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Title: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: pamhunger on August 17, 2012, 08:54:25 PM
Guys,

Any idea on what is the deepest watch dived at the moment?
What is the deepest human can dive, without submarine and the iron suit?

This Rolex Deepsea challenge can go to 12000 meters or 39370 feet
 
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd429/patek8888/IMG_1080.jpg)
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: tonykpk on August 17, 2012, 09:35:09 PM
Humans are capable of diving to a depth of about 700 m. The deepest  watch dive at Mariana trench by DSC.,to 11,000m plus..  correct me if I'm wrong..fr tony..
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: gloomis on August 18, 2012, 05:56:54 AM
human definately unable to do it without a machine help. I think china just break the deepest dive record with their latest submarine 'jiao long hao'

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/186904/20110726/china-submarine-deep-sea-dive-jiaolong.htm
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: Godzillaz on August 18, 2012, 08:45:06 AM
I don't get why ppl want to dive down beyond 120m, nothing to see cos all black due to no sun light.

Maybe some treasure hunter will do that.

Regards
Tyler
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: SeaDwellerR on August 18, 2012, 08:58:39 AM
I don't get why ppl want to dive down beyond 120m, nothing to see cos all black due to no sun light.

Maybe some treasure hunter will do that.

Regards
Tyler

Only divers can answer your question.
 :thumbsup:
But divers will ask all the watch lovers and collectors: " i don't get why watch collector want to own divers watch, they cant even dive; why collectors want to own like 5-10 watches, maybe its all becos of love and hobby!"
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: gloomis on August 18, 2012, 09:30:03 AM
I don't get why ppl want to dive down beyond 120m, nothing to see cos all black due to no sun light.

Maybe some treasure hunter will do that.

Regards
Tyler

well....i have no idea as well why alot ppl buying divers watch, 1 of the concern is how deep is the water resistant for the watch even they are wont be use for diving purpose. maybe just to fulfill their desire only
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: Godzillaz on August 18, 2012, 09:48:53 AM
You are making fun of me again, damn you!  :mooning:

I do dive with my dive watch. The depth is 1m ... ... >:(

I don't get why ppl want to dive down beyond 120m, nothing to see cos all black due to no sun light.

Maybe some treasure hunter will do that.

Regards
Tyler

well....i have no idea as well why alot ppl buying divers watch, 1 of the concern is how deep is the water resistant for the watch even they are wont be use for diving purpose. maybe just to fulfill their desire only
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: dennis.T on August 18, 2012, 05:41:37 PM
You are making fun of me again, damn you!  :mooning:

I do dive with my dive watch. The depth is 1m ... ... >:(

I don't get why ppl want to dive down beyond 120m, nothing to see cos all black due to no sun light.

Maybe some treasure hunter will do that.

Regards
Tyler

well....i have no idea as well why alot ppl buying divers watch, 1 of the concern is how deep is the water resistant for the watch even they are wont be use for diving purpose. maybe just to fulfill their desire only
:Laughing_on_floor: even 1m also dive what.. Just the different in number... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: tonykpk on August 19, 2012, 02:04:25 PM
For me the deepest i go is my bathtub.   :Laughing_on_floor:  tony.
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: sshark on August 20, 2012, 08:36:41 PM
I use my real diver's watch in the office and I dived with my seiko digital 100m. Aiiii... Need to reset my priority.
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: JPamAP on August 20, 2012, 09:50:31 PM
Nice new deep sea.....so far no one ever dive till 39370 feet, i believe its only marketting gimmick for DS.  So far the record was recently from china..
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: tonykpk on August 21, 2012, 07:44:14 AM
Hi jp.The Deep sea Challenge ( watch) was actually strap on the arm of the sub that dived to a proven n documented dive of 36,000 ft (10,xxx M ) regards  tony.
Nice new deep sea.....so far no one ever dive till 39370 feet, i believe its only marketting gimmick for DS.  So far the record was recently from china..

Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: tonykpk on August 21, 2012, 07:59:28 AM
hi Jp This is the 2nd  record within 50 yrs of the deepest dive ( watch n sub) in the world at Mariana trench ( the deepest ocean floor in the world. ) You can search for it at Rolex deep sea challenge. No other submarine or watch could go this deep yet. regards tony.
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: JPamAP on August 21, 2012, 08:12:53 AM
Hi Tony, agree and believe only Rolex is capable for that depth,  that's why no one (human being) but only machine.  Whatever documented proven, it's is still unlogic for human...then it's only gimmick....I strongly believe is nice watch, I owed DS too....but so far I did not see divers wearing Rolex DS during their diving........me too.  Regards JP
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: sshark on August 21, 2012, 09:50:40 AM
I don't think this statement is not entirely true "... and believe only Rolex is capable for that depth, ..." Sinn and perhaps B&R (can't recall other watch companies) has produced oil filled watches to allow the watch to be used in any depth. I reckon that includes 12000m and beyond. Only air is compressible and hence it will collapse under pressure. The watch is filled with oil hence it is able to withstand extreme water pressure. I suppose it will crack when even more pressure is applied but I don't what the number would be.

Hi Tony, agree and believe only Rolex is capable for that depth,  that's why no one (human being) but only machine.  Whatever documented proven, it's is still unlogic for human...then it's only gimmick....I strongly believe is nice watch, I owed DS too....but so far I did not see divers wearing Rolex DS during their diving........me too.  Regards JP
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: TheHobbit on August 21, 2012, 10:23:50 AM
The B&R Hydromax is rated to 11,100 m.
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: tonykpk on August 21, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
 To date only the Rolex DS special n deepsea challenge have actually been proven to have dived into the deepest ocean floor (10,900 m ) on this earth at Mariana trench.The deepsea challenge is also rated 12,000m plus 25% that is about 15,000m. The SD rated !,200 m + 25% that is !,500m , the DSSD rated 3,900m + 25% =4,800m. It was minus 25% 4 safety reasons. Correct me if I'm wrong, regards tony.
I don't think this statement is not entirely true "... and believe only Rolex is capable for that depth, ..." Sinn and perhaps B&R (can't recall other watch companies) has produced oil filled watches to allow the watch to be used in any depth. I reckon that includes 12000m and beyond. Only air is compressible and hence it will collapse under pressure. The watch is filled with oil hence it is able to withstand extreme water pressure. I suppose it will crack when even more pressure is applied but I don't what the number would be.

Hi Tony, agree and believe only Rolex is capable for that depth,  that's why no one (human being) but only machine.  Whatever documented proven, it's is still unlogic for human...then it's only gimmick....I strongly believe is nice watch, I owed DS too....but so far I did not see divers wearing Rolex DS during their diving........me too.  Regards JP
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: terrenceterrence on August 22, 2012, 03:20:08 PM
Of course it's a marketing gimmick and a big middle finger F**k You to all Sports watch manufacturers out there.

I thought James Cameron was inside the sub with the watch strapped outside the sub?

This is to prove that Rolex does not need to reinvent anything new and just cobble up a new watch withe existing parts from the factory and still beat all the competitor's claimed hardcore sports watches. Other than the thick crystal and case which is specially milled, the oversized triple lock crown, escape valve and glide lock bracelet are all production pieces. What you have on your wrist can still bugger almost all other brands.

Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: JPamAP on August 22, 2012, 07:47:09 PM
Calm down terrence, it's just a topic to discuss with...no need middle finger out, no need sodomy others brand...cheers
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: Watchnewby on August 23, 2012, 09:11:08 AM

I do dive with my dive watch. The depth is 1m ... ... >:(


Well, if you wear your dive watch and goes swimming, it still count, right?  ;D
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: Watchnewby on August 23, 2012, 09:19:03 AM
Of course it's a marketing gimmick and a big middle finger F**k You to all Sports watch manufacturers out there.

I thought James Cameron was inside the sub with the watch strapped outside the sub?

