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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: RaymondT on October 24, 2012, 11:57:07 AM
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Hi Sifus,
Wondering if anyone can gives some input/review.I'm looking for some personal review/opinion as i'm now in the cross road between a PAM00024 or a Rollie Sub.
Honestly , i'm caught between these 2 & my fund permits me to only choose 1. thank you guys!...
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Submariner. Because it is a rolex. Unless you already have a Seadweller, Deepsea Seadweller or any other submariner then I'd go for the PAM00024.
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Sub man...
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Submariner......
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Sub first.. Thn others :thumbsup:
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Thanks guys , How about the reselling value for both ?
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Also submariner......
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Assuming i'm putting a budget of about 15k , which sub model/yr that falls under this range (pre-owned). Guys , pls let me know so that i can start the hunting :)
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Sometimes it is all about luck when it comes to reselling. Sometimes you meet a buyer that really wants what you have and you will suffer minimal to no loss. Sometimes, when you choose to sell at the wrong time i.e: economic downturn, then you will not get a good price. But generally, it is safe to say that Rolex has the better resale value. For RM15k, the new ceramic range such as the 116610 and the 114060 is out of your reach. You can get the non-ceramic range such as the 16610 and the 14060 for that amount. For year, best to get one as new as possible.
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Assuming i'm putting a budget of about 15k , which sub model/yr that falls under this range (pre-owned). Guys , pls let me know so that i can start the hunting :)
yes 15k is suffice for a pre-owned sub.
happy hunting.
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Assuming i'm putting a budget of about 15k , which sub model/yr that falls under this range (pre-owned). Guys , pls let me know so that i can start the hunting :)
A mint condition no date sub . If you don't own a rollie yet,
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Is there any particular point that i will need to look out for when getting a pre-owned sub ? Worried the parts maybe replaced or it is not being properly service by the previous owner or worst still ,fake.
Recently , i was in Macau. I saw alot of pawn shop selling all sort of sub , not sure if they're full set or original but it is really confusing.
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Is there any particular point that i will need to look out for when getting a pre-owned sub ? Worried the parts maybe replaced or it is not being properly service by the previous owner or worst still ,fake.
Recently , i was in Macau. I saw alot of pawn shop selling all sort of sub , not sure if they're full set or original but it is really confusing.
That's always a risk of buying pre-owned.
For peace of mind, get it verify at RSC before deal, if possible.
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There is advice on buying pre-owned in the forums. But to sum it up, buy the seller first.
Best to do a local deal where you can easily find the seller again if it you face a problem. Buying from overseas, it's best to buy from an AD. Too much going on in Macau or HK that you have to be a very seasoned buyer before trying your luck.
Rolex Submariners regularly show up in our For Sale section.
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Submariner. You will never regret, I bet you.
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Got a d series (2005-2006?) 2 lines submariner 14060m with paper from shop in hong kong earlier this month. Cost is more or less RM15k, they charge % if pay by credit card
an all purpose watch, comfortable to wear, very happy with it
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Save up, be patient, go for Sub Date :thumbsup:
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I prefer the date sub , its functional for me as i refer to the watch date all the time. Is there any particular reason alot of sifus here prefer the no date ?
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Submariner first
then PAM
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I prefer the date sub , its functional for me as i refer to the watch date all the time. Is there any particular reason alot of sifus here prefer the no date ?
Coz the dial is more proportionate / balanced.
And also it's more closer to the original sub.
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subs is prefer due to higher resale value over long term as compare to pam24.
just like comparing Merc and Volks - both are good german car but somehow Merc carried better resale price, i guest same goes for rolex.... in this case
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I prefer the date sub , its functional for me as i refer to the watch date all the time. Is there any particular reason alot of sifus here prefer the no date ?
Like Hanz said, the Submariner is more balanced and does not come with the cyclop which some people don't like.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg574/loochunboon/Rolex_13631.jpg)
But, if you are not obsessed with symmetry and do not have a problem with the cyclop, just go for the sub-date, especially the improved 116610LN. I own both (14060M and the 116610LN) and personally I prefer the 16610LN. No question about it.
