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Title: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: paneristi312n on August 26, 2012, 02:53:56 PM
My PAM 313 is roughly slower by 2 sec in a day. Is it possible to send the watch to Richemont office in KL to regulate the time without having to send it to Singapore. Because it would take sometime if the watch being sent to Singapore. The watch is still under warranty.

Anyone has experience this?

Please advise.
Thanks.


Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: TJWN on August 26, 2012, 03:13:39 PM
IMO this is very normal for a mechanical watch.....
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: rusminag on August 26, 2012, 03:19:57 PM
Just 2 sec per day?  that is perfect enough...
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: takashi78 on August 26, 2012, 04:17:23 PM
Buy a quartz if it irritates you that your mechanical watch is off by 2sec per day.
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: Dickson Lim on August 26, 2012, 05:03:09 PM
2 seconds is perfectly good. Even COSC specs is -4+6.
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: SeaDwellerR on August 26, 2012, 05:27:20 PM
Buy a quartz if it irritates you that your mechanical watch is off by 2sec per day.

+1  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: paneristi312n on August 26, 2012, 05:49:30 PM
Takashi78, only if Panerai crafted the quartz.. ;)

Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: ckcspice on August 26, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
+2

Buy a quartz if it irritates you that your mechanical watch is off by 2sec per day.

+1  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: tonykpk on August 26, 2012, 09:14:33 PM
Sleep over it , 2 sec is good enough..regards tony.. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: hanz079 on August 26, 2012, 09:36:58 PM
Does the watch lose 2 seconds everyday like clockwork?
Did you rest the watch in the same position every night?

If the answer is yes for both, then you can try to change the resting position to try and gain back the 2 seconds.

And if you're really particular about atomic accuracy, then I'm afraid mechanical watches are not for you.
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: paneristi312n on August 27, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
Talking about resting position, what kind of other resting positions that I can consider. Normally, I just put on the table. ???
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: ck77 on August 27, 2012, 08:29:40 PM
Talking about resting position, what kind of other resting positions that I can consider. Normally, I just put on the table. ???
Face up, face down, face right, face left ...
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: MerzT on August 28, 2012, 01:24:49 AM
Seriously... until this time i still DONT UNDERSTAND why people are so particular about timing to seconds if its not tourbillon ... I think its reasonable if talking about minutes per day

And seriously 2 seconds per day ?! .. no offense... Everyone has their point of view and time to timed the watch  :-*
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: kenixck on August 28, 2012, 07:54:25 AM

franken it with a quartz movement .. cool project watch.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: paneristi312n on August 29, 2012, 11:38:07 AM
So when is the right time to regulate the watch?
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: fuzionness on August 29, 2012, 01:58:30 PM
y even bother to regulate it since its just 2sec difference~? even its still under warranty it doesnt mean you need to regulate it..

sorry but i still need to ask....if so what happen after you regulate it after that , when reach back to ur hands and still have 2 sec difference or even mayb more then 2 sec, so going to sent back again??  ???  ???
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: hanz079 on August 29, 2012, 02:12:56 PM
So when is the right time to regulate the watch?
If it's deviation is more than 15 seconds a day, then i would say you need to regulate it...
After long use, lubricant will dry up, power reserve will drop, manual wind will feel coarse and deviation will be more severe... then it needs a full service.
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: mnazri.tan on August 29, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
2 sec? that is amazingly good la brother....the only better watch is those casio quartz...+- 10sec in a month.....
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: jacky8888 on September 02, 2012, 04:03:09 PM
So when is the right time to regulate the watch?

I would say more +-30 seconds.......
2 seconds is very accurate for Mechanical watches....
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: JOS2012 on September 02, 2012, 05:51:06 PM
If you are lucky mechanical watches can be as accurate as +1 sec/day.
Anything of up to +5 sec/day is still acceptable in my case.
Of coz I prefer the mechanical watch to run fast rather than slow as you can just stop the second hand when you want to re-calibrate the time.

Any greater deviation than +5 sec/day and that watch will be sent back to the SC to be re-calibrated and if it still fails, it will be sold.
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: G.MAC on September 02, 2012, 06:06:37 PM
2 seconds? I dont think it needs regulation. Even if you send it to the service centre, it is just going to come back with a clean bill of health with no possible work done on it at all. I have a PAM351 with the same movement as the PAM312. However it was heavily magnetized that it was +/- 5 minutes a day. If you are getting those figures, then i say you should regulate it.
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: besview on September 02, 2012, 09:43:01 PM
The verdict is out.Many would give up their thumb for a watch having those numbers.
If that bothers you,I agree that you should get a soulless quartz watch and you would sleep well at night.Or be like me,get a timegrapher whereby you can tell at a glance how many secs it varies/day.it can also tell how many secs a day it gains/loses in various positions

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/besview/Rolex/DSCF5368.jpg)
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: paneristi312n on September 03, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
Wow.. That's awesome. Btw, thanks to all for the feedback. Still my question not fully answered. Let say in the future, if i want to regulate the watch, can Richemont office in KL has the capability regulate the watch without having to send it to Singapore's office. Has anyone experience this?
Title: Re: Regulating PAM 312 movement
Post by: zameenzahari on September 03, 2012, 08:06:09 PM
Wow.. That's awesome. Btw, thanks to all for the feedback. Still my question not fully answered. Let say in the future, if i want to regulate the watch, can Richemont office in KL has the capability regulate the watch without having to send it to Singapore's office. Has anyone experience this?

Give them a call? They should be able to assist with your query. Btw, my view is prob not as usually in-house like the p.9000 would need y
To be serviced in larger SCs