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Title: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 08, 2012, 05:25:39 PM
To all sifu and watch lover,
Finally after months of this watch poison, I finally summit myself to fate  :Confused:
My criteria is GMT is a must have. Time zone is critical when I need to call oversea. It will be a day to day watch.
I'm thinking of Rolex Master GMT 2 or Panerai GMTm :Blue:
Which watch will you choose or recommend?

Tq
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: G.MAC on May 08, 2012, 06:22:38 PM
what is your budget, wrist size?? For Rolex GMT, are you referring to the GMTIIc or the GMTII? For PAM GMT, are you referring to the 88? 320?
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 08, 2012, 06:42:20 PM
Good question. Never thought of my wrist size. Should I measure it first? How?
I'm referring to GMT2c and Pam 320 or any other choice. Budget around 25k
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: jacky8888 on May 08, 2012, 07:03:38 PM
Rolex gmt master 2c :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: MadZiZ on May 08, 2012, 07:11:29 PM
Pam 320!!! Then strap changing to give you a different look when you feel like a change ;)
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Pajero on May 08, 2012, 07:33:16 PM
I prefer Rolex GMTIIc

Panerai's GMT is too busy. i prefer Panerai with a less busy dial
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: TheHobbit on May 08, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
It all depends. Do you move about (across time zones) much? Do you need to track GMT? Or do you need to track a particular time zone? The PAM00320 is a 12 hour GMT with no day and night indicator while the Rolex is a true GMT watch.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: rusminag on May 08, 2012, 07:40:53 PM
With rm25k++, you can deal for 2 preloved rolex.. A gmt master2 and an explorer2. Both with gmt function. Go for rolex because their 2nd time zone is easier to set rather than panerai's.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: hanz079 on May 08, 2012, 07:50:28 PM
GmtIIc without a shadow of doubt for me...  ;D
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: dpkong on May 08, 2012, 07:54:24 PM

between your choice of GMT2c and Panerai, i would recommend GMT2c.

but do consider looking at the Rolex Explorer 2 as well. tracks another single timezone much better since it gives you night/day indication. i set mine to UTC+0 so it's easier to count other time zones as offsets from that.


Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: bwee on May 08, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
Roleks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: MadZiZ on May 08, 2012, 09:00:55 PM
Lots of lolex fans.....i have a rolexs and i have pams... :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Gigi on May 08, 2012, 09:03:24 PM
GMT master II Ceramic... Look beautiful in person. More balanced feel over the oversize pam. Unless u had big wrist. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Movement wise.. Rolex wins all hands down  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 08, 2012, 10:10:06 PM
It all depends. Do you move about (across time zones) much? Do you need to track GMT? Or do you need to track a particular time zone? The PAM00320 is a 12 hour GMT with no day and night indicator while the Rolex is a true GMT watch.

Thank you to all the sifu feedback.
No, I do not move across time zone but just need to track time zone on different country.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 08, 2012, 10:16:08 PM
Btw, any recommendation on best discount and good service shop around KL for Rolex. Can pm me.
Thanks again
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: gloomis on May 09, 2012, 05:33:14 AM
pam 320 will be a great choice if u can accept big watch. as some say u can change the strap once u get bored. diff color and material strap makes the watch looks diff and like a new watch again. Further more this watch come with easy strap change system where u can change strap easily.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: ivanpei on May 09, 2012, 07:01:26 AM
GMT2c, really cantik!  :thumbsup: Especially the two tone versions! The numbering on the Bezel in gold really WOW!

For pure stainless steel, can consider the Explorer 2 also because it looks nicer in SS and is quite big/legible. I'm not a leather strap fan so not really into PAMs.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: meoramri on May 09, 2012, 07:21:22 AM
Rolex - for the ease of operating the gmt function
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Godzillaz on May 09, 2012, 07:43:35 AM
Look around in the for sale thread here. Going to the AD/Reseller won't get you good discount if any discount at all. Some of the seller here are really honorable. See the watch before you deal. There might be minor scratch or ding that bothers you which may not show on the photograph on the post.

