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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: phat3 on December 11, 2009, 01:53:33 PM
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Beginner here,
Plan to get my very first panerai but got caught between this three models pam 111 ,pam 88 & pam 90. Wondering whats the retail price for them in MYR and which AD located in KL u guys recommend that gives best %.
THX in advanced.
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Hi !
Beginner
This is up to which PAM that would you like to have.
For a beginner , the basic piece is PAM 111.
There is a few point which you can consider at which is
if you are a regular traveller , you may consider on PAM 88 as this is GMT model.
If you have more then a watch, then you can consider on PAM 90 as this is a PR piece.
For my personal opinion after the survey and research that I have done based on your question, I suggest
you can get a PAM 5 or PAM 0 as this is not so ' basic' look and this piece comes with the logo and
PAM 111 is too basic and too common which too many ppl have it.
Hopes this all can helps you and need comrades over here to give more opinion.
Lola
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Oops Lola.... you are goin to offend many brothers here who own Pam 111 :Startled:
Every Pam is unique in its own way. Just ask the sifu here. Thats my personal opinion :thumbsup:
Alice.
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aside from design I would get a Pam with an inhouse movement. PAM 200 or 201 is sweet! but so expensive!
an entry level such as 305, 320, 329 would do just fine.
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2009_03/WT_2009_03_101.pdf
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you may want to consider 312...new movement and the price is pretty near to the 3 pammies you listed in your thread.
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the "cheapest" inhouse maybe P.9000 is used in 312, 328, 305
next inline P.9001 used in 320, 329
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Base is, imo, the best choice since it is the closest to the original PAM...manual winding, sandwich dial, non-hacking. Most ristis will eventually get a Base at one point or another. You may also want to scour the pre-own market for a 1 or 2. Anyway, you can't go wrong with either one. 88 is a classic (the PAM that got me started).
The three models you listed are hard to come by. I have not heard of many shipments for these three models this year as Panerai seemed to be pushing the new manifactura models more to the ADs this year. Good luck with your search.
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a nice read on Pan goal to become a manufacture.
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2009_03/WT_2009_03_096.pdf
Pam 112 review
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2004_03/WT_2004_03_110.pdf
Pam 111 maybe closest to the original Pam
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2008_02/WT_2008_02_208.pdf
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Have you ever consider radiomir series? Models like 183, 210 look great and stunning!
Btw, i have a friend would like to sell off the 88. will pm you the details.
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Pam 112 review
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2004_03/WT_2004_03_110.pdf
Pam 111 maybe closest to the original Pam
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2008_02/WT_2008_02_208.pdf
The Base and Marina are always the best! Great article and thanks for sharing.
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Have you ever consider radiomir series? Models like 183, 210 look great and stunning!
Btw, i have a friend would like to sell off the 88. will pm you the details.
Totally agree with fred do consider Radiomir my fren because it is the "ori" design way before the Luminor that we all know to day and IMHO the best PAM must have these criterias:
1) Manual wound movement
2) Sandwich dial with 3,6,9,12 highlighted
Because these criteria is as close to the original design as possible which from start Panerai dont have its own movement it is all the while using third party movement. On top of that the whole Panerai frenzy is about its history with the Italian Royal Navy and its close ties with the world's first underwater special forces so its all about getting the closes to what its original design as possible.
Select any one form the Historic collection will be a good start I would say 210 is good to start from
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May i know the exact retail price for pam 88 and pam 90 cause i hav a rough figure these watches ranges from 20k - 25k retail. How about pam 111?
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Oops Lola.... you are goin to offend many brothers here who own Pam 111 :Startled:
Every Pam is unique in its own way. Just ask the sifu here. Thats my personal opinion :thumbsup:
Alice.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYY to all the brothers here .
Lola
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Oops Lola.... you are goin to offend many brothers here who own Pam 111 :Startled:
Every Pam is unique in its own way. Just ask the sifu here. Thats my personal opinion :thumbsup:
Alice.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYY to all the brothers here .
Lola
No worries Lola. No offense was taken, so no apology required.
:Cheers:
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looking for my 1st PAM. anybody have 1 to let go???
:HammerHead:
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Hi ex001,
You may get better response if you post this under the Classified section.
I recently saw two brand new PAMs available. A PAM 104, with discount and PAM 005 at a premium. PM me for the shop name and location.
