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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: sm on June 25, 2012, 11:31:59 AM
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Hi
The AP 15400 41mm will replace the 15300 39mm. Today all the 3 models 15400, 15300 & 15202 in 3 colours white, blue & black are available at starhill boutique. A very rare occasion.
I am thinking of getting the 15300 39mm. Though it is 39mm, it wears big and is popular with Asian wrist. The 41mm is definitely over sized w most Asian wrists but it is a trend nowadays. Both sing to me. The price diff is approx RM5K, 15400 being higher.
I am told that the 39mm will be discontinued by this year and is out of stock among AD's. I appreciate comments and opinion from all members and Seniors whether I should go for the 39mm or 41mm, if I were to pull the trigger. BTw, I have booked one model.
Thank you
sm
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My vote goes to the 39mm...
It's being discontinued this year? I thought it was discontinued the same time as the 15400 was announced?
If available, I would go for the 15300 1st and if the need arises, still can get the 15400 later... :Cheers:
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Actually it is no longer in production, I am told. The stock that is available are the balance; that is the reason the 39mm is not found at the AD's shops.
Thanks Terrence.
Sm
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go for 15300.
I love the AP logo on the 12 o'clock position as oppose to below the 12 marker.
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Neither.
I would take the best of both world. ;D
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15202
New model but 39mm :thumbsup:
Regard
Tyler
Hi
The AP 15400 41mm will replace the 15300 39mm. Today all the 3 models 15400, 15300 & 15202 in 3 colours white, blue & black are available at starhill boutique. A very rare occasion.
I am thinking of getting the 15300 39mm. Though it is 39mm, it wears big and is popular with Asian wrist. The 41mm is definitely over sized w most Asian wrists but it is a trend nowadays. Both sing to me. The price diff is approx RM5K, 15400 being higher.
I am told that the 39mm will be discontinued by this year and is out of stock among AD's. I appreciate comments and opinion from all members and Seniors whether I should go for the 39mm or 41mm, if I were to pull the trigger. BTw, I have booked one model.
Thank you
sm
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Was thinking of getting a blue dial 15300, but changed my mind when got an offer for a BNIB IWC Ingy which suit well on my wrist an on my wallet.
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List price for that Jumbo can buy a brand new Vios.
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But vios doesn't have a gold rotor :Laughing_on_floor:
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I thought someone wrote 'the diff bet an adult n a child is the price of the toy', haha
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I ll go for 15300... The 39mm case size is just nice for Asian.. If u look at 15400 now might as well go for diver..same mvnt with bigger case and better WR
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Both are pretty similar i will say, same AP 3120 caliber which a lot of people described it as one of the best in house movement in the world which i totally agree.
Well, i think it boils down to your wrist size. If yours is above 6.5" and if you are so used to Panerai, then go for 15400 instead of 15300. if u think panerai is too big for u and u can barely wear says submariner cos your wrist is around 6" then 15300 will probably fit you more.
I will personally go for 15400 because i dont generally like discontinued model save and except very collectible and or special edition model. 15300 is not collectible so I will go for newer version. Also, i think 15300's 39" is not "man enough". U know what i mean if you comparing RO and ROO.
15202 cost around 20% more than 15400. Moreover, I think the production is much lesser and hard to come by. 15202 is not my cup of tea cos it doesnt have a second hand which i like. Also, its carrying AP2121 cabliber which was licensed by JLC (historically it was partly owned by AP). I wont pay premium for non in house caliber since AP has produced a better inhouse caliber with 60 hours power reserve now.
Well, going for APROO diver is different ball game altogether i will say cos diver is ROO and not RO. This is akin CLK and C class which is in different water. But having said that, after bought the diver, now I am seriously considering 15400 which is like a 4 door sedan car which is very good for daily use, not to mention transparent backcase where one will get to admire the beautiful movement.
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Both are pretty similar i will say, same AP 3120 caliber which a lot of people described it as one of the best in house movement in the world which i totally agree.
Well, i think it boils down to your wrist size. If yours is above 6.5" and if you are so used to Panerai, then go for 15400 instead of 15300. if u think panerai is too big for u and u can barely wear says submariner cos your wrist is around 6" then 15300 will probably fit you more.
I will personally go for 15400 because i dont generally like discontinued model save and except very collectible and or special edition model. 15300 is not collectible so I will go for newer version. Also, i think 15300's 39" is not "man enough". U know what i mean if you comparing RO and ROO.
