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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: bryank on November 27, 2012, 01:05:58 PM
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Hi to all the Sifus! I am a complete newbie when it comes to watches. Have been reading this forum for the past month.
I have a budget of around RM20k. Was looking at Rolex primarily. Due to my 7.5" wrist, i was eyeing the Deepsea, but gave up once I found out the price!
Recently I was offered by a friend of mine, his GMT Pepsi or Sub 50th AnniversaryEd (green bezel).
Which one would you guys recommend?
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Sub LV first and the Pepsi later.
The prices for LV has been rising steadily and there are tons of Pepsi in the market, this prices for Pepsi is quite steady. You can always get it later.
Just my 2 rupiah
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both are nice, but i'd go for better value, sub :)
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The Sub has a black dial with green sub... It's an older model rite? As most of the Green Subs has both green dial & bezel...
What price shud i expect for this pre-owned Sub?
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Older discont model.
Black maxi dial with green bezel.
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GMT Pepsi all day.
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SubLV: 3
GMT Pepsi: 1
Seems like the LV is much desired?
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sub lv :Jumping:
green is in
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GMT Pepsi....and that's a bias answer cos i just got mine.
But I guess you will need to consider the factors;
- Complete or incomplete
- Condition
- Year
- Price
Pepsi's got an additional complication....so depends on how much you value the GMT function
The Sub LV is iconic too
My advise....try both on your wrist and see which one "sings" to you more
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Can anyone tell me roughly how much should I expect the prices for these 2 pre-owned models ?
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Can anyone tell me roughly how much should I expect the prices for these 2 pre-owned models ?
depending on those factors.....i think maybe about 3k diff, the GMT being the cheaper....base on what i have seen
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My take:
If this is your 1st rolex sports, take the all black.
Usually pepsi, green, coke or rootbeer is/are our 2nd or 3rd rolie.
With black, not outstanding but all seasons.
With pepsi, it means your are either a collector or love classic, a statement.
With green, a Special edition but hard to be a daily beater.
Thats my opinion, only.
Sm
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then again there is alway a blue option aka "smurf"
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My take:
If this is your 1st rolex sports, take the all black.
Usually pepsi, green, coke or rootbeer is/are our 2nd or 3rd rolie.
With black, not outstanding but all seasons.
With pepsi, it means your are either a collector or love classic, a statement.
With green, a Special edition but hard to be a daily beater.
Thats my opinion, only.
Sm
SM....thats exactly what I thought about the green LV....its quite blingy for daily beater
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here is a comparison wrist shot for you
Pepsi
(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o488/foowy22/IMG_8001.jpg)
Green LV
(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o488/foowy22/IMG_0381.jpg)
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Hi to all the Sifus! I am a complete newbie when it comes to watches. Have been reading this forum for the past month.
I have a budget of around RM20k. Was looking at Rolex primarily. Due to my 7.5" wrist, i was eyeing the Deepsea, but gave up once I found out the price!
Recently I was offered by a friend of mine, his GMT Pepsi or Sub 50th AnniversaryEd (green bezel).
Which one would you guys recommend?
Personally, I won't pay the premium for the 50th anniversary Sub (16610LV). The asking prices for a pre-owned one is now around and some above RM20k. I would suggest going for the "Hulk" 116610V. Newer model, better bracelet and clasp and a stunning green dial. Moreover, the 16610LV is probably about 5 years or older and you'd want to send it for a service which should run above RM2k.
But if you really like the 16610LV and your friend is willing to give you a good deal, why not? Watches rarely sell at their asking prices anyway.
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here is a comparison wrist shot for you
Pepsi
(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o488/foowy22/IMG_8001.jpg)
Green LV
(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o488/foowy22/IMG_0381.jpg)
Walaueh.... wat can I say... now I must have both liao
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Hi to all the Sifus! I am a complete newbie when it comes to watches. Have been reading this forum for the past month.
I have a budget of around RM20k. Was looking at Rolex primarily. Due to my 7.5" wrist, i was eyeing the Deepsea, but gave up once I found out the price!
Recently I was offered by a friend of mine, his GMT Pepsi or Sub 50th AnniversaryEd (green bezel).
Which one would you guys recommend?
Personally, I won't pay the premium for the 50th anniversary Sub (16610LV). The asking prices for a pre-owned one is now around and some above RM20k. I would suggest going for the "Hulk" 116610V. Newer model, better bracelet and clasp and a stunning green dial. Moreover, the 16610LV is probably about 5 years or older and you'd want to send it for a service which should run above RM2k.
But if you really like the 16610LV and your friend is willing to give you a good deal, why not? Watches rarely sell at their asking prices anyway.
Ermm... then getting a new Sub No Date is also an option now? Cos the Hulk now is almost 30k!
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Ermm... then getting a new Sub No Date is also an option now? Cos the Hulk now is almost 30k!
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That makes your decision easier then...
if its between the Sub ND and the Pepsi......then the Pepsi still makes a better choice ;D
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Sub lv first thn gmt Pepsi..btw, I am looking for complete set gmt Pepsi.. Any one here got one for sale? ;D
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Hi to all the Sifus! I am a complete newbie when it comes to watches. Have been reading this forum for the past month.
I have a budget of around RM20k. Was looking at Rolex primarily. Due to my 7.5" wrist, i was eyeing the Deepsea, but gave up once I found out the price!
Recently I was offered by a friend of mine, his GMT Pepsi or Sub 50th AnniversaryEd (green bezel).
Which one would you guys recommend?
Personally, I won't pay the premium for the 50th anniversary Sub (16610LV). The asking prices for a pre-owned one is now around and some above RM20k. I would suggest going for the "Hulk" 116610V. Newer model, better bracelet and clasp and a stunning green dial. Moreover, the 16610LV is probably about 5 years or older and you'd want to send it for a service which should run above RM2k.
But if you really like the 16610LV and your friend is willing to give you a good deal, why not? Watches rarely sell at their asking prices anyway.
Ermm... then getting a new Sub No Date is also an option now? Cos the Hulk now is almost 30k!
Forget the Submariner (there is no Sub No Date). You were looking at pre-owned anyway and the 116610LV is around the 25k mark or slightly less when you find one. There are a few out there...
Personally, I find no attachment to a GMT in whatever flavour, even though everyone out there tells me it's as iconic as a black Submariner Date.
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i would go with Green Sub LV... Then again up to ur personal preference...
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The green sub pictured has the yellowish green bezel insert .Some examples I have seen are darker green and looks less conspicuous and more attractive IMO.
My take is take the kermit as this is more collectible than the new hulk or the pepsi
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Sub LV yes 50th anniversary but don't forget it is not your everyday Sub. It's a maxi dial Sub. And if you can stand the color green on the bezel then why not. You must like it in order to get one. A Sub is a Sub. I now want a GMT Pepsi. For a budget of 20k u will still have loose change if you so choose the Pepsi. Ask yourself why Pepsi. LV maybe not. Happy problem if you ask me.
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Like Terrence said..... there is a lot of preowned Pepsi in the market...
go for Sub LV first then only consider Pepsi or COke along the way.....
Happy hunting bro....
:Cheers:
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Really grateful for all your advices :thumbsup: , will try to see which "sings" to me, :laugh:
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Get the new GMT Master IIc with the black ceramic bezel. Then the pepsi or the Hulk. Next in line would be TT, or solid gold, 41mm Datejust. :thumbsup:
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Get the new GMT Master IIc with the black ceramic bezel. Then the pepsi or the Hulk. Next in line would be TT, or solid gold, 41mm Datejust. :thumbsup:
Do you mind telling me why so? Cos I'm a complete newbie to luxury watch and and keen to learn...
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So you're new to luxury watch and probably Rolex as well. Some tips:
1. Don't buy a luxury watch because it's presumed to be "collectible" or "rare".
2. Take your time to choose a watch you like, not what others say is the "best" model. Arguably, many will insist a first Rolex must be a Submariner Date or GMT Master II. I liked neither at first and got the Explorer II which nobody likes.
3. Don't believe that you cannot lose money buying a Rolex. The amount you lose is small or large depending on whether you bought it new or used. Even if you buy pre-owned from a dealer, expect to lose at least 10% if you decide to trade it in later, say within a year or two.
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Even u sell at no lost in price... In actual u r loosing ------ inflation...
Ur gain is to wear Rolek!!!
Ur bigger gain is u wear a new rolek!!!
So u pay for what u get... Fair right?
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It should be the LV .tony.
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Depends on which Pepsi. 16750, 16710 or 16700?
I would choose the 16750 over the LV.
I love the idea of the LV but hate it as a watch. Mainly because there nothing in my wardrobe to match it. :P
The Pepsi is an all out icon. A pilot watch from Rolex so we can't really compare it with the LV which is a pimped modern Sub (but not tacky).
I guess it is best to try to wear both for an extended time (not 5 mins) and compare which one really make you feel " Aaaaaa......" then consider the price and exit strategy. Ultimately what is a watch that rise in value if you don't love it. We only make/lose money if we sell but if you love the watch so much then you won't sell so you make or lose any money :)
Hope it helps
Regard
Tyler
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Sub LV !
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Contacted the seller, now I think he is hesitant to sell either one... :Blue:
Might have to drop-by a dealer in Singapore thia Christmas Eve and get a pre-owned unit there
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Neither watch is rare. The 16610LV, if that is what you really want, can be found at a good price with patience, likewise with the GMT Master II
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Neither watch is rare. The 16610LV, if that is what you really want, can be found at a good price with patience, likewise with the GMT Master II
Very true, a quick search in Rolex Owners Club Singapore reveals many pre-owned units for sale. A 06/07 LV asking for abt RM20k. Is it worth it? Cos a brand new Sub C ND is abt RM23k.
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Neither watch is rare. The 16610LV, if that is what you really want, can be found at a good price with patience, likewise with the GMT Master II
Very true, a quick search in Rolex Owners Club Singapore reveals many pre-owned units for sale. A 06/07 LV asking for abt RM20k. Is it worth it? Cos a brand new Sub C ND is abt RM23k.
It's only worth what you are willing to pay. Do you like it enough to pay RM20k for it?
My opinion would be that considering it's about 6 years old, and a RSC service for around RM2-3k, you're getting close to the price for a pre-owned 116610LV, probably with some of the original Rolex 2 year warranty remaining. A much newer watch with a better bracelet and clasp.
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Neither watch is rare. The 16610LV, if that is what you really want, can be found at a good price with patience, likewise with the GMT Master II
Very true, a quick search in Rolex Owners Club Singapore reveals many pre-owned units for sale. A 06/07 LV asking for abt RM20k. Is it worth it? Cos a brand new Sub C ND is abt RM23k.
It's only worth what you are willing to pay. Do you like it enough to pay RM20k for it?
My opinion would be that considering it's about 6 years old, and a RSC service for around RM2-3k, you're getting close to the price for a pre-owned 116610LV, probably with some of the original Rolex 2 year warranty remaining. A much newer watch with a better bracelet and clasp.
116610LV is the one with green dial as well rite? Ceramic bezel as well?
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yes that is right..but the 116610LV cant be had for RM20k. Not even pre-owned.
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my bad.. there is no 116610LV.. it is a 116610V which is green dial with ceramic bezel.
and yes, you cannot get a 116610V at RM20k even if pre-owned. what I intended to say was that a 16610LV at RM20k + RSC service around RM2~3k is getting really close to the price of a pre-owned 116610V.