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Title: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: takashi78 on October 03, 2012, 07:28:27 AM: http://duboisfils.ch/en/crowd-funding/project-presentation

Looks to be something interesting.

This is the first time i see a watch company trying to revive a brand this way.

So what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: meoramri on October 03, 2012, 08:12:26 AM: Can't comment on the brand but the style of financing unique. Its a venture capital style but for the retail/mass market. There are a number of studies done to research the effectiveness of this model to capital formation. Generally, the results is similar to VC for the wholesale market = very risky with high failure rate. The likelihood of failure is compounded further by the lack of direct participation to the business operations (if there are only a handful of investors, everyone can be appointed to the Board and oversee the operations, but if the numbers are in the 10s and 100s, this option is not feasible).

Conclusion: a gamble.
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: takashi78 on October 03, 2012, 10:05:18 AM: From the website it looks like 83 people have already "joined" on board.
Will be interesting to follow if by SIHH/Basel they will exhibit there.
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: tonykpk on October 03, 2012, 01:46:52 PM: Thanks but not 4 me , always easier said than done. regards tony
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: KamLoong on October 03, 2012, 09:10:17 PM: Very optimistic projections. Investing in gold is better.
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: wslee on October 03, 2012, 11:33:33 PM: There is one successful crowd funding which i heard of for watch making
You can check out http://www.vicenterra.ch/

I had asked the owner,he said their investor wait for about 2-3 years before they receive the actual watch.

Good concept tho
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: tsteinemann on October 04, 2012, 04:25:51 PM: DuBois et fils is the "oldest Swiss watch factory" and no needs to play games with such a high value brand.
The project is under Swiss law and controlled by lawyer. The products are developed and a serious business can begin soon.
DuBois et fils handle everything very transparent and answers all questions - try it.
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: wslee on October 04, 2012, 04:28:34 PM: Hi Guys,we do actually have the owner on board with us as well in MWF for this thread. Im sure he will be glad to answer all of our question.
Hope it clears all of our doubtful.
:Cheers:
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: wslee on October 04, 2012, 04:48:15 PM: When we only get to see the full scale designs and details of the watch?
It seems like little info has been available in the website about the latest design
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: tsteinemann on October 04, 2012, 05:07:34 PM: next Monday, October 8th, we show first pictures of our concept ONE to our new shareholders, Tuesday we open the book for all on facebook and website
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: wslee on October 04, 2012, 05:38:23 PM: Quote from: tsteinemann on October 04, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
next Monday, October 8th, we show first pictures of our concept ONE to our new shareholders, Tuesday we open the book for all on facebook and website

:Cheers:
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: tsteinemann on October 04, 2012, 05:56:04 PM: yep, everybody is now waiting for pictures. It is a round Chrono. Case is in 5 different pieces and a really nice polishing..... :Jumping:
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: wslee on October 04, 2012, 06:15:37 PM: Cool :Dancing_banana:

So how many watches will be launching for this year?Is it only concept one?
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: tsteinemann on October 04, 2012, 06:22:54 PM: relaunch is planed for April 2013 and we start with 3 watches in concept ONE and 3 watches in concept TWO. Delivery for concept THREE is planed for Fall 2013. Be aware that we are doing only limited edition watches - 99 pcs each watch.
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: Everdying on October 04, 2012, 07:24:04 PM: hmm the site is dis-proportionate on firefox as the project presentation window is small...looks better on IE.

anyway, what kinda investment amount are we looking at here?
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: takashi78 on October 04, 2012, 07:30:08 PM: Quote from: Glampyre on October 04, 2012, 07:24:04 PM
anyway, what kinda investment amount are we looking at here?

All the info is already on the website. Even the investment amount.
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: takashi78 on October 04, 2012, 07:33:01 PM: Will the brand be at BASEL 2013?
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: tsteinemann on October 04, 2012, 08:10:44 PM: make no sense to spend so much money Basel Fair in this stage. More and more difficult for small brands to participate Basel or Geneva.
In future we have an office in Basel and for sure with a really nice showroom.
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: tsteinemann on October 09, 2012, 08:02:52 PM: now first pictures of the new DuBois et fils watch "concept ONE" are available on the website

http://duboisfils.ch/en/concept-one

would like to see your comments
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: dpkong on October 09, 2012, 09:20:51 PM: This sparked my interest. How about a running seconds hand in white and just the chrono functions in red?
Title: Re: Who wants to be part owner of a Swiss watch manufacture? Look inside
Post by: tsteinemann on October 10, 2012, 11:50:48 AM: we will offer several different colour executions