:Cheers:
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Newbie here, just realize that got money also difficult to get a wanted panerai watch :-[
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hi , sometime you just need the luck to get the pam that you dream of..... my friend just offer me PAM 249 & 232..... only is the price isssue...... 005 maybe if you are lucky you still can get at retail.....the rest model.. PAM 111, 104. 90 88. should be retail at 10 % discount from the watch shop.
cheers..
bobby.
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now days still got discount for pam 111?? u sure?
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now days still got discount for pam 111?? u sure?
S.U.R.E. ;D Just help 3 friends get their PAM111 for the past 3 months... not sure why now they started to give discount...last time not a cent!!
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hi all,
i think TIME is bad for now..... so anybrand you can ask for discount........even the limited edition.... i got a good deal for this pieces for my friend....
You just need to start asking for the discount.......
cheers.
bobby
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hi !
Which PAM and what model you looking for?
Lola
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2010 1st watch... 112... 312 next target ;D
(http:///imagehost/pam1.jpg)
(http:///imagehost/pam2.jpg)
(http:///imagehost/pam3.jpg)
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Nice new year catch ex001 :thumbsup:
Sweet sandwich ;D Wear it in good health :Cheers:
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Thanks CK77... can afford base model only lah
:Cheers:
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Very very nice :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I am eying for pam 000 but not ready to buy it for now :'(
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Very very nice :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I am eying for pam 000 but not ready to buy it for now :'(
Tq it is nice... just buy it laa hehe
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any 1 may enlighten me on the so called "riginal sandwich dial for Italy Marine"? some say the pam 000 and 005 are more close to "original" sandwich design?? the version i heard is the watch maker insert the luminous to the sandwich dial to fill up the gap and some even protruded out from the gap and forms a painted dial look and they call it "original" sandwich dial... ???
i intend to get a Pam 111e from a collector but i look at the dial it seen like painted dial not sandwich dial...i m confursing so i hope the sifu here may clear my doubt
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ex001: congratulations! charming watch :Cheers:
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Thanks for the help Fred :Cheers:
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any 1 may enlighten me on the so called "riginal sandwich dial for Italy Marine"? some say the pam 000 and 005 are more close to "original" sandwich design?? the version i heard is the watch maker insert the luminous to the sandwich dial to fill up the gap and some even protruded out from the gap and forms a painted dial look and they call it "original" sandwich dial... ???
i intend to get a Pam 111e from a collector but i look at the dial it seen like painted dial not sandwich dial...i m confursing so i hope the sifu here may clear my doubt
sandwich dial is like the old vintage designed...
but pre vendom till older version of pam111 n 112 also painted dial....
then the rxw made a more close to vintage pam/rolex 6152 with sandwich dial in their 47mm mm20...
pam realize ppl like the sandwich dial very much... so quickly make the 47mm 1950 with sandwich dial....
the historical line also change to sandwich dial
same happened to the pam249... california dial, it was made after the rwc1938 replicate the old pam/rolex...the of course u hv alot of the california dial cushion case been made later before pam249...
even the egiziano... so many ppl made that before pam as well....
my question is u buy because is close to original?
the logo actually was a modern creation, and not exist in the original vintage pam/rolex...
my conclusion is, the sandwich dial pam111 is closer to vintage design... but again vintage pam is 47mm, gold or blued hands not black n white second, none see through case back...
filled in dial (pam000 n 005 is not printed actually, the automatic contemporary pam is printed) is closer to pre vendome small production pam...
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If i'm not mistaken, the logo (5218/201A) was the first Panerai sold for public (panerai watches was mainly produced for Italy navy before that) in 1993 before Vendome bought over) and the PAM0 is the reissue of this model.. of course, price is much different...
Same as PAM5, it is also a reissue of one of the pre-vendome model... that's why these 2 models are rare and popular (but cheapest in the current production) because of its history....
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Ya, i want something close to original....but i like the decorated movement of pam 111 as well....however i dnt thk i ll take both 111 n 005...so any model which consist of filled dial and see thru case back?? :HammerHead:
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Ya, i want something close to original....but i like the decorated movement of pam 111 as well....however i dnt thk i ll take both 111 n 005...so any model which consist of filled dial and see thru case back?? :HammerHead:
older version of 111....
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Ya, i want something close to original....but i like the decorated movement of pam 111 as well....however i dnt thk i ll take both 111 n 005...so any model which consist of filled dial and see thru case back?? :HammerHead:
older version of 111....
PAM111 before H series,H series was the first to switch to sandwich dial and without decorated movement.
Cheers,
ck
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Ya, i want something close to original....but i like the decorated movement of pam 111 as well....however i dnt thk i ll take both 111 n 005...so any model which consist of filled dial and see thru case back?? :HammerHead:
older version of 111....
PAM111 before H series,H series was the first to switch to sandwich dial and without decorated movement.
Cheers,
ck
Yeap, exactly, CK has a nice G series to show ;)
BTW, i don't there is any production model with filled-dial + see thru case back... am i right? Maybe the coming new models might have it ;)
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Anyone know any AD that has PAM312 in stock?
friend looking for 1.
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S'pore AD (sixxere) are selling at sgd 9850 w/o discount, I thk they have plenty of 312 bcos I been told tat they have no ex stock and ask me leave down my contact and they ll call me once e new stock arrived however I m not their regular but they call 2 days after n say they have new stock now, hehe
FYI - grey dealer here selling at sgd 9k , hope e info helps
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wow thats nearly 24K MYR.
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Ex001, tat e reason why i can afford MM only... :thumbsup:
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Saw a few fake Pams complete with box and paper plus paper bag. :o
The wooden box and papers look exactly like original.
scary & crazy la. :Mad: :thumbsdown:
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My Sub.... ;D
(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy306/bergkn/IMG00148-20100116-1457.jpg)
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SIHH 2010 Panerai- Official Pic.Preview - borrow the pic from the courtesy of johnfish
i like the 1st and 2nd .... and 3rd pc i not dare to comments..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/jomp/Pam335Luminor1950Ceramica.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/jomp/Pam339RadiomirComposite.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/jomp/Pam300MareNostrum.jpg)
mods pls delete this if inappropiate...
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2010 1st watch... 112... 312 next target ;D
(http://pixesm.com/imagehost/pam1.jpg)
(http://pixesm.com/imagehost/pam2.jpg)
(http://pixesm.com/imagehost/pam3.jpg)
Hi ! Ex 001
I will look around then i will let you know ya .
U can PM me to ' chase' me or remind me then.
rgds
Lola
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just to share the panerai tourbillon video... :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-hrYLIjAgo&NR=1
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i am curious if the 40mm model are having ready stock with good dicount or hot seller as the 44 mm model ??? ???
i ask this as some of you know that i have a very small wrist (more like ladies wrist...) :'(
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Panerai and discount dont go together ;D
If anyone, Scott and Danny should be the ones who knows where to get the best price. :thumbsup:
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i am curious abt the avalbility of the 40 mm compared to 44 mm lor ;D
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Anyone here has any idea on the pricing of Destro? ( the left handed PAM) ? i am thinking about getting one in Mid East here but not sure about how much i should pay for it.. :) n yes, i wear my watches on me right hand.
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i am curious if the 40mm model are having ready stock with good dicount or hot seller as the 44 mm model ??? ???
i ask this as some of you know that i have a very small wrist (more like ladies wrist...) :'(
dnt worry, just go for 44mm..my wrist also tiny wrist rite? i though u have try on my hommage during the GTG...does it sing to u?? :Confused:
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i am curious if the 40mm model are having ready stock with good dicount or hot seller as the 44 mm model ??? ???
i ask this as some of you know that i have a very small wrist (more like ladies wrist...) :'(
dnt worry, just go for 44mm..my wrist also tiny wrist rite? i though u have try on my hommage during the GTG...does it sing to u?? :Confused:
i did try ah.. Actually apart from the need for extra hole its still look nice (alittle big tho)... ;D
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i am curious if the 40mm model are having ready stock with good dicount or hot seller as the 44 mm model ??? ???
i ask this as some of you know that i have a very small wrist (more like ladies wrist...) :'(
dnt worry, just go for 44mm..my wrist also tiny wrist rite? i though u have try on my hommage during the GTG...does it sing to u?? :Confused:
i did try ah.. Actually apart from the need for extra hole its still look nice (alittle big tho)... ;D
The OEM (original) panerai strap come with 3 sizes (or more, cant remember), short, standard (which come with your watch), long. You can ask for the short strap when you buy and swap with the standard if i'm not mistaken...