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Main Forums => General Discussion - Modern Watches => Topic started by: Godzillaz on April 18, 2012, 06:44:38 AM
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Any one interested in a bronze case diver style sport watch that make specially for own forum?
On a recent GTG, some one in the group that they will be interested in one.
I myself will be proud to own one. However we need to gauge the numbers of people who are keen.
May we see a show of hand who is interested on this Bronze diver watch? If the number is too low then it might not happen.
Regards
Tyler
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I am interested. Provided the price is not in the region of the bronzo.
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What would be a right region. Do you have a range in mind? 10k still not in the region of bronzo :Confused:
Regards
Tyler
I am interested. Provided the price is not in the region of the bronzo.
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I'm in ...but of coz need to have a look first! :thumbsup:
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Gotta see the design and the price. Who is gonna design it?
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What design would you like to see and what price range do you prefer?
Regards
Tyler
Gotta see the design and the price. Who is gonna design it?
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Designing and planning a project watch is no easy task.
Most will be interested in discussion stage...
During design stage, everyone have their own preference.
Dimensions, case design, hands, movement to use etc.
Once pricing is out, you will know how many are really interested.
And if the numbers do not add up, we end up spending lost time planning, designing, sourcing of cases, movements, dial and hands and etc.
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Agree with bro hanz. But logically the viable bronze case would be of a diver or panerai-like. Personally I think the pricing would be in the region of RM5k. We have to bear in mind that this is a bronze watch and many will quote magrette and their low pricing but it ended up to be brass. So we have to be really realistic in this.
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That's the reason for this post. If the response is position then maybe we can proceed to talk to manufacturer.
Regards
Tyler
Designing and planning a project watch is no easy task.
Most will be interested in discussion stage...
During design stage, everyone have their own preference.
Dimensions, case design, hands, movement to use etc.
Once pricing is out, you will know how many are really interested.
And if the numbers do not add up, we end up spending lost time planning, designing, sourcing of cases, movements, dial and hands and etc.
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Some references or views on project watches... ><
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,3287.0.html
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,14.0.html
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,3254.0.html
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We have to bear in mind that this is a bronze watch and many will quote magrette and their low pricing but it ended up to be brass.
Not defending them but it was not their fault. Other micro brands were also impacted by the same supplier who promised bronze but delivered brass.
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not blaming. Just setting things straight from the start. Bronze cases arent cheap. Just want to clarify that point.
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I am interested,
Care to provide photo first?
And some basic specs
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We are not even close to that point yet.
If we have the finish watch or prototype then this post would be redundant.
1st we need to know how many are interested then at what price range.
When we have a glue of how many people are interested and at what price people are comfortable to pay.
Only then we come to ...
2nd: Picking the case and design.
Movement wise there ain't that many to choose from, Eta or Miyota. Inhouse movement is a no no unless we're talking a watch that cost 15k. I'm sure no one would pay for that. Regardless of how pretty the movement is.
Regards
Tyler
I am interested,
Care to provide photo first?
And some basic specs
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What design would you like to see and what price range do you prefer?
Regards
Tyler
i personally think that bronze watch should stay true to the dive watch design
super compressor case would be good, preferrably with a 22mm lug width
machine wise, for date, either a miyota 9015 or the famous eta 2824
if no date design, can consider a vostok 2416
price range... of course as low as possible :Laughing_on_floor:
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We are not even close to that point yet.
If we have the finish watch or prototype then this post would be redundant.
1st we need to know how many are interested then at what price range.
When we have a glue of how many people are interested and at what price people are comfortable to pay.
Only then we come to ...
2nd: Picking the case and design.
Movement wise there ain't that many to choose from, Eta or Miyota. Inhouse movement is a no no unless we're talking a watch that cost 15k. I'm sure no one would pay for that. Regardless of how pretty the movement is.
Regards
Tyler
yes, forum watch project is a difficult one,
i would suggest that someone design a watch and try to get the price from the supplier
THEN post the design and price range and see who is interested
isn't that what most micro brands are doing?
and they collect deposit too...
btw, anyone knows any malaysian watch case maker?
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Too many cook spoil the soup.
Look at past "projects".
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That's not a good idea because if we just go ahead with design without knowing how many watch we're going to order and at what price then it's a massive work. Not fair to those who put in the effort. If the project don't materialise then all those effort are wasted.
Regards
Tyler
We are not even close to that point yet.
If we have the finish watch or prototype then this post would be redundant.
1st we need to know how many are interested then at what price range.
When we have a glue of how many people are interested and at what price people are comfortable to pay.
Only then we come to ...
2nd: Picking the case and design.
Movement wise there ain't that many to choose from, Eta or Miyota. Inhouse movement is a no no unless we're talking a watch that cost 15k. I'm sure no one would pay for that. Regardless of how pretty the movement is.
Regards
Tyler
yes, forum watch project is a difficult one,
i would suggest that someone design a watch and try to get the price from the supplier
THEN post the design and price range and see who is interested
isn't that what most micro brands are doing?
and they collect deposit too...
btw, anyone knows any malaysian watch case maker?
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Interested!!!
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Thanks. Still we have less than 10 but still not bad for day old post.
Regards
Tyler
Interested!!!
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count me in if the budget is within my range and if i manage to obtain HM approval...am i the no. 10? :Laughing_on_floor:
but ofcoz would love to look at the design and movement as well. :thumbsup:
please do keep me in the loop. :Cheers:
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:Cheers: i'm in*
*terms and conditions apply
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OK. 7 people so far.
Regards
Tyler
:Cheers: i'm in*
*terms and conditions apply
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Count me in. Cheers :Cheers:
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Me too
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Count me in if this is 42mm or 44mm :Cheers:
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OK. 10 pax. Finally getting to double digit.
Regards
Tyler
Count me in if this is 42mm or 44mm :Cheers:
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Tyler,
I been emailing to Peter from Helson watch right after that GTG and we need at least 50pcs in order to have our own project watch. I think the MOQ is abit hard for us. So i drop this brand at the moment. But if we really hit the dot then we might having HELSON bronze shark diver as our project watch which i personally like it very much :thumbsup:
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Tyler,
I been emailing to Peter from Helson watch right after that GTG and we need at least 50pcs in order to have our own project watch. I think the MOQ is abit hard for us. So i drop this brand at the moment. But if we really hit the dot then we might having HELSON bronze shark diver as our project watch which i personally like it very much :thumbsup:
Buck purchase or project watch?
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Helson bronze shark diver is a lovely piece~ :thumbsup:
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sadly for me if it's around 5k area then nope... would take a chunk of my pay and i could get 2 nice vintage omegas for that price.. but i like any tries to do something special! :thumbsup:
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Thanks Erik.
At least you give us a range for price.
OK, how about RM3000 sounds?
We might have to cut some corner but we will know who we should talk to and who we shouldn't.
Regards
Tyler
sadly for me if it's around 5k area then nope... would take a chunk of my pay and i could get 2 nice vintage omegas for that price.. but i like any tries to do something special! :thumbsup:
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Can try googling up Olivier watches. Looks reasonable and cool for an ETA equipped bronze watch with 2 different bezels and a few dials options to choose from.
Last check it's 850USD I think. Maybe can get cheaper with a bulk order minus all the frills of boxes and etc
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Thanks for the info. Initially I was thinking of contacting manufacturer of these bronze case directly. I might get a foot up my behind to send me out :P
Regards
Tyler
Can try googling up Olivier watches. Looks reasonable and cool for an ETA equipped bronze watch with 2 different bezels and a few dials options to choose from.
Last check it's 850USD I think. Maybe can get cheaper with a bulk order minus all the frills of boxes and etc
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Tyler,
I been emailing to Peter from Helson watch right after that GTG and we need at least 50pcs in order to have our own project watch. I think the MOQ is abit hard for us. So i drop this brand at the moment. But if we really hit the dot then we might having HELSON bronze shark diver as our project watch which i personally like it very much :thumbsup:
Buck purchase or project watch?
bulk purchase with customise to our request, MOD on dial, wording etc
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Tyler,
I been emailing to Peter from Helson watch right after that GTG and we need at least 50pcs in order to have our own project watch. I think the MOQ is abit hard for us. So i drop this brand at the moment. But if we really hit the dot then we might having HELSON bronze shark diver as our project watch which i personally like it very much :thumbsup:
Buck purchase or project watch?
bulk purchase with customise to our request, MOD on dial, wording etc
then it is private label for group....
many small watch company doing this.... u choose a model / design.... then you ask them to change a hand / dial / laser print something on dial / engrave on case back , case side......
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then it is private label for group....
many small watch company doing this.... u choose a model / design.... then you ask them to change a hand / dial / laser print something on dial / engrave on case back , case side......
ya....problem is MOQ at 50pcs is not easy to archieve i think so never make further inquiry
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Hello folks,
Its a great initiative by a member to start a project like this and we salute him! :Dancing_banana:
Just to make things very clear:
MWF the forum and name is in no way associated with this project watch and hence what is planned for this project is by the person who started it only. :thumbsup:
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Thanks you for making it clear that so far the effort have been this one person alone.
MWF is in no way endorsing whatever this person is trying to achieve.
I got the message. Seriously I do.
Regards
Tyler
Hello folks,
Its a great initiative by a member to start a project like this and we salute him! :Dancing_banana:
Just to make things very clear:
MWF the forum and name is in no way associated with this project watch and hence what is planned for this project is by the person who started it only. :thumbsup:
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So any update?
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Nothing new but am exploring whether It's possible to purchase just the bronze case only directly from the manufacturer.
Regards
Tyler
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Nothing new but am exploring whether It's possible to purchase just the bronze case only directly from the manufacturer.
Regards
Tyler
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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I'm interested but honestly, the looking of that "watch" and the price going be the final decision on the pay cheque.
However, terrific idea!
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I will be interested to have one too :)
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I am very much interested too.
Of course, subject to price and the design of the watch too.
Kind regards,
Wilson
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What is a comfortable price for members to buy this project watch?
Less than RM2k or RM1k?
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just stumbled onto this topic and i would like to put my name down for one.
how do i go about that?
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Interesting,
I am keen to join, tell me how?
Is is a bronze material similar to ship propeller ,
I like anonimo bronze mellimetri polluce
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Thanks for all the reply.
Right now I'm planning to contact the case manufacturer in hope of keeping the price down.
I think bronze is the material to aim for but must be careful it don't turn up a brass.
Will update periodically.
Regards
Tyler
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Nice. Count me in too. Subject to price and design of course.
Cheers
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Godzillaz:
it is very tough to get bronze here or in singapore as it is uncommon.
You might need a rather large quantity to start off.
phosphor bronze (PB1) could be much easier.
brass is common, but doesnt pass off for bronze at all due to its low copper content.
Your case manufacturer might decide to plate it with copper though.
If you do run into trouble, drop me a note. I would like to help out with the sourcing.
On another note, why not think about a copper case?
The unfortunate thing would be that it's softer and more prone to corrosion.
You'll also need to ensure that the back is stainless steel, as copper/bronze/brass might irritate some skin types.
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Godzillaz:
it is very tough to get bronze here or in singapore as it is uncommon.
You might need a rather large quantity to start off.
phosphor bronze (PB1) could be much easier.
brass is common, but doesnt pass off for bronze at all due to its low copper content.
Your case manufacturer might decide to plate it with copper though.
If you do run into trouble, drop me a note. I would like to help out with the sourcing.
On another note, why not think about a copper case?
The unfortunate thing would be that it's softer and more prone to corrosion.
You'll also need to ensure that the back is stainless steel, as copper/bronze/brass might irritate some skin types.
we are all in this page because we want bronze, not brass titanium platinum or stainless steel.
Many are concerned about bronze being allergenic, most opted for ss caseback, but I think glass caseback with bronze rim won't irritate the sensitive skin.
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Hi lups,
I'm not a metallurgist so would you be kind enough to state the difference between the more commonly use bronze case (CuSn8) vs phosphor bronze (PB1) you mention on your previous post?
The main concern is the natural discoloration due to oxidation to occur. AKA "patina" We would want this phenomenon to happen. Would PB1 give us the same effect?
Regards
Tyler
Godzillaz:
it is very tough to get bronze here or in singapore as it is uncommon.
You might need a rather large quantity to start off.
phosphor bronze (PB1) could be much easier.
brass is common, but doesnt pass off for bronze at all due to its low copper content.
Your case manufacturer might decide to plate it with copper though.
If you do run into trouble, drop me a note. I would like to help out with the sourcing.
On another note, why not think about a copper case?
The unfortunate thing would be that it's softer and more prone to corrosion.
You'll also need to ensure that the back is stainless steel, as copper/bronze/brass might irritate some skin types.
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Won't everyone would be walking around with green wrist with copper?
It would be worse with our hot weather and sweat.
Godzillaz:
it is very tough to get bronze here or in singapore as it is uncommon.
You might need a rather large quantity to start off.
phosphor bronze (PB1) could be much easier.
brass is common, but doesnt pass off for bronze at all due to its low copper content.
Your case manufacturer might decide to plate it with copper though.
If you do run into trouble, drop me a note. I would like to help out with the sourcing.
On another note, why not think about a copper case?
The unfortunate thing would be that it's softer and more prone to corrosion.
You'll also need to ensure that the back is stainless steel, as copper/bronze/brass might irritate some skin types.
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PB102 is also phosphor bronze. PB102's ISO code is CuSn5.
Rather similiar to the bronze used by Panerai for the Bronzo (CuSn8 or PB104-BS equivalent).
Difference is with the Tin content. More tin = stronger corrosion resistance. Also means higher prices since tin is expensive.
I would assume the biggest problem is with what's available in the market.
PB104 is harder to find; but of course with the right quantities, can be made.
Hell yeah.. it would give you a great patina too :)
i have some products made of PB102 that have been left out for years.
I'll snap a photo and show it to you. Just let me get rid of the dust.
As for the case back, its safer to use high grade stainless steel as terrenceterrence pointed out that we have a hot and humid weather.
The back would oxide faster and would not be pleasant to wear.
Test experiment: I'll put a piece of copper out, brush it with brine and water, and leave it aside. That'll help to decide if you want that touching your wrist :)
* my 2 cents. if i'm wrong, do help to correct me *
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That's great news. I'll pm you later.
Regards
Tyler
PB102 is also phosphor bronze. PB102's ISO code is CuSn5.
Rather similiar to the bronze used by Panerai for the Bronzo (CuSn8 or PB104-BS equivalent).
Difference is with the Tin content. More tin = stronger corrosion resistance. Also means higher prices since tin is expensive.
I would assume the biggest problem is with what's available in the market.
PB104 is harder to find; but of course with the right quantities, can be made.
Hell yeah.. it would give you a great patina too :)
i have some products made of PB102 that have been left out for years.
I'll snap a photo and show it to you. Just let me get rid of the dust.
As for the case back, its safer to use high grade stainless steel as terrenceterrence pointed out that we have a hot and humid weather.
The back would oxide faster and would not be pleasant to wear.
Test experiment: I'll put a piece of copper out, brush it with brine and water, and leave it aside. That'll help to decide if you want that touching your wrist :)
* my 2 cents. if i'm wrong, do help to correct me *
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Guys,
I am one eager beaver if this endeavour takes off.
Regards.
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Am not sure if this is CuSN8 broze but the design looks stunning (my view). Wish we could have something like that one-day
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/Marine-Chronometer-Bronze-Edition,542.html
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Count me in...if it happens!
Thanks!
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Am not sure if this is CuSN8 broze but the design looks stunning (my view). Wish we could have something like that one-day
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/Marine-Chronometer-Bronze-Edition,542.html
Count me in if the Price is right...Steinhart Watches is a good choice.... :Dancing_banana: :Jumping: