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Title: New and Old SUB
Post by: edshere on June 05, 2012, 10:00:46 AM
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/DSCF0390.jpg)
Junior meet Gramps

Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: TheHobbit on June 05, 2012, 11:36:16 AM
Nice pair, cousins more appropriate.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: skygan on June 05, 2012, 02:05:40 PM
nice Rolex Sub...! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: davidtth on June 05, 2012, 03:04:22 PM
welcome aboard ed, nice big and small sub bro u have  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: edshere on June 05, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/DSCF0398.jpg)

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: sm on June 09, 2012, 11:13:44 AM
beautiful!
Rolex did it again! Marginal increase in size and using Ceramic, it sets the new standards and increase the demand for not only sub but also deepsea and GMT.

Google Ceramic and we shall learn to appreciate the versatility and strength of the material.

Congrats to you, wear it in good health!

Maybe in future, someday somewhere, they will make watches w balancing ions, ie reduce the body acidity w alkalinity!!

sm
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Scott C. on June 11, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
Good to see you all ;)

Ed, share more ;)
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Godzillaz on June 15, 2012, 07:06:21 AM
I'm a bit lost. Which one is older?

The 1680 or

the 14060 (what I can see of the pic) but there's no metal circle on the hour index.  Hence I'm not sure whether it is a 14060.

Regards
Tyler

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/DSCF0398.jpg)

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: drainbamage on June 15, 2012, 12:09:36 PM
The 1680 is older than the 14060. The white gold on the hour marker were introduced during the mid 80s. So I guess this 1680 is an early one. The 14060 was born on 1989.

Cheers  :Cheers:


I'm a bit lost. Which one is older?

The 1680 or

the 14060 (what I can see of the pic) but there's no metal circle on the hour index.  Hence I'm not sure whether it is a 14060.

Regards
Tyler

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/DSCF0398.jpg)

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: ck77 on June 15, 2012, 12:17:14 PM
I believe Tyler's question is he can't see the white gold surround on your 14060M COSC.
I think is due to your black and white picture.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: drainbamage on June 15, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
Oh i see. Sorry I misunderstood Tyler's question.  :-X
Yeah I think it's the black and white contrast. I agree its quite hard to see the markings from the pic.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: edshere on June 15, 2012, 03:00:26 PM
No need to apologize. You are right.

I set the camera with an aperature to focus on the 1680 and thus the white gold surrounds on the 14060 is hard to see.

So to answer the question as u have for me, the 1680 is indeed the much older watch.


Regards.

Ed
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Godzillaz on June 15, 2012, 03:21:30 PM
So the younger brother is a 14060M I presume because a COSC 14060 doesn't exist.

Anyway back to the point. Good to see someone appreciate the vintage stuff.

Ever thinking of switching the 1680 to Nato? It looks great  ;D

Regards
Tyler



No need to apologize. You are right.

I set the camera with an aperature to focus on the 1680 and thus the white gold surrounds on the 14060 is hard to see.

So to answer the question as u have for me, the 1680 is indeed the much older watch.


Regards.

Ed
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: drainbamage on June 15, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
Stunning pieces indeed!
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: edshere on June 15, 2012, 05:25:48 PM
Godzillaz: again u are right. However a 5512 is cosc not?

Nato straps are abound and yes i have some. Will post up some shortly.

The 1680 is sweet cos historically its the first sub with a cyclops. And.....to reiterate, do u know how rolex came abt with cyclops date?
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: TheHobbit on June 15, 2012, 06:34:20 PM
Godzillaz: again u are right. However a 5512 is cosc not?

Nato straps are abound and yes i have some. Will post up some shortly.

The 1680 is sweet cos historically its the first sub with a cyclops. And.....to reiterate, do u know how rolex came abt with cyclops date?

Not all 5512 are COSC. Early 5512 were not.

As for the cyclops, I believe Rolex first introduced it in he 50s. How they came about it, I don't know. I do know that the cyclops were an option in early GMT Masters.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Godzillaz on June 15, 2012, 08:31:57 PM
Well. That's why I said I am abit lost initially becasue if it's 5512 then the 1680 is the younger ones here.  :D

Regards
Tyler

Godzillaz: again u are right. However a 5512 is cosc not?

Nato straps are abound and yes i have some. Will post up some shortly.

The 1680 is sweet cos historically its the first sub with a cyclops. And.....to reiterate, do u know how rolex came abt with cyclops date?
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: edshere on June 15, 2012, 09:20:01 PM
Thanks MrHobbit. . . It's a four liner so it can only mean.....ah well, perhaps my question was too general.  Thanks for the historical reiteration that the cyclops was made as an option for the GMT.

Nonetheless, It's about the sharing and I'm sure I can learn from this local forum.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: edshere on June 19, 2012, 09:18:00 PM
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolex1b.jpg)
TheTrio of Cyclops

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolex2.jpg)
Black or Bond

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolexnodate.jpg)
The Young One
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: SeaDwellerR on July 30, 2012, 01:06:31 PM
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolex1b.jpg)
TheTrio of Cyclops

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolex2.jpg)
Black or Bond

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolexnodate.jpg)
The Young One

I was like "wow wow and wow..." when i saw this.

Nice collection bro!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: chrisyen on July 30, 2012, 09:30:37 PM
whoa.... great collection....
and the vintage pieces also in pristine condition
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Vintimes on September 13, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
I love the old vintage dial especially the matte dial with non metal marker. 1680, 1655, 5512 and 5513 are simply gorgeoues, you have a nice collection there. It is getting harder to find now, especially fully original dial untouched. I will love to own one 1655, just love the superdome crystal glass.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: tonykpk on September 23, 2012, 02:50:08 PM
Wow u must have love the sub a lot 2 own all those. Enjoy wearing them. tony
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: edshere on September 28, 2012, 06:33:06 AM
Hi fellow watch enthusiasts.  Sorry havent been in the forum lately due to work.

I like the Sub for it's simple, clean and utilitarian purposes.  It's basically designed as a tool watch.

There are other brands of vintage watches which I like but like most, budget constraints would mean exploring other great watch brands would need some more time and investments in the future.

Great to see the love for other Rolex vintages here and have seen quite a few good ones on the forum too.

Wish you all well and have a great weekend.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: boonzy111 on April 06, 2013, 09:24:01 AM
One of the best value for money daily watch.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: citytime86 on April 13, 2013, 11:34:47 AM
Very good to invest............. :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: skuirtgun on December 16, 2013, 04:23:57 PM
Old is gold.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: skuirtgun on December 16, 2013, 04:50:45 PM
I don't have a new Rolex but heres an old and older Rolex. On the left 1977 ref 1680, on the right 1967 ref 5512.

(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab99/skuirtgun/02B72E73-54C9-40AB-BAD4-08ADA87653A9_zpsydprvxxl.jpg) (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/skuirtgun/media/02B72E73-54C9-40AB-BAD4-08ADA87653A9_zpsydprvxxl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: mav23 on December 21, 2013, 12:25:51 PM
Godzillaz: again u are right. However a 5512 is cosc not?

Nato straps are abound and yes i have some. Will post up some shortly.

The 1680 is sweet cos historically its the first sub with a cyclops. And.....to reiterate, do u know how rolex came abt with cyclops date?

Not all 5512 are COSC. Early 5512 were not.

kindly correct me as i might be misinformed. per my understanding, 5512 is indeed COSC all the while though "chronometer" is not stated on some early 5512 gilt dials but the chapter ring dictates the COSC specs. sale of 5512 did not take off due to its high price point in the past. there led to the rarity of 5512 n popularity of 5513.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: TheHobbit on December 21, 2013, 06:00:03 PM


kindly correct me as i might be misinformed. per my understanding, 5512 is indeed COSC all the while though "chronometer" is not stated on some early 5512 gilt dials but the chapter ring dictates the COSC specs. sale of 5512 did not take off due to its high price point in the past. there led to the rarity of 5512 n popularity of 5513.

You may very well be right. There are many theories and stories (?) or 'facts' about Rolex watches and the 5512 is no different. There are those who say that the 5512 have indeed from the start been COSC rated but the 4 liner came about to differentiate it from the 5513 which was introduced after the 5512. True or not? Who knows.

The other interesting thing about the 5512 is that early 5512 were fitted with caliber 1520 and 1530 which were not COSC rated. The thing is, some claim the early 5512 were even seen with caliber 1030 and we know that the caliber 1030 came both with and without COSC. As such, who is to say that the caliber 1520 and 1530 fitted in the early 5512 is not COSC.

Well some say that the 5512 were never fitted with the caliber 1520.

I do know that the COSC 5512 were fitted with caliber 1560 and 1570, which I believe were COSC rated caliber. I believe that these 5512 were the 4 liner 5512. If it is true the 5512 fitted with caliber 1560 were 4 liner 5512, than this would put to rest the theory that the 4 liner was introduced to differentiate it from the 5513. This is because the 5513 was introduced in 1964 while 5512 with the caliber 1560 were introduced circa 1961.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: enkil on February 18, 2014, 01:58:53 PM
Looks really good even today.   :Cheers: :Cheers:

I don't have a new Rolex but heres an old and older Rolex. On the left 1977 ref 1680, on the right 1967 ref 5512.

(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab99/skuirtgun/02B72E73-54C9-40AB-BAD4-08ADA87653A9_zpsydprvxxl.jpg) (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/skuirtgun/media/02B72E73-54C9-40AB-BAD4-08ADA87653A9_zpsydprvxxl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: theseira on February 23, 2014, 08:12:37 PM
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolex1b.jpg)
TheTrio of Cyclops

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolex2.jpg)
Black or Bond

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/mini_tots/rolexnodate.jpg)
The Young One

nice subs and nice cam of course!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: JeepWH on March 08, 2014, 07:03:00 AM
Love the old subs more
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: h.chang on March 08, 2014, 07:33:13 AM
Both subs are just great. A pleasure to own and wear.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: yo_watch on May 16, 2014, 07:24:26 AM
sub is always the classic watch no matter old n new.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Calibr on May 16, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
Old subs are not for everybody.. some, like me, prefers the newer version with better lume and comfortable clasps.
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Spider boy on May 16, 2014, 04:01:58 PM
Old subs are gems and hard to come by and it's a minefield out there when you are hunting for even older subs. I love old ones for now ...maybe I have seen too many new ones making them too common and less loved. And it's a human nature that the harder to get something the better the thing  is ..lol ...
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Calibr on May 16, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
Old subs are gems and hard to come by and it's a minefield out there when you are hunting for even older subs. I love old ones for now ...maybe I have seen too many new ones making them too common and less loved. And it's a human nature that the harder to get something the better the thing  is ..lol ...

Buying old subs, like all old or vintage watches, requires lots of knowledge of the products. Plenty of "franken-watches" out there enticing the buyers. Minefield is not an over-statement!
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: 9tailsfox on May 10, 2015, 06:35:41 AM
1680 are the first sub dates.....
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Top2 on November 21, 2015, 11:11:05 AM
i love the rolex 1680,is it for sale?
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Timeless on November 22, 2015, 05:15:18 AM
I like 1680, more vintage
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Frogman on November 30, 2015, 10:10:17 AM
I would prefer the old version.  8)
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: yo_watch on March 19, 2016, 06:48:27 AM
value for money as well as interest!
Title: Re: New and Old SUB
Post by: Hope on March 21, 2016, 10:31:51 PM
Dear Sub owner,u guys ever compare 14060 glass as clear as latest SUB?and the finishing as well?
Cause I planning to own one 14060