PS: The cyclop is stuck to the crystal by a very good rolex glue. If the cyclop bothers you more than your Rolex losing its value or the cystal getting chipped, I believe you can try removing the cyclop by exposing the cyclop to the blue flame from a hand-torch for a couple of seconds. It will normally fall off or you can flick it away with a pen knife. Haven't tried it myself though. Try it at your own risk of course. ;D
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I prefer the date sub , its functional for me as i refer to the watch date all the time. Is there any particular reason alot of sifus here prefer the no date ?
Like Hanz said, the Submariner is more balanced and does not come with the cyclop which some people don't like.
But, if you are not obsessed with symmetry and do not have a problem with the cyclop, just go for the sub-date, especially the improved 116610LN. I own both (14060M and the 116610LN) and personally I prefer the 16610LN. No question about it.
PS: The cyclop is stuck to the crystal by a very good rolex glue. If the cyclop bothers you more than your Rolex losing its value or the cystal getting chipped, I believe you can try removing the cyclop by exposing the cyclop to the blue flame from a hand-torch for a couple of seconds. It will normally fall off or you can flick it away with a pen knife. Haven't tried it myself though. Try it at your own risk of course. ;D
The no date actually looks cleaner , but mayb i have been surveying only the date sub , the no date 4 me felt like missing some details somewhere somehow
Thank you all the gurus / sifu for the advice ,:)
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I will go for Sub with date. Indeed, sub with date price tends to be higher than those without date. :Cheers:
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If I remember correctly, the newer 6 digit reference Rolex will have the underside of the cyclops coated with anti reflective coating.
Removing the cyclops will mean that there will be a mark on the crystal... does not look very good.
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Sub w date, both brand recognition n resale. For preowned, get one w full set.
If you havent own a Rolex, this is it.
Sm
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Guys,
May i know for some of the 16610 sub , there are different series A,B,C etc , what does it mean?
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Guys,
May i know for some of the 16610 sub , there are different series A,B,C etc , what does it mean?
The serial number starting with the alphabet correspond to the year the case was stamped and made...
A serial is 1999, X serial is 1991, T serial is 1996, M serial is 2007 and so on.
You can do a google search for all the serial number and manufacturing year it correspond to.
Newer Rolexes after year 2011 goes by 8 digit random serial... which is a mixture of numbers and alphabets.
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Correction guys,
That's no 'no date' sub.
That's only sub (14060) and sub date (16610).
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We meant 14060m thx . tony.
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Guys,
May i know for some of the 16610 sub , there are different series A,B,C etc , what does it mean?
The serial number starting with the alphabet correspond to the year the case was stamped and made...
A serial is 1999, X serial is 1991, T serial is 1996, M serial is 2007 and so on.
You can do a google search for all the serial number and manufacturing year it correspond to.
Newer Rolexes after year 2011 goes by 8 digit random serial... which is a mixture of numbers and alphabets.
hogwash...
the serials only indicate very roughly when the case was stamped but not exactly when the watch was assembled or sold. i suppose for fast selling models like the submariner date, the numbers would be more accurate when trying to guess year of sale.
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Correction guys,
That's no 'no date' sub.
That's only sub (14060) and sub date (16610).
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
and now they are 114060 and 116610 for ceramic bezels.
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Guys,
May i know for some of the 16610 sub , there are different series A,B,C etc , what does it mean?
The serial number starting with the alphabet correspond to the year the case was stamped and made...
A serial is 1999, X serial is 1991, T serial is 1996, M serial is 2007 and so on.
You can do a google search for all the serial number and manufacturing year it correspond to.
Newer Rolexes after year 2011 goes by 8 digit random serial... which is a mixture of numbers and alphabets.
hogwash...
the serials only indicate very roughly when the case was stamped but not exactly when the watch was assembled or sold. i suppose for fast selling models like the submariner date, the numbers would be more accurate when trying to guess year of sale.
That's what I said... it correspond to the year the case was stamped and made.
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thank you guys for all your input. i"ll start my search for 1... :thumbsup: