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Title: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: hanz079 on March 07, 2012, 05:35:41 PM
Tudor website have been updated with the latest offering...
Introducing the Tudor Pelagos.

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/tudor_pelagos_wp_1024x768_1.jpg)
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/hanz079/tudor_pelagos_wp_1024x768_3.jpg)

Pics taken from Tudor Website.

42mm Titanium case satin finished.
Matt Ceramic Bezel.
ETA2824.
I like it....

At 1st I thought the Tudor Heritage Black Bay is the only new watch playing with the Snowflake Heritage... looks like this is the Snowflake Generation 2....  ;D
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 07, 2012, 05:58:34 PM
This, me like. However the 7016 snowflake still calls.....
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: takashi78 on March 07, 2012, 05:59:33 PM
I quite like it...if the price is reasonable enough then i think it should be a big seller.
Good choice going with Ti for material.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 07, 2012, 06:22:24 PM
The lume shot has me sold.... yes I am cheap.....

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/TudorPelagosb.jpg)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: takashi78 on March 07, 2012, 06:44:01 PM
LOL....
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: watchmanu on March 07, 2012, 06:45:11 PM
Wow! This is nice! Hmmm.....how would the price will be?  ???
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: G.MAC on March 07, 2012, 06:58:01 PM
Uh-oh...new target coming up..but an ETA??? Is it even going to be modified?
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: hanz079 on March 07, 2012, 07:01:12 PM
Uh-oh...new target coming up..but an ETA??? Is it even going to be modified?
Doesn't bother me on the ETA movement.
Those old snowflakes run on ETA as well...
Most important now is the price... if priced right, I am definitely in the market for one... hohohoho
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: hanz079 on March 07, 2012, 07:04:16 PM
The lume shot has me sold.... yes I am cheap.....

I am practically sold even "before" the lume shot!!!  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: pexus on March 07, 2012, 07:27:10 PM
me likey...
me likey very much...
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 07, 2012, 07:42:29 PM
Uh-oh...new target coming up..but an ETA??? Is it even going to be modified?
Doesn't bother me on the ETA movement.
Those old snowflakes run on ETA as well...
Most important now is the price... if priced right, I am definitely in the market for one... hohohoho

Should be around the price of the Heritage Chrono... RM13k+? Don't think this one will come with discount... Hope it will not fall flat after the initial burst like the Heritage Chrono. It would really make my day if it had the double dome crystal of the Black Bay.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: bwee on March 07, 2012, 07:43:44 PM
Nice....... :thumbsup: worth considering.. If the pricing is right.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 07, 2012, 07:45:16 PM
The lume shot has me sold.... yes I am cheap.....

I am practically sold even "before" the lume shot!!!  :Laughing_on_floor:

I thought I had you at Hello?  ::) ;D ;) :)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ck77 on March 07, 2012, 07:46:56 PM
Sui :thumbsup:
Hope Tudor price it right.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: sshark on March 07, 2012, 10:09:02 PM
I dun find it appealing. Probably, I have a couple of similar looking watches.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: rusminag on March 07, 2012, 10:14:06 PM
When will it hits our shore?? Any idea?
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ck77 on March 08, 2012, 09:07:40 AM
I love everyting of it but wonder why Tudor still using ETA 2824 rather than higher quality ETA2892?
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: shamtv2555 on March 08, 2012, 10:19:12 AM
cool......will on my target
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: chrisyen on March 08, 2012, 11:55:33 AM
I love everyting of it but wonder why Tudor still using ETA 2824 rather than higher quality ETA2892?

shd use valgrance
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 08, 2012, 12:53:45 PM
Just my humble view... Dont like the line : self winding rotor.
Seem too long winded!
Would buy if without that line but thats just me

Hahah what about "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified"
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 08, 2012, 04:53:17 PM
I love everyting of it but wonder why Tudor still using ETA 2824 rather than higher quality ETA2892?

ETA 2824, proven movement, just like the ETA2892. Higher margins?
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 08, 2012, 04:54:31 PM
The original snowflake, the reference 7016/0. Now if only the owner wants to sell the watch......

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/IMG_1236.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/IMG_1237.jpg)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: GlySinn on March 08, 2012, 07:56:28 PM
Niceee Pelagos.... A must molest watch
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: genec on March 08, 2012, 08:01:05 PM
Just my humble view... Dont like the line : self winding rotor.
Seem too long winded!
Would buy if without that line but thats just me

Hahah what about "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified"

Hahaha yup thats a tad too long too
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: bwee on March 08, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
I used to think Tudor watches are un-attractive... The pelagic is making me look twice  :)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: bwee on March 08, 2012, 08:20:06 PM
Sorry.. Typo.. I meant pelago.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: terrenceterrence on March 08, 2012, 08:32:05 PM
Should it be priced to the north of the Heritage Chrono, then it would be mighty close to the 42mm Omega PO which I think is far better watch and calibre.

On the hindsight, love the layered dial, liked lumed bezel and pointed crown guard. Innovative clasp too. This is one area that Omega could not compete against Rolex IMHO
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: sshark on March 08, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
Should it be priced to the north of the Heritage Chrono, then it would be mighty close to the 42mm Omega PO which I think is far better watch and calibre.

On the hindsight, love the layered dial, liked bezel and pointed crown guard. Innovative clasp too. This is one area that Omega could not compete against Rolex IMHO

Look what they did with seamaster bracelet. :)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: hanz079 on March 09, 2012, 07:42:36 AM
Prices are out. 3950chf which comes to a little over rm13k... Vat included.
Damn... I was hoping a little lower....
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ck77 on March 09, 2012, 07:49:40 AM
Prices are out. 3950chf which comes to a little over rm13k... Vat included.
Damn... I was hoping a little lower....
That price .. with a 2824 ... haiz  :Mad:
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: rusminag on March 09, 2012, 07:50:48 AM
I like the bezel and the clasp.. And also the snowflake hands
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: G.MAC on March 09, 2012, 08:25:11 AM
Prices are out. 3950chf which comes to a little over rm13k... Vat included.
Damn... I was hoping a little lower....
with a price like that, I am a little taken aback..Will keep the watch in mind but surely not a 'must-buy' anymore. Wait for the pre-owned ones to come.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: bwee on March 09, 2012, 08:33:21 AM
disappointed  :(
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 09, 2012, 08:58:02 AM
It will be a tad below RM13k I think, after VAT. But somehow I suspect there will not be any discount at the early stages. I believe this watch will be hot, regardless. The interesting thing I want to see is if there is an impact on the pricing and demand for the older 14060/14060M and what it dos to the pricing.

As for me, will I get the watch? If I get the 7016, no, if not, maybe. If it came with drilled lugs and high dome crystal like the Black Bay, yes.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 09, 2012, 09:00:24 AM
Prices are out. 3950chf which comes to a little over rm13k... Vat included.
Damn... I was hoping a little lower....
That price .. with a 2824 ... haiz  :Mad:

Oklah, that other brand using ETA/ Unitas also charging that much, if not more......  ::) ;D :D :o ;)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: hanz079 on March 09, 2012, 10:47:07 AM
Prices are out. 3950chf which comes to a little over rm13k... Vat included.
Damn... I was hoping a little lower....
That price .. with a 2824 ... haiz  :Mad:

Oklah, that other brand using ETA/ Unitas also charging that much, if not more......  ::) ;D :D :o ;)

 ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ck77 on March 09, 2012, 11:22:18 AM
Oklah, that other brand using ETA/ Unitas also charging that much, if not more......  ::) ;D :D :o ;)
That's why I still find it hard to justify myself for spending the penny on 'that' brand lor  :-\

Why not using 2892 like in mark and po? :HammerHead:
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 09, 2012, 01:01:36 PM

That's why I still find it hard to justify myself for spending the penny on 'that' brand lor  :-\

Why not using 2892 like in mark and po? :HammerHead:

That is why most of the pieces (in my collection) from that brand are all the cheap ones. I also cannot justify the prices for the brand.  ;D

As for the ETA 2824/ 2892, if Tudor is using the best grade movement, there is actually no difference between the two movements. I have attached the chart below for reference. Save for the height difference, unless Tudor uses the lowest grade, the ETA 2892 wins by the fact that there is no standard grade 2892.

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/eta_chart_sm.jpg)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: rusminag on March 09, 2012, 01:54:40 PM
Tudor 2892 over-engineered to 55 jewels
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: hanz079 on March 09, 2012, 02:31:06 PM
Tudor 2892 over-engineered to 55 jewels
That was the one with the alarm and power reserve complication?
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: rusminag on March 09, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
Tudor 2892 over-engineered to 55 jewels
That was the one with the alarm and power reserve complication?
Nope.. For chrono and fly-back functions..
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ck77 on March 09, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Tudor 2892 over-engineered to 55 jewels
Tudor which model?
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: rusminag on March 09, 2012, 03:01:24 PM
Tudor 2892 over-engineered to 55 jewels
Tudor which model?
Off topic.. E.g. Ref. 70330
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ck77 on March 09, 2012, 03:06:47 PM
Tudor 2892 over-engineered to 55 jewels
Tudor which model?
Off topic.. E.g. Ref. 70330
Got it.
That's 2892 with DD chrono module.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: G.MAC on March 09, 2012, 03:11:30 PM
I guess, it would justify the price if it were a heavily modified 2824. If stock 2824 with no mods at all, i think a bit too much.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 09, 2012, 05:31:45 PM
Who knows, maybe next year they will reissue this one....

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/1765.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/90910.jpg)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ck77 on March 09, 2012, 08:49:05 PM
I guess, it would justify the price if it were a heavily modified 2824. If stock 2824 with no mods at all, i think a bit too much.
Anyone can confirm which movement grade by this picture?
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/pelagos2824.jpg)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 09, 2012, 09:31:35 PM
I guess, it would justify the price if it were a heavily modified 2824. If stock 2824 with no mods at all, i think a bit too much.
Anyone can confirm which movement grade by this picture?
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s246/ongck77/pelagos2824.jpg)

Tudor normally uses the ETA 2824-2T movement from ETA, which indicate that it is a 'Top' grade movement. The photograph confirms that the movement is either 'Top' or 'Chronometer' movement.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ck77 on March 09, 2012, 09:44:32 PM
Tudor normally uses the ETA 2824-2T movement from ETA, which indicate that it is a 'Top' grade movement. The photograph confirms that the movement is either 'Top' or 'Chronometer' movement.
Great  :thumbsup:
And thank god that's no superlative chronometer officially certified on the dial  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: TheHobbit on March 09, 2012, 10:05:58 PM
Tudor normally uses the ETA 2824-2T movement from ETA, which indicate that it is a 'Top' grade movement. The photograph confirms that the movement is either 'Top' or 'Chronometer' movement.
Great  :thumbsup:
And thank god that's no superlative chronometer officially certified on the dial  :Laughing_on_floor:

Have not seen a Tudor with COSC before. Don't think there will be any soon.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: hanz079 on March 10, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
Tudor normally uses the ETA 2824-2T movement from ETA, which indicate that it is a 'Top' grade movement. The photograph confirms that the movement is either 'Top' or 'Chronometer' movement.
Great  :thumbsup:
And thank god that's no superlative chronometer officially certified on the dial  :Laughing_on_floor:

Have not seen a Tudor with COSC before. Don't think there will be any soon.

Although no cosc, but my experience with the 33 year old 94110 is that it runs within chronometer specs... actually, it's around the same as my 14060.

I dunno how reliable is the news but some blogs and sites have listed the Pelagos at usd4400 retail and the Black Bay at usd3200... for the leather strap combo.
Quite a difference for 300m extra water resistance and titanium case and bracelet.

I visited my local Rolex uncle and he told me even if Tudor uses ETA movements, they are of the highest grade, decorated and some minor mods... mostly on high wear parts.
According to him, Tudor does not use the standard parts (high wear ones), they make their own.
Reliable info? Take it with a pinch of salt I guess.

Locally, no word on prices and availability date yet though.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: ivanswk on March 11, 2012, 08:44:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3sG7yTApQ ;D
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: JOS2012 on May 30, 2013, 03:07:06 PM
The Pelagos was on my 2013 wishlist created end-2012, though at the very bottom.
I had forgotten all abt it as my targets had changed over the last few months given the new release of SIHH 2013.

As fate would have it, I had lunch with a friend today and was offered a brand new Pelagos at a price which I found hard to resist.

So here is my 5th acquisition for 2013, the earlier 4 not on my original list either......

Although there are a lot of articles on the Pelagos, these are not bad..

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/tudor-pelagos-review
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/tudor-pelagos-watch-review/
http://www.monochrome.nl/tudor-pelagos-ref-25500tn-tudors-answer-on-the-rolex-sea-dweller/
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php/topic,5893.0.html
(mods can remove if its not allowed)
 
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/null-14.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/null-14.jpg.html)


One of the things that attracted me to the Pelagos is the injected ceramic bezel with Chromabrite lume in blue. This pic was taken last night and the lume is very lasting.
Pic is grainy as its taken with iphone in total darkness.
Its a back to basics affordable tool watch with all the technically sound credentials and no fluff to dazzle, something like a Swiss version of the Seiko Marinemaster MM300

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/null-18.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/null-18.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: G.MAC on May 30, 2013, 07:00:18 PM
Still tempted by the Pelagos. Still waiting for a pre-owned one.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: CKL1213 on May 30, 2013, 10:43:52 PM
a price which you hard to resist, should be below or around 10K
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: Alvin-8880 on May 30, 2013, 11:02:47 PM
Congrats Jos, ur dream came thru. Looks good on u :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: JOS2012 on May 30, 2013, 11:22:05 PM
Thanks Alvin.
If I'm not wrong quite a few mwf members were keen on the Pelagos, just waiting for a good discount instead of the ridiculous full RRP price quoted by the Rolex Centres.
I'm just lucky that a friend that I got a watch from recently, brought a piece back from his Europe trip
See u soon.
Congrats Jos, ur dream came thru. Looks good on u :thumbsup:

Its definitely not below 10K but its the cheapest so far.
a price which you hard to resist, should be below or around 10K

I've been looking for a pre-owned too but being still a hot piece, even used ones go for almost 85-90% of new nett price so I may as well buy new.
Still tempted by the Pelagos. Still waiting for a pre-owned one.
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: G.MAC on May 31, 2013, 06:35:17 AM
Beautiful :thumbsup: :thumbsup:. Now seeing it again, I regretted not getting one earlier. Mind to pm me the exact amount for the watch? Thanks a million
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: rusminag on May 31, 2013, 07:38:37 AM
Bro JOS, I you are thinking of letting it go, let me know first....(next year maybe... he...he..)
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: danny on May 31, 2013, 07:59:56 AM
Congrats Joe.
The Tudor looks fantastic on your wrist.
One timepiece per month so far this year. You're definitely on a roll.  :thumbsup:
Keep it up.

 :Cheers:
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: CKL1213 on May 31, 2013, 10:10:06 AM
Killer lume shot
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: davidtth on May 31, 2013, 12:19:20 PM
this or new chrono in blue, cant decide...   :Blue:
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: JOS2012 on June 02, 2013, 05:24:41 PM
david,
you can afford to buy both..
this or new chrono in blue, cant decide...   :Blue:

thanks danny..
the brushed titanium is well executed with a very comfortable variable folding clasp... a handsome daily tool watch to be used without worry or too much care unlike my other prima donna complications.
running out of steam and cash....
Congrats Joe.
The Tudor looks fantastic on your wrist.
One timepiece per month so far this year. You're definitely on a roll.  :thumbsup:
Keep it up.
 :Cheers:

thanks but its too grainy and not sharply defined enough as unfortunately hand held and using iphone.
will try another time on tripod and using a higher iso capable cam for a real proper shot
Killer lume shot

might be a long wait.
i'm sure u can afford a new one...
Bro JOS, I you are thinking of letting it go, let me know first....(next year maybe... he...he..)

pm sent.. surprise us with a new addition..
Beautiful :thumbsup: :thumbsup:. Now seeing it again, I regretted not getting one earlier. Mind to pm me the exact amount for the watch? Thanks a million
Title: Re: Tudor Pelagos (Next Generation Snowflake)
Post by: j0shua on June 03, 2013, 03:02:38 PM
Now that I've fondled G.MAC's former BB, I'm extremely convinced that there has to be a Tudor on my wrist. The Pelagos appears to be the one.