December 2009 and the shipment was stuck in HK post office for some times due to some issue. Communication via email was ok but reply often delay by 2-3 days, he is trying his best to answer all my quiries.
The specification:-
Movement: Asian Unitas 6497 stainless steel
Case: 47mm without crown 316L polished steel with doom plexiglass
Dial: California sandwich (he claimed better lume than painted dial)
Thanks ckng515 for letting me try on his destro 47mm homage MM, looks ok on my wrist. I chose this homage Pam3646 because it is the original, simplest, basic design and I like the unique California dial, no wordings so eliminate the possible wordings misaligned issue.
Outter box
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/DSC_6172.jpg)
Inner box secured by bubble wrap
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/DSC_6173.jpg)
Simple watch case with bubble wrap and plastic to protect the watch
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/DSC_6174.jpg)
Lastly, wrist shot, surprisingly not looking too huge on my wrist ;D
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/DSC_6171.jpg)
The watch is currenly under 'treatment' and more detailed technical review will be posted by Chris 8)
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Good looking.. I like the dial :thumbsup:
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Hi ck77,
Sorry to learn that your experience with getat has not been very good.
I have bought 2 watches from him and the i waited approx. 2 weeks for each watch. He made one error with my 1st watch; the hands was the wrong colour. But he contra the price of the hands for my next watch so no complaints. I was satisfied with both watches.
But this was before he got popular amongst the homage community. I guess when his sales volume went up, he does not have the capacity to accommodate. Hence I've read about slow turnaround time, slow e-mail responses, wrong orders arriving in the post, inconsistent QC etc...
One positive about getat is the straps (which you can customize) which I think is really good quality for its price.
Anyway, the sandwich dial looks really nice! Did you get the superlume option for the dial?
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as per CK request.... i'm helping him to write a review on this watch....
i received this watch from CK77 yesterday due to its running an hour ++ faster in a day!
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0001.jpg)
when i took this out from my pocket... a wire lug is loosen... lucky the screw is still there....
first impression bout the case and dial
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_00022.jpg)
the watch doesnt look like a 3646 to me...
the case shape bid odd... the dial look rather small.... the crown more to radiormir than 3646..
the mineral crystal wasnt tall enough...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_00122.jpg)
the hands is black, vintage pam is either gold or blued...
the california dial is sandwich.... with orangy lume... the hand also orangy but both color not matching....
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0010.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0013.jpg)
the watchmaker carelessly left some dirt on at 4, 5 & 6....
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0074.jpg)
the screw in crown is difficult to screw in.. not smooth at all... at closer look... yes, its dirty and rough...
the leather strap is good looking from far.... thick and smooth stitching...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0012.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0014.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0015.jpg)
however i dont understand why the thread end like that, i believe is due to using nylon thread.... not those waxed thread.... because if it is a higher end waxed thread, it wont reverse through stitching hole even u didnt tie the end
so... i wonder the big thread tied knob will scratch my hand... let me try it tomorrow...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0016.jpg)
i'm surprise the caseback is not close tied... i can use my hand to open it... lucky ck never ask me to test the wr....
the movement is china made... no sure is tianjing or seagull
yes CK... it is loud... much louder than a std 6497
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0050.jpg)
good or bad is relative... so i compare this with a soprod finished eta6498-1
the bridges look like a 6497 clone... but bridges been finished with cote de geneva(cdg), blued screws, pam alike swan neck regulator added!
made in china (mic)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0053.jpg)
eta
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0054.jpg)
as u can see... the mic is even have is edge trimmed.. but not well polished...
even the cdg is rough....
mic
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0055.jpg)
eta
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0056.jpg)
another look, the ctg is obviously rough...
mic
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0061.jpg)
eta
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0062.jpg)
i notice below the balance wheel, eta has 2 blued screws... mic only has one non blue screw
mic
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0073.jpg)
the screw locking the crown stem is screw n unscrew by wrong size of of screwdriver before...
and the untrained watchmaker actually left some dust nearby...
mic
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0072.jpg)
eta
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0070.jpg)
eta used incabloc... mic must be using its own design... or another clone :Laughing_on_floor:
mic
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0076.jpg)
eta
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0077.jpg)
eta used chemical blued screw i believed... the color is very consistent... mic blued the screw like pam n other higher end watches... even the screw driver flat plat touching sunken part also blued, likely chemical blued as well....
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0006.jpg)
the watch gaining an hour ++ aday.... interesting... but it was consistently faster.... so i was thinking to adjust the balance and see...
found the swan neck can only do very little adjustment.... because the adjusting screw is so short to its adjusting index
so when i wanna make more adjustment.. the swan neck adjusting screw is just too short...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_0018.jpg)
in order to adjust to an hour slower.... i even get the swan neck head out from pushing the balance spring adjustment needle....
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/getat%203646%20homage%20ck77/DSC_00142.jpg)
i dont hv the timing machine at home... so far its running + few second to my phone after 5 hours....
PS - lazy to make a lume short... but i can tell the sandwich dial lume is poor.... the hands is ok...
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Wow nice one Chris !
Good comparison and can clearly see the diff.
I also just received my watch frm Getat but am more lucky than CK that the watch runs fine, havent really check accuracy though.
I agree that you get what you paid for so i have no complaints.
Too bad i dont have camera which can do macro shoot or even decent shoots for that matter.
Care to review mine as well? ;D
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Wow, Chris. Good marco shots. I am impressed.
Good review too.
I, too, had the same merchandise from getat. However, i do not have much problem on the watch. My pc is running fine.
After all, I agreed with Peter. What you paid is what you get. And after reading the review from Chris, I feel blessed with the 2533 from him (Chris). And I am withdrawing my sales from the Sales Corner.....
dc
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Many thanks Chris for your detailed review :thumbsup:
No matter how close to 3646, this is a fun watch to me 8) When you pay peanuts, you get monkey :Dancing_banana:
Just hope that it can keep the 'correct' time for few years :Praying:
Hush, guess am unlucky here and no, I didn't opt for the superlume. Yes, strap is good and I can smell the leather.
takashi, glad to hear yours is ok.
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update....
wearing this since 730am....
the watch is running fine after.... not time with machine... but within the min with my iphone time after 2 hour....
the crown is not well finish... painful to screw n unscrew...
the strap like i said... the end stitch was tied... that scratch to my hand a little...
ck - u wanna re stitch this? i hv quite similar color thread.... buy me another coffee.... :Laughing_on_floor:
takashi - u r right.... for the price u pay for... no complaint.... as long as it run within a min a day... just a thick leather strap already cost u 1/3 of the price....
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update....
wearing this since 730am....
the watch is running fine after.... not time with machine... but within the min with my iphone time after 2 hour....
the crown is not well finish... painful to screw n unscrew...
the strap like i said... the end stitch was tied... that scratch to my hand a little...
ck - u wanna re stitch this? i hv quite similar color thread.... buy me another coffee.... :Laughing_on_floor:
Chris, have to buy you nasi lemak plus cofee liao :laugh: If you got time and won't neglect little Chris, I don't mind :Dancing_banana:
One thing Chris, can you confirm this is 6497 or 6498?
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Chris, have to buy you nasi lemak plus cofee liao :laugh: If you got time and won't neglect little Chris, I don't mind :Dancing_banana:
One thing Chris, can you confirm this is 6497 or 6498?
thats how i pass my time in weekend... play with my little chris.......
after he sleep.... then i'll hv 1 hour plus to cook, clean, shoot photo, read paper, online... watches!
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/bb/DSC_0708.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/yenfoolun/bb/DSC_0042-1.jpg)
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CK,
I got the superlume ver, and i can tell ya it still wont last long. maybe just abit longer than my SD lume.
Chris,
Lets meet up this weekend and i pass you mine to compare with CK's and see if any diff, lunch of coffee on me haha.
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Chris, which watch you will pass down to little Chris? ;D
Okok, let's do a GTG this weekend :Dancing_banana:
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Chris, which watch you will pass down to little Chris? ;D
Okok, let's do a GTG this weekend :Dancing_banana:
a homage..... :Laughing_on_floor:
saturday lunch mayb.... night time got dinner...
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Update.
Getat has refunded some cost to me, +1 to him :thumbsup: Chris, buy you lunch :Laughing_on_floor:
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Sat lunch sounds good.
Location Bangsar or KL or any other place?
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Update.
Getat has refunded some cost to me, +1 to him :thumbsup: Chris, buy you lunch :Laughing_on_floor:
Props to Getat for doing the right thing.
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Update.
Getat has refunded some cost to me, +1 to him :thumbsup: Chris, buy you lunch :Laughing_on_floor:
yes. he still earn his respect this way...
i hv got 3 times partial refund like that due to problem with watches....
i repair here n seller pay....
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:Cheers: u guys know each other?
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i'm looking for a good homage as well :Confused:
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Dude...u definitely own some very good camera with a good lens...that pretty much i can say....hehhe
Nonetheless great attention to details from you...Love reading your review...
Will share mine when i got it...till then...cheers
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My two Homage say 'HI' to all
The LH pc use the authentic swiss movement - This pc from chrisyen
The RH pc 1950 use the asian movement - This pc is for sales.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/David_cheong_album/Homage006a.jpg)
dc
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i just got my first pam homage from jackson tse...must say i m not impressed at all...i know i m only paying USD123 for the item, but the QC is quite bad...there is speck of white particle at between the 10 n 11 o'clock position...not sure if it is dust or wat.....sandwich lume is dirty n patchy - this is visible from a dirty blob at the '12' numerals, specifically the digit '1'....lume is patchy if u look closely at nite....the crown guard came not screwed in completely flush to the case...had to DIY a bit...buckle was scratched...all in all, this is a brand new watch...i did not expect it 2 even match my 104 at all, but there r just 2 many signs of very poor workmanship n negligence...i have emailed jackson last nite but he has not replied till now...shall wait some more n see....wat do u guys think of my experience??..any comments or advice??...feel free 2 add here....cheers...
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I think you should wait for a while. Maybe he is on holiday now. I've been email Marco Corp Malaysia (Casio) about a doubt 16 days ago... until now no response.... maybe they're too busy.... :Mad: Poor customer services.... :thumbsdown:
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i just got my first pam homage from jackson tse...must say i m not impressed at all...i know i m only paying USD123 for the item, but the QC is quite bad...there is speck of white particle at between the 10 n 11 o'clock position...not sure if it is dust or wat.....sandwich lume is dirty n patchy - this is visible from a dirty blob at the '12' numerals, specifically the digit '1'....lume is patchy if u look closely at nite....the crown guard came not screwed in completely flush to the case...had to DIY a bit...buckle was scratched...all in all, this is a brand new watch...i did not expect it 2 even match my 104 at all, but there r just 2 many signs of very poor workmanship n negligence...i have emailed jackson last nite but he has not replied till now...shall wait some more n see....wat do u guys think of my experience??..any comments or advice??...feel free 2 add here....cheers...
Well, their QC is really a hit and miss. Let's wait for his reply, perhaps can get some refund (like in my case). Do post the review of your homage.
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i just got my first pam homage from jackson tse...must say i m not impressed at all...i know i m only paying USD123 for the item, but the QC is quite bad...there is speck of white particle at between the 10 n 11 o'clock position...not sure if it is dust or wat.....sandwich lume is dirty n patchy - this is visible from a dirty blob at the '12' numerals, specifically the digit '1'....lume is patchy if u look closely at nite....the crown guard came not screwed in completely flush to the case...had to DIY a bit...buckle was scratched...all in all, this is a brand new watch...i did not expect it 2 even match my 104 at all, but there r just 2 many signs of very poor workmanship n negligence...i have emailed jackson last nite but he has not replied till now...shall wait some more n see....wat do u guys think of my experience??..any comments or advice??...feel free 2 add here....cheers...
(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af122/iamadrianlee/Msian%20Watch%20Forum/P1030173.jpg)
My homage from Jackson had the same issues. White particle at 11 o'clock, scratched case, wrong buckle. The thing about Jackson is that he doesn't build the watch, he orders it from a supplier and ships it out to the customer (obviously without checking 1st). I returned the watch to him for an exchange.
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i just got his reply...will b sending it bak 2 him 4 a replacement...but this is a bit too troublesome n too much hassle 4 my liking.... will probably b my last purchase from the guy...not checkin his items b4 sending out is not the way 2 b doin biz...who knows if the replacement is gona b any better??...hav posted some pics here...can u guys see it??...
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hav posted some pics here...can u guys see it??...
No
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Hi to alll the Sifus.. anyone here care to educate me more on HOmeage and where to get them.. seems like a good piece with good price....
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i got another email from jackson..this time i m really pi**ed off....this is his email
"honestly, for scatches to buckle, cg and case, i cannot guarantee the quality. my supplier just replace the watch n we check before sending out. anyway just send back the watch to us."
wat the hell??...this is no way 2 do business...i m asking for a full refund...failing which i will make sure as many ppl out there will know about his way of doing business....
anyway here r the pics of my 1st homage....disappointing really.... :Mad:
(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz24/ckcspice/mm176/MM176-1.jpg)
(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz24/ckcspice/mm176/MM176-2.jpg)
(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz24/ckcspice/mm176/MM176-4.jpg)
(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz24/ckcspice/mm176/MM176-3.jpg)
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Woo... that quite obvious man. For sure they don't have any QC. This is not a good way doing business.... :Blue:
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so nice for the watch... so........ :shocked1:
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he has not replied 2 my email since i have asked for a full refund....sigh...wat 2 do now la??...USD123 down the drain!!!....
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he has not replied 2 my email since i have asked for a full refund....sigh...wat 2 do now la??...USD123 down the drain!!!....
Bro u purchase using Paypal and all? if u purchase using paypal, you can file for a dispute.. if u using CC and direct from the seller.. then, have to wait....
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u can bring in up in the homage forum
he has a thread there
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i paid using paypal...how to dispute??...can teach me??...never done it b4...
i m in the homage forum as well...i wont hentam him yet...cos i wana b nice n c wat is his response...looks like he is ignoring me since i said i want a full refund...hmmm :Mad:
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i think you only can dispute if non-received of the item. you cant dispute if item received but damaged or not according to sales discriptions.
i might be wrong though.
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its ok..i finally got his reply...he will refund once he receives the watch....i m sending it bak 2 him tomoro....hav 2 bear the postage costs myself.... :(
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its ok..i finally got his reply...he will refund once he receives the watch....i m sending it bak 2 him tomoro....hav 2 bear the postage costs myself.... :(
Bro.. look at the bright side.... as long as u can get back the money.. :) rite? rather than down the drain.. :)
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after getting more orders, the QC has not been good.
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my other fren bought a piece from him as well..keeping fingers crossed...if not good quality, will have 2 ask 4 refund as well...n then no more jackson in the future...
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jackson has received the watch i posted bak to him...m waiting for him 2 give me a refund...luckily i can get my money bak...
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tcvBZO9vnuY/SLTVQs-iYMI/AAAAAAAAEgA/qhg6Z64koJE/s400/IMG_4321.JPG)
this is my RXW from japan. :)
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Gd to c another rxw owner here
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this is my RXW from japan. :)
one of the best out there :thumbsup:
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Nice for your watch....
are you watchmaker or wat?
i Like y0ou!!
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Nice for your watch....
are you watchmaker or wat?
i Like y0ou!!
Not much of a watchmaker but more of a watch lover/s
dc
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OooOoo....
I saw you guy all so pro, and i just a newbie here...alot of thing can learn from you guys....
I wish to be a watchmaker..haha...my dream is to create and design my own movement...LOLX!
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OooOoo....
I saw you guy all so pro, and i just a newbie here...alot of thing can learn from you guys....
I wish to be a watchmaker..haha...my dream is to create and design my own movement...LOLX!
swatch acedemy is in msia... go for it... ur dream not difficult to achieve
n timezone also provide online distant learning
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OooOoo....
I saw you guy all so pro, and i just a newbie here...alot of thing can learn from you guys....
I wish to be a watchmaker..haha...my dream is to create and design my own movement...LOLX!
swatch acedemy is in msia... go for it... ur dream not difficult to achieve
n timezone also provide online distant learning
Just for info...The college is in Bukit Jalil TPM...hehe :Cheers:
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i plan to get a homage MM 3646 from getat ... :Laughing_on_floor: today found some MM near S.wang cost RM 200 the crown guard is losing , the funny part the movement PANNY word engraving is sticker already fall out LOL .. the worst i ever see :(
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i am kinda getting interested in these homage watches...especially the MM. still learning.
correct me if i am wrong, but arent these watches considered fakes?
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i am kinda getting interested in these homage watches...especially the MM. still learning.
correct me if i am wrong, but arent these watches considered fakes?
You can say is copycat, but it is not fake. (No fake discussion in this forum, by the way)
Fake is those watches in Petaling Street that violate the copyright.
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Share post ....
Just get my PAM homage from P.S Boutique i cant believe i can found there
This PAM homage no longer available i almost check all the store and this also
the last unit. Now hunting for California dial and the store owner say if want California dial
he might able to get from another store but chances is low due no more carry for this model
mostly carry for new model those with crown guard :D .....
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/844/img1609y.jpg)
I Luv the back case using the R@lex vintage case
I not to open the case by myself due there give warranty for 3 months and he open
the case n show to me is using Asian 6497 without swan neck
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7576/img1646qq.jpg)
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6048/img1631ae.jpg)
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Share post ....
Just get my PAM homage from P.S Boutique i cant believe i can found there
This PAM homage no longer available i almost check all the store and this also
the last unit. Now hunting for California dial and the store owner say if want California dial
he might able to get from another store but chances is low due no more carry for this model
mostly carry for new model those with crown guard :D .....
I Luv the back case using the R@lex vintage case
I not to open the case by myself due there give warranty for 3 months and he open
the case n show to me is using Asian 6497 without swan neck
Very nice :thumbsup: How's the lume?
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Lume is not that good worst than my Citizen and Orient
if guys interested try to look at P.S but most of this watch they not display must ask him u want those good quality, those display out is those grade C finishing not good,
dial cacat and is not look good u saw it also feel vomit
:Laughing_on_floor:
Share some of my collection
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6494/img1669l.jpg)
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Thanks ckng515 for letting me try on his destro 47mm homage MM, looks ok on my wrist.
If you dont mind me asking, what is your wrist size? I interested in some 47mm watches too, but a bit concerned that it might be too big for my wrist. The 47mm watch looks good on your wrist, though.
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i just use 45mm is look just fit .. above that is abit weird for me
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gosh....u gt really a good camera in order to get such close shot
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mmmm.. considering to get a 44mm black PVD... and perhaps swap with rubber strap?
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Wow great homage. Thanks for the detailed story. :Dancing_banana:
I've got an "Asian Unitas 6497" movement in a PAM 6152 homage that's running a little too fast. About 5-7 minutes per 24 hours I think. :Mad: Does anyone know where I can get it fixed?
Thanks!
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Wow great homage. Thanks for the detailed story. :Dancing_banana:
I've got an "Asian Unitas 6497" movement in a PAM 6152 homage that's running a little too fast. About 5-7 minutes per 24 hours I think. :Mad: Does anyone know where I can get it fixed?
Thanks!
Try to look for the +/- near the balance wheel if fast - it a little bit than monitor is for 1 day below 5 min a day should be ok due not swiss movement heheh if still cant
i think the manufacture put oiling too much may effect also soo far my one quite accurate 1min slow for 1 day.If cant find it u can take picture of your movement i truy to show u
the location but some of the Asian 6497 is non adjustable u wont able to find the +/- than u cant adjust it....
Hope this picture help u (with Swan Neck) some of the 6497 wont have the swan neck
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo208/martin_nspm/calif_macro1.jpg)
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This my second PAM Cali homage
(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/abelwoo/IMAG0046.jpg)
i got another PAM homage DIY to vintage look below is the things i mod ....
(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/abelwoo/IMAG0041-1.jpg)
(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/abelwoo/IMAG0042-1.jpg)
(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/abelwoo/IMAG0043-1.jpg)
Before
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/844/img1609y.jpg)
After ..... coming soon please stay tune
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I saw quite a number of forumers here bought homage.
Some are really nice, value for $$$.
I am wondering about the after sales services.
Anyone mind to share their experience with homage?
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depends what the homage movement use .... if chinese movement not worth to repair ... i normally keep spare movement
This my vintage homage i DIY myself
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk272/cuoreboy/IMG_7166-.jpg)
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depends what the homage movement use .... if chinese movement not worth to repair ... i normally keep spare movement
This my vintage homage i DIY myself
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk272/cuoreboy/IMG_7166-.jpg)
very nice....
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I think GEtat is famous for his after sales services and also the watch strap~
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Wow! Ck really sounds like a pro! But not only sounds like! I mean-He is a Pro! Even the photoshoot was amazing! Pin point each and every pros and cons of a homage!
But i do agree that you pay peanut and u get monkey! These homage watches is best as toy watch!