This is to prove that Rolex does not need to reinvent anything new and just cobble up a new watch withe existing parts from the factory and still beat all the competitor's claimed hardcore sports watches. Other than the thick crystal and case which is specially milled, the oversized triple lock crown, escape valve and glide lock bracelet are all production pieces. What you have on your wrist can still bugger almost all other brands.

Cool down bro. terence.
Yes, Rolex made does not need to reinvent anything new and use the existing parts from the factory with a few reinforcement like thicker glass etc and can still claim to be one of the better  (if not the best) manufacturer of deep sea diver watch.

Is it just me or other have this thing also - when diving, we keep our sub-mariner or DS but wear an orange monster instead.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: swleong on August 23, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
just some quick maths, correct me if I'm wrong, 12000m is like 1200bar of water (assume fresh water), that's like 1224kg/sq cm, any human body will be thinner than Piaget Altiplano at that pressure.....

body shape of an oarfish anyone?
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: tonykpk on August 23, 2012, 01:30:39 PM
No human has yet to dived past 701m ( by comex) . Nobody said human  have dived to 12,000m. Only 2 machines (manned) and 2 watches have done that ( 10,900m)... regards fr tony.
just some quick maths, correct me if I'm wrong, 12000m is like 1200bar of water (assume fresh water), that's like 1224kg/sq cm, any human body will be thinner than Piaget Altiplano at that pressure.....

body shape of an oarfish anyone?
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: Scuderianer0 on August 23, 2012, 02:55:16 PM
i wear my diver while watching discovery channel.
 :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: tonykpk on August 23, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
Good 2 see you having a good laugh. be happy always...fr tony..
i wear my diver while watching discovery channel.
 :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: tonykpk on August 30, 2012, 07:36:09 AM
Just for sharing, the hydrogen in the breathing tank turn toxic after 700m depth .regards tony.
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: yinhonwong on August 30, 2012, 07:45:12 AM
Thnaks, Tony :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: effendy131 on October 26, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
I don't get why ppl want to dive down beyond 120m, nothing to see cos all black due to no sun light.

Maybe some treasure hunter will do that.

Normally commercial diving activities in deepwater related to oil & gas industry, i.e. to make oil & gas pipeline connection (bolting) on seabed. Otherwork is subsea intervention, i.e. to open & close the valve.
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: Timeless on October 26, 2015, 09:01:23 PM
Commercial diving required comprehensive tools and machines to attain such deep level
Title: Re: Can human dive till 12000 meters or 39370 feet?
Post by: Narco on October 27, 2015, 12:39:32 PM
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1. Talking about deepest dive, it depends on what type of dives. Dives can be segmented into several different type
 - Scuba Dive
 - Freedive
 - Technical Dive
 - Commercial Dive.

Each type varies on the support equipment needed, depth capability, time period to stay at certain/particular depth. The deepest of technical diving is around 332m while free diving goes to about 220m. It is known that people do dive for a specific purpose up to slightly more than 600m with special suits etc.

2. There are cases where Commercial divers will also have to stay at certain depth for days/weeks to complete their task at extreme depth. I know some commercial divers who do actually wear dive watches during their duties. They will have to stay inside a hyperbaric chamber that normalise the atmospheric level, so wearing such watch at that depth inside a chamber is not an issue. The issue starts with accuracy of time when they go out the chamber and this is probably why COMEX issue the Rolex during those days. To make it redundant and conservatives, they utilise special kind of dive computer and other support equipment to help them in this. When COMEX is active, dive computer are super expensive and non-practical at that time.

3. I can basically understand why even non-divers love Dive Watch. It is not about what it do, it is about how it was done, apart from the historical facts, designs and mass-culture popularity. Appreciating the technicality is what it is behind us loving the watch we have especially automatic. It would be cool to understand the function of the rotating bezel for dive purposes and how those can be manipulated. The picture above was taken during one of my dives when my dive computer had its strap broken. I went conservative and did all the manual calculation. It feels cool being conversative despite the hassle of calculating.

Hope this gives a clear input. If there are saturation diver out there that find my info incorrect, kindly post up the rectification.