I think GMTIIc is really the one you should aim for. I love panerai but only the base model. Unless is a Mare :P

Regards
Tyler

Btw, any recommendation on best discount and good service shop around KL for Rolex. Can pm me.
Thanks again
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: G.MAC on May 09, 2012, 08:11:17 AM
GMTIIc unless you are looking at a PAM321 then I'd go with PAM because of the extra PR complication.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 09, 2012, 09:27:15 AM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:
Anyhow, I will look out for Rolex GMT2c or latest Explorer 2 to reward myself for all this years  :Jumping:
Keeping this secret adventure from home minister  ;D
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: rusminag on May 09, 2012, 09:32:58 AM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:
Anyhow, I will look out for Rolex GMT2c or latest Explorer 2 to reward myself for all this years  :Jumping:
Keeping this secret adventure from home minister  ;D

Yes. Use your private credit card which sent the bill to your office... And if she ask, tell her that it is a cheap replica.....he..he...
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: MadZiZ on May 09, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:
Anyhow, I will look out for Rolex GMT2c or latest Explorer 2 to reward myself for all this years  :Jumping:
Keeping this secret adventure from home minister  ;D

Yes. Use your private credit card which sent the bill to your office... And if she ask, tell her that it is a cheap replica.....he..he...

Haha smart idea but did not work for me  :Laughing_on_floor: Wife had me sleep outside until i confessed.....LOL. Ended up me getting her a Lolex too to make peace offering go through  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Alvin-8880 on May 09, 2012, 10:44:26 AM
I prefer GMT IIc. The hour font on bezel looks so nice.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm184/Alvin-8880/GMT-IIc.jpg)
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Laktos Kid on May 09, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
My cousin has a GMT Explorer II, it feels good when i'm wearing it  ;D
so it's GMT 2 +1 for me  :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: G.MAC on May 09, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:

I hope that is a typo because you cant get a rolex for RM2k. :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: shamtv2555 on May 09, 2012, 01:29:45 PM
gmt 2 ur 25k still manage to get, if 25k for panerai gmt i think a bit difficult...
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: dsiewmy on May 09, 2012, 06:10:55 PM
Look around in the for sale thread here. Going to the AD/Reseller won't get you good discount if any discount at all. Some of the seller here are really honorable. See the watch before you deal. There might be minor scratch or ding that bothers you which may not show on the photograph on the post.

I think GMTIIc is really the one you should aim for. I love panerai but only the base model. Unless is a Mare :P

Regards
Tyler

Btw, any recommendation on best discount and good service shop around KL for Rolex. Can pm me.
Thanks again

BRO, u super bias la.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: dsiewmy on May 09, 2012, 06:12:34 PM
i have a piece of advice, all talk and only photos don't really help.
go try the watches.

GMT2c and PAM320/321 are not difficult to find. Look for them and try them on.
Trust me, watches and love are pretty similar, once u feel it, u will know which you want.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: gloomis on May 09, 2012, 07:04:02 PM
i have a piece of advice, all talk and only photos don't really help.
go try the watches.

GMT2c and PAM320/321 are not difficult to find. Look for them and try them on.
Trust me, watches and love are pretty similar, once u feel it, u will know which you want.

this is a good 1 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: dpkong on May 09, 2012, 07:15:40 PM

aye.. good advice to try on before you commit. the watch you really like will make your heart beat a little faster after you put it on and look at it.

i do suggest looking at pre-owned shops for better deals. when shopping for pre-owned, it's more tricky since you would really need to know and trust the seller.

if you must buy from ADs, then understand that there is little discount for Rolex. i don't know about the SS Rolex models but the two-tone models were only 10% off no matter how hard i tried to bargain. ended up buying LNIB off the internet with fantastic savings.

happy hunting!


Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: watchmanu on May 09, 2012, 08:11:34 PM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:

I hope that is a typo because you cant get a rolex for RM2k. :Laughing_on_floor:

I hope he is not looking for repli**  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: JayJay on May 09, 2012, 08:25:46 PM
Zen,

GMT IIc is good benchmark for GMT,
i purchase that a year ago still my favourite.

now thinking of getting 321 or maybe 320
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Godzillaz on May 10, 2012, 06:07:47 AM
Me, super bias? Never  >:( As far as I concern a panerai collection should consist of these if not only these

PAM 64, 8, 217, 232, 249, 372, 341, 36, 5218-201/A, 5218-301/A, 6154 and maybe the 9A.

I think that's all. I'm not greedy.  :D

Regards
Tyler

Look around in the for sale thread here. Going to the AD/Reseller won't get you good discount if any discount at all. Some of the seller here are really honorable. See the watch before you deal. There might be minor scratch or ding that bothers you which may not show on the photograph on the post.

I think GMTIIc is really the one you should aim for. I love panerai but only the base model. Unless is a Mare :P

Regards
Tyler

Btw, any recommendation on best discount and good service shop around KL for Rolex. Can pm me.
Thanks again

BRO, u super bias la.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: gloomis on May 10, 2012, 06:13:46 AM
Me, super bias? Never  >:( As far as I concern a panerai collection should consist of these if not only these

PAM 64, 8, 217, 232, 249, 372, 341, 36, 5218-201/A, 5218-301/A, 6154 and maybe the 9A.

I think that's all. I'm not greedy.  :D

Regards
Tyler

wah...thats not really alot.

i jus want a little less than u

if i can have 9A 201A 360 232 239 is good enuf. Close chapter....
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Godzillaz on May 10, 2012, 06:19:30 AM
Isn't it redundant to have the 360 when I already have the 9A and 201/A?  :Confused:

A Mare or the new 399 case variant is what I would add to replace the 360.  :P


PS no MM dial?  ;)

Regards
Tyler

Me, super bias? Never  >:( As far as I concern a panerai collection should consist of these if not only these

PAM 64, 8, 217, 232, 249, 372, 341, 36, 5218-201/A, 5218-301/A, 6154 and maybe the 9A.

I think that's all. I'm not greedy.  :D

Regards
Tyler

wah...thats not really alot.

i jus want a little less than u

if i can have 9A 201A 360 232 239 is good enuf. Close chapter....
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: TheHobbit on May 10, 2012, 06:20:07 AM
Me, super bias? Never  >:( As far as I concern a panerai collection should consist of these if not only these

PAM 64, 8, 217, 232, 249, 372, 341, 36, 5218-201/A, 5218-301/A, 6154 and maybe the 9A.

I think that's all. I'm not greedy.  :D

Regards
Tyler

wah...thats not really alot.

i jus want a little less than u

if i can have 9A 201A 360 232 239 is good enuf. Close chapter....

Wow, I don't even have any from the list above........ :'(
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Godzillaz on May 10, 2012, 06:22:19 AM

Neither do I ... ... except may two ... ... or three  ::)

It's a dream list anyway.  ;D

Regards
Tyler

Me, super bias? Never  >:( As far as I concern a panerai collection should consist of these if not only these

PAM 64, 8, 217, 232, 249, 372, 341, 36, 5218-201/A, 5218-301/A, 6154 and maybe the 9A.

I think that's all. I'm not greedy.  :D

Regards
Tyler

wah...thats not really alot.

i jus want a little less than u

if i can have 9A 201A 360 232 239 is good enuf. Close chapter....

Wow, I don't even have any from the list above........ :'(
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 10, 2012, 06:35:30 AM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:
Anyhow, I will look out for Rolex GMT2c or latest Explorer 2 to reward myself for all this years  :Jumping:
Keeping this secret adventure from home minister  ;D

Yes. Use your private credit card which sent the bill to your office... And if she ask, tell her that it is a cheap replica.....he..he...

Prefer to use cash instead of credit card which can be traceable no matter where u sent the bill. When she finally see me wearing then I can tell her it's a replica from bkt Bintang area  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 10, 2012, 06:38:27 AM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:

I hope that is a typo because you cant get a rolex for RM2k. :Laughing_on_floor:

Errrr..
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 10, 2012, 06:48:20 AM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:

I hope that is a typo because you cant get a rolex for RM2k. :Laughing_on_floor:

I hope he is not looking for repli**  :Laughing_on_floor:

If only you read my earlier post. ;D
Anyway, I repeat again for your understanding. ;D
I budgeted around RM25k for the Rolex or Pam this time (a big jump of more than 10x)  :Jumping:
Its my first watch above RM2k means all this while I only buy some cheapo below RM2k like Seiko, Casio, Steinhart, etc etc. Hope you get my understanding this time  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: gloomis on May 10, 2012, 07:26:59 AM
Isn't it redundant to have the 360 when I already have the 9A and 201/A?  :Confused:

A Mare or the new 399 case variant is what I would add to replace the 360.  :P


PS no MM dial?  ;)

Regards
Tyler


9A is PVD but no logo, 360 is pvd with logo mah....so i like both.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: rusminag on May 10, 2012, 07:27:45 AM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:
Anyhow, I will look out for Rolex GMT2c or latest Explorer 2 to reward myself for all this years  :Jumping:
Keeping this secret adventure from home minister  ;D

Yes. Use your private credit card which sent the bill to your office... And if she ask, tell her that it is a cheap replica.....he..he...

Prefer to use cash instead of credit card which can be traceable no matter where u sent the bill. When she finally see me wearing then I can tell her it's a replica from bkt Bintang area  :Laughing_on_floor:

RM25k cash? you can really press the sales agent for more discounts / gifts / or a date (if super hot chick)... :Dancing_banana: :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 10, 2012, 10:26:35 AM
Thank you, sifu-sifu out there.
It's my first watch above RM2k  :Praying:
Anyhow, I will look out for Rolex GMT2c or latest Explorer 2 to reward myself for all this years  :Jumping:
Keeping this secret adventure from home minister  ;D

Yes. Use your private credit card which sent the bill to your office... And if she ask, tell her that it is a cheap replica.....he..he...

Prefer to use cash instead of credit card which can be traceable no matter where u sent the bill. When she finally see me wearing then I can tell her it's a replica from bkt Bintang area  :Laughing_on_floor:

RM25k cash? you can really press the sales agent for more discounts / gifts / or a date (if super hot chick)... :Dancing_banana: :Dancing_banana:

Yes, i prefer More discount and gift but not hot chicks. Don't get me wrong, I love hot chicks but too much of a good things is no good for our health and pocket  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: kentkoh79 on May 11, 2012, 08:04:59 AM
if this is your first luxury watch....prefer to go for GMT IIC.....then only get panerai later :) if can......get both ! no hassle.... :Laughing_on_floor:
Just share with u my GMT IIc TT ....
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t477/kentkoh79/IMG_0530.jpg)
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t477/kentkoh79/photo1.jpg)
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: shamtv2555 on May 11, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
poison..........
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Scuderianer0 on May 11, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IcBhCmST4iE/T6zgstZclKI/AAAAAAAAAZE/Ocx9aJ-sJUU/s640/blogger-image-2020929010.jpg)
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 11, 2012, 07:16:18 PM
if this is your first luxury watch....prefer to go for GMT IIC.....then only get panerai later :) if can......get both ! no hassle.... :Laughing_on_floor:
Just share with u my GMT IIc TT ....
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t477/kentkoh79/IMG_0530.jpg)
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t477/kentkoh79/photo1.jpg)

Wow...u really make me drooling...
Thank you for sharing
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: zen on May 11, 2012, 07:23:16 PM
All the sifu really poison me kau kau...A big Thank you.
Btw, one more question, if all the sifu don't mind.
What is the pro and con buying from non AD compare to AD? Beside non AD might be slightly cheaper, what about warrenty, servicing, etc etc?

p/s: going to Jalan Jalan cuci mata at Fahrenheit, Pavillion and Starhill tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: dpkong on May 11, 2012, 07:35:53 PM

depending on which non-AD you visit, they might provide their own warranty. if you're talking new watches, the 2 year warranty should be available to you as well so long as the warranty papers are in proper order.

Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: WatchGalaxyMelawatiMall on September 20, 2017, 12:43:36 PM
Hi there,

In my opinion, I will choose Rolex GMT 2. I think Rolex GMT 2 is more valuable than Panerai GMT 2.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: kukujiao on September 23, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
To the OP in 2012, look at the pricr of gmt2 and pam gmt now, Rolex best haha

Sent from my SM-N9208 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: kenzojovi on October 01, 2017, 07:26:42 PM
Rolex !!
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: alooith on October 05, 2017, 12:31:06 PM
rolex GMT!
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Timeless on October 05, 2017, 04:42:36 PM
Duo colors and turnable bezel are seems to be more practical.
Title: Re: Rolex Master GMT 2 / Panerai GMT
Post by: Fugazi on October 05, 2017, 06:14:21 PM
GMT2 any day