15202 cost around 20% more than 15400. Moreover, I think the production is much lesser and hard to come by. 15202 is not my cup of tea cos it doesnt have a second hand which i like. Also, its carrying AP2121 cabliber which was licensed by JLC (historically it was partly owned by AP). I wont pay premium for non in house caliber since AP has produced a better inhouse caliber with 60 hours power reserve now.
Well, going for APROO diver is different ball game altogether i will say cos diver is ROO and not RO. This is akin CLK and C class which is in different water. But having said that, after bought the diver, now I am seriously considering 15400 which is like a 4 door sedan car which is very good for daily use, not to mention transparent backcase where one will get to admire the beautiful movement.
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If u can carry the bigger one, y not?
N like it or not, the trend is going bigger...
All the tradisional big brands like iwc, rolex, omega, vc... Is going bigger!
Even Lange n GO going for XL
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i agree w the current trend of over sized particularly women. May I ask
1.'is 39mm AP15300 not the right size in today's fashion?'
2. will 41mm looks too big for royal oak? I mean Pam epitomizes ruggedness and 'man'. afterall it was mean for the navy whereas RO is much refined (pun)
3. i thought that at the right size, royal oak can be both a dress and sports watch too.
naturally we always love something new, in this case its 15400. Its a case of having two 'lovers', both equally desirable!
all your opinions are much appreciated.
Thanks
sm
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sm,
I would tell you that it all depends on how each watch looks on your wrist and your own preference..
The bezel width can give a different look given the same overall diameter. The watch should look proportionate on your wrist and that's where your individual preference comes in...what looks proportionate to you may not to another.
The AP RO is one of those watches still on my small wishlist although I have to stop buying for 2012...
Can you pm me what is the current lowest net discounted price for the 15400....are you buying from the Starhill AP boutique or from an AD? Good luck and do post up the pic once u pull the trigger..
i agree w the current trend of over sized particularly women. May I ask
1.'is 39mm AP15300 not the right size in today's fashion?'
2. will 41mm looks too big for royal oak? I mean Pam epitomizes ruggedness and 'man'. afterall it was mean for the navy whereas RO is much refined (pun)
3. i thought that at the right size, royal oak can be both a dress and sports watch too.
naturally we always love something new, in this case its 15400. Its a case of having two 'lovers', both equally desirable!
all your opinions are much appreciated.
Thanks
sm
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Guess which one depreciate faster ;)
Regard
Tyler
List price for that Jumbo can buy a brand new Vios.
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Bros,
1. starhill boutique - the ADs no stock for 15300. I have tried both and 39mm gives uncle(thats me) a more polished look whereas the 41mm lug sticks out of my 6.6" wrists. I wear the gmt ceramic and pam 44mm comfortably. However both sing to me, as explained 39 gives a more refined look, classic and subdue whereas the 41 is contemporary, ie loud and liken to a 'having arrived' look. The 15400 LP is in the mid 50's and discounts varies cos it will be available in the ADs soon.
2. Tyler- I think both will fall off its prices once it is out of the shop. Over the past 2 years dabbling in watches, I think only Rolex will have a lesser haircut cos of their yearly price increase mechanism and PP cos it is rare in the pre-owned market. To me, it is never an investment but an expensive indulgence. I kiv the 15202
It is a joy ride for me to be part of the mwf community and your suggestions do help me in my decision making. Again, many thanks.
sm
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I like the 15300.
Nicely proportioned. Fits well. The 41mm just released and you have many many years to decide to buy one later if you choose to.
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my vote for the 15300
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Unless you fancy and want to be the first to own this otherwise u may want to wait for AD and comparing the price around. Problem with AP is one is able to get a pretty steep haircut somewhere, so you may suffer a huge depreciation if your discount is not right.
I understand walk in at Spore boutique can giveoff plus tax refund now. HK boutique is off.
I will not pull the trigger if i dont get off the list price. But thats just me. If you dont want to wait and prefer to be the first to own it then do go ahead by all means. Welcome to AP club.
[Discount % discussion not allowed - Forum Mod]
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Btw, sm for your reference, i just notice that someone is selling 15400 at usd11900 (after worn several times he said) at another forum now. Guess that give you a rough idea how much discount one can get really get.
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You're welcome, sm. :D
BTW I went to the AP boutique this afternoon to try on both the 15202 and the 15400 just to get feel about them.
I find the dial of the 15400 is a bit out of balance due to its size. I really like the 15202. The thinness gives the watch a bigger presence while the small tapestry makes the watch more elegant than the previous 15300. However what I love most is the discreet date window. Nicely hidden away by using the same color as the dial.
I like it a lot. :D
The movement finish is superb compare to the 15400 (I haven't examine a 15300). It is a trusted movement share by the holy trinity(AP, PP, VC). From my understanding JLC didn't own this movement it was fund by the 3 brands at the time. JLC only manufacture the ebauche for the 3 brands. Then each of them take time to finish and improvement the movement as they see fit.
The boutique only receive two 15202 so far and it's all sold. I can guess the reason why. There are plenty 15400 available.
While at it I try on the ROO Forged Carbon Diver and the Bumble Bee. I have high hope for the Diver but was disappointed by its looks. Maybe deep down I am crying for the Bumble Bee. If only my wrist is bigger ... sigh.
The 15202 is selling at just slightly higher in the mid 60k. Pricey but not totally unjustifiable. (Hey if I'm looking for bang of the buck AP is not a brand that I will from)
I'm done with watch purchase for 2012. Maybe this classic will find its way back in 2013. Who knows ;)
Thanks for reading.
Regards
Tyler
Bros,
1. starhill boutique - the ADs no stock for 15300. I have tried both and 39mm gives uncle(thats me) a more polished look whereas the 41mm lug sticks out of my 6.6" wrists. I wear the gmt ceramic and pam 44mm comfortably. However both sing to me, as explained 39 gives a more refined look, classic and subdue whereas the 41 is contemporary, ie loud and liken to a 'having arrived' look. The 15400 LP is in the mid 50's and discounts varies cos it will be available in the ADs soon.
2. Tyler- I think both will fall off its prices once it is out of the shop. Over the past 2 years dabbling in watches, I think only Rolex will have a lesser haircut cos of their yearly price increase mechanism and PP cos it is rare in the pre-owned market. To me, it is never an investment but an expensive indulgence. I kiv the 15202
It is a joy ride for me to be part of the mwf community and your suggestions do help me in my decision making. Again, many thanks.
sm
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Their bracelet gap edges pinching on my wrist when I tried them on. 15400 sits better on my wrist. But same movement with 15300, hard to justify the price difference.. Maybe got lucky in preowned market later...
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hi,
pre-owned : some weeks back I did pm some of our merchants asking for RO but unsuccessful. If you do have any avail, please pm me, thanks. The AP Manager is willing to hold it until end of the week; it doesn't mean that it will be sold but it will be on a first come basis. I agree that all new watches depreciate over time. Sometimes rule by heart is more fun than by head. haha
15202 : I agree w Tyler that it is a beautiful timepiece. Actually what arouse my interest in the royal oak are those blogs comparing PP nautilus and AP royal oak. That's what make a brand, I think.
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hi,
pre-owned : some weeks back I did pm some of our merchants asking for RO but unsuccessful. If you do have any avail, please pm me, thanks. The AP Manager is willing to hold it until end of the week; it doesn't mean that it will be sold but it will be on a first come basis. I agree that all new watches depreciate over time. Sometimes rule by heart is more fun than by head. haha
15202 : I agree w Tyler that it is a beautiful timepiece. Actually what arouse my interest in the royal oak are those blogs comparing PP nautilus and AP royal oak. That's what make a brand, I think.
hi sm,
i went to tried it last two weeks ago also. i'm in love with the 15400 pink gold. i was thinking to get myself the daytona .... but now im stucked in the middle. dont know which one to go for my coming birthday.
i forgot to ask. can AP rubber strap work on 15400? the one i tried come with leather strap. anyone knows?
it seem like Singapore selling alot cheaper from
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Good luck trying the used or merchant for reasonable price.
I have been trying for 2yrs and still nothing.
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bros,
I have been stalking the 15300 for some months and everytime it came out in pre-owned spore, it be gone real fast; Takashi is correct! I dont know where else to get apart from msia, spore and hk, being unfamiliar w other territories. Our mwf merchants say nay.
Suddenly I heard they are discontinuing so I am considering getting one. Naturally from the source and a NIB, liken to a "vixxin" always cost more!! Unless there are options...
I am grateful for the suggestion and the pm's. At least AP is on mwf radar..at least for this moment! Haha, just too much coverage on pam and rollie...
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too bad SGD is way too strong and RM is super weak now. so Spore is nope for now.
so you getting ya 15300 from starhill soon? wondering if we go together can get better offer or not :)
anyway im still thinking which one to for it.
bro try compare others who also selling AP beside the one at Starhill. You might get better offer. good luck
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Another good place to get cheap parallel imported AP and Rollie is Japan. Definitely lower than boleh land. U can pm me for the details if u r real keen.
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Another good place to get cheap parallel imported AP and Rollie is Japan. Definitely lower than boleh land. U can pm me for the details if u r real keen.
you import them? how cheap? rm1k? 3k? thanks
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Another good place to get cheap parallel imported AP and Rollie is Japan. Definitely lower than boleh land. U can pm me for the details if u r real keen.
you import them? how cheap? rm1k? 3k? thanks
Lol, if by importing watches and selling to you guys can sustain my life style, i am more than happy. :Cheers:
1k? 3K? Sure, let me grab them from Shenzhen. How many you want? :Dancing_banana:
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Another good place to get cheap parallel imported AP and Rollie is Japan. Definitely lower than boleh land. U can pm me for the details if u r real keen.
you import them? how cheap? rm1k? 3k? thanks
Lol, if by importing watches and selling to you guys can sustain my life style, i am more than happy. :Cheers:
1k? 3K? Sure, let me grab them from Shenzhen. How many you want? :Dancing_banana:
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Bro u misunderstood. I mean 1k or 3k cheaper then AD? Not saying a watch cost 1-3k
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I see I see brother. If its just 1-3k cheaper than ad then there is no point to consider non AD. Generally their cut is much :Cheers:higher.
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I see I see brother. If its just 1-3k cheaper than ad then there is no point to consider non AD. Generally their cut is much :Cheers:higher.
so u mean alot cheaper? 5k? 10k? only AP? how abt Rolex?
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HI sm, if you have an average size wrist, opt for the 41mm . and if its small, get the 39mm.. Ive seen both sizes at the penang boutique this morning, and the thickness is about the same...
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Do they have smaller version of RO? I know they released a new white dial RO at 37mm. Not sure if they previously release smaller RO apart from ladies version.
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i believe they have the lady size for the RO and ROO range but most models seem to come with bling!
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I see I see brother. If its just 1-3k cheaper than ad then there is no point to consider non AD. Generally their cut is much :Cheers:higher.
so u mean alot cheaper? 5k? 10k? only AP? how abt Rolex?
Yes, even rollie sports model. can get it at [Discussion on disc removed - MOD] off list price. But of course thats not the case in malaysia. Msia rollie Ads are just ripping people off.
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I see I see brother. If its just 1-3k cheaper than ad then there is no point to consider non AD. Generally their cut is much :Cheers:higher.
so u mean alot cheaper? 5k? 10k? only AP? how abt Rolex?
Yes, even rollie sports model. can get it at [Discussion on disc removed - MOD] off list price. But of course thats not the case in malaysia. Msia rollie Ads are just ripping people off.
don't know why we cannot discusst on disc?? because MWF have to protect AD??
anyway buying from AD is like a game :) a fun game. i checked out few AD and talked alot with them.
I went to get my new toy yesterday and market shd be very bad this year.
I got what i want and good price too. VERY happy with it now ....
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don't know why we cannot discusst on disc?? because MWF have to protect AD??
anyway buying from AD is like a game :) a fun game.
It is actually the non commercial nature of the forum. The forum would like to remain neutral and allowing the discussion of discounts and naming the AD that offers the discounts would disadvantage other ADs. Additionally, the forum does not want to be placed in a position where people in the business visit to know what the competitors are doing in terms of pricing and discounts.
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don't know why we cannot discusst on disc?? because MWF have to protect AD??
anyway buying from AD is like a game :) a fun game.
It is actually the non commercial nature of the forum. The forum would like to remain neutral and allowing the discussion of discounts and naming the AD that offers the discounts would disadvantage other ADs. Additionally, the forum does not want to be placed in a position where people in the business visit to know what the competitors are doing in terms of pricing and discounts.
i understand now. lucky i did my homework. actually sometimes we can get better price from local AD then grey importer but also depend on the brand and model :)
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hi, newbie here..
hope to get a pre-owned 15300 soon ;D
what's the market rate for pre-owned 15300 in Malaysia? it's ~SGD11k in Singapore.
thanks..
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Go for 15400. Much better than 15300 which is a bit small for today standard.
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q481/iwcking/IMG01043-20120711-1751-1.jpg)
I have a normal asian wrist i must say, not big and neither small. 15400's 41" is just perfect.
15300's 39" size looks a bit timid i must say.
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q481/iwcking/IMG01045-20120711-1804.jpg)
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Hi sm
I have owned the 15202 for close to 8 years and have not regretted the purchase. I like the slimness of the case and the bracelet and of course the non second hand feature. The watch is unique in its own. There is also nothing wrong with 15300 or 15400. 15400 was a bit too big on my wrist and I felt that the dial was unbalanced imho. Let us know your choice....
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Did the OP go after the 15300? Are there anymore 15300 around?
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Diff to find new 15300; 15400 avail at most AD & boutique, price increased.
Still can get new 15202, & at same old list price!